Road Trip DL from Salt Lake City

We are live in Salt Lake City, Utah and drove up here from St.

George. I knew it was one of those things down there. And so here we are in Salt Lake City.

Gonna be doing lots of stuff. I've got a debate tomorrow, which if you're praying, you're not gonna be able to watch it unless you're live in Phoenix at the

Outreach to Muslims conference thing that's going on there. And it will, of course, be posted later on.

And I'm looking forward to this debate very carefully, very much. Anyway, so that will be at one o 'clock

Phoenix time, which I think will be, I better know, two o 'clock here in Salt Lake because of the daylight savings insanity that continues to go on and on and on and on.

It will never get fixed. But we will be debating who more accurately communicated the teachings of Jesus or preserved the teachings of Jesus, Paul or Muhammad.

That's a pretty easy one historically and logically, but from the Islamic perspective, especially today, something you need to deal with.

And I'll be doing that right here. I'll be sitting right where I'm sitting right now and hopefully have a few other pictures up.

You'll notice that the pictures are now visible. We fixed that. So you can see my wife and I up there.

And I think that was Frankfurt. And got a nice Mandelbrot fractal there.

And my kitty family is now visible. Yes, all six of them.

Fox, Sophie, Sadie, Tank, Boo Mama and Yo -Yo.

Yes, Boo Mama. I can explain it if you wanted me to. It actually makes sense.

She's the little feral black cat that snuck into our house last year and decided to have her kittens under the chest of drawers.

She'd never been in the house before. And we kept one of them. That's Yo -Yo, the one in the end there.

And she's just hung around. Can't pet her. I managed to catch her and get her spayed, which may be why

I can't pet her even now. But she comes in, sleeps in the house, eats with the other cats, just can't pet her.

She's still semi -feral. But yeah, so there's my family of cats.

And you can see P52 up here. You can only see half of it. You can see the others from the other perspective is more easily seen.

And below that is the best astrophotography picture I've ever taken. I took that at about 8 ,000 feet outside of Flagstaff, Arizona.

And I used to be able to give you all the specs on the camera and everything else, but can't anymore.

It's been a few years. But yeah, that was my best shot. That's Albireo, a beautiful, beautiful, probably fake binary star.

It's probably not a gravitational binary, but just an optical binary. But those colors are right.

You look through a telescope, and that's what you're going to see. It's just beautiful, just gorgeous, the gold and the blue.

Anyway, so here we are. Got everything put together. We're finding stuff.

Half of the plugs fell out of where they're supposed to be plugged into. So I'm trying to turn stuff on, and nothing's working.

And I'm looking down there, these plugs hanging. It's what you get when you try to make things travel in a travel trailer.

You have to find a way to basically not glue them in, obviously, but strap them in there so they don't fall out.

The power for this camera ended up down below someplace, and now the amount of core that it had before doesn't seem to have any more.

So obviously, it somehow rerouted itself. No idea. But you experiment and go, oh, that didn't work.

Oh, that did work. Like these monitors have stayed perfectly in place. They seem to be very happy.

But other stuff bounces around. That's how stuff happens. So there you go. So anyway, pray for the debate tomorrow.

One o 'clock Mountain Standard Time. We're always on Standard Time. You guys play with this daylight stuff. We don't.

So I think it's about two hours, a little over two hours, I hope. I just got word that Shabir doesn't want as much cross -examination.

None of my opponents want a lot of cross -examination for some reason. I'm not sure why. Actually, I'm very sure why.

And then a week from tomorrow in Ogden is the

Jacob Hansen debate. And there's some question about being able to have it where we're going to be having it, just simply because so many

Mormons want to come. And remember, the advertised title is,

The God of Calvinism is Morally Repugnant or Reprehensible. One of the two. Same meaning, either direction.

Looking forward to that. And there will be, oh, wait a minute.

Is that Friday or Saturday? I think that's Friday. Yeah, I think that's Friday. Sorry. Because Saturday is

General Conference. We'll see. We'll see. That's down the road a little bit.

So here we are. And we're in the new travel trailer setup here.

