(Faith Community Chapel) 10/31 Message — Keith Daniel

Thank you, good brother, for leading us with such a wonderful prayer. And thank you to the dear brother that led the singing tonight. I think he introduced himself yesterday as Cross. Somebody Cross, but he's not always Cross.

Something like that. There you are. Good to have a name like that. Inos Hostetler, who led just in this brief leading tonight, thank you sincerely for whatever part you had in arranging for me to come to this convention, this outreach.

And also to Jim and Linda. I'll never be able to say their name in a thousand years. But their children are Peyton, Davis, Carolina. Catalina. Catalina, that's a lovely name. Okay, Diana and Bill. Good, I'll try.

Bond, Fraga. I did it. And I'm from the jungle, so I came right. Well, bless you. It's been such a joy because of this dear pastor or elder. I don't know how you would address yourself, but I bless God for you.

And for your elders, the men that stand with you. And most particularly, I would say Inos. Of the faith community church, Shipshewana, Indiana. Now there you are. You know where you come from. And I'm learning.

Thank you sincerely for inviting me. I am very unworthy of the privileges God gives me. And I am so grateful that if you knew the worship in my heart as I come to places like this. For the absolute privilege God has given me to see so many of God's people.

Of all cultures, of all languages even. If they could just grasp English a little. All colors, all different denominations, all movements. Somehow the godly of the godly of the godly of these movements and groups.

For some reason asked me into their pulpit. I don't think I've ever been in a liberal church in my life. Or have to preach anyway. I think the one time I managed to go in, I ran out before it started.

Of a liberal church. So I don't know too much about them. But for some reason God has given me the wonderful joy and privilege of being in many of the Most esteemed and loved and revered pulpits across the world.

Of the godly of the godly of the godly. And I am so conscious of that and I am so grateful. For your trust in me. Even here in this corner of the vineyard. Of Christ's vineyard. I do hope you let me come back.

It's all in God's loving hands. But it would be a joy to come back. And get to know you all more. I really would be delighted. If there's anyone I haven't said thank you to that I should. Forgive me. I would just like to mention that my wife's newsletter.

That is also printed here in America. By a dear brother. Don. Don Cravel. And sent out across this continent to many godly homes. Many preachers. But it would be so nice of you to take a copy. Just to follow what's left of this.

This nine week, ten week tour really. Ten weeks of meetings. In these seventeen towns. Fourteen states. I'm leaving tomorrow and going off to. To where? Oh yes. God's Missionary Church. That sounds exciting.

Duncannon Pennsylvania. Jeremy Fuller. He must be a good man. With a name like that. So pray for us. Then I'm going to meet up with my darling wife. In Rhinelander. In Wisconsin. Where she addresses the ladies every year.

And I address everyone in the night. And then of course we go on. Numbers of other places. Till the end of this month. Please take a copy. And if you would like to receive this newsletter. You would honour me.

And you would honour my family. In praying for us. Soberly. Knowing exactly where we are. And you're only a prayer away. From the other side of the world. You pray God's working. And you know what to pray for.

If you have this little newsletter. So you honour us. If you put your name and address down. But only if you know. You will do everything by God's grace. To faithfully pray. Through that program. Otherwise it's wasted money.

As from God's people. So please pray about that. Before you leave. Our brother mentioned. Our brother Enos mentioned. That he had attended. Sermon Index. Conference. Down in. I don't know. Ohio. Ohio.

But anyway. It was a lovely time. Lovely group from all over this nation. And I believe from other countries people came. And this young fellow. Who's got the Sermon Index website. I don't even know how to put a computer on.

So I don't want to act like an authority. But I think he's done a good thing. This young man. Greg Gordon. Tall man. A bit fearful. But he's humble. And he started this for some reason. And he's got a following all across the whole world.

Of the godly. The conservative Christians of all walks of life. Are just downloading all across the world. Sermons that many godly people have preached. And for some reason he's put me on those. A lot of the sermons I've preached over the years.

And I'm very grateful. But there was one sermon. That our brother. I think was referring to. Psalm 51. When I preached there. Only the one night they let me preach. I was perhaps going to preach it here.

I'm not going to. It's just scriptures. Which is 90 of what I do. It's just quoting books of the Bible and scriptures. Over the years and years and years. Just comparing scripture with scripture. But then every now and again.

I resort to some illustrations. Such as I am tonight. But those of you that do have any access. And know how to put a computer on. You would. I'd be very grateful. If you would perhaps just download that message.

