A Call for Reformation — Dave Hunt

Pardon me. It's a great privilege for me to be here and I'm losing things right now already. We probably won't get to. For the opportunity to be here and to each one of you turn to John's gospel chapter 8 and I'm already violating.

They asked me what scriptures I might turn to and I tried to give them a few but I don't think this was one of them. But Our brother sang Whom the Lord sets free is free indeed. And I couldn't help but think of this verse.

Freedom Through Continuing in Christ's Word

John 8 verse 30 as he spake these words. Many believed on him. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him notice to whom he's speaking. You think this is tremendous Revival. The Jews Who have rejected their Messiah are now coming to him.

They're coming to know who he is. They're believing on him. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him. If you continue in my word Then are you my disciples indeed and you shall know the truth and the truth Shall make you free.

It's the truth that sets us free. It's continuing in his word. It is discipleship. It is obedience. It is faithfulness and There is such a thing as the truth and the lie. There's such a thing as error and Jesus himself stood firm and You notice and and I won't get even get into the details of this Scripture, but you know it.

Well You notice that very soon He has to say to those Who believed on him? You are of your father the devil and the works of your father you will do. Why go you about to kill me and he says to them? Because I well, let's look at it from the scriptures rather than me quoting it.

He says in verse 45. Because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Think about that for a moment. They would believe anything else but the truth. It was the truth that they did not want to hear and I think that the the problem here was.

These people were willing to Believe that he was the Messiah and by the Messiah they meant one who would Deliver them from their earthly enemies who had set them free from the yoke of the Roman rule which they didn't even admit that they were.

They said we have not been in bondage to any man and They were under the Romans they were blind to their own condition and But he was talking about sin that had bound them. But they wanted to accept a Messiah who would deliver them from the Roman yoke who would give them prosperity.

Who would heal all their diseases who would give them what they wanted? But they were not willing to submit to the truth that would correct their lives and that would make them disciples of Jesus Christ.

And so he makes that incredible statement because I tell you the truth. You don't believe me. And you know Paul said have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth. Why is it that people don't want to hear the truth?

The Love of Truth and the Danger of Delusion

And you have a verse that warns us in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2. And again, I'm sorry to the television people, but they asked me what verses I Said I might quote a lot of verses. But I don't know what ones we will turn to as the Lord leads but 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, you know what it says there.

It warns of one who is going to come with all power and signs and lying wonders and deceivableness of unrighteousness in those who believe not because What they receive not the love of the truth and it says for this cause God will give them a strong delusion to believe the lie.

Because they receive not the love of the truth. We had better be lovers of truth. One of the problems is we would rather have someone flatter us then tell us the truth and We have to look into our own hearts and realize that very often we're not eager to know the truth.

We're not lovers of truth as we ought to be and so the Lord would speak to our hearts and challenge us this morning. Whom the Son sets free is free indeed. But we must be followers of Jesus Christ. We can profess him with our lips and we can be in bondage to sin and you know How prevalent this is in the Church of Jesus Christ today?

Charismatic or non-charismatic not just liberals but fundamentalists who preach the name of Jesus. But in their lives in reality, they're in bondage to sin. They have not really been set free as he wants to set us free.

I just returned from Europe. I had some free tickets and they were going to expire. I really Didn't have the time but Somehow I wanted to get away also and my wife and I spent some time three weeks Driving around in Europe.

We have lived there. We had friends to visit we had I was visiting some pastors and Christian centers and so forth kind of trying to get a bit of a pulse and Also trying to get away and be able to clear my head and just begin to think a little and pray and talk to the Lord let him talk to me and It was in the providence of God.

Remembering the Protestant Reformation

I began to read about the Reformation once again we were traveling in this area Where the Reformation took place in southern Germany and around in France and into Switzerland and and over into Austria.

This is where the Reformation took place. And I can tell you that My heart was moved. I had forgotten the Reformation. I Had not read about it for years and I began to think of what we owe to these men and women of God.

And you know most of them were Catholic priests and Monks and nuns. Who when they saw this truth They stood up for the truth against all the power of the Kings and of the Popes and They paid for it with their lives.

