To deliver us from sin's penalty, to deliver us from sin's power, Romans 6, 1 -4 is probably, this passage is a basic salvation passage, showing us the gospel, Romans 6, 1 -4 deals with the identification, Romans 6 really is not talking about water baptisms, it's talking about spiritual identity with Christ, Romans 6, 1 -4 and as we have our baptism to remind us, they had the stones to remind them, Romans 6, here's for us, what shall we say then, shall we continue in sin that grace may abound, certainly not, how shall we who died to sin live any longer in it, well when we have our baptism service it's to remind us of the spiritual truth of Romans 6, how we spiritually died and how, or were dead, but how we identify with Christ, buried with him, or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death, therefore we were buried with him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also might walk with him in newness of life, for if we've been planned together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection, knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Christ, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we shall not serve sin any longer, even remember a few of those verses that we went over, Sonny, when we memorized that passage, you got yours down pat still, Neil, maybe we better have it removed of you, anyway, the key thought is identification, identification, you remember when Peter denied Christ, he said I won't deny you, he said yes you will Peter, I won't, you will, I won't, you will, when he denied him, actually what he did is, Jesus said you won't identify with me, he failed to identify with Jesus, now we can be baptized, have a water baptism, but that doesn't mean that we are going to identify with Christ, that comes when we come head to head with some situation that deals with self or sin, and we have to just die to self and let Jesus live through us, well Peter, he came to that head to head situation, and he denied Christ, he wouldn't deny himself, but we know later on that when he got the Holy Spirit at the day of Pentecost, then he was a new person, then he went out and preached, there were 3000 people saved, Peter was dead, now he had the power living in him, here is a principle, we are getting principles out of here, and that is this, I think God gives us the trials so he can give us memorials of victory, he gives us the trials, he lets us have them, we were talking about that in San Isco this morning, he lets us have these things, so hey, you remember that scar, you remember that situation, Vic and I was talking of a situation that we went through some years ago, a very, very bad situation, very hard, very hard, and that is a memorial in our mind of the power of Satan to get in and destroy, and to just do a terrible work, it's a memorial in our mind, we have memorials out in the fields that we look at, but we also got these things in our mind, God lets us go through these things, Sonny was sharing one three years ago when they came here, he's got one he'll never forget, when they came here and Kelly was sick, well that's a memorial, a lesson that God taught him, you remember Jacob wrestling with God, he pulled over the side of the road, he was going to spend the night, grabbed some stones for coal, and he wrestled with God, I was reading that in Genesis 32 this morning, it says that he went away from there with a limp, actually I think he must have been wrestling with Christ, and come the dawn, Christ said let me go, let me go, lights coming, and he said I won't let you go unless you bless me, and he blessed him, he changed his name at that time to Israel, but the scripture says that he touched the hollow of his hip, I don't know what happened to him anyway, he walked with a limp, that was a memorial, that was a memorial of his wrestling with God, so God was giving them these stones, he said I want you to take these stones, and you take twelve out, they put them on their shoulder, and you marched, and they marched a ways with them before they put them down, and you could tell who was carrying the stones, they had the deeper footprints in the sand, but Joshua, not only do I want those to take twelve and pile them up over there, but I want you to take twelve stones yourself, and take them and put them in the river, and put them there yourself, so Joshua took twelve stones.