God Is a Loving Heavenly Father — Zac Poonen

Seeing Our Inheritance in Christ

We have been thinking of seeing things from God's viewpoint. So I want to begin with a verse in Ephesians, in chapter 2, why it is possible for us to see things from God's viewpoint. Here is a description of what we were and what God did for us in Christ on the cross.

And I feel that there's a lot that Jesus did for us on the cross and inheritance that he purchased for us. And the vast majority of Christians have got only 10 of that inheritance. That's a great tragedy.

And that's why they're living in spiritual poverty when they could be spiritually wealthy. Something like if your father was a billionaire and owned a lot of property and bank accounts in different places, different banks, and he died, and he left a will for you, his only son or daughter, and gave complete details in that will of what all there was of his wealth in so many different banks and property in different areas.

I'm absolutely sure you would carefully read it. You wouldn't let any crooked lawyer cheat you out of your inheritance. You would make sure that you get it all. But I don't find that type of passion among Christians to get a far richer inheritance that they have in Christ.

They don't read the scriptures carefully. The inheritance that God's bought for you is here in this book. And when I look at the spiritual poverty of so many Christians, to me, it's like that billionaire father's son living like a homeless man on the street asking people for help.

And you look at that homeless man on the street, and if I tell you, you know, his father was a billionaire who left all his wealth for him, you wouldn't believe it. How did that happen? Some crooked lawyer cheated him of his inheritance because he didn't read it carefully.

And when I see some Christians in exactly that condition spiritually, pathetic, gloomy, discouraged, defeated, grumbling, complaining, losing their temper, lusting and watching pornography of all things, and saying that they are children of God, they remind me of that homeless beggar claiming, my father was a billionaire.

But look at your condition. And we say our father is the ruler of this universe. It doesn't look like that when I look at your life. Why is that? Because we have not read our inheritance fully. So I want to help you to possess your inheritance little by little.

That's what I tried to do yesterday. So to see things from God's viewpoint is to see the inheritance that Jesus purchased for us at such tremendous cost. Do you think the blood of Christ is worth more than a billion dollars?

Sure, trillions. It's worth much more. So think of the price he paid to purchase that inheritance. And this is what it says here in Ephesians 2 and verse 1. Once upon a time, you were dead in your trespasses and sins.

And you walked according to the course of this world, lived according to the lust of your flesh, verse 3. But God, being rich in mercy, verse 4, because of his great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ.

You see, there's a lot of difference between just saying that you were forgiven. A lot of Christians know their sins are forgiven. That's great. But it says here we are made spiritually alive. We were dead spiritually, but we are made alive in Christ and raised up with Christ.

That means one of the great truths that is taught in scripture, which many people have not understood, is not just that Christ died for our sins, but God put us in Christ when he died on the cross. Many of you probably never heard that in your churches, because even if they preach, they preach that Christ died for your sins and rose again.

But the fact that you were crucified with Christ, that is the secret of deliverance. You don't get delivered by the blood of Christ. That only blots out your past. You know, there's a song we sing, would you be free from your passion and pride?

There's power in the blood. Well, I want to tell you there's no power in the blood to free you from your passion and pride. That's completely wrong. There's power in the blood to cleanse your past sins.

But we sing in that song, would you be free from your passion and pride? There's power in the blood. No. You don't find a single verse in scripture that teaches that. We need to recognize what the blood of Christ does.

You want to be freed from your passion and pride? It's not the blood of Christ. You must be crucified with Christ. It's completely different. And so people sing about the blood of Christ, freeing them from their passion, their anger, and their pride.

And they live with their anger and pride, singing that song for endless ages. And they don't seem to say, hey, the blood of Christ doesn't seem to have delivered me from my anger or my pride, but I keep singing that song.

It's absolute nonsense, singing something that doesn't work in your life. You have to be called a liar. If you sing something that's not true in your life, you're a liar. That's the meaning of a lie, to tell something which is not true.

And to tell other people you'll be free from your passion and pride by the blood of Jesus, no, you won't. It didn't free you, and it's not going to free anybody else. So we need to understand what the blood of Christ does and what being crucified with Christ does.