Think of the words of you Latimer. Once again this morning You Latimer as he and his friend Were being burned at the stake. He said be of good comfort Master Ridley and play the man. For we shall light such a candle this day in England as by God's grace will never go out.

I think that candle has almost gone out. I think if you Latimer could come back today He would be heartbroken. He would weep his eyes out If he could see what is happening in the Church of Jesus Christ today,.

I don't want to seem to be Critical and I may name a number of people. But I can tell you my heart is broken. I stood in Constance By that stone some of you may have visited it. Where John Huss was burned?

For his faith and I thought there. Of a man today Robert Schuller, he's called for a new Reformation the title of one of his books. Now he's recognized as a great evangelical leader. He's praised by Evangelical leaders.

He's praised by the church leaders today. He's highly honored. His book was called self-esteem the new Reformation. Let me just read a quote or two. If I can from beyond seduction on page 163 if you happen to have a copy and you want to look at it Robert Schuller says quote where the 16th century Reformation returned our focus to sacred scriptures as the only infallible rule for faith and practice.

The new Reformation will return our focus to the sacred right of every person to self-esteem. I'm standing there where a man has been burned. He's died at the stake. Sola scriptura was the cry only the scriptures the the Word of God.

The Word of God is our authority and We're asked to have a new Reformation based on the sacred right of every man to self-esteem. Something has gone wrong that this book. Look at the back cover. Look at the flap.

It's hailed by great Christian leaders seminary professors and so forth. And in that book Robert Schuller says, you know why we need a new Reformation. He says we need a new Reformation because the church is erred for centuries.

We have had a God-centered theology he says when what we need is a man-centered theology. He says we are not bad. We are simply badly informed about how good we are. He says it is an insult to the integrity of any human being to call him a sinner.

Jesus would never call a man a sinner. Jesus said I came not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance. Where do these ideas come from. They come right out of the pit of hell, that's right. But I want to give you some insights into how hell is making an entrance into the church.

I'm quoting Bruce Naramore, he is the nephew of Clyde Naramore. And I may step on some of your toes. We're going to talk about some things that have broken my heart. That I do not comprehend how the church can accept these things.

Bruce Naramore says quote under the influence of humanistic psychologists like Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow. Many of us Christians have begun to see our need for self-love and self-esteem. Did you hear what the man said?

He said nobody in 1900 years. Studying this book on their knees ever got that idea out of here. But the godless atheists the humanists the psychologists. They gave us this idea. And we said hey, it sounds great.

Let's go back to the Bible and see if we can't. Massage around us a few proof texts to make it seem like that's what Holy Writ has always been talking about. But it's being embraced. And I want to come back to it again as time permits and talk more about psychology.

Because it's in your assembly of God seminaries your Bible schools. It's in the best seminaries across America. It's in our Christian universities. Well, brother, you're a fanatic. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

That's what people always say to me and I say tell me about the baby. I have carefully strained the water and I can't find the baby. And if there is a baby there. It's Rosemary's baby. I'm looking here at the last words of Anakin Yon's to her infant son on the eve of her execution in Rotterdam.

In 1539 she says. This is the legacy. She leaves her little son. Where you hear of a poor. Simple cast off little flock, which is despised and rejected by the world. Join them for where you hear of the cross.

There is Christ. This is what the Reformation was about. A. W. Tozer, I can find it here somewhere. Well, you would think I would know where things are in this book. Dr. Tozer said if I see a right the cross of popular evangelicalism is not the cross of the New Testament.

The True Cross Versus Self-Esteem Christianity

It is rather a bright new ornament upon the bosom of a self-assured and carnal Christianity. The old cross slew men the new cross entertains them. The old cross condemned the new cross amuses. The old cross destroyed confidence in the flesh.

The new cross encourages it. The flesh smiling and confident preaches and sings about the cross. Before that cross it bows and toward that cross it points with carefully staged histrionics. But upon that cross it will not die.

And the reproach of the cross. It stubbornly refuses to bear. There is a reproach to the cross. But we have tried to make Christianity popular Christianity today. It's that macho quarterback who threw that 63-yard pass in the last 15 seconds to win the Super Bowl and Wow, he's a Christian man.

