Dead Men Walking Podcast: Living Off The Grid, Anticipating God's Justice,& Proper Beard Maintenance

Hey everybody. You know I'm taking guitar lessons right now. Are you? Oh yeah,

I'm gonna be able to do that in two weeks. Yeah, you should, you would be able to do that in two weeks because it's a pretty simple...

Oh no, that would take me two years. I'm not taking guitar lessons. I'm sure there's people out there going, gosh, this is just...

The only thing that I was thinking during that time was, whenever you come up with an intro, it's gotta be, you know, it's nothing intricate.

Right. It's nothing like, you know, like that's gonna mess with your emotions. This is just something that's gonna get you into whatever you're getting to.

Right. You know? Right. Like, I mean, think about The Price is Right. You know, bah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

Is that The Price is Right? I don't know. That's a good jingle though. I really think that's, that was, that was the, that's the

I Dream of Jeannie. Oh my gosh. Oh wait, Price is Right is... You know,

Price is Right. I went with it, dude. I don't know. I was like, yeah, it sounds like it. Wait, what's the da, da, da, da, da...

No, what is Price is Right? I don't know. I mean, we just have the da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

I don't know what The Price is Right is. I have no idea. Someone... I just see all the lights and stuff.

I don't just see the big wheel. I don't know what The Price is Right is. I don't know. Somebody call us right now.

No, we're not live. There's no way for... No, that's a, that's a great debate though for a theology podcast.

What is The Price is Right? Yeah, literally,

I feel like we have dead air because I'm trying to think of it right now because it's bugging me. Yeah, yeah.

But, you know, whenever you think of it... I hear, come on down! Right, right. So then what happens after that? It says, so -and -so from wherever, come on down, and it's...

It's just 70s, like, orchestration stuff. It's not really...

Sorry guys, we got nothing. Yeah, but I mean, think about it. Like, whenever you hear an intro, it's not, and you know, it's like, show me the...

What's that? Who is that?

Is that... Who's the boss? What was... Who's the boss? I wasn't really allowed to watch...

Oh, you weren't allowed to watch... Who's the boss? No, I don't know that one. Tony Danza. The Dan Man.

Oh, yeah, Tony Danza. I just saw him on an interview, like, a week ago. That's funny that you...

You remember when he had that show? Didn't he have a talk show? Yeah, he had a talk show for, like, a week. Yeah, yeah.

It was terrible. What about this one? Maybe we should make this our intro song. Okay. Oh, yeah!

This makes me want to dance. I don't know what that's from.

That'll get some YouTube... Copyright laws against us. No, I think it's public domain, which we did.

We did on our 100 episode, the little five -minute clip I uploaded. We're at 100 by NF, who's a rapper.

We did get a copyright warning on it. Oh, man. I said, hey, we don't know, but it is copyrighted.

Did you get permission? I was like, no, I didn't. So now I gotta... You gotta edit that out? No, they didn't take it down.

They didn't take it down yet. They just gave us a warning. Oh, man. They gave us a warning on the COVID... Oh, that's great. The cookie stuff, too. Oh, cookies.

Oh, dang it. We always say that word on here, but it's really hard not to. I mean, but whatever.

Is that nuts that we're living in that day of age where I literally have to go censor what I'm saying right now?

Well, it's the same thing as like you're at somebody's house or you're at church or you're in the supermarket and you sneeze and you gotta look over at the person that's closest to you.

Don't worry. I'm okay. It was a sunlight. I look at the sun. It's light sensitive inside.

Yeah. There's nothing that I really need to say. I don't need to justify why I just sneezed, but I feel like there's something inside of me whenever I do something like that now.

There was. So I posted a meme on our Instagram site, which by the way, if you guys want to follow on Instagram, Dead Men Walking Podcast.

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So go follow us there. But on our Instagram page, it was, uh, it was like nine different Spiderman's all pointing at themselves.

It was like influenza, COVID, Delta, Omicron. Like we don't know what it is. I said, it's, it's confusing out there, y 'all, you know?

And some guy was like, can't even sneeze, man. That was his comment on Instagram. And I was like, so true.

