The Post War Consensus then Gold from the Prophet Jeremiah

You know a couple days ago I saw a tweet and I'm not sure if this is true or not. I'm not not really sure it'd be wise to find out but there's a picture of a Crayola crayons box and there's a crayon standing upright and the top of it is burning and it says in case of emergency a crayon will burn for 30 minutes.

So I'm sitting here going hmm who tested that? You know it's made of wax so yeah I bet I'll bet you could provide light in the darkness. Boy I tell you what if I'd have known that as a kid. Oh yeah I know I know I'm like all right now we don't have any of them anymore you know the grandkids the grandkids are beyond crayons except for of course now ransom and my son-in-law and daughter are moving.

Did I tell you about that? And they're moving they're going to be 80 miles from us. You know they're a long ways right now I think they're only about 35 so we do that fairly regularly but 80 is going to be pretty tough and so my access to crayons is somewhat limited but yeah well you know it all may wasn't there some tv series about everything went dark uh all electronic stuff stopped working some massive emp or something I don't know it was probably on one of those subscription services that I didn't have yet so I don't know but yeah keep keep a box of crayolas around and you might have something to do there anyway.

Program Update: Eye Issues, Travel, and Doctor Visits

Welcome to the program. It's a Friday and uh look I'll just be straight up front with you. I'm not sure what next week looks like. Um the guy behind the glass over there that is in control the buttons at least for the moment um is going to be heading out of town for most of next week so we were thinking you know Monday Tuesday but I needed to make I really wanted 2025 to be a surgery less year um no surgeries in 2025.

That was sort of my goal um I'll just tell you straight up something's happened with my left eye uh it's still in there and I can still see pretty much fine uh but it's a little foggy and I've been told there's something going on with the retina in that eye has been examined yet could turn out to be nothing.

Probably when you have flashy lights and stuff like that all of a sudden might end up more than that. I am hoping and praying that this is not going to get in the way of the trip we have coming up where I leave somewhere around the 18th 1920 somewhere of February uh we have set up a stop in uh well two two places in Arkansas Conway where the seminary is and I am currently scheduled to be in one of the classes um and then do something sort of just for local students on a Monday night and a Tuesday night and then head straight over to Jonesboro where we are working on setting up two debates.

One would be a two-on-two debate won't be a one-on-one debate uh that's not cemented in stone yet so I haven't said too much about it but it would be the last last day of February first day of March that weekend.

I really want to do all that um but I don't know how fast they can set up eye surgeries and I don't know how fast you can recover depending on what they do. I don't know uh my wife had the whole lens replacement thingamabobby years ago and um man she recovered fast.

Of course she's sort of a bionic woman anyways um you know her pain tolerance is so far above men it's not even funny um so who knows who knows. So I'm I'm just I don't want to see that trip um messed up.

Um if if it is then what we'll have to do is uh combine that with the I think it's April 4th um debate in um Livingston Louisiana which I understood got fair amount of snow um Pensacola too um anyway like I said somebody needs to ask for all their money back from Al Gore all book royalties everything come on man you told us 20 years ago that our kids would not know what snow looked like and and they know what what it looks like.

Anyway I could see doing that because I could go pretty much straight down from um Arkansas and and pick that up and try to make a loop if that's what I have to do but I I hope we don't have to do it that way.

But if we do we do prayers appreciated. We will see uh on Monday. Uh man just getting an appointment with a doctor these days. I tried it by the way just just a little hint. For those of you who are getting older okay uh from those of us who are already into that period um try to be as nice as you possibly can be to the person on the other end of the phone they'll bend over backwards for you if you treat them nicely.

So I had uh a lady call. The lady was going to call me back. You know what they do now is they'll send you a text and it'll tell you who's going to call you within the next five minutes which is I think it's it's not a bad idea you know it sort of makes you make sure you're set sitting down a place where you can talk to them.

Well a young lady named Destiny was supposed to call me. The problem is that let me see this here here here here it goes. Uh oh that's not it. Uh there it is um Destiny is spelled d-e-s-t-e-n-i-e.

And I looked at that and so when she called I said is this Destiny. Yes this is Destiny. So how many times per day do you have to spell your first name. And she started laughing and I said you have never found a name tag in a gift store that had your name on it.

Have you. Nope not. Once I said what was your mama thinking. And she just she's just laughing and you know and I tell you something you know sure you'll end up talking to people who are having a really really bad day and they they don't care.

But for most folks you get them you you talk to like a human being and and we all have our stuff to deal with. Um and uh you know they'll they'll they'll bend over backwards to get stuff done for you.