That's the kind of Christianity I want. It's that beautiful Actress Who's come to Jesus who's been on the 700 Club and given her testimony? That's Christianity. That's not Christianity. And Robert Shuler again, and I don't want to seem to be picking on him but Robert Robert Shuler.

Because there are a lot of others, but Robert Shuler says listen to the contrast. Think of the words of Anakin Yance to her infant son and listen to this. The classical interpretation of this teaching of Christ on bearing our cross Desperately needs Reformation.

This is the Reformation. He's calling for the cross. Christ calls us to bear will be offered as a dream an Inspiring idea that would incarnate itself in a form of ministry that helps the self-esteem.

Impoverished persons to discover their self-worth. That's a teaching that is sweeping the church self-esteem. We have to know our value. Otherwise, we couldn't believe that God would love us if we think we're nobody's.

Jesus didn't die for somebody's. He died for nobody's. He died for sinners. If I can find it quickly here because some of these people have said it so well. Charles Spurgeon said Jesus did not die for our righteousness.

He died for our sins. He did not come to save us because we were worth saving but because we were utterly worthless ruined and undone. That message has been undermined in the Church of Jesus Christ. He did not come to earth out of any reason that was in us.

But solely and only because of reasons which he took from the depths of his own divine love in due time. He died for those whom he describes not as godly, but as ungodly. Applying to them as hopeless an adjective as he could have selected.

Turn to 2nd Timothy chapter 3 verse 1 this know also that in the last days dangerous times will come for men shall be lovers of their own selves. A Fulfillment of this scripture in our day people who are saying Well, you've got to love yourself, I mean you've got assembly of God people who are teaching this.

You've got Church of God people teaching this. You've got Pentecostals charismatics fundamentalist Baptist everybody. It is a lie from the pit of hell as we already heard, but it is being embraced within the church today.

But you say I do hate myself. I'm so ugly. I just hate myself. You don't hate yourself. I do hate myself. Were you ever upset because somebody you hated was ugly. If you hated yourself, you would be glad you're ugly.

Don't give me this nonsense about hating yourself. Some psychologists said it but I'll hang in here with the Bible which says no man ever yet hated his own flesh. But nourish it and cherish it. Now you may hate what you've done you may hate what people do to you.

You may hate your looks or The way people respond to you, but that's only because you love yourself. I Was counseling with a man who said I hate myself. He's done that he's a Christian I'm convinced but he's done some things for for which perhaps he ought to go to prison.

I don't know he hints at it. He says I hate myself. I'm gonna kill myself. I say come off of it. You don't hate yourself. I hate myself. I'm gonna kill myself. Look if you hated yourself. You would be only too happy to stand in front of a judge and confess all your crimes and see yourself Embarrassed and see yourself go to prison and suffer.

You're doing everything you can to avoid that. Don't tell me you hate yourself. It is Jesus who teaches us to hate ourselves and Jesus said you must hate even your own life. And you must deny self and take up the cross and follow me.

But we have Christians doing everything they can to pretend they hate themselves when they're not willing to give up all for Jesus Christ. Dangerous times will come. Men will be lovers of their own selves.

Covetous boasters and so on. But let's jump down well. Verse 8 we can't skip verse 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses. So do these also resist the truth? Men of corrupt minds. Reprobate concerning the faith.

Contending for the Faith Against False Teaching

We have a lot of talk about faith today. Faith teachers faith churches faith ministries and it is a perversion of faith. Talking about faith as some kind of a power that you can get a hold of in order to work miracles and get what you want from God.

But the Bible talks about the faith the faith. There are people who think that if When I'm praying I can only believe that what I'm praying for will happen. That's faith. That's not faith. Faith is believing that God will make it happen.

Now we've introduced a new element now it depends upon whether it is his will or not. Now it depends upon whether I am in a relationship with him where he can bless me in this way. It depends upon his purpose and plan for my life.

But if I can make it happen just by believing it will happen. That's mind power. That's not faith. It has nothing to do with God. And in fact, this is the faith that Jude said we must earnestly contend for.

Brother, you're very contentious. Yes, because I've been told to contend for the faith I'm not going to be contentious in and of myself, but I must stand true to the Word of God. Why. Because I'm an argumentative type of person because Souls are at stake the eternal destiny of mankind is at stake.

