The Radical Kingdom - Part 2 — Art Katz

Rule, Dominion, and the Image of God

I want to say something this morning about rule. And indeed the word rule has its appearance early in scripture, even in the dominion mandate that I referred to previously in Genesis 1, verse 26 of that first chapter we read, then God said, Let us make man in our image according to our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the sky, over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

And God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him male and female, he created them and God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over everything that moves on the earth.

The difference between dominion and domination is that dominion is intended for those who are made in his image and who are conscious of their creator and of the mandate that is given and bring his law and his rule into the earth in the spirit of the king himself.

Man honors God by fulfilling this dominion mandate and this honors him by refusing it. I wrote a quote here into my Bible, the idea that men are responsible as faithful servants to bring the whole world under the rule of God's law is repulsive to the vast majority of his professing Christians.

And yet from the very first, God brings to us the concept of rule, of dominion, and of mandate. Another writer says that sin is the attempt of self-proclaiming autonomous men to exercise humanistic dominion apart from God or God's law order.

No longer exercising a power under God or to his glory, but a perverse desire to be as God. That's domination as distinguished from dominion. The two things that go together is he made man in his image and man who is conscious of that creation and the responsibility that is implied in it is called to rule over the earth that God has made.

Biblical Promises of the Saints’ Dominion

There are a number of scriptures that speak of rule and I just want to cite a few without the time to make any kind of comment about them. You remember in 1 Corinthians, the sixth chapter, Paul talks to those who are ready to bring a matter of the body to the secular courts.

In verse 2 of chapter 6,. Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? The word judge and rule is virtually synonymous. And the judges in the ancient Hebrew economy were rulers. Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world and if this world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Know you not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life. 1 Corinthians 15, verse 24,. Then cometh the end when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father, when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

For he must reign till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death, for he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is accepted, which did put all things under him.

And when all things shall be subdued unto him, the same word as in the dominion passage, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him that God may be all in all. He must reign until.

Needs to be seen in connection with 1 Corinthians 9, 7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom to order it and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever.

So from the advent of the Son something has been brought into being that has no end and is continually being increased until all authority and rule shall be under his feet. And I leave it to you to understand what the word feet represents in terms of the symbolism of the body of Christ.

That the authority that is coming under the rule of the Son till all kingdoms shall come under his rule and shall be given to the Father comes first under the feet which is to say the body. That it's a continuous and a progressive activity that it began with the advent of the Messiah for of the increase of his government and his peace there shall be no end from henceforth even forever.

These scriptures speak to me of a continuum, an unbroken rule and reign of the mandate of dominion through the church that is continuous until the appearing of the Lord when he shall himself complete it in his coming.

Revelation 2 .26. And he that overcometh and keepeth my words unto the end to him will I give power over the nations and he shall rule them with a rod of iron as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers even as I received of my Father and I will give him the morning star and he that hath an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

In the book of Daniel in the seventh chapter the vision that came to Daniel that was so great that when he proclaimed it to Nebuchadnezzar an earthly, secular and Babylonian king the king came down on his face before the splendor of the vision that was given to this Hebrew saint.

In chapter 7 verse 13 I saw in the night visions and behold one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven and came to the ancient of days and they brought him near before him and it was given him dominion and glory and the kingdom.

It was given him implies that something was in formation before his coming. The church has in modern times I think had a rather different concept that the king when he comes brings the kingdom. We have no obligation toward it.

It comes in one fell swoop automatically with his coming but what seems to be implied here in the other scriptures that I've read is that something is coming progressively under the feet of him which is his body that brings increasingly all rule and authority unto him that when he comes he doesn't come simply to bring the kingdom he comes to complete it and to occupy that which was prepared for him that the kingdom is an ongoing activity in which we need to be engaged now.

There was given him dominion and glory and the kingdom. Paul says in Thessalonians that we should walk worthy of the manner to which we were called of to the kingdom and the glory. That all people, nations and languages should serve him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Verse 18. But the saints of the Most High shall take the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever even for ever and ever.