That I preached there. Because I don't know if I'll ever preach that again. In America anyway. I would be grateful. Because that's what I live to do. And love to do. More than anything else. Bring the word of God.

Because he honors his word above all things. So I do too. I try to. Nonetheless. Think of that. Let's have a short prayer please. Can we bow before the Lord. Jesus Christ. Our Father. Thank Thee that we can.

As Thy people. Worship Thee tonight. For Jesus our Lord and Savior. Thank Thee. That He dwells in our hearts. Thank Thee that Christ. Lives His life through us. To what degree we are yielded to the Holy Spirit.

For the Holy Spirit's complete and full work. Is to glorify Christ. And to conform us. Back into the image that was lost at the fall. The image of God. That God created man in. Marred and scarred and wounded and broken by sin.

But O thou dost. By Thy grace through Christ in us. Through the Holy Spirit. Conform us back into the image of Christ. That our reactions. Without any effort. No matter how trying the circumstances. Reveal Jesus Christ's reactions.

His words. We eventually have the mind of Christ. Paul says. We bless Thee. That as Thy children. Thou art busy with each one of us. Forgive us where we do not allow Thee. To make Christ seen in our lives.

Beginning in the home. Have mercy. Give us the grace. To as never before. At the end of this meeting and even during it. To seek God. With every faculty of our being. Every hope in our being and intellect.

To have His full way and sway. Through us. While we have a moment. In this earth. To serve Him. To influence others to love Him. And though we might not even be conscious. To see Him. Living out His life through us.

And be drawn to His salvation. Come Lord. And visit us now. Protect us. From the evil one. Rebuke him away. By the risen resurrected power of Christ. And by the Holy Spirit brewed now upon this building.

The Word of God as the Foundation for Christian Living

Upon all hearts. In Jesus the Christ name. In Jesus the Saviour's name. The name that is above every name. In Jesus Christ's holy name. Amen. Last night and the night before. I brought a number of passages of scriptures.

As a foundation. To illustrations. Interwoven with other scriptures concerning hell. And the night before. The delivering power of Christ. To whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey. Now God allows me to do that.

Not often. To bring illustrations. I think it took a long time. Before God allowed me to start. Using illustrations. I haven't got much. That I could honestly say. God can use to change a heart. But the word of God.

I do know will change. My word shall not return unto me void. It shall accomplish the purpose for which it was sent. I hang on to that as I preach. As I leave a community. Knowing that God promised. That the effect of this word.

The purpose of it. Would not return unto him void. Because he promised. So. Tonight. I am not going to. Do either. I'm not going to speak. The illustrations that I saw. These young children. Many of you.

Most of you didn't even move. I looked at some of you. The whole sermon. As I looked back. You hadn't moved. And your mouth was still open. And I'm grateful. But you will listen tonight. Every one of you children.

You little children. If Jesus is in you. If Jesus Christ is in you. If the Holy Ghost is in you. You are as gripped. By the word of God. As any grown up. Who's been through this book many times. I'll tell you why.

When God speaks. And the Holy Spirit's in you. He makes you hang on. To every word. Understand every word. Maybe not the full revelation. But there's something of a feeding. That God comes to the smallest child.

In groups like this. And that's why young little boy. If Jesus is in you. You're not going to move. Well. And you little girl. You will not pick up a pen. And draw a picture of me. To give me at the end of this conference.

But you will listen. And we'll pray for all of you that don't. Because we'll know why. Now. I want you all to listen. Because I'm going to preach in a way I seldom preach. But I want you to listen carefully.

Because for some reason. Although I was going to bring something very different tonight. The Lord has laid this on my heart very deeply. I believe. So I said I will have to Lord. Put down that which I thought would be appropriate.

With so many children. And young people and perhaps unconverted. I'm going to read passages. Most of you older people will quote. Knowing your background. I'm going to read. From Malachi. The last book in the Old Testament.

And you're welcome to look. But if you don't want to. If you know these verses. You need just open your heart. Because there's other passages following. But I want as a foundation. To just consider some staggering words.

That this prophet wrote. Under God's guidance. As God spoke. Through him to record. That which God would say. To his people. In a very earnest way. In Malachi chapter 2. We read these. Deeply staggering words.

Marriage, Covenant, and the Pursuit of Godly Children

That God says concerning marriage. Concerning a man and woman. Concerning a man particularly. And giving revelation. About something of marriage. That nowhere else in the Bible. Do you really see this.

