Cse Seminar 7(2003) Questions and Answers — Kent Hovind

Well, thank you for joining us. My name is Kent Hovind. I taught high school science for 15 years, and this is going to be Seminar Part 7, Question-Answer Time. If you've gotten this far, hopefully you've seen the first six, because we'll be covering new information.

I taught science 15 years, and I cover information on the subject of creation, evolution, and dinosaurs. I take the position that the Bible is literally true, scientifically accurate in all details, and the evolution theory being taught in our schools is the dumbest and most dangerous religion in the history of planet Earth.

We're going to be covering a wide variety of questions that I get during my Q &A time. Everywhere I go, I try to ask, you know, teach for an hour or so, and then have question-answer time. And I've heard most of the questions that come up in the last 17 years that I've been doing this.

We'll be covering a wide range of things like how do we see stars billions of light years away? Have there any fresh dinosaur bones been found, not even fossilized yet? Why are there so few human bones found?

What about the Bible codes? Why do you use the King James Version? Are there contradictions in the Bible? What about other religions? Could they be right? What about global warming? Where do the races come from?

A whole bunch of stuff we're going to be covering as quickly as we can. There is much more information about all of these topics on our college class. We taught college classes, CSE 101, the 100 series.

101, 2, 3, and 4, you can take those and where we have time to go into a lot more detail. And then the 200 series is even more depth than that, okay? So you can catch, if you don't get enough information, or if I don't answer one of your questions, you can call into our daily radio program.

Every day 4 .30 to 6 .00, currently, we may change the time someday, but currently 4 .30 to 6 .00 central time, Monday through Friday when I'm not traveling. I'm live on the internet, drdino .com or truthradio .com and you can take our college classes and ask questions there.

We cover just a whole lot more material. All of the slides that I use in my seminar, and it's close to 7 ,000 now, are available to download off my website, drdino .com or you can just order the DVDs or CDs of all of the slides.

And a lot of slides, you'll see they've got a little asterisk near the end. That indicates there's something in the notes section of the slide. And there's a lot of things I have to skip just for sake of time, but hopefully we can answer some questions for you here.

The Bible says in Ecclesiastes, I applied mine heart to know and search and to seek out wisdom and the reason of things. I think it's wise for Christians especially to do that. Try to be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason.

And I think we can be more effective soul winners and more effective for God's kingdom if we knew more and could give an answer. That's the goal of all this of seminars that we produce is to equip people that can give an answer to know the truth.

First Peter chapter 3 says, sanctify the Lord God in your hearts and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you the reason of the hope that's in you. And we hope that this training you'll get here will give you the answers you need.

First Timothy 2 says, study to show yourself approved unto God. We should study and learn not just so we can give an answer to others, but so God is pleased with us. That's the goal of study. God are you happy?

One of the questions I often get as I speak at universities is, hey Hovind, are you the only one that believes in creation? Don't all scientists believe in evolution? Absolutely not. I don't know how that question even comes up.

Not all scientists do not believe in evolution, number one. Thousands and thousands and thousands of them are creation scientists. For instance, Dr. Russell Humphreys worked for years at the Sandia National Laboratories.

There's a good article about him on the Answers in Genesis website. They've got a whole list of 180 some or 200 scientists today who are young earth Bible believing six day creationists. Dr. Humphreys said, using a simple statistical approach I would conservatively estimate that in the United States alone there are around 10 ,000 practicing professional scientists who openly believe in six day recent creation.

So first it's not true that all scientists believe in evolution. Secondly, even if they did, that's not how you establish truth. It doesn't matter what the majority believe. The majority has a long history of being wrong.

They used to teach all the planets go around the earth. The majority was wrong. Though believe it or not there still are some scientists who are geocentrists who teach the earth is in the center and everything goes around the earth.

I've got the books in the library. You can read those if you want to take that. I've looked at the subject. I just can't buy it yet. I think they're wrong. I think the sun is in the center. There was a time when they used to teach that big rocks fall faster than little rocks.

