May 11, 2021 Show with Andreas Köstenberger on “Signs of the Messiah: An Introduction to John’s Gospel”

The Gospel of John and Signs of the Messiah

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I'm always thrilled to have my brilliant guest today return to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio for another interview. His name is Andreas Kostenberger, a leading evangelical scholar and prolific writer, author, editor, or translator of close to 50 books, including God, Marriage, and Family, A Theology of John's Gospel, Excellence, and the Commentary on 1st and 2nd Timothy and Titus and the Biblical Theology for Christian Proclamation series.

He is the editor of the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, visiting fellow at St. Edmund's College in Cambridge, England, research professor of New Testament and Biblical theology, and director of the Center for Biblical Studies at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and founder of Biblical Foundations.

Today we are going to be addressing his latest book, published by Lexham Press, Signs of the Messiah, An Introduction to John's Gospel, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Andreas Kostenberger.

Hey Chris, I'm thrilled to join you.

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So, why don't you first of all tell our listeners what you are teaching here at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. I know you're on sabbatical right now and writing, but tell us about Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Yes, a class on ancient Jewish and Greek studies.

And tell us about this organization you have founded known as Biblical Foundations.

Yes, so my wife and I have been married for over 30 years. And my original book, you mentioned in the introduction, and ever since marriage and the family for life, part of our lives. And if you know, we don't have to make our own rules or...

Well, if anybody wants to find out more about these two organizations, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary to begin with, that website is mbts .edu, mbts .edu. And Biblical Foundations can be found at biblicalfoundations .org, biblicalfoundations .org.

Obviously, from what you have just told us, the Gospel of John is something that is very near and dear to your heart. Obviously, it should be to every Christian, but it has so captivated you that you have devoted much of your study as a theologian and occupied much of your mind, heart, and time as a teacher and a professor to focus on this gospel.

What about this gospel so intrigued you and captured your heart that you have chosen to really focus on this gospel?

Theology, it's high view of Jesus as a child not to drown. I think, you know, I couldn't have freed Jesus' inner circle, the one who that we know...

Amen. And in fact, as a Reformed Baptist, theologically Calvinistic, if you will, I know that the Gospel of John, even as a tract, if you were to just use the information, the God-breathed information that John wrote in that gospel, even separately from the rest of the Scriptures, it makes a powerful tract to lead those to see and, by the guiding of the Holy Spirit, understand the doctrines of sovereign grace.

Wouldn't you agree?

Oh, absolutely. I think, you know, it's not a coincidence that John's gospel was probably the number one source, theological source, for the early church councils. And I think by that he meant that John had just, that he eternally pre-existed, as I already mentioned.

Now, who would you say your primary intended audience is for, or readership, is for signs of the Messiah? I think it may be somewhat misleading when people read the subtitle, An Introduction to John's Gospel.

The only reason I say that is because this book will have great benefit, not only for a new believer, but even for a seasoned Christians that may have overlooked some of the insights that you have in this gospel, even if they've been saved for many decades.

Years of my, to use simple language, but it still conveys some profound theological truths in it. Originally, some of those were people, either maybe pastors, who were planning to preach on John's gospel, someone maybe who, in fact, was the Messiah.

Now, you've have this book broken up into three parts, so if you could explain part one, which has under that heading Authorship, Prologue, and Cana Cycle.

Yes, so, you know, I spent quite a bit of time on establishing who the author was, part because, and also because, today, there are many scholars who deny it. That may be, but if you've, there are many today who claim that the book was written by maybe a group of later Johannan community after John had long died, and so they, in that case, would have received the gospels.

Things might change. The so-called Beloved Disciple, as he calls it, Jesus' love, none other than the Apostle John. In the gospel period, again and again, at all the strategic meetings, in the upper room, at the high priest's courtyard, at the cross, at the empty tomb.

When you look at the historical line with the apostles, that gives us all the major themes in the gospel.

We already have a listener question. Arnie in Perry County, Pennsylvania. And Arnie asks,. In Isaiah chapter 7, 14, we read, Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel.

When I have had conversations with my Jewish friends and neighbors and acquaintances, they will typically tell me, if they know anything about Hebrew, that the word for virgin in this verse actually can mean a young girl.

How do you overcome that objection from a Jewish person?

He did a great deal as a baby. And when it comes to, in math, the meaning of that word in the Greek, the major doctrine of Christianity, and is affirmed not only by Matthew, but also by Luke. Yes, they do what you might call double fulfillment of prophet Isaiah's day, of a young woman, even though she was a bat, but of an actual virgin.

And I think it's clear that Matthew explains that in Matthew chapter 1, verses 18.

Now, perhaps you could correct me if I took a wrong approach. When I personally had this brought up to me by a very good friend of mine for many years, who's an Orthodox Jew. When he went back to his rabbi after I had, you know, routinely been evangelizing him with certain key texts and so on.

He came back to me and said the very thing that the listener, Arnie in Perry County, said, Oh, my rabbi says that that text just means a young girl. And I actually stopped him in his tracks. And he saw the validity of my point when I said, how is that a sign?

If it says, therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign. I said, most mothers, when they were giving birth to their first children, that is, were young girls back then. So that could not be a sign when you have multiple, countless thousands of women giving birth.

Yeah, absolutely.