The blood of Christ was shed as the atonement for our sin. There's a price to be paid for the sins we committed, and Jesus died for that. And all our sins can be taken care of if you confess them. But now our next problem is our nature, which is full of passion and pride and selfishness and every wretched imaginable thing that you can think of that comes from the corrupt nature of Adam we have all inherited from our parents.

And for that, the deliverance is not through the blood of Christ. I am crucified with Christ. So that's what he's talking about here. We were crucified with Christ on the cross and then raised up with him, verse 6.

That means when he was raised from the dead, I was raised from the dead as well. That's how I get delivered from my pride and selfishness. And that's a truth which is hardly preached anywhere in Christendom.

Crucified With Christ and the Exchanged Life

Paul experienced it. He says in Galatians in chapter 2, how did Paul manifest the life of Christ in him? Listen to this. Galatians 2, 20, I have been crucified with Christ. He's not talking there about the forgiveness of sins.

He was already cleansed by the blood of Christ. Now he's talking about how he can manifest the life of Jesus in his body. I have been crucified with Christ. Now it is no longer I who live. What happened to the I?

The I was crucified. It's dead. And that dead man, he says he's not living anymore. But Christ lives in me. We can call this the exchanged life. I gave up my life to be crucified with Christ and Christ came and took over.

And the life which I now live, I live in the flesh, but I live by faith in the son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. If I don't do that, verse 21, I'm canceling the grace of God. But I don't cancel the grace of God.

So a question can come into our mind. Well, how in the world could I be crucified with Christ when I'm living in the 20th, 21st century and he died in the first century? Well, I'll tell you how. It says in Ephesians in chapter one in verse four that God chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians one four is referring to a period of time before Genesis one verse one. We think Genesis one verse one is the first verse in the Bible in terms of the Bible, yes, but in terms of time. The first verse is John one one.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. That's long before Genesis one one and Ephesians one four is also long before Genesis one one. The foundation of the world was Genesis one verse one.

Before the foundation of the world, he, that is the father, chose us in Christ. That means long before you were born, long before Adam was created, God knew about you. God knew about you by name. That brings great comfort to me that you're not just a social security number floating around on this world.

You were known by name before the world was created if you have received Christ as your savior. Why is that? Because God can look into the future and see everything. That's what I mean. Now, the Calvinists say, and I'm not a Calvinist, the Calvinists say that God chose you arbitrarily.

That means he just shut his eyes and picked out some names and said, okay, you guys are going to heaven. The rest of you, sorry, you're going to go to hell. That would be an evil God. I don't believe in a God like that because then if somebody goes to hell, he'll say, why are you punishing me when you didn't choose me?

That's why I'm in hell. That's not what the Bible says. God wants everybody to repent. It says in second Peter in chapter three, God wants everybody to be saved. It says in one Timothy in chapter two, verse four and five.

So God wants everyone to repent and everybody to be saved. And how in the world would he just pick out a few names in eternity and say, only you guys are going to be saved. And that's why I'm not a Calvinist and I never will be one.

How then does it mean that God, is it true that God chose us? Yes, he certainly did. But how did he choose us before the foundation of the world? We must compare scripture with scripture. Don't ever get a doctrine from one verse of scripture.

You could misunderstand scripture. So when it speaks about God's choosing, think of what else scripture says in one Peter chapter one in verse one and two. Here it explains how we were chosen. In Ephesians one four, it just says we were chosen.

But in one Peter, verse chapter one, verse one and two, it says how we were chosen. It says to those that are residing in these places, those who were chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father.

And this is the verse that all Calvinists will never talk about because it completely destroys their teaching. You were chosen not arbitrarily. It's not that God put a lot of names in a hat and pulled out some names and says, you guys are going to heaven.

No, foreknowledge. God did not influence your choice. You chose, but he knew about it before. He did not make you choose. He did not make somebody else reject Christ. God does not make anyone reject Christ.

He encourages everyone to repent. He encourages everyone to believe, but he will not force them. Like I said yesterday, he doesn't want robots. But he knows in advance who is going to choose Christ, even though he doesn't influence them.

It's not that God forces a person to accept Christ, what they call irresistible grace. It's a lot of rubbish, irresistible grace. You can resist the grace of God, sure. You can say no. It wasn't God who crucified Christ on the cross.

It was evil people. Inspired by the devil, but God allowed it. God knew about it before the foundation of the world that Jesus Christ would be crucified. It's not a surprise. God knew that Adam would sin long before he was created him.