He knows what's up. Can't even sneeze in public, man. I mean, you know, it's like you got, you got, uh, a new one that that's showing up right now.

I guess there's what, there's the moronic another, uh, yeah. Well, not the

Omicron, but there's like, there's another one. Yeah. There's like another, Oh, uh, half flu, half

COVID, right? Flu, half COVID. Yeah. Fluovid. Is that what they're calling it? I have no idea.

But, uh, yeah, that, uh, my brother -in -law just sent, sent me a post. It was, uh, here,

I got it right here. It's Alex S Y Felix. It was like, I can't even sneeze.

So thank you for your comment. Right. We feel the same way. Jason feels the same way. Well, yeah, but I mean, you know, whenever I sneeze, it, uh, gets on my beard.

That's the worst part, but your beard is so big. Do you do why? Thank you for noticing.

Uh, it's just huge. It's like bushy. It's big. Greg, my eyes are up here.

No, stop looking at my beard. No, I mean like that. That's the, that's the hardest part about having a beard.

I mean, you, I mean, you get into this too. I mean, it's, it's hard, you know, when you're a little,

I mean, you learn how to eat with a fork whenever you have a really big mustache or really big beard.

Can you do, can you do a real quick, can you do cereal? Well with a beard or no, you get, you get the doubles. Uh, oh yeah.

I never knew with a napkin. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. One bite. Yep. Exactly. Wipe. Yep. Eat, wipe, eat, wipe.

You're not the only one. Exactly, dude. Awesome. I kept thinking that it was my spoon. Like I needed new spoons.

This spoon is a hole in it. Honey, what did you do? Where'd you buy these spoons?

These spoons must be the cheap ones. She's like, you're a caveman. It's not the spoon. You don't know how to shovel food into your mouth properly.

Oh my gosh, man. I've been considering possibly cutting it down, but I don't know, man.

It's like, yeah, it's, it's one of the, that's a really big decision. Every time

I'm like, man, maybe I should just cut it down a little bit. I'll get the, I'll get the, the razor out or the, the, the, the scissors or hair trimmers.

And I'm just like, I'll just go ahead and cut a little bit off, you know? And it's like, no. So wait, are you, are you thinking of taking everything off?

No, no, no. I would, I would never shave totally down unless I had to, for some reason, but.

Swimming competition. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, man,

I, I have no intentions of ever shaving, shaving ever again, but you know, it's just, it's just,

I mean, just like maybe like an inch, you know, maybe like, maybe take, take it down to about an inch, you know, or something like that.

But yeah, man, I mean, you know, I mean, you're rocking, I don't know. Yeah, this is a pretty, pretty good size one.

This has been growing. I don't even know the last time I got one cut, got it cut though. I mean, okay. Do you want to know how

I trim my beard when I know it's time to trim? What's that? I wear the same jacket almost every day when

I'm out. And when I start zipping my beard up into my jacket, I go, all right, time to take off a few inches.

But for you, you have to look professional. See, it's like when I'm, when I'm at home, I mean,

I'm, I'm just, I trade stock. So I'm at home. You're just in front of your computer like a mad scientist. Your beard is all crazy.

Yeah, yeah. My wife is like, can you just please take a shower today? Just please just take a shower.

No, I'm joking. I'm not that bad. She walks in with lunch. You just look up beard, wild eyes. You're like,

I'm waiting for the tip honey. Doritos on the side of my mouth. I'm like, Oh my gosh, Doritos.

I wonder if they have a stock. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you make all your financial decisions.

Exactly. What you're into. I look, I look around the room. I'm like, Oh yeah. Samsung. Samsung. Oh my gosh.

Samsung. I feel like Subway. What's their stock doing? Man, I, we used to eat

Subway a lot on the road and I got to a point where I was like, I cannot have any more of this whatsoever.

But man, you know what was really good on the road at Subway was the veggie delight.

I'm just going to throw that out there. Okay. Just a little bit of a tip. Anybody else out there that wants to have one? No. Well, if you put oil, the, the salt, you know, you're going to have to defend your manhood.

But I'm just saying, if you want to have something different, we talked about salad bars at one point on this.