That was taught for 2 ,000 years and it's wrong. So the majority can be wrong. They used to teach the doctrine of humors. You know if you're sick you have bad blood. Take out your blood and you get better.

That's how George Washington died. They were wrong. And in that case they were dead wrong. In John chapter 7, many of the people therefore when they heard this said, of a truth this is the prophet. Others said this is the Christ.

But some said shall Christ come out of Galilee? Hath not the scripture said that Christ cometh of the seed of David out of the house of Bethlehem? Notice what happened here in John chapter 7. The people were arguing about was Jesus really the Christ?

And some of them said wait, wait, wait. Christ doesn't come out of Galilee and Jesus came from Galilee. The problem is they had a misconception. They thought Jesus came from Galilee. Where was Jesus actually born?

Bethlehem. So they had the whole wrong problem. They're arguing about the wrong subject. So in John 3, verse 43 it says, so there was a division among the people because of him. And some of them would have taken him.

They would have tried to kill the messenger. Because they had a wrong impression, they're going after this. We got to shut this guy up. This Jesus is out there preaching. We got to shut him up. They got the wrong impression to start with.

And that's what happens. People get the wrong idea. They think creationists like me are doing damage to education system. No, we're the right people. We're trying to fix the problem. Okay. We're trying to resolve it.

Verse 45 says, then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees and they said unto him, why have ye not brought him? Now this is classic. Notice the chief priests sent their hoodlums to go get Jesus.

Jesus answered their questions. They came back and said, wow, never man spake like this man. And then the Pharisees said, well, you should have asked him this. I get this every time, including three days ago in Michigan at the university up there.

There's always some professor that says, you know, they advertised that Hovind's coming to the university to speak in Northern Michigan University. Or the week before I was in Wisconsin at Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

A hundred professors in Milwaukee refused to debate me. Eighty professors at Northern Michigan University refused to debate me. I've had close to 4 ,000 now professors that have refused to debate on the subject.

And they don't even come when I speak. They send their students and say, here, ask him this, ask him this, ask him this. The student comes back and says, teacher, he answered all my questions. And then the teacher says, you idiot.

You should have asked him this and this and this. Well, teacher, you coward. Why didn't you come? Okay. Why didn't you ask the question? And professors do the same thing, just like the Pharisees did. The professors send their students to try to trap the creation as they won't come themselves.

Okay. And then when they, that doesn't work, they try to use the law to silence them. Let's just pass a law that says you can't teach creation. Or if anybody does try to teach creation, we're going to get them fired.

Send them out of here. Then verse 47, then answered them the Pharisees. Are ye also deceived? Hovind translation. Are you stupid? Has this guy deceived you? Then they, this is the classic one they always use.

Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him? Translation. None of the other scientists believe this creation stuff. Therefore evolution must be true. Now think about that logic. The majority believes this, therefore it's true.

I mean, that's silly. First place, it's not true. The majority believe it. Secondly, that's not how you tell. And then they said, but this people who knoweth not the law are cursed. Hovind translation.

We have knowledge. You don't. We have a degree. You don't. We don't approve of your degree. It's from a non-accredited Christian school. Therefore we're smart. You're dumb. That's a common tactic used by the professors today.

And the 99 professors I've debated, it happens all the time. And in one of the guys, Nicodemus very wisely said, doth our law judge any man before it hear him? Nicodemus at least had the common sense to say, hey, before we judge this guy, Jesus, and say he's wrong, he's stupid, et cetera, let's listen to what he's saying.

And I would encourage college students and professors and anybody, listen to the creation side. Just listen. Really honestly listen and hear it. And then make your decision. When I spoke in Soviet Union a couple of years ago, I was at a university over there in, I don't know, Pavel, if you remember what city I was in.

It's in Ukraine, your home state. But one of the cities had a university. They shut down the university and sent 30 professors to have me speak for two hours on creation. I was a big celebrity, you know, Dr. Hovind all the way from Florida.