I'm parked in Sun City, Arizona. I'm parked in Salt Lake City, where there is no snow anywhere.

Last time I was here, I got socked in by a blizzard after Jeff and I did a debate at the

University of Utah. He managed to get out before it hit. But I had our old, back then it was brand new,

Jacob travel trailer before all the stuff went wrong with it. And I was just a few slots from where I am now and watching the snow come down.

And as I was driving up here, there's almost no snow in the mountains at all. There's just nothing.

The West is in deep trouble this summer. Just mark my words. You're talking mega drought.

There'll be a lot of farmers, dependent upon the Colorado River. They're not going to be planting crops.

Food prices are going to go through the roof. And I was talking with someone about that today.

You can't even suggest to the vast majority of evangelicals that this has anything to do with the judgment of God.

No, no, no. The idea, see, if stuff like this had happened 100 years ago, there would have been calls for national repentance and prayers to God for rain.

That can't happen anymore. Because most of the evangelical church has accepted the idea that God isn't sovereign over what takes place in the world anyways.

And the idea that a people could repent, you know, I mentioned something about this on X and this guy got all upset.

Well, there'll be plenty of water. Everything's going to be fine and dandy. And I'm like, well, isn't it sort of a biblical thing that when a people pray to God for rain or for drought or famine, that it's supposed to be associated with repentance?

Remember the sackcloth and ashes thing? That part, maybe this is the result of easy believism.

The whole idea of repentance. And I guess there are some people, even the reformed camp, in sort of the radical two kingdoms stuff, that would say that's

Christless Christianity. Christless Christianity? Jesus didn't say anything about repentance?

God, he did. Lots, a number of times. Who knows?

But anyway, people in the West, just, there hasn't been any snow this winter.

It's been warm and there are certain results to all of that.

And that's all there is to it. Anyway, that's not any of the topics we're going to be looking at.

I do need to finish my presentation for tomorrow after the program today. I've got most of it done. Right now, it's just, do you want to try to sneak that in?

Are you going to have enough time to do it? It's hard to say. It's a different format than what

I'm accustomed to. And of course, I have to somehow be doing all this in here at the same time.

It will be interesting. I don't know if Shabir is going to have someone helping him with all his technical stuff, but it's me, myself, and I in here, that's for sure.

But it is a tremendous opportunity to utilize this space and this technology that is available to us.

And I have a feeling we'll probably be doing more of these in the future, somewhere down the road.

A story crossed my feed about a woman in Spain named

Noelia. Noelia's parents get divorced. State takes custody from parents.

Sent to state youth center at age 13. Gets gang raped by three migrants.

There, the suspects don't face criminal charges. She tries to kill herself, ends up paralyzed.

The state helps by euthanizing her at 25 against the wishes of her loving family.

You would read something like that and go, come on, someone's making that up. The problem is

I'm seeing these stories repeated over and over and over again.

And there is a advertisement here. I really, really wish they would not just automatically turn on.

And I'm going to have to do that. And then that. Okay.

I no longer have my computer on the system. It's plugged in.

But I didn't test it. And I just hit the button. And it's a big, well, wait a minute.

Okay. Here we go. I guess I have to drag this down here.

All right. It only wants to do this one. And I go like this. And I'm hoping that this will play.

I'll watch it. It's certainly loud enough in here. You'll probably be able to read it. Listen to it. This is an actual, do you call it an advertisement?

I don't know that ad or advertisement or something like that would be the proper term to use, to be honest with you.

But it's from Canada. And I saw something recently that said that Canada was coming toward their, how many people they killed?

200 ,000? Or was it a million? I forgot what the number was. It was huge.

It was a big, big number. And Canada is just embracing the culture of death.

Europe has embraced the culture of death. We are embracing the culture of death in the United States. The abortion industry, of course, is the primary manifestation of the culture of death.

The LGBTQ movement is the essence as well of the culture of death because LGBTQ, all of it leads to no children, no life, no production, self -centered, narcissistic, all of that.

It's a part of the culture of death. And of course, the T, mutilation of the body, part of the culture of death.