You're a male feminist. Okay. All right. Veggie delight. Easy. Great. But yeah, man, the, the veggie delight, if you have a chance, go ahead and have that and then have a steak with it on the side.

Okay. There we go. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. What was that?

That was like a seal. I don't know what that was. I was trying to sound like a Tim Allen, you know, from home.

We're showing our generation. Everyone's like Tim Allen. I was like, three. Okay. That's manly.

Then have some blubber. Oh man. So only an inch.

That's good. I mean, you've got a reputation and a look. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Your, your, your mini fans have come to love your beard.

Yeah. They're both, you know, locally and abroad and especially dead men walking. I don't know if I could sit next to a co -host with a totally shaven face, right?

Unless he had a sweet mustache. I'd be all right. Oh, if you had a cool handlebar or like a, you know, something with the wax, you know,

I mean, that's, I look at those guys and I go, okay, I get it. You know, your mustache is your beard. There's a guy at our church.

Have you seen him? He does the, he does the loop de loo on the sides. Yeah. Yeah.

Is that too official? All people who are into mustaches right now are like, but what's sweet though?

He like, he's like the door guy, you know, like he holds the door open whenever you walk in and he's got sweet, a sweet mustache.

I'm like, yes, you are representing. I love that. You just referred to a church greeter as a door guy.

He's a door guy. You know, I throw my coat at him. There'll be a five spot in it for you, sir. If it comes back on time, when

I get out of service, exactly. Yeah. Right. Hey, park it around back.

I throw my keys. I'm like, what? Oh no. Oh man. Did you go to this church?

They have door guys. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a Seinfeld episode. You're a stall man.

You just go to the bathroom. You're like, where's the mint guy? I just actually,

I always, you know, what's hilarious. I'm not going to say anything crude. Don't worry. Um, but, uh,

I always run into our pastor in the bathroom like every time, every time, like we're washing our hands at the same time.

It's really crazy. Cause it's usually during the sermon. Yeah. Yeah. Aren't you supposed to be? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

What are you doing? But let me tell you something. What you said in John four, three, six.

Um, uh, I didn't agree. No, you're like checking his, uh, references. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Exactly. If you just have a moment. Hey, uh, next service. Uh, don't say that.

Okay. Cause it's not true. No, I'm just, uh, love you, Nate. Okay.

So you're not shaving when you said you were shaving your beard to me. Yeah. I thought you meant down to the skin.

I wasn't happy with that. I got it. We think, uh,

Claude Ramsey would probably yell at me as well. You know, from the, here I stand podcast brother.

What a good guy. Yeah. Uh, that's a, that's another one back on the round table that we had. That was a good one. Um, but, uh, yeah.

So what is going on right now with the world? First of all, uh, no,

I just, so here, I just got a text from, from a brother in the Lord, you know, him. I don't know if he wants to be mentioned in the podcast, but we both know him and it was just a really heartfelt text.

And he was just like, guys, I just feel like so depressed right now with what's going on in the world.

Like when is justice going to come? Like, when are these bureaucrats and these people who, uh,

Lord over us that have no sense of justice, no sense of right and wrong notes, you know, all hypocrites, like, when are we just going to see something, you know?

And, you know, I said, I sent him a little encouraging word. I didn't want to get into eschatology right then. You know,

I think we might be different on our eschatology. And I think that has a lot to do with the outlook, but I even felt feel this way.

Sometimes my wife has always said like wisdom and discernment is such a two edged sword because once the

Lord, um, you know, blesses you with that wisdom and discernment, you kind of become like an

Ecclesiastes. You kind of see the world for what it is. And you go, Lord, come quickly, like serve your justice.

There's so much injustice, so much sin, so much evil, you know?

Um, and I say so much. I do believe Christ is ruling and reigning. I do believe that, um, he has the victory and he will serve as justice.

But sometimes I was talking to you, Jason, like, I feel like sometimes, especially being in real estate, like I want to go get a good deal on a hundred acres and go set up a compound dude.

Um, and then I know that's not the great commission. That's not what I'm called to, um, just to hide, to stick my head in the sand.

But there is something to where I love the idea of being self -sufficient, you know?