There's obviously a very would be one. I wrote a Matthew and birth narrative. So we have a lot more details in the 14 because of the mention of the word sign. And of course, John, right? My whole book revolves around John.

In many ways, there's an online journal, probably could be easy enough to check out, you know, by my first and last name. And then simply looking it up under John's gospel and Isaiah's signs theology.

So in signs that.

And so let's start to stick our toes in the water, as it were. Yeah. When it comes to the Cana wedding and the temple clearing as two primary texts that contain signs of Christ's messiahship.

Yeah. So John's gospel is the Cana cycle because the first and the last event in those three chapters organized the Cana numbers, the Cana wedding in chapter two, verses one to the forming Cana. And then he heals the son of a royal.

And then in between, he features, I believe not everyone would agree with this, but after three, verse two, and of course, Nicodemus is the temple will be destroyed. And after three days, but I love it about John.

And I want to pick up on the temple clearing when we come back from our first break. If anybody has a question for Dr. Kastenberger, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

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If you live outside the USA. Before we go to any more listener questions, I want to revisit the cleansing of the temple, or the clearing of the temple. Now, I know that it can't be technically described as a miracle what Jesus did, but it is quite astounding that this one man, there's nothing in the scriptures that say that Jesus Christ looked like the incredible Hulk, but this one man with a whip drove out the entire temple of money changers.

That is quite an astounding feat. Is it? Why do you think it is that these men did not even just decide to overpower him? What was it that made them scatter like children?

Yeah, we see that repeatedly. You know, there was a press, you know, you think of the, it really transcends, I think that's part of the sign. You show us for doing these things, they miss the sign, another sign, Jesus goes on to explain the significance of the temple cleansing.

And so I believe that the occasion of Jesus.

Now, I have heard a very well-known Christian who I actually view as a modern day hero, I'm not going to say his name because you may be in disagreement with him. Maybe you won't be, I don't know. But in spite of me viewing him as a hero, I really paused and wondered if he was correct on this.

He said that Jesus, when he chased the money changers out of the temple, never actually struck anyone with the whip. It was his cracking of the whip or waving of it and his commanding voice that was frightening enough to them to make them leave.

And that actually whipping any of them would have been outside of his character. Is that a correct assessment, in your opinion?

Well, you know, while in the other three cultures, a synoptic God, there's quite a few scholars. Something in him was just deeply John. He simply says in verse 15 of chapter two, and making a whip of context, I think that refers to sitting there.

He didn't display authority. In other words, he did not want the house of God to be correct.

Now, having said what you've just said, there being a mystery behind whether he actually made physical contact with the whip and the money changers, you're still open to the idea that he did actually whip some human beings.

Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess, you know, it's actually saying authority that they remember there was written zeal. It's not a miracle in a narrow sense, like we talked about, but it is a striking display of, I believe, a Johannine side.

We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. And she asks, could the temple cleansing passage be used to rebuke those that we know who are members of churches that have carnivals and other such things on church property in order to raise money?

Well, of modern day, it's really meant to be thinking about often the conflict. I'm not necessarily talking about, you know, maybe those study tools, you know, but...

My pastor just sighed with relief hearing you say that.

So partly it comes down to, you know, motive of God and money.

Especially to lie about the prophets, since we know what happened. We know what happened when another real estate sales lied about to the church. Ananias and Sapphira, for those of you who are wondering.

Right, yes. It's a great question. I like the contemporary relevance, you know, a message to our people, you know.

I was raised Roman Catholic before becoming a born again Christian. And even as a Catholic teenager, when I would go to the carnivals that my church conducted, I always, even then, scratched my head about blatant, overt gambling going on, you know, at these bazaars, which is actually a good phrase for them.

Now, obviously, I'm sure you would agree, there is something different about the Old Covenant Temple than a modern day church building and parking lot. But at the same time, I've heard very convincing arguments by guests here, that the church should not be targeting the unbelieving world around them to raise money.

Even though we may accept gifts during the worship service from unbelievers who are present. We don't ask every person who puts money in a collection plate, are you a believer? But at the same time, to target the community in that way is somewhat unbiblical.

There's no biblical evidence that the church did that.

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think the church has ultimately got the actual building. But I walk, you know, there, you know, when you look at the grieving.

We have Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina. Greetings, brothers. I know when I study God's holy scriptures, sometimes I see something that I hadn't noticed before in several readings. In writing this, did you notice any new insights that you hadn't seen in your studies before?

So when you were writing the book we are discussing, did anything go, wow, I didn't notice that. Did anything happen like that?

Well, you know, it's really interesting. Should not perish. And it occurred to me that Nicodemus would actually not have agreed that God loves the Jewish people, but he hates the Gentiles.

And yeah, and the world is actually synonymous with the word Gentiles.

Yeah. So for him, that would have been offensive and deeply counter-cultural. Came to realize that, and I needed to kind of, you can read it for that and see something that you missed, you know.

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Also hear from Tommy Nelson, Charles Stolfus and Rodney Brown confronting the lies being impressed upon the culture today threatening even to divide the church and answering with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Wokeness and the Gospel Conference coming to Denton Bible Church June 11th and 12th. Register online at wokenessandgospel .org.

Lindbrook Baptist Church on 225 Earl Avenue in Lindbrook, Long Island is teaching God's timeless truths in the 21st century. Our church is far more than a Sunday worship service.