And so this is the end of life or that's what it started. Remember, some of you might not.

When euthanasia, I remember the first time

I heard someone use the term euthanasia. And I'm like, what's wrong with the youth in Asia?

Is there something wrong with youth over there that's not wrong with youth someplace else? Maybe that was before I took

Greek or something, or I just didn't think about it. Euthanasia is good death. Sanatao is to kill or to die.

And so you, good, with euthanasia, good death. And so that movement initially was end of life stuff.

Someone who's terminally ill, suffering horribly, and they don't want to endure that any longer.

That was the start. Now, as you know, you literally have in Canada and places in Europe, teenagers, minors before 18, suing to have the right to end their lives with doctor assistance, make it nice and painless.

See, it's not scary that way. And this is the culture of death before birth, at birth.

You see a Kermit Gosnell died last week in prison.

And the only reason he'd been put in prison is that he had done such late term abortions that babies were born alive.

And then he would literally use scissors to snip their spinal cords in their neck to kill them. And that's what they got him for.

If he had just done it inside the womb, hero, but he did it outside the womb.

And so villain, justice, what justice?

Where's justice? I have no earthly idea. And so before birth, at birth, afterward with transitioning and mutilization, then medical assistance in dying, made, medical assistance in dying.

Let's pick up with the teenagers. If we can't get them mutilated, then we can convince them that they are having so much depression that they need to go ahead and die.

All the way through to the point of death. And there it is. This is

Western culture today. Once it has embraced a secular worldview.

A secular worldview, I have said it over and over again, is not some neutral.

Well, we just don't include religious ideas. No. Secularism is the fundamental rejection of everything good that Jesus ever taught.

Everything good that created the culture that developed all the wonderful things we have around us now, gave us peace and prosperity and all that kind of stuff.

What has happened now? Once secularism comes in, we see it all around us.

The foundations are gone. The structure is collapsing. So here is an ad, advertisement, something from Canada.

And I just want you to think about the ramifications of what you hear here.

It unfortunately starts a couple seconds, it seems, into the actual thing.

I hope this works. We're going to find out here. Okay. Stop.

Stop that. I hate trying to play these things. Okay. That's not working.

I'm not 100 % certain why. I thought I had it. I think

I have a feeling I know what it might be, but that doesn't make any sense, because that would mean that everything had to have changed.

So, okay. Fundamentally, it is,

I'm just going to have to describe it to you. I can't play it. It's just not working. Nothing's showing in the

ATEM. So something's got disconnected. I don't know. We'll figure it out eventually.

That came through what? A video? Something came through the video?

I didn't even switch over to the Mac. The audio, yeah, I know. The audio was just coming through the speaker.

But I'm trying to play a video, and it doesn't show up on the screen. In fact,

I was going to play you a bunch of videos, and none of them are going to show up on the screen. Could be a short program tonight.

That came through, yeah. Yeah? The video showed up?

Is that what you're saying? I'm waiting for response here. Sorry, guys.

We're doing new things here. What does yeah mean?

Does yeah mean the sound came through? I know the sound came through. But does yeah mean the video came through? Because if it's so, then

I'll play it. But if the video did not come through, it did not appear on the screen, which there's no way it could have, because I didn't hit anything on the

ATEM. Yeah, sound. I know. I know. The thing's right over there. Microphone here. It's going to come through.

But the video did not. Yeah, I was going to play that for you.

It's beautiful pictures, all the rest of this stuff. Yeah, I guess you'll just have to listen to it.

Sorry. I should have played all this stuff and tested all this beforehand. It had worked before, but I moved since then.

And so, you know, I slept since then. So stuff doesn't work anymore. Let's at least listen to it.

How's that? I don't have any other way of doing this. When I imagine my final days,

I see bubbles. I see the ocean. I see music.

Even now, as I seek help to end my life, there is still so much beauty.

You just have to be brave enough to see it. There's so much beauty.

You just have to be brave enough to see it, even as I seek help in ending my life. And if I recall correctly here, this is from Jennifer.