And I know you feel that way a little bit too. You do things to where, you know, we've talked before about how you budget and eat natural and, and like really try to find homegrown foods and vegetables and stuff like that.

And I've kind of been that way, like for the sick, for like the last six months, um, I got a guy coming out in a few weeks to look at, um, my building to see what

I would need to do to even just be wired in with solar. Like what could I do to maybe have something that's a little off grid or at least, at least producing my own energy, um, looking into stuff like chickens and obviously we already have a garden and things like that.

But I, I was just thinking like, is it wise for Christians to think that way? I know like the secular world just goes,

Oh, you're a prepper. You're a crazy person. If you do anything that's when I say even off grid has like a pejorative kind of connotation to it in the secular world.

Oh, I'm off grid. Oh, you're one of those crazy. But it's like, we've only been in, you're never off grid, man.

You got a phone. Yeah, that's true. You gotta pay property taxes. Even if I'm fully off grid,

I got to go into the municipality twice a year and pay my taxes. Come and hunt me down and throw me in prison. But that's a whole nother story.

Um, but I mean, have you ever had those thoughts of like, do I need to get a little more just outside of the system?

Like we both rely on like wifi and internet and all that stuff because we have businesses that do that.

But it's like, wouldn't it be kind of cool to be a little less connected sometimes? I've thought about moving to Moscow, Idaho for sure.

They don't have as many jobs as you guys think they have out there. Hey, I read this on the website.

I'm not supposed to come out here with a job, but Doug, do you need someone to trade for you?

I'd like to join your church. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but no, yeah, man, for sure. I mean, that's, that's something that, uh, you know,

I think it was, uh, Dale Partridge just put up a post that said something like three things that Christians will be doing more often soon is homeschooling.

Yes. Um, uh, home. What was it? I'm sorry. Homesteading maybe.

Yeah. He did. That was the third one. Okay. But there was, there was like three points, man.

I wish I had it right now, but, uh, I would sound really cool. Um, but yeah, the last one was homesteading and Oh, home churches.

Duh. Dale Partridge. Home church, homeschooling, home church and homesteading.

He knows how to write a headline. Exactly. Yeah. Right. Right. But that right there is exactly where we're headed.

I mean, I really think, uh, people are getting tired of worrying about what's in their food.

Uh, sorry. I just hit the microphone. Um, gotta keep the street going every episode. Now everybody's worried about what's in their food.

Everybody's worried about, uh, you know, maybe what the school is teaching their kids. Um, in that when they go in to fight it, they get arrested, you know, or, or they, you know, they're told,

Oh, you're nuts. And we're going to go ahead and tell your kids about X, Y, and Z. Right. Even though that's not the things that you want them to know about.

Um, you know, I, I think that there's a lot of things that's going to come up soon. Um, but what you're talking about sustainability and, uh, you know, uh, living off the grid and, and living off of, uh, your own land.

I mean, that is something I really think it started, uh, coming, making a comeback maybe within the past 20 years.

Yeah. Um, I don't know if it's been going, I'm sure it's been going longer than that. Maybe that's 20 years ago was when it kind of started to get more in the, uh, in my, my mainstream or whatever that I started noticing, but man,

I really would love to do that as well. I mean, having a huge garden, having, having chickens, like you're talking about, you know, having fresh eggs, we get fresh eggs from a friend, um, every week.

And those eggs are so good. Yeah. So good.

Once you get like free range organic eggs, you can't go back to the $2 a dozen ones. No man, not at all.

But this isn't like, this is like straight from the ground where they just had the egg.

They put it in the milk or in the, in the milk, they put it in the egg carton.

Yeah. They bring, she brings it to us and we eat it. You know, it's like, it's our farm eggs.

I have to wash the hay and yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. We have to do the same. Absolutely love it. So that's the thing too, is like,

I was really thinking about this. And for any, anyone who's kind of interested in it too, like, it feels like such a big jump when you say off the grid,

Oh my gosh, I got to do all this stuff. And it's like, you can really, now I just bumped the mic. So you can really, when you think about it, you can do some small things that really can start propelling you to be a little more self -sufficient, right?