But it's staggering. It's staggering. To those of you that fear God. And believe this is his word. His heart. His will for you. His purpose for your life. He says in verse 14. Yet he say wherefore. Because.

The Lord. Hath been witness. Between thee. And the wife of thy youth. The Lord. Hath been witness. Between thee. And the wife of thy youth. Against whom. Thou hast dealt. Treacherously. Imagine God having to say that to a man.

Who once upon a time. Looked to God to witness. That he was obeying God. Concerning what he was saying. In his vows. Concerning his wife for the rest of his life. And now God has to say this. To the man.

Oh this is staggering. Against whom thou hast dealt. Treacherously. Yet is she. Thy companion. Literally she is thy. Companion. The wife. Of thy covenant. And did not he make one. A covenant. In God's sight.

Yet he had. Had he the residue of the spirit. It's a complicated verse. There was something about. His spirit. That was controlled by God's spirit. In the longing. To fulfill God's word. That God's will towards this woman.

All his life. For better or worse. Sickness or health. To still have that grace. There was something in his heart. As he made his covenant. That was really true. There's a staggering depth to this verse.

And I wish I could go into the Hebrew. And other verses. But I haven't time there. He had the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one. He comes back to speaking about the covenant. That God's addressing now.

At your marriage ceremony. That he might seek. A godly seed. Why did God. Call for a covenant. For you to enter into a covenant. That's so deeply. Deeply. Fearful. For a man to enter into. Or a woman for the rest of their lives.

If you consider what God. Demands of marriage. Why did God bring about this covenant. Because a man's lonely. Because it's not good for a man to be alone. Adam. So I'll make someone to be a companion.

No. No that's not the purpose of marriage. In God's eyes. The main singular purpose. You might think otherwise brother. That he might seek from this union. From this covenant. Godly children. Godly offspring.

Godly seed. That is in the heart of God. In this world. That because of you fearing him. He joins you together. With one great purpose. Your first mission field. Before any soul on earth. Is your children.

From the day they're born. Something about the atmosphere they're born into. And while still in mother's tummy. Something about the atmosphere. And the love and nurture. And the peace that woman has. And confidence.

And trust. And joy. Everything. Everything influences a child. And God wants. From the moment you. Stand there before him. Something to be. Developed. Nurtured. Related. That will bring children up. In a godly way.

That will make them know God. And love God. And fear God. He seeks from your union. Godly seed. Godly children. Literally in the Hebrew. From this union. I seek godly children. That's why the covenant.

Was established. You may say for other reasons. Of purity. Integrity. Companionship. It's not good. You know two are better than one. No brother. Your children. Bypass that. You've missed the mark. The other things have a reason.

Have a wonderful place. But this is it. Therefore. Take heed to your spirit. You husbands that deal with your wife. Treacherously. God doesn't play the fool with words. And there's people sitting here tonight that are guilty.

Sitting with a Bible. Don't doubt that. There's a lot of children that don't doubt that. As they sit beside their parents. Therefore take heed to your spirit. That none deal treacherously. Against the wife of his youth.

For the Lord. The God of Israel said. That he hateth putting away. He hateth divorce. I hate things in this world. With no sin attached. Because God has a perfect hatred. For these things also. And God hateth.

If a man and woman resort. And cannot survive. And cannot seek him for grace. To overcome their problems. Divorce. Why? Why does he hate divorce? For his name not to be marred. By the unsaved. No. For you now to have to bear the scar of divorce.

And the shame and the humiliation. And a ruined testimony for the rest of your life. No. Because of the children. In the context. The whole context. Because of what's going to happen. To what we wanted from you.

You won't be able to do now. That's the context. And that's the faithful way of preaching. A passage.

Husbands and Wives Under the Lordship of Christ

In the New Testament. In Ephesians. Chapter 5. Staggering book. You want to read it. From the first verse to the last. Five times. On your knees. Prayfully. Your life will. Be. Transformed. Beyond. Comprehension.

By the fifth time. Even if you are a teenager. You want to take God's word seriously. So. It's this book that changes you. By the spirit of God. This book changes you to the degree God wants to. In this world.

But now Ephesians. Chapter 5. Verse 22. Wives. Strangely begins with the wives. Have you noticed that? When it comes to sacrifices. Concerning the marriage working out. God's way. Wives. Submit yourselves.

Unto your own husbands. As unto the Lord. Now that's beyond comprehension for me. As if you were doing it to Jesus. Now that is. Something. Most women in the world today would not accept. Even if God said it.