It wasn't a surprise. It's not that Adam sinned and said, oh, what shall we do now? That's not how God reacted when Adam sinned. He knew about it all along. He said the seed of the woman will come and crush the serpent's head.

Straight away he said that because it was all planned before the foundation of the world. So what does foreknowledge mean? Now here is an illustration. If you listen carefully, you'll understand it. How God does not influence your choice to accept or reject Christ, but he knows about it.

Supposing you see a video on the screen, a home video produced by somebody of some people playing together, or children or human beings that say a quarrel on the street or somebody doing some kind act, and a video of various things that's happening in a town, and you see some people quarreling and fighting and hitting and somebody killing someone, and then you see another video of somebody doing a very kind act and helping the poor, and you're just watching it, okay?

And you're just watching what's happening. You don't even know those people. You did not influence that man who killed that man. You did not influence that man who showed that act of kindness to that poor man.

You are just watching it. And if someone tells you to write down what you saw, you can write down, yeah, I saw this man killing this man, and I saw this man doing an act of kindness. You did not influence that at all.

You just watched the video. Now, God can watch a video of something that's gonna happen in the future. You can only watch a video of something that's already happened in the past, you and I. But God sees a video millions of years into the future, what somebody's gonna do, whether he's gonna kill somebody, whether he's gonna do an act of kindness, whether he's going to respond to the gospel and receive Christ, or whether he's gonna listen to the gospel and chuck it out, or whether he's gonna worship idols and turn away from God or worship some false gods.

God is only watching the video. And just like you didn't influence that whole video that somebody else shot and showed you, God doesn't influence the video of the future either. He watches it, and like you can describe what you saw in that video, God can describe exactly what happens in the video, what's gonna happen 10 ,000 years in the future.

That is called foreknowledge. And on the basis of that foreknowledge, what he sees in the video of the future, he elects that person. He's received Christ, okay, I choose him. That person rejected Christ.

He's not in the book of life. So that's what it means here by election. I hope you understand that. That's the best illustration I've ever found of what election is. And now we come back to Ephesians 1, 4.

We were chosen in Christ, now you understand, according to God's foreknowledge, before the foundation of the world, and the purpose was that we should be holy and blameless before him because in love he predestined us because he saw the video ahead of time to see what you were gonna do.

And he saw you folks sometime in your life receiving Christ. And God said, okay, your name's in the book of life. And he saw somebody else rejecting Christ. His name is not in the book of life. There's no partiality with God.

He created all human beings. He allowed all human beings to come to this earth. And he leaves it to us to choose. He urges us to choose. He gives us the grace to repent, but people can reject the grace of God and then they don't repent, it's their own.

That's why everybody who goes to hell is 100 to blame himself. He'll never be able to blame God. He'll never be able to blame somebody else. And so when God knew us before the foundation of the world, he'd already got all these names that includes you and me and everybody else right up to the end of time who are gonna be born again children of God.

And in God's mind, he put them all into Christ when Christ was crucified on the cross. You were there, I was there. In God's mind, I was there, killed with Christ on the cross. That old man called Zacfun and died on the cross.

Now it becomes real to me only if I accept it. Take the matter of sin. There are people who can ask this question. How could Jesus die for my sins when I'm committing them in the 21st century? How's that?

How could he die for my sins in advance? Because of the videotape. God already knew what you were gonna do. He knew every sin that you're ever gonna commit from the day you were born right up until the day you die.

And he could put them all on Christ. Every single sin because of the videotape with the future which he can see. And he put you to death on the cross as well. But he did not only put you to death because you received Christ.

He put you in Christ. In Christ you died. And listen to this, Ephesians chapter two. When Jesus Christ was buried, you were buried with him. And when he rose up from the dead, Ephesians 2, 6, you rose with him from the grave.

And here's the best part of it. When he ascended to heaven, you ascended with him there. And as he is seated in heaven today, you are seated with him there. None of this is true until you receive it. Just like Christ died for your sins but it never became true in your life till you received it, right?

Think of the years and years and years and years and years in which you lived in sin even though Christ had died for your sins and yet you were living in your sin. When did it become real in your life?

When you believed it. When you accepted it. Lord, I believe that 2 ,000 years ago, these sins that I committed now in my earthly life, you took it there and you died for me and I believe I'm forgiven.