Like the very first thing, if you have any amount of land and even if you live in a building, you can do like rooftop stuff, like start at least growing your own vegetables, like get in there and get your tomatoes, your jalapenos, your lettuce, your spinach, all those things that are very healthy anyway.

That's one way to if you live, you know, you can basically be totally self -sufficient on less than an acre.

Even if you have like a half an acre in a semi -rural area, like we're looking into chicken coops and chickens right now.

And we have lots of friends that have those. We're not in a super rural area out here. I mean,

I'm semi -rural. I'm like, you know, do you have to have a, any kind of permit to do that with chickens?

Are you asking if I need to ask permission of a government on my own property to feed my family?

I'm going to let you answer that. What do you think my answer is going to be to that? You're going to say, yes, no, the government does.

Here's a little plug to Trump, whether you like him or not. He redid the right to farm act in 2017 and basically said, look it, there's no state or local ordinance that can override your right to, to, to grow food and to have animals on your land.

So under federal legislation, now each state can try to say, oh no, or each local municipality can try to write an ordinance.

And I've had those arguments with, with locals here that try to write an ordinance. Oh, you get, can't have chickens within so many feet.

Sorry. That's just not the way it works. It's your land. It's your right. But when, if you're in a semi -rural area, as long as you don't have a rooster and they're not, you know, crowing and you don't, you don't even know they're there.

I showed a half a million dollar property last year in a very upscale subdivision where each plot was 0 .09

acres. So if any, if you think of just like a really small subdivision plot, walked in the backyard, backyard was maybe 40 feet by 60 feet.

Okay. And there's a little building there and it's a little two, not full two story, but almost like double -decker small building.

And it was a chicken coop and they roosted, you know, upstairs, in the upper level, walked around in the day.

You would never know they're there. You had a neighbor that was 20 foot away on the other side of the fence line. End up talking to the seller and they're like,

Oh, we've had them for five years. No one even knows what's in there. They're super quiet. We just make sure, you know, chickens come home to roost, come in at night.

And he goes, yeah, we get, you know, about two dozen eggs a week out of six or maybe a dozen eggs a week, out of four or five chickens.

And it just supplements. So like sustainability, you got to realize we've only really been in this mode of like, we have to rely on stores, rely on electricity, rely on distribution and Amazon, like the last 50 years for the first two, the last 10 years for the last one.

All it is, is it's a little minor convenience is what we rely on. And it's like, you could do solar for very cheap.

You can do chickens, or if you got an acre even, do small animals, goats and cows are a little bit more work because they eat so much, but pigs are very easy.

You know, goats, sheep, mutton, lamb, stuff like that. And you're like, you could do it.

This is why I get so fired up about it because like, I can do it for a pretty reasonable cost and not a whole lot of work and at least be 80 % of the way there.

Isn't that our society though, like having something that sustain, you know, sustainability, it's not a fast, hey, you know,

I need this now. Like I need it right now. I want some tomatoes. Go to the store, you know, or the meat that you're talking about, right?

Like having a cow, you know, how good a cow that has just been cut up.

I'm sorry, anybody out there that doesn't want to hear about that, but I'm not sorry. You know, like, I love meat.

We've been given dominion over the animals. I'm sorry. I love it. But you also lose because of the convenience of our society.

We have lost how much sweeter that vegetable tastes that you harvested from a seed all summer long.

And Proverbs talks about it. Deuteronomy talks about the sweetness of the harvest, right?

Meaning not just the fact that the actual tomato is sweet or the actual apple that you grew from your apple tree.

Tastes good. But it's the fact that you put the work and time into it. You reap what you sowed.

You put the blood, sweat, and tears. Well, the sweat and tears, maybe not blood into it. Well, maybe blood if you cut your fingers, you know, into that fruit or that animal that you raised or whatever it is.

We've lost the proverb satisfaction of actually reaping what we sow.

There's a biblical principle in that. I always tell people, you know, I grew up pretty, you know, without, not a lot, probably, you know, poor, but my grandmother always made sure my brother and I had like a big new gift at Christmas, right?

And usually like every other year, it was like a new bike. Oh my gosh. To us, that's a car when you're a kid.

