Week of Meetings 1970-02 Glory as Seen — Stan Ford

The Revelation of Jesus Christ in Revelation 1

I wonder if we could turn, please, to the first chapter of the last book of the Bible, Revelation chapter 1. I've nothing new, of course, to say about this chapter, but I always feel it's good to commence a series of gatherings like this by reminding our hearts of some of the wonders of the One that has drawn us together.

And as we think of the Lord Jesus Christ, I'm sure that the hearts of every one of us will be exercised, that when later we come to present the gospel to men and women, we'll be confident, made re-confident, of the wonders of the Savior.

So, Revelation chapter 1, if we may please. Now, most of us are aware that this book divides itself into those proverbial three parts. You know, I'm going to shift these, if I may, because I'll not come over, but most of us are aware that here's a book that does divide itself into those proverbial three parts.

Now, the Lord himself, as you know, gave us the division of the book of the Revelation. I didn't give it, no preacher ever gave it, the Lord gave it. The Lord said, John, I want you to write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.

Most of us are aware that in the first chapter, John dares to tell us the things that he saw. We will read in a moment or two, he turned to see the voice that spake with him, and he turned, he saw. We have the things that he saw, and it's well been said that over the first chapter, one can write the tremendous expression, the glory of the Lord, for he saw the Lord as his glory.

Come to chapter 2 and chapter 3, it's not the things that he saw, but it's the things that are, for these are the chapters that build the seven letters to the churches, and we behold God's message to a people that are made into his church.

The things that are, and of course it's not the time of his glory, although his glory is seen in every chapter, but it's the time of his grace, this scene of grace. And as you know, from chapter 4, the first verse, way to the end of the book, it's not the things that he's seen, or the things that are, it's the things which shall be hereafter.

These are chapters that deal not just with his glory, although we'll see it, not just with his grace, although it's these chapters that deal with his power. When Jesus shall reign where his journey's from, the chapter that we're going to look at this morning, we're going to consider again, and I trust our hearts will be warmed, we're going to consider again the things that are pertaining to his glory.

The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass. And he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John, who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Blessed is he that readeth, and would you notice, please, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein, for the time that it has. You know, I often say this, and I think all of us would be in agreement with it, that isn't it wonderful that the first blessing, there are seven blessings in the book of the Revelation.

There are two for the commencement of the journey. There are two for the course of the journey. But God always had something better on before. There are three for the confirmation of the journey. And here's the first blessing for the commencement of the journey, and isn't it wonderful that God doesn't say, blessed is he that reads and understands it, but blessed is he that reads, that hears, and that obeys it for the time as it has.

John, for the seven churches which are in Asia, grace be unto you, and peace from him which is, and which was, and which is to come, and from the seven spirits which are before the throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth, unto him that loved us, and washed us from our own sins in his own blood, and hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.

Amen. Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierce him, and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him, even so. Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

I, John, who also am your brother and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle which is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, and what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia, unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

John’s Vision of the Glorified Son of Man

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me, and being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks, and in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the pats with a golden garment.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire, and his feet like unto pine grass, as if they burned in a furnace, and his voice was the sound of many waters.

And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell of his feet as dead, and he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not, I am the first and the last, I am he that liveth and was dead, and behold, I am alive again forevermore, amen, and have the keys of hell and of death.

Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter. The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks, the seven stars, are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Now the Lord will add his blessing, I'm sure, to the reading of his own precious work. It is a remarkable fact that while the Bible itself is a very wonderful portrait of Jesus Christ, and while in every book of the Bible we find something of the wonders of our Saviour, there is that one book that bears its title, The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Of course, not of how otherwise Gershon has said it, it's hot, but we claim no inspiration for that. It is not the revelation of Saint John the Divine. The book opens with the expression, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, and as we think a little more of him this morning, oh sisters, brethren, I do pray that the Lord, by his Spirit, will recapture us as we're asked, and send us on this way saying, he's a wonderful Saviour, I want to share him with others.

John on Patmos: Where, When, and Why He Was Found

I wonder if I may ask three very simple questions, before we even look at something of the glories of the Lord. Concerning this book, I wonder if I may ask the question, first of all, where was the man who wrote this book?