It looks like it's a tiny, tiny little thing here. June of 85 to October of 2022.

So what is that? 37? 37. Yeah. So much beauty.

So much beauty in the world that I'm going to end my life. This is the, again, this works for a generation that has been secularized in their indoctrination.

It's not education. They're indoctrination. There is no transcendent purpose to life.

There is no transcendent meaning to your being alive. You are a random biological product.

Nothing more. And if you are not happy in your random biological experience, then just end it.

There's no judgment. There's no future. There is nothing after this.

It's just emptiness. And of course, when you think about it, that may be why you're so unhappy in the first place.

Because there is no purpose in any suffering that you, and everybody suffers in some way or another.

But if there is no day of judgment, if there is no purpose, if you're not creating the image of God, why not?

And that, when that becomes something to where, again,

I'd have to look up the number of 200 ,000 people in Canada, there are 200 ,000 less

Canadians now, and the majority of them are not 87 years old, or even 60 with some type of terrible, horrible cancer that's ravaging their body.

That was the initial argument. And I'll admit, back then, when people would say, but this is just opening the door, even

I was sort of like, well, I'm not sure it's just opening the door. Well, it was.

It was just opening the door and making it possible to put out advertisements like this.

I mean, not only is it creepy, it's evil. It's horrifically evil. And that's what we're facing in culture around us today.

I look at all these that I have saved, and it's all the same type of stuff.

You do realize that the UCC, the United Church of Christ, is the

Walker denomination. We've talked about the Walker Seminary, Union Theological Seminary, which is a

UCC seminary, as I recall, in New York. United Church of Christ, not the

Church of Christ, not the conservative, no musical instruments, the only verse in the

Bible is Acts 2 .38. Not those guys. This is completely different. Barry Lynn was a

UCC minister. That should give you an idea of what that's all about immediately. They are such a goldmine for protestia to just gather video clip after video clip after video clip.

So, here's this guy, Aria Anna Miller, who is very clearly a very unpleasant looking man, pretending to be a woman, but behind a blue and pink and white thing with magic marker written on it,

I am perfectly and wonderfully made, and all the rest of this stuff. I'm not going to play it for you, because we just get the audio anyways.

But to listen to these people, to listen to their descriptions of God as genderless, transgender, the level of perversity, you really have to stand back and go, this is what giving them over looks like.

Pareidokin, I don't have the text up right now, but Pareidokin, I think, is the term in Romans 1.

I can't do all this stuff while live on the air. I can't be playing with settings in the system and all the rest of that stuff.

There's always so much multitasking that a person can do, and that one's beyond me by a long shot. So, when we look at God gave them over, like Romans 1 .24.

Yeah, Pareidokin, I was right. God gave them over.

Are we being given the most amazingly clear examples of this right in front of our eyes?

I mean, I look at this guy, he's got the rainbow stuff, and he's got this halter top type thing on, and he's obese.

Not pleasant to look at at all. And when you're not pleasant to look at, and then you're pretending to be something you're not, it's almost abusive to have to look at you.

And that's what this guy's doing. Now, it's funny, they almost never show the audience if there is any.

There might be a few 70 -year -old people sitting out there, maybe. I don't know.

But the level of self -deception, destructive self -deception, this is what being given over is.

And in our day, we're seeing this all around us.

It's just every day you hear these stories.

You hear about the woman in Spain, and then that's repeated in New Zealand, or in Australia, or in some northern

European country, or Canada, or whatever. It's all around us.

And the senseless violence, the overthrow of injustice, what does that do to you?

When I see an alien invader into the United States, and of course, what do people like Phil Vischer and people like that, these are immigrants, these are wayfarers, these are sojourners.

No, they are illegal invaders. Don't try to pervert the text of Scripture and call these people sojourners.

That's not the biblical definition by any stretch of the imagination. What are you even thinking?

For a long time now, but especially for four full years, the borders of the

United States were thrown open. They were thrown open. And a certain political party aided in the invasion of the

United States by foreign forces. That's called treason.

In the old world, that was punishable by hanging by the neck until death.