Verse 22. Until the ancient of days came and judgment was given to the saints of the Most High and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. Verse 27. And the kingdom and dominion these are synonyms and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom and all dominions shall serve and obey him hitherto is the end of the matter.

These are just some scriptures that pertain and periodically express themselves through both Old and New Testament scriptures to suggest the rule and reign of God through saints in the earth. And I think that our whole concept of reigning and of government needs to be understood in the kingdom way because that word like every word has suffered atrociously in our generation.

Government as the Church’s Prophetic Witness

When we think today of government and administration we think of paper shufflers we think of bureaucrats we think of men occupying office. It's a kind of a drudge a wearisome and a monotonous activity but we have not understood that rule and reign in God is a far different thing from the way that it has been secularly handled.

The office of government is an educational office it has to do with raising the whole quality of life. It is inspirational it's not just merely administrative it teaches men how to live. It brings the moral dimension of God into the practical realities of the life and the conduct of men.

And that's why I said yesterday that righteousness and truth have no point of entry into the earth except through the church as the channel of the holiness of God except that the church provide the contrast there's no way for the world even to see the issues of truth.

And that's why we're told let your light so shine that they may see your good works and glorify your father which is in heaven. And though our father and our king is in heaven the works that we do by the enablement of his life glorifies him for it reveals his light his righteousness and his truth.

Another statement. Only a biblical people know the effect upon society and nature itself by the repentance, prayer and obedience of God's people. And this concept is wholly alien and lost to modern and materialistic men.

Only the people of God know the efficacy of repentance and prayer as it affects practical things in the life of men. Therefore the scriptures address to us when my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face suggest a kind of prayer that is more than just polite or religious.

It's a humbling prayer a prayer accompanied by fasting by the stretching of ourselves out before God. When my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face I will hear from heaven and forgive them first their iniquity and heal their land.

Only we know that we know those verses and we know the God who gave those verses and we know the God who will honor that kind of prayer. We know that wholesome living and authentic faith has redeeming effect upon man's environment.

All you need to do is travel a bit in the world as is my privilege and come out at certain airports or certain countries or certain capitals or cross certain borders and the atmosphere distinctly changes in one fell swoop.

You can feel the actual oppression in the air. You can feel the unrighteousness and the unholiness and the perversity which prevails in certain lands that know not God and do not have a vital presence in their nation as the church praying and bringing the radiance and the presence and the peace of God into their countries.

We're spoiled because we enjoy that here far more than we know. But we ourselves have not sufficiently recognized that the righteousness of the saints their conduct before God the presence that they constitute in the earth and in nations has a redeeming effect even upon their own society.

Prayer, Judgment, and the Moral Condition of Nations

Just as a local illustration when we came to Cass Lake and in the early years there was as I mentioned yesterday a racial tension between the Indians and the white kids in the school. There was a pot continually on the stove seething, threatening to boil over.

Some of our own kids who then were in their early high school years elected to conduct a daily prayer meeting at the Cass Lake High School. They began in the room I think the room was taken from them and they went down to the boiler room if I'm not mistaken.

But from the day of that prayer the atmosphere of the school changed and there has never been from that day to this a racial eruption. It's a little minute or minuscule illustration of the efficacy of prayer and the presence of God's people in affecting the secular situation in which men live their lives.

When I went to Kenya in my first trip to Africa about a year ago it was only a few weeks after a coup a military attempt to take rule had taken place. It was a one day coup. It was violent and it was bloody.

There were a number of rapes and pillaging and lootings and the body of Christ in Kenya was stung because they had looked upon their nation as being the most politically stable of all of the African nations.

There had never been an incident of that kind previously as has been the history of almost every African nation in the continual upset of rule and coups and takeovers of power by force. From that day to this the saints elected to have a daily noon prayer meeting in Nairobi.

And from that day to this a political peace has prevailed in that nation. We need to have our eyes opened to the realities that come by our prayer in concert as it affects the conduct of nations and the atmosphere in which people have their life and their being wholesome living and authentic faith have a redeeming effect upon man's environment whereas wickedness and unbelief have an opposite and ill effect upon it.