They really will. And so what ended up happening is after a lot of time on the phone over the past two days I have a doctor's appointment 8 45 on Monday morning so that obviously is going to determine what can happen next week as far as the program is concerned.

I mean I can't imagine anything happening that fast as far as you know but but I've had at least two of the people I've called uh had suggested I go to the ER and I'm like nope been there done that got the t-shirt.

It's it's bad enough to have something going on with your eye. I don't need the 47 diseases I will be exposed to in the waiting room at the ER on top of all that. No don't don't want any any of that at all.

So anyway so we'll see I there's a there's a very small part of me a very childish part of me they would love to do a dividing line with an eye patch on.

Our matey.

You thought pirate christian radio was something. I'm the real thing you know.

Yeah I don't want it. That that could be. You remember we're talking about uh the dystopian dividing line. We could really pull that off. Have you all dirtied up. Yeah I could do the.

Mad max thing or uh what was uh what was the other one other one. Yeah there have been a few eye patch dystopian stuff. Yeah yeah you know that next week we're preparing to fly.

And deal with TSA. Right. Yeah. Well we have to. Okay here's the thing. Yeah you you don't get to borrow the RV. Sorry. Something. Yeah really. Thank you. Something new in the equation as the wife now goes through the metal detectors.

Yeah. So that whole situation folks remember from back in September she fell wound up with an.

Artificial shoulder and now we have but is it like carbon fiber or is it we don't know.

Everything we're being told is you have to tell them up front at TSA that you have an artificial shoulder and then they have to make special arrangements and and wand you. So fun times huh.

Oh no no not not at all not in the least bit no you know back in the Lance Armstrong days the cycling um I don't know how many times he broke his collarbone every cyclist I don't know you know I've only crashed once and I thankfully did not break my collarbone but professional cyclists break them right left and center.

It's just ridiculous. Um a bunch of people got upset because Lance Armstrong broke his collarbone and they put in a carbon fiber uh replacement and everybody's like that's weight advantage he's that's like two grams weight advantage right there you know yeah I'm not really sure that's gonna make that much of a difference but uh yeah you know maybe carbon fiber is pretty special stuff I've flown an entire aircraft that were made of carbon fiber uh which makes you doesn't make you think about it but anyways so next week we will see uh what goes on there.

The PWC Crowd, R. R. Reno, and the Post-War Consensus

Um so this morning I got up and I uh uh I did post this I posted something on uh on twitter and uh I found out some things about myself uh this morning um and I found out that I am a part of the PWC crowd so the the tweet from this gentleman says the p pwc crowd Wilson White Barry et al um has been imploding at warp speed likely because they are losing so badly and getting desperate.

They were relevant for a second for a second because of covid but now their moment has slipped away so I I be honest with you you know stuff like this this is projection this is it's actually going the other direction people are really starting to catch on to stuff but I I was like the pwc crowd and now I know what they're talking about but someone wisely uh said when I responded to this uh Dr. White you will always be part of the person with cats crowd I'm afraid may as well accept it and uh so uh I am part of the person with cats crowd and uh uh happily so so I don't mind being a part of that but I don't I don't I've been to Doug Wilson's home I didn't see a cat um I could be wrong I there may have been a dog I'm not sure um and I and I don't know Barry the Mr. Barry very well so I don't I don't know if that fits together but uh yeah uh and and then when I I said uh I specifically wrote here's what I said I said I have learned that I am a part of the pwc crowd this is news to me given the majority of folks using the acronym could not possibly consistently define if they tried and as it is used by Roman Catholics like Reno need to mention this R. R. Reno wrote the return of the strong gods which you know he's been interviewed by all sorts of evangelical outlets and and stuff like that and says a lot of true things.

He has a whole chapter on post-war consensus and that's not how these guys are using it. They think they are but they're they're not. And uh but I forgot to grab the book I don't think I left it in here now I put it in the Roman Catholic section I finally made the connection a while ago and I don't know if I mentioned this in the program I don't think I did um about two years ago two and a half three years ago I I did bring in here because I have it um a book forget what the name I guess I could look it up fast enough but um I brought in the book and I said hey here's here's where people are coming from these days and no I don't want to switch accounts uh R. R. Reno Reno yeah return of the strong gods I think that's probably that's 2021 book that's probably one of his bigger ones um resurrecting the idea of a Christian society 2016.

But this was the one that I that I did talk about and it was only about two and a half years ago maybe only two years ago I pointed I held it up the end of interpretation reclaiming the priority of ecclesial exegesis.