The further I travel, the more famous I am. When I'm right here in town, it's not famous at all. But they shut down the university and 30 professors came. After about an hour of speaking on creation, one of the professors was crying.

And I asked the translator, this girl named Olga, I said, what's he crying about? And she said, he's never heard the creation story. He didn't know there was one. And I think there's a lot of people in America, a lot of students that I see in America have never really honestly heard the creation story.

So, if somebody says, everybody else believes in evolution, therefore you should too. Number one, that's not a good argument. And it's not true, okay? And listen to the creation side. Understand it. Because when I get done talking, a lot of times, like in the airplane, I sat by somebody who believed in evolution just last week.

I said, well, let me just explain the creation side. It took three minutes. Explain the creation view very simply. And they said, wow, that makes a lot of sense. Well, yeah. Just listen, okay, to what they got to say.

They started with the false assumption that Jesus was from Galilee. He wasn't, okay? He was actually born in Bethlehem. Some of the Pharisees had not believed Him, so therefore that's proof that He's not right.

You get the same thing today. Some scientists don't believe in creation, therefore creation's not true. That is absolutely stupid logic, okay? And they'll say, has He published in science journals? As if, well, you don't see creation articles in National Geographic, therefore that proves it's not right.

Well, you didn't see many capitalist articles in communist journals 10 years ago either, by the way, you know. It doesn't prove anything's right or wrong. The majority can be wrong. The majority followed Aaron into rebellion.

The majority voted not to go into the promised land in Numbers chapter 32. The majority followed false gods many times in the Old Testament. The majority of the leaders hated Jesus. The majority of the world hates Christians.

The majority voted in Bill Clinton twice, for heaven's sake. I mean, the majority can be wrong, all right? Can be dead wrong. But it's not true that all scientists believe in creation. There's a book here by Robert Gentry.

Robert Gentry is a good friend of mine from Tennessee. He is a very famous scientist who did work on the disposal of radioactive waste, nuclear waste. What do you do with this waste product? He would do research on the granites around the world.

He discovered that as you look at granites under a microscope, you find they got little tiny halos in them, radio polonium halos. We'll get into more of that later. But as soon as they found out that his research was proving evolution is not true, because he really proves the earth was never a hot molten mass.

He never mentioned creation, never mentioned God, just purely scientific research. They published him in all the major journals until somebody said, wow, guys, Gentry's work is proving the Big Bang Theory wrong.

They took away his funding and shut him off like a spigot. They persecuted somebody just because his work was not supporting the sacred cow, i .e. evolution. Roger DeHart was a science teacher at Burlington Edson High School near Seattle.

He was told, they brought him into the office and said, you cannot tell your students about errors in the textbooks. All he was doing was bringing in current science journals. Here's a textbook that says the baby has gill slits, like we covered on video four.

DeHart would bring in a science journal and say, guys, I'm sorry, it says in the textbook on page 220 that the baby has gills. That's not true. Here's a current science journal. See, here's the evidence.

He never mentioned God, never mentioned the Bible, never mentioned creation. He just said this textbook's not accurate and they told him he couldn't do that. You can't inform your students that the book is out of date.

That's the kind of persecution Christians get or anybody gets when they try to go against this evolution theory. Evolution is a carefully protected state religion, just like communism was a carefully protected state religion when you grew up over there.

You don't dare question it. Kevin Haley was a biology teacher in Oregon. He lost his job simply because he exposed errors in the textbooks. He told them, hey, this book's not right, there's a mistake here.

They said, you're fired. Can't teach if you say there's errors in our books. Baylor University in Waco, Texas fired William Dembski in April 2000 simply because he told his students there might be an intelligent designer.

He said, oh, you're not allowed to say that, so they fired him. This is Baylor, what used to be a Christian college, okay? Forrest Mims was a science writer for years. He wrote for many major journals, National Geographic, Science Digest, American Journal of Physics.