They will never ever stoop to this. This is stooping. From human dignity. But God said it. And it's a tremendous thing God's asking of you. For some reason. He asks the woman. To do that which will bring harmony in the home.

Be in subjection. He doesn't ask the man. I think simply because men. Haven't got that grace. So don't think it's because you're the weaker vessel woman. Or that God wants to see you trampled upon. There's nothing in God's heart of that.

He reveres you. In asking this of you woman. That your testimony can be saved. Your marriage can be saved. And your children won't be sent to hell. Because there's always fighting. So he asks you. To bring peace.

By not fighting back. At great cost sometimes. To just submit. And he knows you can do it. Because he made you woman. He made you. Able to do it. If you seek his grace. Verse 25. Husbands. Love your wives.

Oh that's a staggering word. Love. Your wives. Even as Christ. Also loved the church. And gave himself for it. Now I don't know anywhere in the whole bible. That God asks for such a sacrifice. That God demands such a sacrifice.

I want you to think. Even as Christ loved the church. Don't love just as best as you can. Love. Just as Christ. Loved the whole world. That which eventually became his. Of the world. And gave himself.

Look at the cross. Without looking at the cross. You couldn't even begin to. Perceive what depth there is in God's love. You won't even be able to begin to understand. Within a billion miles. What God means by his love for the world.

But look at the cross long enough. And you will weep. You will weep. And he says to the husbands. I want you to love her in a way. That you are willing to die for her. For her well being. Not one day brother.

Not once a year brother. In every circumstance brother. That your children especially know it. Because if they don't know it. You are defying God. And they will know it. Without you having to give your life literally.

They will know it. You would die for this woman. Her well being. And that's what God asks of you husbands. To the degree you can submit yourselves. To God's control by the Holy Spirit. Which is what it means to be filled with the Spirit.

Control to the degree you allow God to control you. He will give you that grace ladies. He will give you that grace sir. Outside of that you can't love like that. So don't even try. Without yielding to God.

The wonderful thing about Christianity. Is not a set of rules. It's yielding. I have not come to destroy the law or the prophets. But to fulfill it. How? By you yielding. And I'll spontaneously fulfill the law and the prophets.

Without any effort of your own. Just spontaneously. No matter how trying the circumstances. To the degree you are yielded. Christ lives out his life to you through the Holy Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit.

The evidence. The Holy Spirit is in control of you. Is Christ. Love suffereth long. All of that is Christ. The fruit. The fruit. Only God can do that through you. That's why this word love is agape. It's not human love.

It's a love to the degree you allow God to live his life through you. Husbands love your wives. Even as Christ loved the church. Chapter 6. Children. Children. Obey your parents. Obey your parents. In the Lord.

For this is right. God says. God says. Honor thy father and mother. Don't just obey them. Honor them. The way you obey them. Honor thy father and mother. Which is the first commandment with promise. That it may be well with thee.

And that thou mayest live long on the earth. My mother. Is 88 years old. My mother has been spared by God to have a clear mind. And to be so meaningful to everybody she knows on this earth that they love and revere her.

Could you please stop that noise? Somehow. My mother. When her mother was killed in an accident. She was a young woman. But her father's mind just went. He couldn't survive mentally when his wife was taken.

My mother was the one who said. He comes to the house with us. I'll take care of him. And she washed my grandfather. She washed the floors of his excrement. As weak as her little body was. She lifted him.

He lay on the floor. This big man. Six foot four. But I never heard my mother as a boy. I never heard her once belittle him. Or shame him. Or be angry with him. There was nothing but honour. Love. Respect.

No words left her lips. But kindness. Though she was on her knees. Aching sometimes to help him. Because I was too small. Father was away at times. When finally my grandfather would be admitted into her home.

The last two weeks of his life when they forced her to let her father go. It nearly killed my mother. But she couldn't care for him. I can give you many reasons why my mother has reached the age of 88 where most of her family is dead.

And those that are living are not very healthy. Or suffering, putting it mildly. But my mother is so meaningful. With such a mind intact. No senility. So loved. So revered. That whole churches acknowledge her.

Whole churches would stand in reverence. She is so loved by so many. And her sons. I don't think of the day her sons do not thank God from the depth of their hearts for such a mother. And for sparing her because she is so meaningful as she was today on the phone to me from the other side of the world.

Her integrity, her wisdom, her faith, her love. Not every mother sees that in life. Old age and in her old age love. Love and reverence. And respect. Children you obey your parents. This is the first promise with commandment that it may be well.