Oh, whoa, it's a BMX bike, right? Could never afford that. When I was 15, and you want to know what?

We had those bikes. We loved them, but I would leave it outside. It got stolen by the neighborhood kid once.

My dad went and tracked him down, got it back. It got rusted quick because he'd leave it out in the rain, right?

When I was 13, I saved up my money and bought my own mountain bike. Guess how well

I treated that bike. It was like I was washing it. It was always inside. Why? Because I had worked for it.

It hadn't been given to me. Now I wasn't saying that I didn't appreciate the gift that a grandmother or someone had given me for Christmas.

I appreciate it, but not nearly as much what I had worked for. And let me tell you something, you self -raise meat or a vegetable or work for something.

It's that much sweeter when you eat it or share it. Think about, hey, I raised this with my own two hands.

I put my blood, sweat, and tears into it. Jason, I want to have your family over and we want to have a community dinner.

And this is everything that I've worked for. And I'm sharing my labor with you. There's something there that is so sweet and so biblical.

And we've lost that now that we walk down the aisle of a grocery store like an 18th century king.

Like, I'll have some lamb, I'll have some salmon, I'll have some grapes, I'll have some cheese, some crab legs, right?

We don't work for it anymore. And there's something that's lost in that. And I think there's something biblical, a biblical principle that's lost there to where we don't appreciate it.

Yeah, we say, thank you, Lord, for this food and thank you for providing it and the means that were necessary.

But it's like when you toil for something. And I'm getting so drawn to that idea again.

I just keep thinking about it over the last six months. Like, gosh, I would love to go,

I raised that. I grew that. I can share that with my friends and family, my brothers and sisters in the

Lord when they come over for the Lord's Day Supper and we partake in it together. There's something there that's like kind of enticing about that, you know, like there's something attractive.

Right. You know, I've been bringing Elon Musk up. No, no, no, no.

I've been bringing Elon Musk up a lot in our podcast. Elon Musk podcast.

So look, so I don't know how true this is or not, but it's really cool.

Okay. Supposedly, he sold every house that he owned. Okay. Okay.

Sold everything that he owned. Well, every house, I'm sorry, every house that he owns. And supposedly, for a little while, he was homeless, even while being the richest person in the world.

And he ended up building just a one room home now.

Right now? Yeah. Like a one room, you know, very minimal.

How big is the room? Right, right, right. 150 ,000 square foot. You wonder. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I heard.

And again, you guys can fact check me. I can't remember. I really wish

I had the story in front of me and where I found it and whatnot, and if it's true and blah, blah, blah. But I guess he ended up buying and making and building a home that was like 50 ,000 or $100 ,000.

And, you know, I think a lot of times, our society tells us that bigger is better.

Like, you got to have all this stuff. You got to have, like, you know, a mansion on a hill.

I mean, you know, you got to have, I don't know, whatever. And it's like, you don't really need all these things, you know?

And I am, yeah, I will admit, I am a minimalist, for sure. Like, I mean, not to the extent where, like,

I only own, like, 20 pieces of something. But, you know,

I am, what I own is things more or less that I need.

And I only keep things that I really need, like my Major League Baseball collection.

But, you know, the things that are going to be worth money in the future. But no, but all

I'm saying is, like, it's like there is this thing that is programmed into all of us growing up.

And it's like, if you don't have, you know, a home that is, you know, the size of whatever, you know, the biggest house on the block, you haven't made it.

You don't have the nice car. You haven't made it. You don't have, you know, all the amenities. You're not going on all these vacations.

Everybody on Facebook is, you know, having the best life ever.

But then, you know, you're only getting a few snapshots of what their life is really like. Dude, that's so doctored.

And it's, yeah. Facebook is a lie. Yeah, exactly. Instagram's a lie. What we're talking about is sustainability and being able to take care of your family, being able to take care of your home.

And so, but yeah, it looks like you found it. Take a look at this here. Elon Musk has claimed home is a humble $50 ,000 house.

He's reportedly living in an Austin mansion. Now, here's the thing. You got to realize, okay, let's get off this crazy website, this

Forbes website that's asking me to buy for 10 things. Elon Musk is primary residence, a simple home worth $50 ,000.