In the same way, our death with Christ and our being raised up with him becomes true in us when I believe and accept it. There's a principle in God's dealings with us. It's called according to your faith, be it unto you.

So if I accept it as true that I was united with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection, and it doesn't stop there, and ascension, I'm in Christ and where is Christ now? In the heavenly places. Then I can look at everything from God's viewpoint.

See, you can't experience this unless you believe it. What does it mean to look at things from God's viewpoint? That is from heaven. And one of the wonderful things about heaven is that when you look at a lot of things on earth from heaven's viewpoint, they don't appear so big.

They're pretty small. You know, people on earth fight for houses and lands, but you go up into an airplane 30 ,000 feet up in the air and that house looks like a little toy house. People fighting for it, little children fighting for toy houses, and that expensive Cadillac car is like a little toy car when you get up to 30 ,000 feet.

It doesn't look so attractive as down on earth. Why are so many things on earth so attractive to you? Because you're living on the earth. If you take your place with Christ in the heavenly places, the place where God has put you, it says here, you've read Ephesians 2, 6 many times, do you believe it?

You know that in everything in scripture, you cannot experience until you believe. I've often thought about Matthew chapter nine. It's one of my favorite illustrations. Matthew chapter nine, you read about two blind men who came to Jesus and said, Lord, have mercy on us.

He asked them, what do you want me to do for you? Matthew chapter nine, and they said, Lord, we want our eyes to be open. And when they came to him and wanted their eyes to be opened, the fact that they asked for their eyes to be opened is mentioned in Mark's gospel.

And then he said, he asked them a question. He said, do you, this is Matthew chapter nine, verse 28. Do you believe that I am able to do this for you? Do you believe that I'm able to do this for you? They said, yes, Lord.

Okay. Be it done to you, not according to your desire, not according to my desire, but according to your faith. So what did they get? They got as much as they believed. And I've thought in that situation, if those two men had gone one by one into the room where Jesus was, because he came into the house, we read in verse 28, and the blind men came to the house.

Supposing they went one by one, and the first man went in and Jesus asked him, do you believe I can open your eyes? And supposing he had said, Lord, I believe you can open one eye. Definitely, I'm absolutely sure.

You know what God would have told him? The Lord would have told him exactly the same words. According to your faith, be it done to you. What would have happened? His one eye would have been open. And he'd be so excited.

When a blind man gets one eye open, can you imagine how excited he is? Because he's been blind all his life, and all of a sudden he can see things. He's jumping and shouting and happy. And he comes out and says, hey, you know what Jesus did for me?

He opened my one eye. And then the other guy goes in, and Jesus asked him the same thing. Do you believe I can do this for you? He says, sure. I believe you can open both my eyes. According to your faith, be it done to you.

He comes out with both eyes open, and the man with one eye looks at him and says, how in the world did you get both eyes open? Jesus only opens one eye. This is the conflict in Christendom today. To have one eye open is to have our sins forgiven.

To have the second eye open is to overcome sin. Now the question is, does Jesus only forgive sin, or does he also keep us from falling into sin? Does he save us, or does he only forgive us? One man says he forgives us.

He's got one eye open. How did he get it? By faith. Another person says, I believe Jesus also saves me from my sin. He saved me. How did he get it? Not because he was better than the other guy. Not because he did more works.

It's got nothing to do with works. He just believed. The Lord asked him, do you believe I can do this for you? He said, sure. So what happens? These two guys go out, and this one man starts the one-eyed denomination that preaches Jesus can open only one eye, and the other guy starts the two-eyed denomination that preaches Jesus can open two eyes, and the guy with one eye calls the other guy a heretic.

It's false teaching that Jesus can open two eyes. He does not. I know from my own experience that he opened only one eye, and he's speaking the truth. He doesn't realize that he missed out on what he could have had if he had trusted God for more.

That is exactly what has happened. Today we have most of Christendom preaching Jesus can forgive your sin. How many people can teach that Jesus will help you to overcome sin? That Jesus who opened one eye will open the other eye as well?

That you can be seated in the heavenly places because you're crucified with Christ, and you can see things from God's viewpoint, and a lot of things that people fight for on earth are like little toys for you because you're now looking at them from heaven's viewpoint.