That's what happened then. But now, re -election is what you get when you engage in treason.

And so, they aid an entire army to come into the United States, and then when they lose the next election and the country tries to get rid of the invaders, they do everything they can to make sure the army stays.

Because they know, eventually, that invading army will guarantee their complete control and destruction of this nation.

They hate the Constitution. They hate the worldview the Constitution was based upon and assumes.

And so, they want it done with. They are traitors. They are guilty of treason. And they are being rewarded for it.

So, we see every day now, I just saw a story about a, what was it, 83 -year -old veteran,

I think from, was it Korea? I'd be about the right age, I guess. It was a veteran, an older veteran, who was pushed onto train tracks in a subway station.

I don't remember if they were killed or not. I think they were. By an illegal invader alien.

By an enemy soldier from outside the United States. That's what they are.

And I see it every day. And I don't even go looking for it. There are some people who do.

There are some people who know how to use social media and they put the type of searches in, and I would lose my mind after a week of that.

But without looking for it, I see it all the time. And you go, the injustice of this, and especially since most of the time these people, these rapists, these child rapists, and child molesters, and murderers, and they've been arrested six, seven, forty times.

Forty times. We've all seen it. How many times that guy that killed the

Ukrainian girl, poor Ukrainian girl, was just sitting there and he just brutally stabs her and kills her.

How many times had he been arrested? I've forgotten, but it's like over 20.

And part of the attack upon the West has been to destroy our entire justice system.

But here's the problem. Our justice system was based upon men being created in the image of God. That's what it's all about.

That's the foundation. That's the basis. So once that has made a point of mockery, once that has made something that is rejected, and you're rewarded for rejecting it.

If you want to get ahead in the legal profession today, that's what you've got to do.

You've got to reject any of that.

You've got to demonstrate your secular bona fides, your secular vita.

And the result is what we're seeing around us now. You see innocent people, innocent not before God, innocent before the law, being murdered by thugs and rapists, whether they're born in America or not.

A lot of them were not. And you know that they had been involved with the law over and over again before.

But our judges are corrupt. And corrupt judges are a judgment upon any nation and the judiciary.

Are there still a few Christian judges around? A few. But the vast majority, as corrupt as the day is long and proud of it.

And as long as those, especially women judges, continue to overthrow the rule of law, then those of us who understand something about justice and the foundations of it will be constantly maddened.

The division, the fracturing. This is the most fractured this nation has ever been.

It's only going to get worse unless something changes. And honestly, you might say, well, what could change?

The only thing that I could see that could possibly cause a large portion of the population of the

United States to consider their ways would be war on our own soil, famine, maybe disease, real disease this time, or nuclear explosions.

I can't think of anything else. Take away all your freedoms. Take away all your gadgets and all the plenty of food that you have and everything else.

Now, all of a sudden, you might start thinking about what's actually important. About something other than just yourself.

But as long as you've got plenty of food and all the entertainment, you're never going to think about it.

Nothing's going to change. And I remember 9 -11.

That one terror attack shut down the economy, shut down travel, was a huge hit.

Can you imagine if a single, even medium -sized city, really anywhere in the world, but especially here in the

United States, disappeared under a mushroom cloud? Can you imagine the economic fallout globally?

I mean, you're talking economic depression instantaneously. Stock market collapse overnight.

That's what happened. What if it was two? What if it was three? What if it was New York City? That might wake people up.

I mean, historically, war, famine, and disease have been what have made people turn to God and turn away from their idols.

And when it's science that is attacking you, when it's man -made viruses, when it's man -made weapons, when it's man -made fear of global warming, and stuff like that, it comes from man.

And the secular mind won't even think about asking God for help, because God's not responsible for it in the first place.

Doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make any difference. So, a lot of folks say, oh, you're just too negative.

I'm just, I'm a Scottish realist. Sorry. We Scotsmen, we tend to be very realistic about what's going on in the world around us.

And I look at it from a biblical framework, and I go, what would be big enough to make us finally stand up and say enough is enough?

We're changing our ways. It has to be awfully big. Have to be awfully big.