This is an attack on the sufficiency of scripture. He became Roman Catholic convert Roman Catholicism. And so this book came out in 2022. Same guy and I haven't heard anybody mentioning that. You know I think most people say well you know it doesn't really matter you know you can you can have good pop you know good analysis of cultural stuff as a Roman Catholic and well yeah on certain things.

But again if you're talking about the strong gods how do you interpret that when you interpret what Reno's talking about in regards to nationalism family patriarchy anything else like that how you interpret that is going to be very very determinative as to whether you have a lens of natural law or a lens of scriptural supremacy.

It's going to be going to make a real difference down the road. And I I listened to some interviews that people did with him. Nobody nobody brought any of that up. Uh because I think most people are afraid uh to raise issues regarding Roman Catholicism.

I really do I think that's that's one of the problems but yeah the end of interpretation. I remember holding it up and talking about what it said uh just a couple years ago and it took me a while to make the connection between you know the the two books return of the strong gods and uh that particular work.

So anyway that's what I was referring to when I said um and as it is used by Roman Catholics like Reno refers to globalist leftism anti-national perspectives etc. Anybody thinking anyone thinking I'm a part of that crowd is not doing well on the mental or honesty front.

In fact the way I put it later was um uh something along lines of uh anyone thinking along those lines has is tweeting too late at night after too many beers uh because it just doesn't make any sense.

But someone did respond to that here it is guy guy gal I don't know called song of songs uh provide a graphic and this is interesting. It says that this is this is the definition of the post-war consensus after world war ii all right white people bad white people bad.

Well you know what I'm on that one. Of course I also believe that brown people are bad and black people are bad and yellow people bad and green people are bad and turquoise people are bad because I believe Romans 3.

Um there is none good. No not one. So yeah white people are bad and brown people are bad. But I have a feeling in this context it's supposed to be white people are bad but everybody else is good which would be absurd.

And so if I'm in this group um named James White and I believe that white people are bad as in over against non-white people. That's yeah I don't exactly check that box. Do I no national sovereignty bad.

Nope uh God creates nations and God creates borders and God uh God's sovereign all those things. And I've defended the goodness of national sovereignty and the fact that God will judge nations and all that stuff.

So yeah uh nope not uh check that box off. Jews holy and never to be criticized again. Um nope um I I don't believe any of that stuff. I'm not a dispensationalist. I don't believe that the modern nation state of Israel is a fulfillment of any kind of biblical prophecy or anything like that at all.

Uh so yeah don't don't go there. True Christianity stupid and dangerous. This is this is what the post-war consensus is that that true Christianity is stupid and dangerous. Well again all you know I might be able to find some purple-haired white-eyed white-skinned liberal women that would check off all these boxes but not me.

Um I obviously don't believe true Christianity is stupid and dangerous. Of course I'm wondering who's defining true Christianity here too. Um foreign policy and war making must sync with supporting Israel and American Jews.

Bank accounts see neocons. Oh yeah that's a me right uh currency never to be in control of the wealth creators. Parentheses whites parentheses closed. Not even sure what's being referred to but has nothing to do with me.

And finally anything that goes against the post-war consensus is Hitler. Now I heard somebody say that I heard somebody uh basically define the post-war consensus as summary. Was Hitler bad um which which of course is is silly.

But um if that's what post-war consensus is uh who came up with this. Anyways that's not what Reno's saying. No no serious scholars don't do stuff like this uh but anons on uh on twitter uh do do that kind of stuff fairly regularly.

So yeah that's not what the post-war consensus is. And it certainly not um doesn't have anything to do with me. So um yeah I I'm not sure how that puts me and Doug and Mr. Barry uh in the same same group.

But it obviously obviously uh doesn't. Um and it is sort of funny now. By the way the uh tweet that I was looking at was in response to Andrew Torba um who likewise uh responded to that saying it must be difficult to see your entire worldview dismantled and falling apart before your eyes on a daily basis.

Um you know I I'm I'm not sure what Andrew Torba thinks my worldview is. He's he's criticized me I've criticized him I'm not sure what he thinks my worldview is or how it is falling apart. It seems like these guys who are social media mavens um they're not concerned about the coherence and cogency of their argumentation.

They're concerned about getting to use buzzwords that keep their anon army in a constant state of jazzedness. You know uh keep them excited. Uh so you you know something's worldview is being dismantled and falling apart.