Otherwise, it's such a struggle. This guy is taking that thing of mine. When you look at it from God's viewpoint, it looks so trivial and small, things that Christians fight about. I believe this is the problem.

Salvation From Sin and the First New Testament Promise

For example, I don't know how many of you know, what is the first promise in the New Testament? We've spoken about old covenant, new covenant, old covenant was abolished, and Malachi is the last chapter of the old covenant.

And as soon as you turn to Matthew chapter one, you come to the New Testament part of the Bible, and the first promise in the New Testament is, do you know what it is? Tell me. He shall save his people from their sins.

Matthew 121. So I ask people, do you know the meaning of the name Jesus? Matthew 121, the angel told Joseph, you shall call his name Jesus because, because he will save his people from their sins. So I tell people, listen, has Jesus saved you from your sin?

They say, yeah. Has he saved you from your anger? No, he hasn't, but he forgives my anger. Has he saved you from lusting after women? No, not yet, but he's forgiven me every time I do it. Has he saved you from totally, from complaining and grumbling?

No, he hasn't, but he forgives me every time I do it. I said, then be honest and say, Jesus is my forgiver, not my savior. Don't call him your savior. He's not your savior because he's not saved you from all the wretched sins you're still practicing.

But he's forgiven you. Why tell a lie that he's your savior when he's not your savior? He saved you from nothing. Oh, you say he saved me from hell. Well, that's in the future. What's he saved you from right now?

You see how we are telling lies. I think, supposing I'm witnessing to a non-Christian, a non-Christian who's seeking the truth. He's been worshiping false gods and he's fed up with his defeated life and his home life is a mess.

And he hears about Jesus, the savior, and he comes and I tell him about Jesus. And he says, what can Jesus do for me? And I tell him, you know, we're all sinners and he died on the cross to take the punishment for all my sin and your sin.

You can just receive him and you can be forgiven immediately. And when you die, you'll go to heaven. He says, that's wonderful. But he says, I have another problem. I keep yelling at my wife every day.

Can Jesus save me from that? And if you yourself are not saved from that, he said, no, no, no, Jesus can't save you. He's not so powerful. He cannot save you from that, but he can forgive you. And then he says, I have another problem.

I keep lusting after women all the time. Do you think Jesus can save me from that? No, no, no, Jesus is not so powerful. He can't help you with that. The devil is pretty powerful, you know. He makes you do it and Jesus is not so powerful.

And he says, okay, you gotta live with that. And he says, no, thank you. I don't want your Jesus. You keep your Jesus. I'm looking for someone who will deliver me from these sins. Do you blame him for rejecting this wretched gospel that you have preached to him?

That Jesus can forgive your sin, but he can't deliver you from any of the other sins because the devil is so mighty and powerful that he's done such a work in your life that even Jesus cannot do it. That is a false Christ.

It is another Jesus. And that is the other Jesus that is being proclaimed by many Christians, if not by their words, by their life. You know what many Christians are proclaiming by their life? This Jesus of mine can never deliver me from anger.

This Jesus of mine can never deliver me from lusting with my eyes. This Jesus of mine will never deliver me from grumbling and complaining or lusting after women or loving money and being covetous and being selfish.

If you don't believe me, ask my wife. She'll tell you, this Jesus does not deliver me from any of these things. But he forgives me, boy, how good he is. Even if I sin a hundred times a day, his blood cleanses me and I will sing about the blood.

There is power in the blood. There's power in the blood, power in the blood. What type of savior is this? Call him forgiver. And I believe that most Christians only know him as forgiver if they're honest.

They are liars when they say he's savior because he saved them from nothing. You ask yourself, what has he saved you from? I use another illustration. Supposing a little child of mine is six years old and I tell him, hey, don't go outside the gate.

The construction workers are working on the road and they're digging a deep pit there for the sewage line. And if you go outside the house, you can fall into a pit. It's a deep pit, 10 foot deep, don't go outside.

And you know how children are, they disobey their dad. And they go and he goes and falls into that pit. And he says, daddy, daddy. And I come running and say, son, what happened? Daddy, I'm sorry, I disobeyed you.

Please forgive me. I say, okay, son, forgiven, goodbye. Have I forgiven him? Yes. Have I saved him? No. Has Jesus forgiven you? Yes. Has he saved you? No. Don't you think you're telling a lie when you say he's your savior?