And one other thing that crosses my mind, since we're just sitting here, sitting in the back of the RV talking, think about it.

What if something big happened? I know one of the first thoughts across my mind is going to be this, am

I sure this has actually happened? Am I certain of this?

Because I've been fooled by AI fakes, and they're getting better and better and better.

And it's one thing for one person to put out some fake thing.

What if it was a concerted effort by all of media with the cooperation of either the government or the tech industry, the big companies, where all the

AI are confirming that it's true and all the rest of that stuff? How would any of us know? I ask myself that question all the time.

How could I even be certain? And the tendency for all of us is, well, if we contact six of our friends and five of them think it's real, we're going to go with the majority, and we're going to run with it.

And once you're panicked, you're easily controlled, easily controlled. So there's never been a time in history like this.

There never has been. I was young enough, I watched the

CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, and that's the way it is, Sunday, June 14th, 1967, la, la, la, la.

And when you saw those grainy low resolution, wasn't even 640 by 480,

I can assure you that, images from Vietnam, for example, you didn't have any question in your mind that it was real.

There might have been some situations where you wondered whether it was staged, but you assumed that what you saw was real.

Today, that's just no longer the issue. It really isn't.

So we are moving into a period of time with challenges that maybe people who are given eagle -eyed prescience might have some ideas as how we can navigate these things already.

I don't. I don't have that kind of prescience. I can see what some of the danger is going to be.

And here's the big question for us as Christians. The temptation is easy to see here.

What's it going to be? Scripture is insufficient. Scripture can't help you detect

AI. Scripture can't give you rules. So is

Christianity even really relevant any longer? Because once Scripture is put in a secondary position and subjugated to something above it, it's like putting a gag over God's mouth.

And we've seen that with all the mainline denominations. That's what they've done with Scripture. That's why they're doing what they're doing with the

LGBTQ stuff and all the rest of it. So that's going to be the big temptation.

I was talking with a dear friend today while I was driving, and we were talking about the next generation coming up.

And there are some great folks, and I keep running into them. And it's just a reminder to me,

Christ keeps building his church, and he's going to be faithful to continue doing that, even though I can't see how that is going to work in a future context.

But when you—I mentioned that when

I talk to these young guys, they'll come up to me, hey, you know, I'm going to seminary right now.

In fact, he had just told me, he had told me about a young man that he had just met—I don't think it was today, but I think it was just recently—up here in Utah.

Maybe it was today. Steve Welton was in town speaking. They wanted to try to get us together tomorrow, but I've got the debates, so it's not going to work out.

Anyways, this guy came up here to Utah. He was with the Assemblies of God and tried to minister to Mormons up here and found out the

Assemblies of God really didn't provide much in the way of meaningful training in that area. Long story short, today he's pastoring a church in a smaller town up here in Utah, and he's a

Reformed Baptist, a 1689 guy. And he had run into me—probably Jeff, I didn't specifically mention that—but had run into us, and we had given him a lot of that information, a lot of that assistance to be able to minister to Mormons up here.

And in that context, I said to my friend, I said, you know, when

I have young men come up to me and talk about going into the ministry, talk about doing missions work in Utah or something like that, the first thing

I say to them anymore is, you are going to face challenges far beyond anything

I have ever imagined, far beyond anything I've ever imagined. I've lived my life in general ease.

My first fear of the government was in 2020. And so, if I were 40 years younger than I am now, looking at apologetics ministry, church planning ministry, and the reality is, as our society secularizes, you can't separate those two.

The church planner has to be an apologist. When I was young, there was still a lot of cultural impetus toward Christianity.

The Bible is still respected. Now it's, by default, disrespected.

There's been a massive change. And so, I say to them,

I just say straight up, guys, you're going to face things that I never even dreamed of.

And honestly, the only assistance that someone of my background and age can provide is an example of having stuck firmly to the conviction of the sufficiency of Scripture.

And in other words, saying, well, look, Scripture may not tell me how to detect AI, but it tells me that there is no life without truth.

There is no beauty without truth. That truth has to be our highest priority.