Really um in what way. Specifically. And that's been my experience every time I challenge these guys every time I take the time. Okay all right now this guy maybe has 505 followers so I'll go ahead and challenge them.

And when I ask for specifics when I ask for worldview reasoning when I ask for anything like that they just fall apart. And they either run for the hills disappear um or you just get this emotional type of response.

What. Well yeah ad hominem personal attacks. I'm not gonna ever deal with what you're actually saying. Um and that just seems to be uh what's going on with with these folks. And you cannot put together a long-term movement based on this foundation.

That's why I said I hope that the day will come when those who have gotten sucked into this stuff uh will recognize wow I took the wrong turn someplace and we'll come back and we'll go. I've seen where I took the wrong turn.

We'll do that again. And sorry for all the nastiness that was launched your direction. But uh that's that's how things went. Um now I also saw a tweet by the same individual. And how many memes today are pictures of Donald Trump signing some executive order or holding it up.

And then you just you take the text out you put the text in you want and you know I've seen somebody even put orthodox icons in so he's holding up you know the two-page thing of an x and they put in orthodox icons.

You know winning winning. That's yeah uh so so on uh January 21st Trump signs executive order America will be celebrating white boy summer for the next four years. Can't stop won't stop um again white boy summer Nazi adjacent Nazi supporting Nazi promoting um stuff.

And it is I mean there's this this there is no question there is zero question here when you have videos that have the founder of the Nazi party in the United States one of Hitler's defenders in the UK.

You didn't just stumble across those people and accidentally put them in. Okay um this is purposeful this is intentional. And since everybody now knows that then anybody supporting that stuff and talking about white boys you know who you're dealing with you know where they're coming from you know what their intentions are.

Um just just wake up and realize it. Um so a couple days I think two days ago uh I saw a graphic another meme and it was from this uh seems like a kid seems like he's about 14 15 years old evangelical dark web.

Okay real nasty guy real real nasty childish super duper immature needs needs a good spanking is what he needs. Um that's my mom used to say yeah and all of us are going yeah uh you wait till your father gets home grab grab by the ear yeah the whole night yeah and so you've all seen this um thing where you got this little kid and the road branches two different directions and so the question is which way reformed man.

So um it may have been Stephen Wolfe himself who made it. Maybe somebody else made it for him. I don't know but there was one a few months ago that had me and Stephen Wolfe and uh I was on one side the other which way reformed man.

There's there's a germ of truth to these things because we are going very different directions we are not on the same road we're not on the same path we're not proving the same things. Um the the end result is very very different.

And I'll just remind everyone once again give it a year at the rate it's going it may not take a year. Okay. Uh it's it's happening fast faster than I expected it to. I've I've said between now and April you're going to see all this development because with that conference coming up Stephen Wolfe speaking the people there are going to really be struggling to maintain any kind of independence from Wolfian Christian nationalism if they're going to be speaking at the same thing with him and so you're going to see.

And we are seeing uh positions that used to be held by these men being abandoned to take the Stephen Wolfe perspective uh things in regards to theonomy and presuppositionalism supremacy of scripture uh sufficiency of scripture all these types of things.

And you just see that happening. I mean if if look if you're you cannot be a Thomas Aquinas fan and a consistent notice the word consistent consistent defender of scriptural sufficiency because he didn't believe in that.

Now he did not. And I wrote two articles on this no one's ever bothered to even try to respond to them. Uh he did not. Aquinas did not have the modern perspective of Rome on this. And by the way we need to be talking I need to make sure that I talk about uh Francis's tweet uh that he put out um what.

Well it's sort of weird. Yeah we'll talk about in a second. Um Aquinas wasn't as bad as modern Rome is because the reformation had not yet taken place. Explain that when you have a outbreaking of light and truth as you had in the reformation you either submit to that truth or you become more uh dogged in your denial of the truth and hence probably move farther into the realm of untruth and error.

And so Aquinas isn't dealing with the reformers. He doesn't have a brilliant well-framed argumentation like you have from Calvin for example. And so he he's not going to be as radical just as he doesn't promote the bodily assumption of Mary as a dogma and um rejects the at least currently defined form of the Immaculate Conception doesn't mean he's not compromised on Marian dogmas.

Because he is most most definitely obviously um but he's not as nearly as radical as modern Roman Catholicism or shall I say Tridentine Council of Trent Roman Catholicism. Um so once you you know move into that realm you're gonna be in that realm of Thomas Aquinas is my homeboy uh you're you're gonna be challenged I think to be consistent in your uh hermeneutics in your in your apologetics.