Man's cumulative sins trigger earth's convulsions. And if we don't recognize that earthquakes social upheavals violent revolutions nature itself groaning and vomiting up the things that are unholy and unrighteous we do not see as God himself sees.

We ourselves have allowed our minds to be conditioned by Time Magazine and Newsweek. And we see and we interpret national and international events in the same secular way as the world itself does and do not see the hand of God as a judgment in the earth.

When I spoke in Japan and this was with our premeditation before a conference of ministers I said to them that the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not the result of some arbitrary and capricious decision of American political and military officers.

It was a judgment of God upon a nation that has historically rejected God and the truth of God. A nation that is eclectic which is to say that draws from many different religions to fashion for itself an expedient kind of religion that serves the purposes of the state and has no desire to know God.

In truth it's no accident that the word sin is not even to be found in the Japanese language. And that I said that the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki the cities that were engulfed in flames were a preliminary judgment and a mercy of God.

Because God's judgments are not punitive they are redemptive to save that nation from an eternal fire that will not be quenched. I can't begin now just in the mere rehearsing of this to describe to you the enormous unction that was upon those words when I spoke them to an unsuspecting Japanese audience of ministers.

But one minister you know the Japanese propensity for saving face leaped up out of a seat the tears were streaming down his face and he cried out God, he said, make me a prophet unto my own nation when the fact of the matter is that the church itself ought to be that prophetic presence in the nation to interpret for the nations the meaning not only of their histories but of their present circumstances.

Why their presidents are assassinated. Why their societies come to a boil. Why there's racial turbulence. Why there's calamities of nature and freakish storms and other kinds of devastations. We need to see as God sees.

And we need to interpret the meaning of the events of our society to the nations itself that they might repent and acknowledge God who is already judging them. The reason that we have failed to exercise this prophetic office as the church is that we do not ourselves recognize God as judge even in our own lives personally.

Therefore we suffer our accidents and our broken legs and our various other kinds of things and dismiss them as happenstance. Because we do not see by the spirit because we are not in the environment and apostolic atmosphere in which God intends for us to live our lives.

And because we've allowed the secular world so much to shape and to mold our thoughts. Man's cumulative sins trigger earth's convulsions especially in those lands that have the knowledge of the righteousness of God and refuse to walk in it.

Righteousness Reigning Through the Church

The world's present turmoil is an indictment against a self-indulgent and prayerless church. And if righteousness is to reign it can happen now if God's people will function in the dimension of spiritual life and authority available to them only together in Christ.

You guys taking notes? These are remarkable statements and they need to be pondered again and again. I want to repeat this last one. If righteousness is to reign if we are to fulfill the dominion mandate if we are to rule and reign if we are to bring all things under the authority of Christ and under his feet.

If righteousness is to reign it can happen now if God's people will function in the dimension of spiritual life and authority available to them only together in Christ. Those last words are the key together in Christ.

I'm going to have something to say about that in just a moment. And we said something about it already earlier today. This is more than just being alongside each other in pews. This is together in a quality of integration and relationship of which the world knows nothing.

It's being together in truth and in love. And if we will function together in that spiritual authority that comes to us only corporately together in Christ righteousness can reign now. It can affect our high schools.

It can affect the atmosphere of our communities. It can affect the decisions of our governments. It can affect the quality of relationships between nations. It can affect race relations that will either come to a boil and bring another kind of holocaust or a remarkable peace and reconciliation.

We need to come alive to the enormous task that is before us as the church, functioning in spiritual authority and power together in Christ. The kingdom of God is not waiting for the extermination of all evil to begin.

It is the very functioning of the kingdom which uproots the evil of the increase of his government and of his peace. There shall be no end henceforth even forever. The church is the necessary point of reference and standard in the earth.

Only the church has a prophetic history. Only the church knows the theocracy of God. Only the church knows the consequence for Israel in disobedience and apostasy. Only the church knows that man is culpable and responsible and is in danger of imminent judgment.

Only we know because we have such a history. Only we know because we know what God has done with regard to Israel when they have refused to walk in his statutes and in his ordinances and in his law. But we're not living as if we know and we're not communicating that knowledge to the secular and the unbelieving around us.