Where was he found? And then may I ask the second question, not only where was he found, but when was he found? And not only when was he found, oh let's ask the question and find the answer, why was he found?

First of all, where was he found? Now we read together that John was on the Isle of Patmos, for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I think that's a very wonderful thing, don't you?

We won't forget that at this juncture in his life, the Apostle John was well over 70 years of age. He was no more. There seems little doubt that we can have no right to question tradition when it's suggested that he was working there in attendance, working in the storefront.

He was not on the Isle of Patmos for a holiday, I do assure you he was not there for a Labor Day conference, but he was on the Isle of Patmos for the testimony of Jesus Christ, and he was there working in a salt mine in a prison.

He was a man who, because of his position, could not say that I believe that I have a Lord's Day on any day of the week. He had to labor, and I believe it, over 70 years of age. The thing to me is this, that the man who found himself for six days of the week on the Isle of Patmos for the words of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ, was the man who, despite the fact he still had to work on the Lord's Day, the man who six days a week spent his days for the words of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ, was the man who on the seventh day was in the Spirit.

So, it's essential for us to remember this, that you and I, as we're going to consider something of the wonders of the Savior, we need to grasp that Jesus Christ is ours, not for one day a week, but for seven days a week, and for every day of the month, and every month of the year.

One of the tragedies that I'm beginning to find, and I suppose there are texts in which I've even found it in my own book, but one of the tragedies I'm beginning to find, if I can, about the world, is that there are so many Christians who love to be at meetings, they love to gather in conference, they love to spend time with those of like mind gathered in a gospel chapel, but they have some idea that we'll go there to meet the Lord.

And growing up amongst those of us that are in the Lord, that we miss meeting, that, well, you know, we miss the Lord a lot, and we forget that we don't know what it means to meet Jesus. So, do we take it with us?

I guess the definition of eternal life that's ever been given, was given in that epistle to the Ephesians, when the apostle dared to say that we may be filled with all the fullness of God. How eternal life?

You tell me what eternal life is. To be filled with all the fullness of God, and I repeat, the man that was on the isle came forth for the word of God, for the testimony of Jesus Christ, and to visit the Spirit of the Lord there.

All that you and I might, in the coming day, as we seek to gather in those that know not Christ as Savior, oh that we might show to them that Jesus Christ is real, not just in a service, but every moment.

So, we see that, first of all, he was found on the isle of Patmos, and then, when he was found, he was found on the Lord's day. I think that's one. No, no, no, please, not as some have suggested, in the day of the Lord, but on the Lord's day.

This blessed day, heaven's milestones, it seems to me, heaven's milestones on the journey of life. This glorious day, this day which is, as it were, the very day of rising hopes for its resurrection day, and hallelujah, buried fears, this Lord's day, this day which is the day that's the golden clasp of a week's volume, that we, day by day, anticipate the moment when we shall gather in remembrance of him on this glorious day.

Is it not wonderful that we can anticipate the fact that we can be found, as we have been found during the week before Christ, we can be found with Christ of the Lord's day. And why was he there? Well, you will notice we're told he was there that he might be given this glorious revelation of Jesus Christ.

Right, the thing, this revelation of the Savior. Oh, but in these coming days, you and I may find such a revelation as we together open the word of God. Now, most of us are aware that in this first chapter, and I do repeat, I've nothing new to say, what I'm saying all of you have heard, and all of you have pondered, and all of you have appreciated over the course of years.

I do trust, indeed, that as we remind ourselves of these things, I trust that our hearts may be made glad. But you will remember that in the first chapter, we find the revelation first of his person. May I repeat that?

The Person, Power, and Purpose of Christ

We have first the revelation of his person, then we have secondly the revelation of his power, and then the revelation of his purpose. Now, God never gives us the revelation of his power, or the revelation of his purpose, until we get to know him.

It's when we get the revelation of his person that then we can enter into his power, and then, bless God, we can see his purpose. Here is the revelation of his person. Now, we're going, if you would permit me, we're going to take it along step by step.