It's the truth of God. It's the honor of God. This is what it's all about. And therefore we must earnestly contend for the faith once for all delivered to the Saints. Who are the Saints? Everyone who is in Christ Jesus Sanctified set apart to holiness to his service.

Paul said it as he as he told those Those sailors aboard ship how the angel had appeared to him. What did he say the angel of the Lord whose I am and whom I serve? No, you not you are not your own. You are bought with a price.

If you claim to be a Christian then you must accept that you have been sanctified and set apart and to you Has been committed the sacred trust of contending for the faith keeping it unperverted and undiluted and Unconfused and pure and to present this to your The people in your church if you're a pastor in your neighborhood on radio or television to this world.

Because if not Then men will be lost. They can only be saved by the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Contend for the faith. We won't take time to turn to it. First Timothy chapter 4 verse 1, you know the scripture.

It says in the last times some people will no longer believe in miracles. And the thing that we've got to contend for in the last days is for signs and wonders and get everybody to believe in great Miracles because if we only had miracles then everybody would believe.

That's not true. Nobody saw miracles like the Jews like the children of Israel they saw the Red Sea open before their very eyes and By the way, Moses did not go back take them back every Sunday evening to make the Red Sea open up.

Because God had something else in mind for them. You don't just go back and try to repeat some miracle service. But we must follow the leading of the whole of the Lord. They had man every morning. They saw the pillar of fire by night the pillar of cloud by day that literally led them step by step across the wilderness water from the rock.

Nobody saw miracles. God speaking with an audible voice from Mount Sinai. It's on fire. It's quiet. It's shaking and They heard him Give the commandments and they said we will obey and Moses hadn't even gotten down from the mount before they had broken the Commandments, that's why he smashed the tables of law.

They had already broken at Jeremiah 31 31. My covenant which they broke the day is coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel. Not according to this covenant that they broke. They broke it before he even got down from the mount miracles.

Do not change the heart and I'm not against miracles. I've seen many miracles. I believe in miracles, but this is not the secret to the salvation or to the transformation of the human heart. It says of Jesus though.

He did so many miracles yet. They believe not on him and Jesus himself said of John the Baptist. There hath not arisen of men born of women a greater prophet. And what does it tell us about John the Baptist?

He never did a miracle. It says in the last days some will depart from not signs and wonders and believing in miracles from the faith. Giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils and so forth.

Acts 6 verse 7 a great company of the priests was obedient to the faith. Obedient to the faith. Yes. The faith has moral content it demands obedience it changes lives it makes new people. It transforms us and it has a content for which we must contend.

It's not some kind of an of a mystical feeling but there is truth involved there is doctrine involved and. And and Paul is telling Timothy here. In verse 8 as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses who were Jannes and Jambres.

Well, I think most of us would agree. They were the magicians in Pharaoh's court. How did they withstand Moses? By claiming there's no such thing as miracles. No by doing miracles. If with the power of Satan they duplicated seemingly up to a point.

What God did through Moses and Aaron and Paul is telling us I believe in the last days you want to know where the opposition is going to come from. Not are the main the main problem that the church faces.

The main enemy of the church is not the skeptics and the atheists out there it's the false teaching from within that is perverting and corrupting the gospel of Jesus Christ and He says you're going there will be people who are miracle workers.

Oh, wait a minute brother. Yes, Jesus talked about it in Matthew 24 verse 24 He said there will be false prophets and false messiahs and they will do great signs and wonders. So convincing that if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived by this and in Matthew 7 Verses 22 and 23, you know these verses Jesus said many will say to me in that day Lord Lord.

Oh You can't call Jesus Lord Unless you're born of the Spirit. You can only call him Lord by the yes and really know him as Lord and really mean it but people can say anything with their with their lips and There are a lot of people who are calling Jesus Lord and they had they don't know him as Lord at all and Jesus says They will say Lord Lord.

Didn't we prophesy in your name in your name we cast out devils in your name. We did miracles. I will say I Never knew you never knew you Solemn words from the lips of the one who said I know my sheep and am known of mine.

They were never his sheep. Is it possible that there could be people on this earth today recognizes Christian leaders miracle workers. Who he has never known and who are leading people astray? The opposition is going to come From miracle workers as Janney's and Jamboree's withstood Moses.

