Flat Earth Theory Utterly Flattened!

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This is a behind the scenes conversation we had with the cameras rolling with Dr. Robert Carter on the Flat Earth Theory. Why is this theory so utterly and completely false? We talk about everything from gravity, the size and distance of the sun and Dr. Robert Carter uses the word potty in a scientific way. For the record, no one at Apologia, or Dr. Robert Carter believes in Flat Earth. You can watch the entire episode on Flat Earth when you sign up for Apologia All-Access at http://apologiastudios.com

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I just was thinking about this, so if the Earth is flat, how come we aren't able to get pictures of what it looks like underneath?
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Because, dude, I said it. The UN has got these gunboats around the edge.
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You can't go over the edge. No, they don't let anyone over the edge. But I'm curious how that works in space if we're able to get the balloons up.
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I mean, I'm just... What do they believe? Space consists of balloons floating in the atmosphere. Which is somehow not spilling over the edge.
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I don't know how you... That's a good question. How does the atmosphere stay in? How do you keep the oceans in? How do you keep the atmosphere in?
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Well, yeah, I've seen a dome theory where there's a dome that the sun and the moon are underneath and they rotate above this flat
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Earth. What do they... Dr. Carter, what do they believe about... The dome theory was invented in the 1800s.
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The first time... You've seen that famous picture. There's a dome and a traveler with a staff and he's sticking his head through the edge of the dome and seeing different stars.
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You've probably seen that. This is so weird. This actually comes from a book in the 1800s and no evidence of anyone ever talking about it before that.
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That's so weird. Dr. Carter, what do they believe about space in general, like the galaxy, the universe?
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What do they... I don't... So if they throw away the idea of a spherical Earth... I know more about what the geocentrists teach about that because that's an intrinsic part of their model.
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The flat Earthers, they don't engage in questions.
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They talk about what they think is true and that's all they talk about. And they never... They don't say, oh, if this is true, then this also must be true.
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The geocentrists have done a lot more thinking. Flat Earthers, they don't because they can't. If you think about outside the box on any of these issues, you know your model is going to fall apart.
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Which is why I think this is really being driven by charlatans that are atheists and who just started doing this for fun.
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And for some reason, some Christian said, well, you know, if the Bible teaches it, it must be true. Wow. That's a good...
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Yeah. I've also heard that and I'm scared to agree with you, but you know, I mean, it could be.
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Yeah. Yeah. That would make a lot of sense. Well, and so they obviously... Controlling Christians. Yeah. Yeah.
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And so they obviously, they don't believe in like our model of space, though, because like the sun is close, is closer and smaller to the
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Earth. Their sun is, I think, 3000 miles above the surface. Yeah. But, you know, something else
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I just realized recently, if your earth is flat and you want to explain the sunlight, the sun is not shining in a circle on the earth.
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It has to actually shine in a wedge. And that wedge has to go around in a circle like that.
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You can't get a wedge shaped sunlight thing from around sun. Yeah. Is the sun flat or is that a glitch?
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It's a spotlight. I don't know if it has a power source behind it or if it's flat. I'm sorry. The moon is flat for them.
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This is so nutty. The moon is flat. This is so nutty. It's crazy. Oh, my goodness. Well, and really, like if you, their main defense is going to be what, like the government has been doing tons of damage control, open your mind, stop being a pawn of the government.
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That's really like the only defense of their argument you typically hear. You state as pawn of the government.
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Yeah. Are you kidding? Yeah. Oh, that's funny.
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Oh, my goodness. Wow. Yeah. No, it's crazy. It's absolutely as crazy as it sounds, but somehow people are believing it.
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I don't even understand. And that's and I think it's I mean, like you mentioned, the Internet is a huge place for anyone to put their platform on.
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And then if someone is facilitating this as some kind of way to troll
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Christians, then I mean, just shame on us. Every guy who believes this is in his mama's basement in his tighty whities with a can of Red Bull.
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Boom, boom, boom. Every single one. But see, that's the thing. My next my next retort is going to be, oh, go get a girlfriend.
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And I agree. But it's crazy because you'll look up some of these things just out of interest.
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But these people appear very normal, like scarily normal to have ideas like this.
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And there is a commercial airline pilot who exists in this world. Who is on his when he's on the job trying to fly people.
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The keyword there is a pilot and he's using a smartphone camera to film the horizon.
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And I bet he does not tell him the copilot. It's because I believe the Earth is flat. Do you see the horizon, dude?
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Do you see it, bro? And you know what? To the NASA astronauts looking at the horizon, are they far enough away?
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They can't see the whole horizon. Yeah, it's flat. Yeah, it's always flat.
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Right. Yeah. Because you're looking at a sphere, the higher up you go, the more you can see of it.
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But all you see is literally a slice of it. Right. And a slice of a circle is always flat because you see that what you can see in the further all of a sudden you can see the whole thing.
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Duh. Right, right. Well, yeah, anything. And well, and just like images that they would say that like any image we receive from space is obviously a hoax and not a real picture.
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And so they'll cite they'll say like, oh, well, look in this picture, like North America is larger in this picture.
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These images are being manipulated. And this goes back to the, you know, the men land on the moon.