When we come, indeed, to verse 13, we find that he turned to see the voice that spake with him. Here, in turn, he saw. Now, what's interesting? Now, you will notice that the first thing that's recorded that he saw, he saw seven golden candlesticks, or seven lads' fans, if you will.

Now, I want just to pass this comment. I don't want to spend any time on it. I would be most happy to expand it more, if anyone would care to ask about it later. But I'm feeling that here is one of the most important verses, and the verse, you will pardon me as an Englishman, but a verse that I'm beginning to feel that here in America you're forgetting in the Bible.

One golden candlestick of the tabernacle. There was no unity between one candle. The only unity was that in the center of the individual candlestick, there stood a cross. The candlesticks were that they might shine their light upon him, that men and women might not be occupied with the candlestick of youth, but with the one on whom the light of that landscape, that candlestick shone, that he might choose the whip, that he might provide the oil, that they can reverence the truth.

I am, with all my heart, I believe that the Bible teaches the independence of the whole church, that each assembly, because we're living with Christ, that each assembly standing on its own, and we're living in a day where they're always talking not only about the unity and the great unity of different denominational bodies, unity amongst God's people, a unity that Christ has already made.

Never let us forget that the elders of this fellowship are responsible for what happens here. Not the elders of... We are living in a day when much love, the much longed-for brethren have been divided that split, and the testimony of God has been made to last, because they have dared to press the authority of a particular company over all of the seven individual camps.

Now, I was last I was going to comment about that after I'd spent the whole morning discussing the great principles of local church government. Jesus told him, I didn't say it. Don't come to me afterwards and say, Mr. Preacher, I'm not sure about your interpretation.

I didn't give the interpretation. And the seven candlesticks are the seven churches. So, just have a little word with him if you disagree with me. Not with me. But there it is, seven golden candlesticks, and Christ in the flesh.

Christ the Anointed Prophet, Priest, and King

Now, as he turned, he saw these seven golden candlesticks, and he saw, first of all, one like unto the Son of Man. Now, we are aware that the character that's being brought before us here is Christ, not Jesus.

Well, let me get to the bottom of it, shall I? The things you know, the things you know. Christ is not his name, is it? We speak of Peter the fisherman. We speak of John the Baptist. Peter's his name.

The fisherman's his title. John's his name. The Baptist's his title. We speak of Jesus. Jesus is his name. How have you taught your Sunday school classes over the years? And the meaning of the name or the title of Christ?

You have reminded your boys and girls, have you not? You've reminded them that Christ, of course, is not an English word. They have not given us a translation, have they? They've given us a transliteration.

They have taken a Greek word, and they have given us a transliteration of it. Christ wrote Christ. If I were just a Jew, I would flame a fire. That's exactly the same. No difference there, that is at all the same word.

But one is Greek, and one is Hebrew. One is Greek, one is English. The anointed. He's the one who is the Christ, the anointed. Oh, what wonder of this. You remember God said there were three people that had to be anointed.

Three people had to be anointed. We say Jesus is the... You've reminded your Sunday school classes, haven't you? That the work of the prophet was to reveal. The work of the priest, you've reminded your Sunday school class, was to reconcile.

To reveal, not to reconcile, but the work that he was to raise. Jesus is the revealed. Look at it again. I was the son of man. The prophet. Jesus revealed God. And you and I would never have known God unless Jesus was the country of a man.

We would have known about him. For Jesus is the one that came to reveal God, and he revealed God of a man. And when John turned to say, isn't it wonderful? Oh, come on, brother. Wasn't it just what he needed?

There are no doubts in the chamber. It was just the one he needed to say. He saw a man that had borne his grief. A hundred years before I came, the prophet that I admire said, he's borne our grief and he's carried our sorrows.

He saw one of the prophets standing there, and he said, yes, where men have laboured. I laboured. Rejected, I think that's nice and just. Rejected. Where men died, for his there is the marks of Calvary.

Where men died, I died. And I'm glad. Oh, listen, I'm glad when the trials and temptations of life come, I don't turn when I came to heaven, to look in, if I say it reverently, to look someone who's been here, someone who's borne our grief, and what if not, even when he comes before the Sanhedrin Council and dares to say, we're not persecuted.