The one thing I can attribute as to why God has given my mother such longevity and such meaningfulness to this day is the way she honored her father and mother. As few children I've ever heard of or witnessed.

No matter what the cost. And ye fathers, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Provoke not your children to wrath. Don't break their spirit, father, through your discipline that you say scriptural, that you train them up and beat them with a rod.

Should you save a soul from hell, sir? Whatever discipline you give that child, if it doesn't hurt you more in your heart and conscience, if it doesn't hurt you more than it's hurting that child whether it's a word or a hand, you sin.

You sin. You sin against God and that child. You'll break his spirit. I believe in discipline. But I believe it's Christ through you. Bringing them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord has let God bring him up through you.

So yielded to God that by the Holy Spirit, God literally raises that child for you. Because your life is yielded and wanting God's mind in every circumstance, no matter what goes on with that child. Proverbs 18 verse 14 says the spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity, his weaknesses.

Any weakness he has physically in any way in life. The weaknesses he has in life. The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity, but a wounded spirit, a wounded spirit, who can bear that which God placed into our lives that he calls the spirit of a man?

God says will sustain, will make you face up to life and hardships and difficulties. You will survive. But then God says a staggering thing. If something happens to that which God gave you to be able to survive, if it's broken, that spirit, something happens in life that breaks that spirit, that wounds that spirit.

How will a man survive? God asks. How will a woman survive if that happens? Can that happen? Can that happen? What would cause a person to be wounded, to be broken? The spirit God gave for survival to just not be able to function that they cannot face life.

They just cannot face it anymore. They lost that which God gave them that he calls the spirit a person has. There are, of course, many reasons, many reasons in this cruel world that could do such damage to a life.

But tonight I would like to look at our homes because most people are wounded, are destroyed by their own families. On this earth I'd like to look at our children, our children, and many of you are children, teenagers and smaller.

And there's none of you that aren't children if your parents aren't still alive, even if you're gray. At what point do you stop honoring your parents? In this book. Oh, how many parents I have met whose children were the calamity, the destruction, the cause of undermining and even breaking down their parents' spirit, destroying their ability to survive as humans.

Children’s Choices and the Spiritual Burden on Parents

What causes one child in the same home to become a grief and another from the same home to be a joy always to its parents? I want to repeat that. What causes one child to become a grief and in the same home another child to give nothing but joy to that parent?

Being born into a godly home does not necessarily mean that a child will choose to be godly. I need to repeat that for you young people. Being born into a godly home does not necessarily mean that a child will choose to be godly or that the parents will not have deep concern, continual concern about their children's spiritual well-being.

Job was the godliest man on earth in his generation according to God and in the end the devil had nothing to say. He just fled insane. Job was the godliest man but being the godliest man acknowledged by God and Satan that there's no man like him.

No man like him. Perfect. Upright. No one on earth is perfect and upright as this. Fear of God hates evil, assures evil. God said to this man but this man continually, continually, continually brought all his children, his sons and his daughters and in earnest, earnest, earnest concern he slaughtered animals, the blood that he was not conscious at that point was pointing to the blood that God was looking at would be slain by the Lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world but he slaughtered what God says because without the shedding of blood there's no forgiveness of sins, no remission of sins.

Now he slaughtered these animals again and again and again and what did he say as he did it? It may be it may be and he cried out this in front of all his children and looking at them as he looked at them slaughtering, making these sacrifices.

It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts that man was earnest. Being the godliest man on earth does not mean that you will not have deep concern in this wicked world for your children's spiritual well-being that you will not have to be in warfare and prayer and looking to God in mercy in case there's something going on that the devil has implanted in their hearts that they're busy with and they're going to break out somewhere along the line.

Being the godliest man and godliest woman on this earth. Godliest parents according to God's estimate does not take away that concern. The more godly you are the more concerned you are that something could happen the more you are in prayer earnest, grievous prayer that your children know you're praying in case the devil's put a little seed God undo it.

I have ministered in many places over the last 38 years and I've become fearful at how many children from the godliest homes choose to reject the God of their father and mother in a most cruel and staggering way, even if they bring that home to shame even if they destroy the happiness of that home forever, I am staggered how many homes of the godly throughout this world there are such children the devil manages to reach.

We read in Proverbs 19 verse 13 a foolish son is the calamity of his father. Now the Hebrew says the ru-nation the ruin literally the ruin of your father. You that's all the devil needed. Was you if you're a foolish son God says God says a foolish son is the calamity, the ruin of his father.