So do these also resist the truth? Men of corrupt minds reprobate concerning the faith and notice verse 10 thou has fully known my Prosperity my success. I'm sorry. I got the wrong translation here. Thou has fully known my doctrine.

Doctrine is important. That's what the new that's what the Bible is is mostly about is sound doctrine and you jump over to the Across the page and you see that the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine.

Paul puts doctrine first. Thou has fully known my doctrine my manner of life. I lived What I preached. He could say it to the Thessalonians. You know our manner of entering in unto you was not in vain and you know how we were like a nurse Gently nursing a child and we lived irreproachably before you and Paul could say to the Thessalonians Whatsoever you have seen and heard And received in me you do that and the God of peace will be with you.

He could write to the Corinthians be followers of me as I am of Christ and Every one of you in and including myself. We ought to be able to say that we're winning people to Christ then we ought to be able to say you follow me like I follow Christ.

Watch the example of my life and This is what we ought to be living my doctrine my manner of life my purpose faith long-suffering and so forth. Persecutions afflictions. When did you last hear that preached on some of our popular Christian television shows?

Faith, Obedience, and the Cost of Discipleship

Go to. Keep your finger there, but just quickly go to Hebrews 11 the great faith chapter. Verse 8 by faith Abraham when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance.

Obeyed. Faith is about obedience. He obeyed. He went out not knowing whether he went jumped down to verse 24 by faith. Moses when he was come to years refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter.

Choosing rather to suffer prosperity with a pea. I'm sorry that just kind of intrudes in there choosing choosing rather to suffer Affliction, I've traveled a bit behind the Iron Curtain. And I can tell you some of those Christians back there they wonder what's wrong with Christianity in America.

They wonder how come it's so popular. The Bible says all they who will live godly in Christ. Jesus shall suffer persecution. It doesn't say all they who will live godly in Christ. Jesus shall enjoy prosperity.

It doesn't teach that in the Bible that's a false teaching and He chose to suffer Affliction With the people of God than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season esteeming the reproach of Christ. There is a reproach to Christ.

I think it was Oswald Chambers Who said we have to be careful that in our zeal to get people to accept the gospel. We don't manufacture a gospel that is acceptable to people. That's what's happening today.

Or we're going to sneak them into heaven and one day they'll wake up in heaven and they'll wonder how they got there. Never repented never surrendered their lives were never crucified with Christ. But they believed and you know, that's one of the my concerns about television.

That's why I'm grateful that brother Swagger doesn't have Fifty five minutes of some kind of a news format and and this and that and so forth and then in the last minute we Try to lead people to Jesus as the theme sounds in the background.

And we know that we're about to go off and we leave people quickly in a prayer to a Jesus. They don't even know who he is. All they have seen demonstrated is he will heal them. He will make them prosperous.

He will bless them. He will give them what they want and they don't have a clue as to who this Jesus is and I think we're making false converts all over America esteeming the reproach of Christ. Greater riches than the treasures of Egypt.

He could have had the success and the wealth of Egypt and he turned his back on for the reproach of Christ. He had a respect unto the recompense of the reward. There's another reward that these people don't talk about.

It's a reward in the coming day notice some other verses here verse 32. What shall I more say? The time would fail me to tell of Gideon of Barak of Samson of Jephthah of David also Samuel the prophets Who through faith subdued kingdoms wrought righteousness obtained promises stopped the mouths of lions quenched the violence of fire.

Escaped the edge of the sword out of weakness were made strong wax valiant in fight. Turned to flight the armies of the aliens women received their dead raised to life again. You say preach it brother.

That's victory. That's what we want to hear. Yeah, that's tremendous stuff. Yeah, but keep reading. Well now brother be careful and don't get into any negative stuff. We must always make a positive confession of the Word of God.

Now, how are you going to make a positive confession of Armageddon? How are you going to make a positive confession of Jesus prophecy. He says the day is coming. You see this temple. There won't be one stone left upon another.

Jerusalem will be encompassed by the armies. You're going to make a positive confession out of that. Robert Shuler has brought out a Bible and it has all the positive Verses highlighted. What are we going to do cut out the rest of it?