And it says of the history of Israel which is written in the blood and the sweat and tears of that people that these things are written for our admission upon whom the ends of the age have come. We need to have a totally different view of the scripture another attitude toward the quote old testament as something more than just some quaint reference to ancient history that has no valid application.

Today we need to see the unbroken continuum of God's ages. Old intent through men in the earth from the beginning our covenant mandate is to the world. You are the light of the world. You are the salt of the earth.

The Authority and Position of the Cross

And now I come to the substance of this morning's talk. What is the basis for our rule? By what authority do we rule? Where is kingdom rule established? There's a ruling concept thy kingdom come in earth as in heaven.

There's a ruling motive the glory of God and his kingdom. There's a ruling mandate in dominion and let them rule. There's a ruling opposition the principalities and powers and the rulers of darkness. There's a ruling authority and the power.

All authority is given unto me in heaven and earth. Go ye therefore behold I have given you jurisdiction over all the power of the enemy and you shall receive power when the Holy Ghost comes upon you.

What I want to speak about now is what is the position by which we move in the authority and the power of God. There can never be power except that we are in the right position in God. God will only put his power in those who are in the authoritative position that is the position that is incorporated into his death burial, resurrection, ascension and reign in their present experience.

What I'm doing now is raising the cross and I want to speak about the centrality of the cross in terms of the kingdom. The cross has established for us a position and the only place that God will honor us with his power and authority is in that position with regard to the cross.

To reject the cross by a bland dismissal or only to acknowledge it theoretically but not actually is to lose the only place available to us by which the power of God and the authority of God can be expressed as rule and reign in the earth.

The jurisdiction of Christ through his cross has to function through the members of his body in concert. This is not just an individual matter. See this whole individualistic thing which is so in keeping with the spirit of the world has blinded us to the genius of the corporateness of God.

I think a good figure for this is Israel passing through the Jordan together as a people to enter the land, to possess the land on the wilderness side they were yet a mob but when they came up through the Jordan and onto the other side they became a disciplined army prepared for the taking of the land.

They went as it were through a corporate death together entirely as a people. Jordan means descent into death and they came up on the kingdom side prepared for the taking of the land in the authority that is not given to a rebel or to a mob but to an army that acts in concert and in union under authority without whimpering, without complaining, without murmuring without the expressing of its individualistic tendencies or its rebellion or its criticism.

Every man it says in his place giving one shout in the appointed moment of God that brought the walls down. That is a picture of the mode by which we ought to possess the land at the end of the age. One shout many voices constituting one in the moment of God not when we feel like it or don't feel like it as is our present tendency.

Are you coming to the meeting? Well I'll see if I feel like it. But a people under authority because the things that are contrary to the authority of God namely our individualism our rebellion, our self-will the variableness of our feelings have been crucified and buried in the descent unto Jordan.

And I'll tell you that if we're just speaking posy if this is just a little sleight of hand a little biblical flourish and these things have no actual meaning or possibility of attainment we have no position, no power, no authority, no rule.

I'm staking all on the cross. I believe that God has made available to us a position that can actually be appropriated that there's a death that's available to us in experience and not just hypothetically and theoretically.

The Cross as the Source of Spiritual Power

And it's the key to the dunamis of God that is given to those who have passed through that death. Because it says in Exodus 30 about the holy anointing oil that it shall not be poured upon flesh. This oil which is the authority of God and the unction of God for the performing of kingdom things and the taking of the land and the establishing his rule shall not be poured on flesh.

It's a holy unction and upon man's flesh it shall not be poured. The only place that I know for flesh where it can be safely consigned is to the cross of Christ Jesus. And it's been my observation as I approach my 20th year as a believer and myself the product of an evangelical and charismatic generation that if there's been any subject that has suffered a complete what's the word? dismissal and indifference it's the cross of Christ Jesus.

I'm even stung by God to recognize that in my own life there has been a progressive deterioration and a moving away from the reality of the cross. In my earlier years in my simplicity and naivety I believed the cross, I believed the reality.