John, you're passing through trial, I've something to tell you. There's a man, and he knows. And he's the Christ. And he saw him not only as the prophet, but he was clothed with a garment down to the foot.

Godly garment, next thing you see. But the foot here is of a highly preached garment. But this was a garment down to the foot. And he turned and he saw someone who was not only a man, but he had on him a garment down to the foot, a priestly garment.

And he said, he's here not only, not only to reveal God, but he's here to remind me that it's love. And he can loosen me from my state of his own lusts. Oh, bless God for such a saviour as this. Thank God that John could turn, and as he looked at him, he could dare say, here he is, the first begotten from the lust of the dead.

Again, not necessary for me to remind you, but it's always good to be reminded of these things. The Jesus Christ was not a priest until he got home to glory. Blessed be his name, he looked at him, and he saw him as the first begotten from the lust of the dead.

He saw him there as the great priest with his garment down to the foot. He dared to say, here is one who, having nullified, will eventually destroy death and all its power. He saw him as a priest, the one who knew the pangs and pains and power of sin itself, for he'd taken our sin in his own body.

But then, and he sees not only him as the Christ, for he sees him as the man. And he sees him as one with a garment down to the foot. But he sees him as the king, crucified in the past with a golden girdle.

Oh, blessed be every man then will, from the newspaper, who will notice that Her Majesty the Queen has had one of these, um, garden parties, or a funeral function. Not that I've ever been invited to one party, but nevertheless, that will be a picture.

All the folk will have gathered to this garden party, or to this official function. If you are up in this place, Dr. Lloyd, you will be able to point out the different people that are there, and you will point many of them out as they wear a cross.

You'll look at one and say, oh, look at that. There's a knight, he's got the order of the guard. Look, one already. There are the different statues, the tell of the different positions that they have been exalted to, the different standing they have in society.

I'm glad that I look at Christ with him. He's the king. You are the Lord of all. You are on the Isle of Patmos. The Lord of all. Separated from the church. You're separated from France. The God of the priests.

You're from God. I say, John, you're on the Isle of Patmos. All of wittiness and power and Rome and the besties. The power of Christ. With adornment. Oh, here's the Christ. Reverences. Not in the way that Jesus asked it.

Each one of us here who loves him. What? As he looks at him again, he goes further. And it seems to me that he goes into a more detailed description of the Lord. First of all, why his head and his hair are white, like wool.

As white as now. And then he goes on and he dares to say his eyes are as a flame of fire. He tells us his feet are like pine brass tried in the fire, like unto bronze. He tells us that his voice is like the sand of many waters.

He tells us indeed that in his hand a seven star, a two-edged sword. His countenance of the sun shineth in its strength. He goes into a detailed description of the Saviour. Now there are, as most of you are aware, but two full-length portraits of Christ in the Bible.

He doesn't let anyone try to tell us what they saw when they looked at Christ. In the fifth chapter of the psalm, the humanized woman tells us what she saw. Question, what is thy beloved more than another beloved?

She goes into the white room and says to him. She said, my beloved is white and rugged, the standard bearer amongst us. His head is as though fine gold. He's not. A bushy, his hair like wool, white as now.

It's well been said, but it seems almost in the looking of these verses that there's a contradiction. One might hope that in the first revelation of Christ, John is taking up the description of Daniel gave of Christ in the twelfth chapter of his book.

When he brings it before us as the one who is the creation of days, here it is the one of actions of days. I know that the whole thought indeed is a thing. But, you know, I think we need more than that to explain it.

But, you know, I can't, I know many, many times, but I think it was Campbell Morgan who was saying, it was not Campbell Morgan. Irony is, there's not a written name for me, but I read it somewhere, but I think it was Campbell Morgan who was saying, we see Christ with hair that's black.

In the first revelation, we see Christ with hair that's white. And between the psalm and the revelation, period of war, for some time I was attached to number four company of the command. They went over to see us, and every one of them was killed or captured.

Went into that little hostel. Steve Seddon came back. We had the environment there. His hair was blacker than anyone might see. He was absolutely jet black. I walked into the hospital, and the nurse said, you'll see them along on the side of the ward, Mr. Ford.