Uh that's why uh you know the whole R .C. Sproul thing has always been so strange and why he wrote the book on classical apologetics with uh Gerstner and Lindsley that was I just thought really bad because it was um in in how it approached those type of topics.

It's this is how it happens. So anyways there's the graphic for the um Christ is King How to Defeat Trash World Conference um and then the graphic for ReformCon and they've been put up there which way ReformMan and I commented I said you know if this was to be accurate um what you'd have is the path would be going straight and then straight to ReformCon and then it would branch off to one side to the other.

Because you look at not all because I mean uh uh Calvin Robinson's on there Stephen Wolfe's on there um but large majority of everybody else that is on that graphic uh would have been with us only a matter of a few years ago.

Um I mean Joe Boot and I uh have both spoken at uh conferences with Joel Webben within the past two years and so this has happened fairly quickly and if you look at where we all are we haven't changed our perspectives um we don't sit around talking about the post-war consensus um we obviously are not uh driven by a commitment thereto or anything even slightly relevant to that and anybody who says otherwise is just simply not functioning on an honest intellectual basis just being dishonest or demonstrating an ignorance on a level that's pretty hard to fathom uh so we haven't changed and I would say looking at everyone speaking um at the uh ReformCon coming up in April uh if you asked us the key questions concerning Christian worldview apologetics uh basis upon which God judges nations national sins it must be repented of um all that stuff we would have given the same answer back then that we'll give a ReformCon we haven't changed.

But it is beyond question that many of the people in the other graphic have and will not give the answer they would have given only two years ago or at most four or five years. So the the graphic should have been straight road keeps going other branches off over here if if there that was the intention of the dark evangelical web or evangelical dark web or whatever the guy's name is the kid that does all the stuff um if it was their intention to provide something that was insightful or something like that uh but it wasn't it was meant to do other things and uh but again I just point this out it is it is the reality it is the way uh that things uh things are so anyway um one last thing I I don't know if you saw that I tweeted this but man I wish we had a governor um it would be we we don't really have a governor in the state of Arizona and that's that's a bad we're stuck with the woman who stole the election in 2020 till 2026 but she just uh again she she's in the same boat there Arizona is in the same situation that the United States has been in for the past four years.

You never see her out doing anything. She she never did a debate um she can't do a debate. She's a complete ditz. She really is just just I mean wow there's total empty suit so I don't know who's running the state.

Thankfully uh we have a republican legislature and there's only so much she can do I mean she's doing damage but there's only so much she can do. We can't get anything done in the state right now. Um and so and you go well why would Arizona have problems with this well easy Arizona State University University of Arizona NAO we have three universities and where you have universities you have cultural stupidity.

You just they're big blue dots and the how did rush used to call them heads minds full of mush or brains full skulls full of mush uh that get to vote and they vote the way they're told to vote they're just zombies.

Just like go do this the professor says and so they go do it and the professor is happy um so that's yeah that's why we have what we what we have uh in the state of Arizona which used to man when I moved here I remember we moved here in 1974.

Okay and in 1974 you could you could see somebody walking down the street even though their phoenix is so spread out that walking down the street's a rather strange way of putting it but walking into a store with a 45 not a not a auto semi-auto but the a long colt 45 you know the old cowboy gun and a cowboy hat on and nobody gave a second thought.

It's like no no no we did. We came from Arizona from a little Pennsylvania and so it was a little bit weird at first but for Arizonans no problem we have been invaded by so many Californians that everything absolutely everything has changed um and it's had been a very very very well who who ran for president in 1964 Barry Goldwater and where was he from.

Senator from Arizona uh that was oh from Prescott. Oh you see folks you don't get to see what I get to see through the window uh the the pride the Goldwater family.

Started their business in late 1800s in Prescott Arizona. Barry Goldwater is from Prescott Arizona. That's why rich rich. That's why Kerry Lake and those who had that seat John and John McCain started their campaigns each time at the Prescott courthouse because Barry Goldwater always started his campaigns at that courthouse and his presidential start campaign was started out front of that courthouse.

So there. Well first of all I would point out that.

The pride. Uh. Where are you from. Rich. Prescott Arizona. You're from Prescott Arizona. Okay. Home of the world's oldest rodeo by the way. Oh thank you. Thank you. Uh. And and rich. How many of those campaigns that started there were actually successful.

Barry Goldwater's. Well Barry Goldwater failed spectacularly in his presidential campaign. Well in the presidential. But he always won his senate campaign. Well. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The local thing. And uh Kerry Lake.