He's renting from SpaceX near a spaceport in Texas, but the eccentric billionaire is actually living in a luxury mansion in Austin owned by his wealthy friend,

Ken Howery, according to Wall Street Journal. Now, here's the thing. This is the day and age we live in, okay?

Six months ago, I might have believed that, that Wall Street Journal research.

Actually, no. I wouldn't have, I probably would still doubted it, but not as much as the, have you seen the gaslighting that has come out against Elon Musk just because he goes, build back better with Joe Biden's plan?

No, get rid of the whole thing. We don't need it. It comes out with, oh, we don't need college. Get rid of it. He is going so anti -leftist right now, so anti -progressive.

There's been a coordinated campaign against his character. And it's like, wait a minute. He was the darling of the left just two years ago.

He was like, hey, we're going to space. Hey, we believe in all this, you know, energy and green energy and climate change.

And because he even had something like just a few months ago, he came out and said, yeah, there's nothing we can do about climate change.

We have to keep consuming oil. It's just not probable. The thing is, is we just need to have alternatives.

I'm not saying we just go all to electric or all to solar. It's like, we're going to be using oil until the day this human race is extinct.

And that got everyone upset. And it's so crazy how quick the agenda driven leftists will turn on you.

So I read something like that and I go, is this, this is kind of a weird hit piece where it's like, oh yeah, he's living in a 50 ,000.

He's got a lease on it. Oh, but some guy from the wall street looked into it and said, he's living in a mansion in Austin.

And it's like when he did Joe Rogan a couple last year, he did fly into Austin. He had to fly into Austin.

He wasn't living in Austin. Right. Right. Yeah. I I'm pretty sure he wasn't at that time, but yeah. Whenever they move the factory to Austin, um, out, out of, uh,

California, you know, he, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's just, I mean, one of those things, it, it just make it, it gets your wheels turning for sure.

I mean, it, it makes my, my, my head spin a little bit, you know, you're cause you're thinking to yourself like, like if I had, if I had what he had, right.

Like, like the money and I, I, I'm, I'm pretty sure that I would do things differently, you know, um, possibly, um, you know, because of my worldview.

Uh, and I don't know everything about Elon Musk, but that is just so cool to think about someone who could have whatever.

And he's like, no, man, I just got a $50 ,000 house and I'm just, you know, doing my thing, you know?

And it's like, yeah, that's exactly how people should be like, why, why does it always have to be chase the

Joneses? I got the $600 ,000 house, you know, I got the, the hundred thousand dollar car and blah, blah, blah.

That's the difference between rich and wealthy. Okay. There's a, there, there is a way of thinking between rich and wealthy, like that's

Warren Buffett. He lives in the same 80 or $120 ,000 house. He's lived in since drives the same

Buick from the eighties or nineties or whatever. Um, that's why when they interviewed Jeff Bezos back when he was worth 6 billion, just in the days when he was only worth 6 billion, there's a famous clip out there where they're driving in a 1998.

This is in 1999, 1990, or maybe earlier than 1996. I think it is Honda Accord.

And the guy goes, aren't you worth 6 billion? He goes, yeah. He goes, the reason I'm asking is because what's with this car. And he goes, well, it's a perfectly good car.

So here's a guy who back then was in 1999, Jeff Bezos was worth 6 billion and he's driving around in, you know, then a 12 or $13 ,000 car.

This is the thing, man. Uh, yes, there's a difference between rich and wealthy.

The wealthy realize there's no difference between rich and poor when it comes down to how long am

I going to live? How much good can I do? What really makes me happy? Right. The rich, rich is almost the middle stage of where you still are believing the illusion that a whole bunch of money is going to change the way you feel, interact with people, react to people think, right.

Yep. The believer, the Christian understands the true Christian understands that all those things are an illusion, right?

It's nice to have it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If God blesses me with Solomon was rich. Yeah. By all accounts,

David was rich by all accounts. Paul was very well off before he, uh, before the

Lord knocked him off his beast. Yeah. Then he became a tent maker and was actually most scholars believe made really good money making tents.