He wrote for all kinds of articles for magazines. But then when he applied for a job at Scientific American, he was denied. They said, you can't work here because you are a creationist. Even though what he was writing on has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject of creation or evolution, they said, we don't want you on our staff because it would look bad if we hired a creationist.

That's the type of persecution you get. Rod LeVake was told, he told his students, I kind of doubt this Darwin theory is true. So they took him away from teaching biology and gave him another job. They said, we don't want you teaching biology because you might make our students doubt Darwin's theory.

That's how it's protected. It's a religion. There's a teacher in Indiana, Dan Clark, his principal called him in, Ed Eller, the superintendent, and said he could not introduce creation to his class. Now there's no law against teaching creation at all.

There are no court cases that says you can't teach creation. They just said you can't be mandatory. But teachers always have the right to teach creation. But here's the problem. The law says you can teach it.

The court says you can teach it. But your boss now says you can't. So he quit his job finally over that. He stood firm and said, look, I'm not going to bow to this one. He quit his job. Dean Kenyon wrote the book Pandas and People.

He was a science teacher at San Francisco State University. He wrote this book and says, it's a biology textbook basically, a science textbook, that says, hey, you know, there must have been some kind of designer.

This is so complicated. This is amazing. There must have been a designer. It doesn't try to get him saved or converted to be a Baptist or a Buddhist or a Catholic. It just says, look, there must be a designer.

He was a tenured biology professor, San Francisco State University. He had written all kinds of books about evolution when he believed in it. Then he got converted and said, you know, I really doubt that theory is true.

It just doesn't work. And so they fired him. But he was tenured. So he sued them and got his job back. And they put him in as a lab assistant washing test tubes, stuff that, you know, the students do.

He had to sue them again to get his real job back. Just because he said, I think there might be a creator to this universe. That's the type of persecution you get. When I spoke in Lubbock, Texas, several years ago, they had a professor there named Dr. Dini, D-I-N-I, who teaches biology.

He told his students, if you don't believe in evolution, don't come ask me for a recommendation to go off to medical school, because I won't give you one. He said, it was on his website for years. He said, if you don't believe in evolution, you'll never get a recommendation from me.

Well, when I went to speak there in Lubbock, Texas, the students offered Dr. Dini $1 ,000 if he would debate me for two hours. And he refused. A thousand bucks for two hours. That's pretty good money, Leah.

How would you like to make $1 ,000 for two hours? He said, no, he won't do it. The persecution that happens against Christians and against creationists in the secular school system is mind-boggling. What are they afraid of?

So I say, well, it's not true that all scientists believe in creation, but many scientists that do believe in creation are afraid to say anything, because they know the kind of persecution you're going to get.

How many teachers were there in Ukraine that did not believe in communism, but didn't dare say anything about it? If you don't even smile right at Stalin, he'd kill you. You know, you'd end up in the gulag someplace.

That's the kind of things happen in America, believe it or not. If a person doesn't support the evolution theory vocally and actively, they'll be banished to academic Siberia. They lose their grant money.

They will lose their job. It's sad. And Patrick Henry College was told back in November of 2002, I believe, that they weren't going to get accreditation because they didn't teach enough evolution in their college.

There's an article in Agape Press here. A university professor said she was asked to resign for introducing elite students to flaws in Darwinian thought at the Mississippi University for Women. I spoke just north of there a few weeks after this happened.

I talked to some of the people involved. This lady was told she had to resign her job because her teaching might make students doubt Darwinism. What are they going to school for, an education or indoctrination?

Yeah, you're going to get an education, I thought. It used to be that way, but it's just not anymore. It's pretty sad. This lady said that this professor that wanted to fire her hadn't even heard her speech, but she was raising doubts about Darwinism.

All kinds of scientists down through history, I mean like thousands of them, all the branches of science were started by creationists. There's a list. There's a good list on Answers in Genesis. Just go to answersingenesis .org website and type in scientists who believe creation.