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Right. And actually, it goes back a little bit to this creation evolution debate. Now, there's a big difference in the creation evolution debates.
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We're we're arguing here's the Bible and here's science and they fit together. Yeah. And that's why evolution cannot be.
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It doesn't work on either one. Right. But so there's obviously a conspiracy here. It's a spiritual battle.
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There's a whole bunch of people on that side and a few of us on this side. Well, what's the next step seems to be?
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Oh, well, the Bible also says the Earth is the center of the universe. Therefore, it must be a conspiracy.
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Oh, but the Bible also indicates the Earth is flat. So there must be a conspiracy. But in so those that second and third step, you're jettisoning in science.
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And that's that's too much. You can't go there. You can't you can't throw away all reason and you can't throw away reality.
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Right. That is not biblical. It really is like like you said, it's just a soundbite belief.
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Like if all the soundbites that they use, all the little statements, all the little facts, if all those is like if that's all you're going off of, then, of course, you could see how someone could believe it.
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But that's not all that exists in the world in terms of scientific knowledge. There's so much more than just soundbites.
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And the Internet, because of its nature, is ruled by sociopaths. Ha ha ha.
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Hey, how many websites do you know that they've turned off their comments because like, forget this. Why do we even have comments?
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These people are just idiots. No more comments. Right. Right. Who is whose rule is that?
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Oh, I forget. On any Internet thing, the probability of someone mentioning
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Hitler approaches one is this is a new law.
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It's the law of somebody's law. Yeah. Yeah. I forget the name of the law. I know what you're talking about. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's like it'll always happen no matter what.
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Someone's gonna be called a Nazi. Nazi! Great. Oh, there it is! So Here's a little interesting thing.
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It's kind of cool. I went to Australia. By the way, I hooked up with your boys over in Australia from Creation Ministries International when
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I was there in November. And then I went to New Zealand and I was in Christchurch, which is right near the bottom, and I got to see my hotel.
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I could look out my window at my hotel, and about 50 feet away was a fence from the United States government in New Zealand, and it was their
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Antarctic Antarctic Thing. It was where they go and they,
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I forget, there's a name of it. I'm trying to get the name of it. It was a US, United States military installation to study Antarctica, and I guess.
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Notice they weren't on Antarctica. That's right. I did see a couple UN blue hats running around, a bunch of deceivers.
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Nazis! Could you see, could you see the edge of the earth? No, I couldn't, and that's the problem.
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That's why I wanted to have Dr. Carter on today. Now you've given me some solace, Dr. Carter, because I was getting worried there.
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Hey, by the way, yeah, if the earth is flat, we can explain, they can explain why all the stars rotate around the
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North Pole. Right, because, I guess, either the earth is spinning or the universe is spinning around the
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North Pole, right? Right, but when you were in New Zealand, did you try to look at any familiar constellations in the sky?
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Uh, no, but I did. You have to do this, to see the constellations you're familiar with, because everything's upside down, and everything's rotating around the southern pole.
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Yes, as a matter of fact, one thing that was interesting about Australia and New Zealand was the direction that the water was going.
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The water goes down the toilet. Yeah. No. How do they explain that one? Not true. That's not true.
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No? No, it's not true. Oh, it's not true? It's the UN. No, because the toilets, the things are angled.
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Oh, is that their explanation? No, that is the explanation. That's the explanation, the real explanation. Okay, look,
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I'm not, this is not my area of expertise. A toilet is too small to see the Coriolis force. Okay. A fish tank, if you have a perfectly still fish tank and pull the plug and pull a hole in the bottom, it's too small to see the
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Coriolis force. Well, then why is everyone telling me that in Australia and New Zealand? Are they messing with me? They're, yeah, they're messing with you, or they didn't know.
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I went to Ecuador once, and the first thing I did, I was on a little town right on the equator. I'm literally, the equator went through the town.
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I ran into the bathroom. I filled up the sink. I unplugged the sink, and I flushed the potty, and they went in different directions.
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Okay, just one. They should have gone straight down. They shouldn't have spun at all. Okay, just one thing. You are a scientist, and you just used the word potty.
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Ah! Okay. In Australia, they used the word toilet.
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I may have been wrong about the water flow thing, but you did just say potty. You have a
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PhD attached to your name, sir. Well, uh, this is a good show.
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Okay, I think it'll be helpful. Hopefully, it's helpful. Are the cameras still rolling? Yeah, we just got an aftershow. You're gonna get a lot of hate mail for this,
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Beard. Hey, we love hate mail. are so used to that. They're going to say things that sound correct.
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Right. But anytime you actually analyze what they say, they're misrepresenting everything. It doesn't take long, but you've got to, you have to analyze it.
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And they're going to quote some statistic. It's not true, but you have to go find it. And okay, where'd they get that from? Okay, boom, you're not right.
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Right. No, there's actually like a simple one sentence that you say to people who believe in the flat earth myth.
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I think it's effective. It's get real bro. Get real bro. That's that's effective.
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Yeah. But see, an evolutionist could say that against a creationist. True. I'm facetious.
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There's my big words, bigger than potty, Dr. Carter. I'm on camera with that. Great. All right.