And I walked in, and I looked and was just going to pass on, because I saw a lad whose hair was whiter than any hair almost, I think. Twenty-three years of age. And in the snap of the fingers of a man's hand, his hair had turned from jet black to white.

There is the act that he manned his wireless. He'd seen his mates blow the trigger and not give back the answer, whether or not I ever knowed it. The tweeting of the time when his hair is black and his hair is white.

And if that's not the answer, the very fact that the word God foretold him with hair turned to his colour is a proof of the reality. But I must say this to you. That when I think of white hair, and I can only tell you what my heart thinks, when I think of white hair, of course, I think of maturity.

Don't you? Maturity. Is it not true? No, I know I'm speaking, you will pardon me, I'm speaking to a number of brethren and sisters that have reached that age. It is a fact that there are some things that are only learned with years.

You can go to all the Bible seminaries in the world and you don't learn them there. You can pass through and have degrees from any university you will and you don't learn them there. There are some things that are only learned in the experience of life.

And I thank God as I look at Christ, I see absolute maturity there. The maturity of suffering. Did anyone suffer like him? John, you're on the isle of Patmos, you're suffering, but John Lopez, someone who suffered more than you.

He understands. Maturity of wisdom. He was the very wisdom of God. John, you wonder why you don't understand? Maturity of suffering, maturity of wisdom, maturity of purity. I said this the other day, and I must repeat myself, you will forgive me, but when I was speaking at the conference along at Chattanooga, I reminded the saints there that Jesus Christ was the only one who finished where he began, and the only one that ever began where he finished.

Imagine, I hear the word of Holy Writ, that holy thing that shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. Easy to take a child in my hands that's just been born and say, that holy thing. Well, I know born in tears and shame and iniquity, but isn't it insane, that holy thing?

When my grandchildren, when my children were born, when my grandchildren were born, they were placed in my hands, how easy it would be to look at God's breath. He shall have a child in three and a half years.

He wants it in her lap. The world will know what I'm going to say then. His hair is white. Maturity of his suffering, maturity of his wisdom, maturity of his purity. Oh, I say, this is the one John needs.

Not only is the one you need, sisters, he's the one you need. He's the one I need. And he turned and he saw not only his hair and head, his maturity, but he looked and he saw his eyes. And we're told that his eyes, by, they were like a flame of fire.

And here is his purity. If I see his maturity in his hair, I see his purity in his eyes, like a flame of fire. There the scripture speaks of. When I think of this Christ, I remember that with his eyes he perceives, with his eyes he'll peer through any darkness.

I see his eyes there as they penetrate right to the knees of man. His eyes is a flame of fire. All the purity of this Christ. And yet, you know, there's something else that always thrills me about it.

Some years ago now, and it was years ago, I found myself wondering that it was during the time, you know, when it was very difficult to get packages and I had to sit and wait and wait. I never intended to be a driver of Christmas.

I'm going to pick up a better place to see that happen. Nevertheless, I found myself waiting to see if I could bring a treat in the evening, one that would buy a few presents for the children. That was Christmas, and it's cheaper than any other Christmas I've had in a decade in a dollar.

It was a tall candle, and I saw something that I thought was really not what I thought it was. All I'd seen for many a time since, was the first one I ever saw. The boy then, who was next to him, must be 20 years ago, so I thought, why would he have been that tiny little baby?

So I brought a boy, one 20 years, and he said, uh, it was a screwdriver. I put a screwdriver into the screw, a light shot. I don't know how many times that I've taken a screwdriver and tried to find the screw.

You couldn't even see. And then suddenly, I found a screwdriver. I just pricked it, and the light would shine just where I needed it. All of his arms. And like, during it gets a bit dark here, doesn't it?

We're not quite sure where the road takes us. It's wonderful that Christ is with us. It's all the end of the flame of fire. He looks into the darkness, and he can see. And he ain't the way he's letting me.

I'm glad that John needed someone like that, and Christ was right there with him. And I'm glad that though I need someone like that, Christ is right here with me. His arms are the fire. But in his hair, I see his maturity.