I believed Romans 6, I believed burial unto death. But as I went on somehow it began to dissipate. I didn't want to be so bold as to proclaim that lest anyone say, what are you the evidence? To say that to see you is to see Christ and to hear you is to hear Christ.

That you can say with Paul for me to live as Christ because I'm crucified with him. Yet I live yet not I. Every pressure religiously and secularly is to contradict that testimony and to move us away from our position in the cross.

Do you know why? Because the devil recognizes better than we. It is the only position that he needs fear. He is not afraid of our unaided humanity. He's not afraid of our programs of evangelism. He's not afraid of our devices, our religious rhetoric.

He's only afraid of the cross because the cross has permanently and eternally robbed him of the basis for his authority and power and nothing else. Only thus can we become the instruments of that authority over the power of the enemy in every sphere where his victory that is the victory of Jesus is not yet recognized by putting out of action the works of the devil.

This is wrought out progressively only on the ground of Calvary because on that ground, that is the Lamb slain the ground of the evil power where judicially and morally was broken. I'm saying these things for the first time.

I have never before said them. I have never before understood them and I can't even say now that I understand them as I ought. But here's what I want to say to you with all that's in me we need to understand what is the constituent moral makeup of the cosmos.

We need to understand the largest sense in which the whole spiritual drama is being enacted. But we have been fixated as Christians evangelically and fundamentally at the narrowest level of the cross only in terms of atonement.

And I'm not in any way decrying that or none of us would be here. But we have not seen the issue of the cross in the things that go beyond the mere issue of atonement. The issue of atonement has to do with man in time.

But there are issues that pertain to the cross that go beyond time and into eternity and even into the heavenlies that fulfill a moral requirement of God. For God is a moral creator and a moral basis is the foundation for the whole creation and the whole conflict between light and darkness and the kingdom of our God and the kingdom of the devil is a moral conflict between two kinds of kingdoms opposed on moral grounds.

Calvary’s Moral Victory Over the Powers

What happened at Calvary was a defeat for the enemy on his moral and judicial ground by another kind of morality that completely contradicted his own. The morality of unrighteousness is predicated upon force upon violence upon fear upon intimidation upon threat upon manipulation upon self-interest upon vanity upon ego.

But another came as the lamb slain in meekness endured all of the power of hell poured out upon him on the moral grounds of hell itself and death and triumphed in patient endurance and love that prayed and loved its enemies and had mercy upon them.

A moral victory was won at the cross on the basis of a lamb slain. And that is the basis also for our victory that ever as often as we in the same meekness and the same endurance of adversity in uncomplaining love will pursue the things of God and the opposition that will come against us increasingly because of our kingdom pursuit.

To that degree we shall make manifest the triumph that was established 2000 years ago at Calvary. And on no other basis the cross is the key. Calvary, Satan's worst, was defeated by God's best. The wisdom of God, which is foolishness triumphed over the wisdom of the world that seems to have all the marbles, all the power humility, meekness, patient suffering adversity endured mercy and forgiveness.

Love of the enemy triumphed over the power of hatred, cruelty, fear and death. The worst of Satan evoked the best of God at the cross, demonic malignity evoked divine magnanimity. Sorry that I have to be so fancy but do you know what I'm saying?

Yes, it's worth hearing. The worst of the enemy evoked the best of God. Divine malignity to be malign. The viciousness of evil brought about divine magnanimity. And that's why the enemy had to cry uncle.

In other words, when your worst brings about his best what more can you do? See, what further ground do you have to accomplish anything? Don't you understand what happened at the cross? Satan was defeated on the basis of the ground of his own morality because love triumphed over hatred and life over death by patiently enduring all that was visited upon it and yet raising from that death.

We've got to understand the moral dimension of Calvary because it is the position that we must occupy if the dunamis of God is going to be given to us because it will not be given on any other basis. And Satan is not required to acknowledge us on any other basis.

It's only the cross that terrifies him because it's the cross that robbed him of his power that took the rug out from under his feet that removed the foundation or the base for his being. We need to understand that something much larger was worked at the cross than just the issue of our atonement.