Kerry. Well you put up a bad candidate. You gotta face it. Face that right. Yeah. But what can I say about that. Just okay. Yeah. And. And you know I'm sorry about John McCain. It's. Well there you go.

Yeah. Um. But he was. McCain was actually from the fourth district. So even though. Yeah. So yeah.

That there's a rhino of of massive proportions. But anyway uh so how did we get on all that. I have no earth idea. I was just gonna say I wish we had a real governor because uh she her controllers her puppet masters uh came out uh today and and said there's could be no deportations in Arizona and all the rest of stuff.

And I'm just sort of like yeah you keep doing that you're gonna make sure we got we we end up with a republican in 2026. All I got to say is good luck with that lady.

Because Tom Holman's made it clear um yeah we'll put you in jail and we'll prosecute you.

So go ahead try it. Yeah we we will see how we will see how long how much how much steam does this movement have. I I I don't know I said on Monday I said by Friday the the courts will be choking with lawsuits.

Uh to to push back and it's and it's happening. Yeah. But you did you hear.

The number that they shipped out of the country. Oh yeah I know the big military jet yesterday.

Yeah 500 yeah I know I know I know I'm not I'm not. I'm not complaining I'm just saying I don't know how long it's going to last uh because it requires backbone on the part of his party and I'm not sure how much backbone there really is.

I'll just I'll just be. I don't know I don't know it just seems to me for every single politician it's all a matter of will I get re-elected or not and if I feel like this is going to hurt my re-election chances.

I'm I'm out of here. So that's my that's my concern. Anyway I was thinking about um there are there are so many really awesome texts of scripture. Obviously scripture as a whole. I I did. Oh by the way um uh I got a message from uh from Jeffrey Rice and he says I can definitely fix that.

Um I put a bunch of bible butter on the leather. It looked really nice for about 10 minutes. It's right. Look come on this poor thing that leather has not been moisturized in 75 years. Okay. Um I'm not 75 yet.

Um but I know what I would look like if I hadn't been moisturized in 75 years. So yeah I'm I'm seriously contemplating seeing if how much how closely he could match the cover and put a put a different cover on and match the little Edwin R. White thing.

Hey as long as that inscription is still in the front that's all that's all that matters. Uh it really is. I mean that was written five uh four years after the end of world war two. Is that a post-war consensus.

I don't know I don't know. It's not that I'd be doing a lot of reading out of it. It is my goodness though I'll be honest with you the first time I read through the bible uh it was probably the same font.

Uh and I did a a new Schofield reference that didn't exist when this when this came out this is this is an old Schofield. And that's what my my dad was raised on. And uh I still still love that uh bible there.

So anyways there's just so much in here. Um I wanted to remind everybody shifting gears big time here I want to remind everybody of one of the one of the texts again. And I I discovered this while writing a book.

Um you know just sort of in passing. I had never heard anybody preach on it. I had never heard anybody who was dealing with Mormonism. For example uh make reference to this. Um but it it's always struck me in the prophet Jeremiah.

Normally when you're talking about Mormonism you're talking about Isaiah. Um Isaiah 40 to 48 stuff like that. But in Jeremiah chapter 10 beginning verse 6 there is none like you. Oh Yahweh you are great and great.

Is your name in might who would not fear you. Oh king of the nations. Indeed it is your due. For among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms there is none like you. But they are altogether senseless and foolish.

They are in a discipline of vanities. It is mere wood beaten silver is brought from Tarshish and gold from Uphaz. The work of a craftsman and of the hands of a goldsmith. Blue and purple are their clothing.

They are all the work of wise craftsmen. So here's here's the description of idolatry. Gold silver uh purple robes on idols. Uh they are the the work of wise craftsmen. But then Jeremiah says but Yahweh is the true god.

Yahweh is the uh now I I should stop for just a moment and give you some extra information here. I suppose I could do that and do this this this and that that that there we go. So here's Yahweh Elohim emeth.

So Yahweh which rendered is Jehovah Elohim emeth. Emeth is true. Yahweh is the true god now. Um I was standing outside the Mormon temple in Mesa a month and a half ago or so and I was looking toward the temple itself.

I'm not sure if they took that building down or they repurposed it because you know. Yeah I don't think you've been out there. The visitors center is now remember where the stage used to be. There was a road right behind it.

It's now on that corner. That's where the visitor center is. It's not on. It's not in front of the temple anymore. Back in the olden days. Um I was asked to leave the visitor center because I started talking with some of the older people there.