Don't you think Christendom has deceived you by not allowing you to see your inheritance? Telling you that he took your sins on the cross but he didn't take you on the cross even though the Bible says you were also there crucified, buried and raised up.

What is the difference, let's say, between you and the other guy whose sins are not forgiven? Don't you know, tell me honestly, don't you know some people in the world who have not sinned as much as you?

I know people who have not sinned as much as me. I'm sure you know people who you know the wretched sins you committed and I'm sure you know some people who have not committed as many sins as you. How in the world did you get forgiven and that guy get left out?

How were your sins forgiven? And he who committed less sins than you, not forgiven? Only one reason. What is it? You repented and you believed. That's all. It's not because you were better than him. Not because God was partial.

You believed. You said, Lord, I believe. You forgive a wretch like me. That guy doesn't believe. Okay, now we go to the second eye, second problem. How is it that that person has got deliverance, that he's got victory over his anger and his bitterness and his complaining and his lusting and his love of money and you haven't got it?

Same reason. He believed and you don't. According to your faith, be it unto you, do you want victory? Yes. Does Jesus want to give you victory? Yes. But you don't have faith for it. That's the only reason.

Supposing God wants to forgive everybody in the world. It's very clear. He wants all men to come to repentance. Second Peter chapter three, verse nine. He wants all men to be saved. 1 Timothy chapter two, verse four and five.

So here it is. God wants all men to repent and all men to be saved. That's clear. Yet, the number of people on this earth who actually repent and are saved is probably 5 of the most. 95 of people for whom Jesus died are on their way to hell.

Including lots of Christians who call themselves Christians. Why is that? They won't believe. They think they've got to do some works in order to believe. No, no works. It's free. And in the same way, 95 of born-again believers who've already been forgiven, they never come to a life of victory.

Again, the same reason is the same. They don't believe. They don't accept the fact that I have been crucified with Christ. As I've often said, I was born again when I was 19 and a half, but I never experienced the beginnings of victory till I was about 36.

16 years as a born-again Christian. Absolutely sure I'm on my way to heaven, but with one eye open. I couldn't really say I called Jesus my savior, but he wasn't because he hadn't saved me from a lot of things.

But he had forgiven me. I was absolutely sure of that. No doubt about it. The tragedy was I never heard a sermon like this that you're hearing right now. I wish I had when I was 19. I really wish I'd heard this as soon as I was saved.

But I went to a church where they never preached victory over sin. I don't blame them because nobody there had victory over sin. All they knew was forgiveness, and so that's all I got. I mean, if you go to a school where the only class is kindergarten, there's no other class after that, well, that's all you learn.

You'll be 25 years old. You'll be in the kindergarten. A lot of churches are like that. There's only one class, kindergarten. How to have your sins forgiven. And most churches are like that with one class, kindergarten.

I remember I went to, we went for meetings in a village in India. Most of our churches are planted in these villages where lots of non-Christians, and they've accepted Christ. But there are Christians also there who have got this kindergarten type of churches.

And so one of them asked me in a question-answer time, so, Brother Zach, have you come here to steal the sheep from other churches and start your church here? I said, no. Most of them are goats in any case, so I'm not stealing any sheep here.

I'm not coming here to steal any sheep at all. And secondly, quite apart from the illustration of sheep and goats, I said, I don't look at it like that. I look at it as I've come to a village where there are a whole lot of schools which only have kindergarten.

And I've come here to start a high school. Is that a crime? Now, a lot of people are quite happy with kindergarten. Okay, stay in the kindergarten schools, but there are a few people, maybe 1%, who say, hey, we are not happy with just kindergarten.

I want to get a little more education. So I'm just making a provision for them. I'm not dragging them out and say, come on, come here. And the other thing about my school is it's absolutely free. You don't have to pay for this education.

The teachers are also not paid, by the way. It's free. So what is the crime of my setting up a school to help those who want to study a little more than kindergarten? I said, that's what I'm doing. I'm not stealing anybody's sheep.

If, for example, in a town there's only schools and no colleges, and somebody sets up a college there, would that be a crime? Is he stealing people from the schools? No. He's telling people, those who have finished school, if you're happy with that's all you want, stay where you are.