That was kind of like, it was kind of like a home builder back then. Right. He was cranking out tents left and right for 14 years before he, you know, met with the brothers in the

Lord and said, Hey, I think I'm a disciple. So, I mean, there's nothing wrong with money. Uh, in particularly the love of money is the root of all evil, not money, but the love of it.

But it's like, I feel like the, the Uber wealthy get to a point and they realize, Oh my gosh,

Ecclesiastes was right. It makes no difference. There's nothing, there's nothing new under the sun. It all doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter that there's some that are righteous that die young. There's some that are wicked that live to an ripe old age.

Like ultimately it's the sovereignty of God and his Providence. Yeah. Oh, wow. I need to, you know?

Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I could totally believe someone like an Elon Musk, just like a

Warren Buffett going. Yeah. If I've got, if I got running water and shelter and food, when

I need it in clothes, clothes on my back, what more do I really need? I'm cool with living in a 50 because he's following a passion.

Yeah. Yeah. Not to make this whole podcast about Elon Musk, but it's like, he's following an interesting guy for sure.

And I mean, he's out there a lot right now. Yeah. It is a passion. He's he's making rockets and he didn't even go to school.

Could you, could you imagine if the Lord just revealed himself to him and he just became like. Yeah. Like saved, like reformed, like.

You know what was really, really funny? I was watching the interview with.

An Elon Musk documentary. Lex Friedman. Yeah. His Lex Friedman podcast. I was watching on YouTube and he did say something about Elon Musk said something about their first mission rocket sending up into outer space with people on it.

He was like, I'm not a religious man, but I did get on my knees that day and prayed to God. And I was just like, yeah, because the truth is written on your heart.

Oh, no, absolutely. But you know, it's like, yeah, even

Elon Musk knows like he, like everyone knows, even though they're like, I don't believe there's a

God or. But right. Always. I believe in science.

Yeah. Right. And he says, I got on my knees and I submitted myself to something higher than myself because he understood.

Yeah. That's such a good point. Yeah. And I think here's the thing. The Bible says there's all these journeys to that, right?

Some are saved. Some aren't. Some realize that some don't, but at the very end of the day, every single knee will bow.

Every single person will find out. Oh, for sure. Right. God is not into cliffhangers.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. He isn't into part twos and part threes. He's going every single person that's ever lived is going to find out there is a

God that is just, that is righteous, that is holy. And they're going to go. Yep. My knee is going to bow to you because I have to.

I mean, that's a really humbling thing to think. And I believe that, you know, you get a lot of people from the other side of the political aisle or leftists or progressives or secularists or atheists that say, oh,

Christianity is so either exclusive or wants to not inclusive in certain people.

And it's like, no, Christianity takes us all to that same level and says, oh no, the

Elon Musks and the Jason homeless person with syphilis and the

Jason Hamlin and the Greg Moore, we are all going to bow before a holy and righteous King one day. Yeah.

We're all the same. It's true. We're all image bearers of God, but we're all sinners. Yeah. I mean, that's for me in a world like we're in right now.

I don't know. I find solace in that. Yeah. I look at that and I go, I love an Elon Musk. I love what he's doing with technology. But at the, at the end of the day,

I want him to repent and be saved because at the end of the day, we're all sinners and we're all rebels against God, you know?

Right. Amen. Yeah. No, that's good. That's probably a good bookend right there. Yeah. You want to, should we finish it up?

You know, we got into a little bit of the beard. We got into a little bit of the, uh, got a little bit of Elon Musk.

We should see if we can mention Elon Musk at least one episode for at least seven or eight episodes. It's really hard because he's out there a lot right now.

Like he does interviews all the time. He's a really interesting person and it's a really interesting example.

You know, just like with the one I just said. Yeah. Plus in your business, you're in that tech space. I mean, you're looking at it.

You're looking at all the things that surround that. I mean, the NASDAQ follows that. That's what makes the NASDAQ run is tech companies.

Yeah, man. Tech tech makes the NASDAQ run. So guys, thanks so much, uh, for listening to, uh, this podcast today, tonight, whenever you're listening to it, you know, maybe it's in the morning, like Jason likes to think, he likes to think we're maybe a morning show for at least one person out there going to work.

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