It'll bring up all kinds of articles and you can read about all these scientists down through history who have been creationists. Very famous scientists. I've often asked evolutionists, I say, guys, can you name me one advancement in modern science we've had because of the evolution theory?

Is that why we have computers? Is that why we have, you know, telephones, radios? Is that why we went to the moon? What advancements can get named because of this evolution theory? They've never given an answer.

There is nothing. The theory is useless. But all major science, all the whole branches of science in the last 400 years were started by creationists. Now they weren't all young earth creationists like me and they certainly weren't all independent temperamental fundamental right-wing radical Baptists like me, but they were, you know, creationists.

Wernher von Braun, the head of our space program, was a creationist. A .E. Wildersmith, William Ramsey, the Wright brothers, they studied birds. They said, we want to see how the designer, the creator, how God made the birds and we'll learn how to make an airplane by studying airplanes.

The guy who invented the MRI, Magnetic Resonance Imaging Machine, is a young earth creationist. There are creationists today. There are a couple of good books we have in our library or for sale on our website.

In Six Days is one and On the Seventh Day. This is 50 scientists who believe in creation. Here's 40 more scientists who believe in creation. You can get these. There are thousands of scientists who do believe in creation, do not believe in evolution.

Karl Popper, a famous leading philosopher of science, he said, evolution is not a fact. Evolution doesn't even qualify as a theory or hypothesis. It's a metaphysical research program. It's not really testable science.

Evolution is a religion. And they get so angry when I tell them that, which is probably why I tell them that, you know, every few minutes because I enjoy pushing the right buttons, you know. Julian Huxley, his grandfather, Thomas Huxley, was the guy who really pushed Darwin when Darwin's book came out.

Julian Huxley said, I suppose the reason we leapt at Origin of Species was the idea of God interfered with our sexual mores. We don't want God telling us what to do. That's why they've accepted evolution.

Michael Ruse said, evolution is promulgated, promoted by its practitioners as more than a mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion, a full-fledged alternative to Christianity with meaning and morality.

He said, I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian. But I must admit that in this one complaint, and Mr. Geshe is one of many to make it, the literalists are right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it's true of evolution still today.

Evolution is a religion in every sense of the word. Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. The theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It's useless. So it's not true they all believe it.

Nearly all branches of science were started by creationists. Evolution theories added nothing to science. When students or professors fear expressing their real honest thoughts, they're not getting educated, they're getting indoctrinated.

Students get flunked for not supporting the evolution theory. Every week when I go out and speak, somebody will come to me and say, when I was in biology class, I wrote a paper and the teacher gave me an F because it didn't support evolution, or because I dared to go against the evolution theory.

I get calls like that. Diane, you take some of the calls and transfer them over to me. Students saying, hey, what do I do? My teacher gave me an F because my paper went against evolution. It's sad. I mean, it's discrimination.

All the advancements in modern technology have nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is a hindrance to science, not a help at all. Okay, next question. What about separation of church and state? Well, there's no such phrase in the Constitution.

You can get the entire Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence for one dollar. This little book, Citizen's Rule book, excellent book. Everybody ought to read this one. It's got a great story in here about the jurors.

It's amazing the power that jurors have. One juror can decide he doesn't like the law. And if a person, if they pass a law in your city that says, you know, you can't spit on the sidewalk, and somebody spits on the sidewalk, and they videotape him.

They got the whole thing. He broke the law. I mean, take him to court. It's proven. He broke the law. But you as a juror say, I don't like that law. I don't think it's fair to say you can't spit on the sidewalk.

The judge is going to threaten all the jurors and say, no, you have to rule according to the law. You've got to listen to my instruction. You don't have to listen to anything that judge says. He's blowing smoke, okay?

Smile, nod your head. When you get in that jury room, you vote not guilty. And the rest of the jurors are going to think you're nuts. What do you mean not guilty? You saw the tape. You saw it. Yes, I know.