And given that AI is here now, and we can't get rid of it, we're not going to be able to get rid of it, despite what that was, that one movie, it wasn't insurrection, it was where they had to get rid of the

AI by turning off all the computers, and yet they really still didn't get rid of it. AI is here.

And there's all sorts of people talking about the foundational presuppositions of truth that are necessary to train

AI on for it to have any hope of being widely functional and truth -telling.

There's all this stuff about AI right now, I don't know if you've been reading much of it, I don't claim to be an expert, but I do follow some of it, about how right now, the longer you talk to an

AI about a particular subject, the more it'll lie to you. It makes stuff up.

It's called hallucination. I actually asked Grok about it once, and he gave me a rather in -depth conversation about it, but it, honestly, it has to do with the training they've already done and the almighty dollar.

You know, you're going to like the AI that gives you the answer you want, even if that's not really true.

And ex -AI likes to talk about maximal truthfulness. You still have to be able to define truth to have maximal truthfulness.

There are presuppositions behind all of this that a Christian can address, and that's why, probably a year ago now, in my conversation with an

AI, the final result was, basically what

I said to the AI was, if there is an empty tomb in Jerusalem, if a man actually came into this world that had been prophesied hundreds of years before he came, did what was prophesied he would do, basically claim to be the creator in human flesh, the one who holds all things together, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, could we, in any way, create a meaningful understanding of the world without taking that into consideration as its foundation?

And the AI was like, of course not. We would have to start there. Well, there you go.

What if God in his mercy allowed someone, you know, the easy one here is, what if God in his mercy converted

Elon Musk? Because Elon Musk talks about maximal truthfulness, and because of his own personal experience, because he tends to bed women down fairly regularly, has numerous children by different women, and yet he recognizes that transgenderism is an insult to reality itself, because it is.

And so here's a guy, by common grace, that recognizes you can't live a life that is a lie.

We need to seek maximal truthfulness. And it's interesting, I've talked with Grok about transgenderism, and it's been very straightforward in saying it's unscientific, damaging.

Now, does that represent Elon Musk? I'm sure it has a real impact, yes.

And I remember asking it once, what if I was a member of the

NEA? What if I was the head of the local NEA chapter, and you knew

I was very thoroughly an advocate of the LGBTQ agenda?

Would you still be talking to me like this? And it insisted that it would. Can I trust that?

I don't know. Probably not, to be honest with you.

But what if someone like Musk was converted? And had the ability to apply

Christian presuppositions that there is a creator, that creator has a purpose, that creator has manifested himself in Jesus Christ, these are his laws, we can extrapolate by a general equity from these laws to whatever situation we face today.

Now, what would a truly Christian AI look like?

What would it be capable of? What would you train it on? So much of what is fed into AI today is already thoroughly secularized, and hence, foundationally corrupted.

But what if you could do that? What could something like that do, when its fundamental purpose was maximal truthfulness and the glory of Christ?

I mean, that's astonishing to think about. A lot of the walls that they're running into, and there's a lot of people talking about this,

I didn't, never thought to be talking about AI today. There are people, big names in AI, they're saying we've hit a wall.

AI is not going to cure cancer. AI is simply becoming, is reflecting back to us what it thinks we want it to say, rather than examining the real world.

And I think part of that is because of the corruption of the data and the corruption of the people programming the

AI itself. And so, personally, as a post -millennialist,

I'm like, man, God could do incredible things with God honoring AI. I mean, we could cure cancer.

They just did a, what was it, a bridge? Not a bridge. Some type of major dental thing was done completely by an

AI machine, without the help of a dentist at all, successfully. That's coming, on all sorts of levels.

But what's fearful to me is the Chinese are going to be doing that on the basis of an anti -Christian, anti -God, and therefore anti -real world worldview.

What's that AI going to be like? I mean, that's the stuff of how

Lindsay books really is. Maybe that will be the Apache helicopters that look like locusts.

But yeah, so there's, it's really easy to sit back and fear, but then it's also neat to go, man,

God could do some amazing things. But what fundamentally is needed? A change of heart, a change of the perspective of the people doing the programming and the, just the people walking down the street.