I don't like those words positive and negative. They make me angry. You won't find them in the Bible. I was on being interviewed on a Radio talk show and the owner of the station who was interviewing me was very much into this sort of thing and He said well brother, you know, you're down on positive mental attitude.

Yeah, I wouldn't give you two cents for a positive mental attitude. He says you're you're down on a positive mental attitude and I Wouldn't give you two cents for a negative mental attitude either because it's not a mental attitude that does it.

It's whether I'm in his hands. That's what counts and he said well, I Consider the Bible to be the foremost positive mental attitude book in the world. What are you gonna say about that? And I said, I don't want to embarrass you on radio.

He said go ahead. Well, I said you get out your Strong's exhaustive concordance and look it up. You won't find the word positive. You won't find the word mental and you won't find the word attitude. Now doesn't it seem a bit strange that the foremost positive mental attitude book in the world doesn't even know this concept.

Where did it come from? It came from out there and we have accepted it. The issue is not is it positive or negative? I mean that that's that's great. If you're into electricity or magnetism Or or chemical bonding it has nothing to do with the issue the issue is is it true or is it false?

Is it is it biblical or is it not biblical and I'm not trying to split hairs That but a confusion that perverts the truth comes into the church. And so people say yes, the Bible does to teach a positive mental attitude Philippians 4 8.

For example, whatsoever. Things are true. What's everything's are lovely. What's everything honest and pure and so forth and so on. You can have a very positive Attitude towards free sex and you are not pure and you can be so Positive as a judge that you wouldn't condemn a criminal even though all the evidence is stacked against him and you are not just do.

Not equate positive with pure and holy and just and true. It is a perversion. But these are popular phrases That we have embraced without thinking Millions of Christians and they become smoke screens that obscure the real issue.

Well, is this positive stuff that we're going to read here? Others were tortured. Not accepting deliverance that they might obtain a better resurrection and others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings.

Yay, moreover bonds and imprisonment. They were stoned. They were sawn asunder were tempted were slain with a sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins being destitute afflicted tormented of whom the world was not worthy.

They wandered in deserts and in mountains and in dens and caves of the earth. They didn't know how to make a positive confession. They should have confessed prosperity and so forth. That's not true. These all having obtained a good report through faith Received not the promise.

These are the heroes and heroines of the faith. And they were tortured they suffered they were persecuted they died for their faith. God having provided some better thing for us that they without us should not be made perfect.

What is that better thing? Well verse 15 and truly if they had been mindful of that country from once they came out. They might have had opportunity to have returned but now they desire a better country that is and heavenly.

Wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he hath prepared for them a city. That's our hope. Our hope is in heaven. The hope of the church is the return of Jesus Christ and you know that that is being maligned now.

The Heavenly Hope and the Return of Christ

It's no longer pre mid post. But it's rapture or no rapture and the pendulum is swinging very heavily and the fastest growing movement in the church today is a denial Of the rapture of Jesus Christ that Jesus will rapture us out of here.

He's going to come back to reign over the kingdom that we've established in his name after we have taken over this world. Well, you don't have to be too bright to realize that if we really are a heavenly people and what does the Bible say?

Philippians chapter 3 our citizenship our conversation our way of life is in heaven from whence also we wait for our Savior the Lord Jesus who will change these vile bodies. This is our hope. Jesus said in my father's house are many mansions.

He said don't lay up for yourselves treasures upon this earth, but treasures in heaven. He continually pointed people to heaven. Jesus said I'm going away. Where was he going? I wasn't some secret hideout in the Himalayas or or something like this like the New Ages would try to tell you he was going to heaven.

I'm going to my father's house. He said where there are many mansions I'm going to prepare a place for you. And if I go away, I will come again to receive you unto myself. This is the hope of the church.

Why what? Paul when he wrote to the Thessalonians He's demonstrating that they become Christians and he gives a number of reasons why they become Christians. He says your work of your work of faith and labor of love and how you turn to God from idols to serve the living In the true God and then what does he say and to wait for his son from heaven?

That's the hope of the church and that was one of the marks that they were real Christians. Now if you believe in a post-millennial Return of Jesus you can hardly be waiting and expecting him to return now.