And in his eyes, I see his purity. Why, in his feet, I see his stability. Is that why, how many times have you met? Maybe, I don't know. You've got a little boat down here at the pond here. The lake or whatever.

And, you know, there's a plank that goes away on the boat. And if you're on my boat, before you walk the plank, you put your foot on it and try it. In his very feet, I see the stability that's his. And all the winds and waves will never, never, never knock him over.

He is a rock. The church is built. The gates of hell will not prevail against him. All the stability. And will you notice his feet? We are told that they are like fine brass tried in the fire. They're bronze.

Brass that's been burned in the fire. That which is used for warfare. That which is burned with heart. I'm glad to hear his feet testing everything. And brethren, in our own assembly, isn't it essential that we allow that Christ shall.

Sometimes, you will not misunderstand this. I sometimes get a little tired. Of folk coming to me and saying something like this. Mr. Forbes, what would you do in England about this? Whatever does it matter?

What we'll do in England. Ask me a thing like that, because if you do, I'll tell you off bigger than anyone. Really, my friend. The thing that matters is what is the word of God. What a Christ is that piece of kept things.

Oh, let's bring our problems to Christ. And if he's the head of the church, do you believe he's the head of the church? If he's the head of the church, isn't that what he works for? Isn't that what he works for?

His head, I see his maturity. Eyes, I see his purity. Feet, I see his stability. So, praise God, he goes further, and I see it. I see it, or hear his voice, and I hear his authority. His voice is the sound of many waters.

Christ’s Voice, Sovereignty, and the Sword of the Word

Isn't that good? I like that. The sound of many waters. Years ago, I came back the same time, actually, as when I was in... No, it wasn't that time. It was a previous time, when I was away in Toronto.

But I came back and I went to see Catherine. And the good brother said to me, Catherine, have you ever seen Niagara Falls? Well, he told me he'd seen Niagara Falls. Now, you don't have a job to believe this, but this is true.

I've always eaten there. It was a fairly good pair of lunch. My lunch would make people here. Well, see, I didn't make them here. But I went along and stood by the side of the Niagara Falls, and I turned to my good friend.

I shouted at the top of my voice. I could see him, not hear him. All I could see him say was, oh, dear. No, I was shouting at the top of my voice. He couldn't hear a word. There was the sound of many waters.

I'm saying here, did he have friends at all? Yes, sir. I'm glad. His voice is stronger than the sound of many waters. Oh, let's listen to what Christ had to say. There's authority in his voice. Why? And then I see, indeed, his hands.

And it says, in his hands, in his hands. It's very true. And if I see or hear authority in his voice, I see sovereignty in his hands. He holds the church in his hands. You know, we often hear of that little thing's son.

He holds the whole world in his hands. Well, I suppose there's a sense in which that is true. But there's a greater sense in which he holds the church in his hands. That is, none shall flock without his hand.

Oh, I'm glad. Bless God for his sovereignty, the herefore Lord of the church. And we'll praise his name. And then he goes farther, and he speaks not only of his right hand, the seven stars, but out of his mouth, the two-edged sword.

You remember the fourth chapter of Hebrews, where it speaks, indeed, of the word of the Lord. Of that which is a sharp, two-edged sword, dividing even to the piercing of thunder, of spirit and soul, and good and bad.

And here we see, surely, not just his sovereignty, but his accuracy. Now, I'm going to say something here. He has a brother or sister, where the soul starts. Give the difference between the soul and the spirit, or you would give me that which is normally said.

You would say, oh yes, the body makes us world-conscious, the spirit makes us God-conscious, the soul makes us self-conscious. And that's true! That's absolutely true. You tell me where the spirit starts and the soul starts.

And because we find that there are these Jehovah's Witnesses, these Christian deities, these people who come along and deny the trinity of God, and therefore would rather be a man, and they say, no! Trinity of spirit and soul!

For he who said that the Word of God is a sharp, two-edged sword, dividing the thunder, spirit, soul, and joyous and merry of the body. For the Word of God says there's a difference! There's accuracy with God, absolute accuracy!