Proverbs 10 verse 1, a wise son maketh a glad father, tell me is your father a glad man because of you. You you, your life. A wise son maketh a glad father but a foolish son is the heaviness of his mother.

The literal Hebrew is the grief, the grief of his mother are you. Are you. In Proverbs 30 verse 11 there is a generation that curses their father and doth not bless their mother, I think that's this generation more than ever before in history.

Just come around with me get a suitcase for a year or two and you won't argue. There's a generation that curses their father and doth not bless their mother. But Proverbs 20 verse 20 warns whoso curses his father or his mother his lamp shall be put to a darkness.

God warns I fear what will happen at some point when I see a child cursing his father and mother. His lamp shall be put out, God says in obscure darkness, don't expect happiness child you've destroyed your own life if you curse your father and mother forever.

Proverbs 19 verse 26 he that wasteth his father terrible, you can waste what God meant a father to be, you can waste that privilege, he that wasteth his father and chaseth away his mother pushes her out of your life, you don't want her influence.

It's my life, I don't interfere anymore. Leave me. He that wasteth his father God says and chaseth away his mother is a son that causeth shame and bringeth reproach, God says in 1 Samuel 2 verse 12 we read that the sons of Eli were sons of Belial, they knew not the Lord, is that written across you by God in heaven in the records the sons of this were sons of the devil.

They served the devil. Belial was just one of the satanic religions but Satanist today wouldn't go very much less of the evils Belial did. The sons of Eli were sons of Belial, this godly man's sons were evil they knew not the Lord.

Verse 22, now Eli heard Eli heard that his sons did. Don't think your father won't hear one day young man young lady, don't think they won't find out, the devil will make sure at a point it explodes in their face that they will just crumble.

He doesn't hide things, but he allows you to hide for a while. He just wants to hurt far more than your soul. You don't know who you're going to hurt and destroy soon. Eli heard of all that his sons did, verse 23 and he said unto them why, why do ye such things why do you such things, oh beloved Eli isn't the only God-fearing father to eventually look at his children in shock and shame and fear and cry out in grief, why why he wasn't the only father, oh how tragically Eli's life and ministry ended.

Beloved this godly man shamed by his sons shamed throughout the whole nation though he was chosen by God. He died in a tragic way through the shock of the repercussions of his sons evil lives. God had to replace his ministry swiftly with young Samuel amazing they destroyed their father, they killed their father without a knife their lives he just died in shock in the end of what their lives caused, the repercussions of it in that land.

The Consequences of Rebellion in a Preacher’s Family

I was preaching in a church here in America a number of years ago which was so large and so revered and that pulpit, men like Bill Gothard of the ATI IBLP, homeschooling and all that he does. Bill Gothard said among many, if I had a church to choose a pulpit that I could choose to sit under I would choose that church that man's preaching to have the privilege of sitting Sunday by Sunday a man was very revered to have such men of that caliber and status saying such a thing of his ministry.

And that church was a wonderful privilege for me to stand in and preach to this overflowing auditorium. But then something tragic happened. I arrived there one year. I preached there numbers of times on the tour, the tours I have of America and that man had left the pulpit, revered above most preachers in America by the godliest preachers.

He had gone back to work in secular work because two of his sons wanted the devil chose to feast at the devil's tables rather than the tables of God the things God holds out for us to feed on, no they wanted to feed on what the devil holds out at his tables in his houses.

There's always the free will. There's always the free will no matter how godly your parents are, this man was so shamed, so grieved, so broken, he left the pulpit of God one of the most revered pulpits in this land's history because of his ability to expound the scriptures.

When I arrived there that man had an overall a working clothes, a little packet with sandwiches and walked down to the factory daily for nine, ten hours a day, no more preaching, no more serving God in a capacity where he had the right, well of course I was shaken and I said we should we should sit with this man to the other pastors, they had many other pastors, six I think in this massive complex so we went to a meal, he said listen I only have one hour for lunch in my factory.

It would have to be a restaurant very close to the factory that I can get there, have a meal and get back within the hour. I'm a working man in secular work. Now we sat there, these pieces and there was this man sitting there in his restaurant and I looked at him broken, he was broken and I said to him brother if nine of your children of the nine, seven of them follow God the way they are, and two rebel two of them have this of their free will they're going through a moment now and God is going to have to sort them out through your prayers and patience, but brother it doesn't mean if the rest of your children are all serving God with fear that you have to get off the pulpit what percentage of the preachers of this world would have to leave the pulpit if at some stage any of their children begin to rebel before they make a true commitment to Christ of their own free will.