The universe is inherently moral and the great drama in which we are part and I'm going to speak about that after lunch is even going beyond what I'm now saying. It's beyond the issue of government. It's beyond the issue of rule and reign in the earth.

It's beyond the issue of earth. It's beyond the issue of time. It's the issues that pertain to eternity and the fulfillment of God's own righteous heart which is that through the church shall be demonstrated to the principalities and powers the manifold wisdom of God.

There's a glory to this, there's a mystery to this that goes beyond expediency or things that pertain to our life or to nations. It fulfills a moral requirement in the whole drama of the cosmos and God has elected to perform it through the church.

The manifold wisdom of God shall be demonstrated to the principalities and powers. You know what the manifold wisdom of God is? The cross. The foolishness of the cross. It's suffering meekly endured since under adversity.

It's loving those who persecute you. The worst of Satan evoked the best of God at the cross. Divine malignity evoked divine magnanimity so that the cosmic struggle for the mastery of the creation was won on the moral ground of God.

The cross has destroyed the enemy's ground and God's authority only operates on moral ground. That is the ground that is in keeping with his own nature the conflict between kingdoms the conflict between two moral orders righteousness and unrighteousness respectively.

Therefore the cross goes beyond atonement where we ourselves have been fixated and puts the church in the strong position of a moral and spiritual authority in the very realm where the evil forces have their seat.

The cross took Satan's moral or judicial ground from him. That's not to say that we just speak the cross or invoke the word that somehow the enemy is terrified. What needs to be evoked and demonstrated is the reality of the cross in our own experience in life as we face opposition and persecution and adversity.

It's spiritual authority. Therefore the church must stand in all the power of the cross. Satan's whole aim therefore is to move us off that ground to have us to operate on the basis of a human power outside of faith, outside of the righteousness of God outside of lamb likeness and to seduce us on earthly carnal and unholy ground.

Can you see that? If Satan can move us to have a campaign to do something humanly to expedite something expediently to do something that is born out of our mind and performed by our energy he has won.

He's not afraid of religious activity. He wants to move us off the ground of the cross the union with Christ in death by which also we have access to the life which defeated him at Calvary and terrifies him.

Anything that he can do to move us off the ground of the cross is the device of the enemy to bring us away from the righteousness of God to have us to employ tactics or devices to have not their origin in the life of the resurrected son of God.

If he can get you to live by principles he will have won a victory because principles don't scare him because they're being lived humanly by the strength of your will and your ability. That doesn't terrify him.

It's the life that terrifies him and the life will live its own principles. We need to understand that the wiles of the enemy is to move us off the ground of the cross because it's only on that ground that he's terrified.

And it's only on that moral ground that we receive the power and the dunamis to complete the works of Christ. Satan's whole aim is to move us off that ground to have us to operate on the basis of human power expediency outside of faith outside of the righteousness of God outside of the unlikeness.

Death to Self and Union With Christ

If he can only spoil our mood. If he can only get us to act out of temper out of indignation out of envy out of jealousy out of spite out of competition out of rivalry. He has won. If he can only get us to be competitive.

If he can only get us to affect our church conduct in terms of being better than the other church down the street he has won. He wants to get us off the grounds of the cross the ground of self-denial the ground of identification with Jesus in his death.

Every minister who ministers by preaching the word that is born out of fear of men that is political that is to say self-consciously calculated not to bring offense has been moved off the ground of the cross.

The cross is death again and again and again. It's a willingness to stand and to trust God. It's a willingness to speak what you believe he has put in your heart and in your mouth without fear of consequence.

It's the willingness to take the risk to believe that if you're dead to yourself you'll be alive unto God. It's a wholly different ground than religious respectability or religious ability. It's the cross, it's union.

The devil wants to remove us from the centrality of the cross. But our union with him is on the basis of the cross. Being conformed to his death is the path to power. And being baptized into his death is the whole means of entry.

I don't want now to spark controversy or to review the ancient controversies of the church about infant baptism or believer's baptism. But I think I understand better than ever why it is that the Anabaptists were burned alive at the stake.