This world needs conversion. This world needs regeneration. And let me throw this out there for you just to think about.

I don't know if you can hear voices in the background. There's a party going on next door.

They got, I'm parked between a really, really nice brinkley unit like mine next door.

It's huge, 45 and a half feet long. And then there's a real nice unit next door and it's got this thing where it opens up and it's sort of like a bar type thing.

And they're cooking and the kids are running around and it's actually very nice. But I had to close this window because you'd be hearing all their conversation.

So I don't know if you can hear it or not. I'm just about to find out from Rich. Can only hear you. Well, very good. If I open the window, you could.

I've got this window over here, not this one over there. Anyway, if there,

I believe there are, you can make a strong case that the father has made the promise to the son, ask and I'll give you the nations as your inheritance.

The amillennialist says, yes, that means a few people from each nation.

And the dispensational premillennialist doesn't deal with those texts, to be perfectly honest with you.

And the postmillennialist says, yes, that's going to be fulfilled in the future. The nations will bring their glory into Jerusalem for the honor of Christ.

What would that look like? What a glorious thing that would be. Until that happens, we just simply give ourselves in service to Christ.

And if he wants to place us in a time frame where we are in a small minority, where we suffer, that's his right.

That's his right. You know, all this Christian nationalism stuff, people running around, we need to do this, we need to do that.

Unless God builds the house, they labor in vain, they try to build it. God's the one that has to change hearts and minds.

It's the spirit of God that has to make this happen. And that doesn't mean we just sit back.

We trust the spirit of God to use the proclaimed gospel. And we engage the culture.

And we radically tell them what they need to do. We tell these judges to their face that they're going to be judged by God himself for how they judge cases.

And you know what eventually they'll do? They will silence us. They will imprison, they'll start off with civil penalties, and then they'll imprison you, and eventually they'll execute you.

History shows all of that. All of that. And so, you know, when these

Christian nationalists, they'll go, hey, look, there's injustice in the world. They're doing this stuff to white folks.

Yeah? What are you going to do about it? We're going to pass a law. And who's going to enforce it?

And who's going to vote for it? I mean, wake up, guys. It's real easy to be the victim.

It's another thing to have an actual, meaningful, real solution.

Very, very different. Very, very different. So anyway, so sorry,

I should have thought to have tested that. I'm sitting here,

I'm looking at the screen, and it looks like that screen, but it has nothing on it. So I think somehow it turned the system into another monitor, and I'd have to go up, and I'd have to enter passwords, and go into settings, and display, and you know, if I played some music or something, maybe

I'd have enough time to do that. I'll do that afterwards and see if that's what it was, and just have to remember to check it in the future.

But then again, some of the things I was going to play might have been disturbing during dinner time for some of you, especially that UCC guy.

You can go look it up if you want it. You don't need to go look it up. It's not something that you might want to watch.

Anyway, all right, so just a reminder, tomorrow, 1 p .m.

Mountain Standard Time, which will be 2 p .m. Mountain Daylight Time, if you can figure out what it is. You know, just say a prayer for the debate, and hopefully it'll be useful.

And then a week, I think it is Friday now, I think, but I don't think it's the

Saturday of Conference. So it's probably a week from tonight.

We've got the Jacob Hansen debate up in Ogden, and I am preaching

Sunday at Apology of Utah. And then the next Sunday, I think,

I'm preaching a couple different places, morning and evening. I think

I'm preaching up in Ogden, and then down in Provo, maybe. Either that, or I'm going to be out in Magna, and then down in Provo.

I've got to look it up. You know, once I need to find the address, then

I'll know exactly where I'm going. And pray that tomorrow the tech doesn't get in my way, that I can focus on the debate, and it's going to be pretty straightforward as far as how all that works.

And we'll go from there. So, hey, thank you very much for watching the program today. Sorry, I just simply rambled and talked about a lot of stuff.

But some of that stuff was sort of important, I think, and might have made you think about some stuff as well.

I hope so, anyhow. And as long as it takes you closer to the