But the law is no good. Jury nullification. Powerful, powerful story here. Anyway, the Constitution does not mention separation of church and state. You should get the Federalist Papers. Those are all the papers that the founding fathers wrote as they were developing this Constitution.

And you can see their thinking process. The same day they voted for the First Amendment, you know, which people often say separation of church and state, which is not what it says. It says the government shall not make a religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.

But that same day, Congress voted to send $25 ,000 to help a Catholic missionary start a mission to help the Indians in St. Louis. They were not trying to separate church from state. They wanted to keep the state out of the church, but not keep the church out of the government.

No phrase in the Constitution about separation of church and state. And it's perfectly fine for Christian teachers to do all kinds of Christian things in their school. My brother taught 34 years public school, had a picture of Jesus right by his desk all 34 years.

Many teachers keep a Bible right on their desk. Now, if they give you a hard time, the principal might say you can't do that. I'm not saying you won't get persecution. But as far as legally, you can. There's lc .org, libertycouncil .org, Matt Stavers' organization.

He handles cases like that. David Gibbs, they do stuff like that. David Gibbs, it's his organization in Orlando, Florida. So yes, if you have trouble, you know, see one of those folks. But what happened?

Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to some Baptist pastors, and he's the one that mentioned the phrase in the letter, separation of church and state. And now the atheists are using that to say, oh, you can't have Christian things in government.

What a dumb idea. Our country was founded to be a Christian country. They all said that. Go to wallbuilders .com, David Barton's great website. He's got lots of stuff on, there's no such thing as separation of church and state.

So don't fall for that. And we can cover more on that in our college class. Here's what's happened though. The Constitution to the United States, Article 1, Section 10 says, you have the right to make a contract.

Let's suppose Adam says, Brother Hovind, I'm going to pay you $10 an hour the rest of my life. Okay. And he signs a contract. And then he does not fulfill the contract. Well, then I can sue him. And he could say, I've got a constitutional right to keep my money.

Yes, you do. But you also have a constitutional right to make a contract. And you made a contract. So the judge is just going to uphold contract law. Okay. A question that I very frequently get asked, I would say every single week I go speak, which is 52 weeks a year now for 16 years.

Every single week somebody will say, now Hovind, how do we see stars billions of light years away? You say the earth is only 6 ,000 years old. How do we see the stars? Yesterday on the radio program on the website, Dr. Dino, some guy called in and said, now Hovind, I did some studies and in a 6 ,000 year light year radius, we'd only have so many cubic miles and all the stars wouldn't fit.

He said, wait, wait, wait. Who said anything about a 6 ,000 mile radius? He said, well, you're the one that said the universe is only 6 ,000 years old. Yes, I did. But I did not say all the stars are within a 6 ,000 light year radius.

I've never said that. That would be ludicrous. But how do we see the stars billions of light years away if the universe is only 6 ,000 years old? And I believe the Bible clearly teaches it's only 6 ,000 years old and God made everything.

Actually, He made the earth first in Genesis 1 and then verse 14, He made the stars also. Evolution says He made the stars evolve first and then the earth. Well, there's certainly a lot of stars out there.

Nehemiah 9 says, thou, even thou art Lord alone, thou hast made the heaven, the heaven of heavens. God is claiming that He made them. So, either He did or He didn't. But what about the stars? How do they fit in?

Astronomers can see a star blow up about every 30 years. It's not like it's on a timetable. It might be every 5 years. It might be every 50 years. But on an average, every 30 years, a star explodes. And they're looking out there with their telescope and say, oh wow, there's a new one.

A star exploded. It's called a nova. Or if it's a big one, they call it a supernova. Nova in Spanish means no go. By the way, the Chevy Nova did not sell very well in Mexico for that reason. Hey, do you want to buy a nova?

No. Why would I do that? It won't go. But stars blow up every 30 years. Well, they've searched the heavens with these telescopes looking for how many supernova rings are there. They call it a dead star.

They can find less than 300. Now wait a minute. If there are less than 300 supernova rings, and one happens every 30 years, you can do the math. I mean, that's about 9 ,000 years. If the universe is billions of years old, there ought to be a whole lot more supernova rings out there.

Why are there less than 300 supernova rings? Because it's less than 10 ,000 years old? Boy, they don't like that answer at all. But that's the logical conclusion. Anyway, if stars are blowing up every 30 years, we would have to have at least one star born every 30 years just to keep the balance.

I mean, countries that have a population problem because they're getting less births and deaths, like Germany, more people are dying than being born. Oh, well, eventually that's going to create a problem.

Stars should have to be born. Nobody's ever seen one star form, not one. We see them blow up all the time. They've never seen a star form, and I'll cover that in a second. Its last estimate by Hubble telescope was that there are 76 trillion stars.

Seventy sextillion. They say the universe is 20 billion years old, but you can do the math. That means six and a half million stars would have to form every minute. We'd have to have six and a half million stars forming every minute for 20 billion years to make the stars that we know about.

That doesn't count the ones we don't know about because we can't see them yet. Who knows how many stars are out there? Sometimes the textbooks will say, well, there are new stars being constantly born in clouds of gas and dust.

This is so stupid. How a physics textbook can teach this? I don't know. Anybody that knows freshman physics knows when you try to squeeze gases together, it pressure builds up, temperature builds up, and it drives them back apart.

It's called Boyle's gas law. Nobody has ever seen dust collapsing into a solid. It would take such incredible pressure to do that. I was in a debate one time and this professor, I asked him, I said, how can you get dust to collapse into a solid?

Explain that to me. He said, well, we calculated that if 20 stars explode near each other, it'll produce enough pressure to make a brand new star. I said, now that's brilliant. You got to lose 20 to gain one.

I said, you ought to run for Congress. You could help those guys borrow their way out of debt. It's not going to get a universe full of stars if you got to lose 20 to gain one. Even that is only theoretical.

It's never been observed. I was in Alamogordo, New Mexico, and they've got a science center down there and they showed these pictures of star babies. They said, oh, this is a new star forming. No, sir, it's a bright spot.

One guy in Science Magazine admitted, the silent embarrassment of modern astrophysics is we do not know how even a single one of these stars manage to form. Nobody knows how stars can form from dust clouds.

No one has unambiguously observed material falling into an embryonic star, which should be happening if the star is truly still forming. And no one has caught a molecular cloud in the act of collapsing.

Precisely how a section of interstellar cloud collapses gravitationally into a star, a double or multiple star or a solar system is still a challenging theoretical problem. Astronomers have yet to find an interstellar cloud in the actual process of collapse.

The origin of stars represents one of the most fundamental unsolved problems of contemporary physics. This guy said no one really understands how star formation proceeds. It's really remarkable. Nobody knows how this happens.

So if they tell you new stars are forming, you tell them, Kent Hovind said they're confused or they're lying. Because nobody knows how it happens. There's not even a good theory how you can squeeze dust into a star and there's certainly no evidence.

But here's what happens. They see bright spots appear in the clouds. Not in the clouds, in the dust clouds in space. They look at this crab nebula or eagle nebula and they're staring at it and all of a sudden one day a spot gets a little brighter.

Oh wow, a star is being born. That's immediately their conclusion that a star is being born. I said wait, wait, wait. Maybe the dust in front of it is clearing and the star was already there. Maybe it's a star blowing up.

Maybe it's another supernova. Because that's what happens when stars supernova, they get really bright. They don't know that a star is forming. So don't let them tell you that we've seen stars form. Nobody has seen such a thing.

All we do is we see them blow up, which is the opposite of what evolutionists need. The Bible says in Genesis chapter 1, let them be for signs and seasons and for days and years and He made the stars also.