Saved In Childbearing — Duane Troyer

Amen. God moves in a mysterious way his wonders to perform. I just want to greet everybody in Jesus' name. Thankful, thankful to be here with you. Thankful for everybody that's here. Let's Let's stand for a word of prayer.

Oh God in heaven. We thank you For another day their opportunity to be here for all your love and all your mercies to us and for your ways that are mysterious and beyond our comprehension and yet beautiful and perfect and good.

We pray Lord that you would give us the courage and the ability to Submit Submit to you and all these ways and I just pray Lord that you would help us as we Look into your word that you would bless. Bless this message guide my thoughts help us to seek truth and peace and to pursue it As if our life depends on it and we Just ask that you would give us ears to hear hearts to understand in Jesus name.

Amen if you look around creation and observe and observe its Mind-boggling Diversity. And all its different functions. And how it all how it all functions together. How how everything in the whole ecosystem and not just in the whole ecosystem but Even even Smaller than that each each creature and their individual parts.

How it all how it all functions together harmoniously. It it speaks of a a great Wonderful creator. Did you ever wonder If if it works that way because God made it or If God made it that way because that's how it works.

Have you ever just like wondered in some of these things like that? Did God just know? What works and Therefore he spoke it that way and created it that way or or could he have done it some other way and just because he Made it.

It works. It's it's along the same lines of the discussion. We've had sometimes is like what Jesus preached. Is it true because Jesus preached it or did Jesus preach it because it's the truth. It's. It's maybe a well, anyway, I'll go on with my message here and Sometimes when I wonder about those things like I can't I'm left I'm left a bit mysterious.

I find it a bit mysterious. I'm not sure. But in everything in everything that has multiple parts That function as a whole whether it's whether it's God's it's it's it's a God-created ecosystem or it's our body or even a even a man-made mechanism there's always major parts That immediately catch our attention.

They immediately seem like the big and important parts. They're they're noticeable at at first appearance. But. But but those bigger parts are completely helpless. Without some lesser parts that are not as noticeable that make them work and those lesser parts Though they get some attention and some importance and some recognition and some honor they they don't work at all if they're not Made to work by even some less noticeable parts.

It's it's the way of. It's the way of creation. It's the way of our body. It's the way of machinery. And so it is in the kingdom of God and the church Paul Paul made mention of this in Corinthians Where he says.

But now God has placed the members each one of them in the body. Just as he desired if they were all one member, where would be that? Where would the body be? But now There are many members but one body in the eye cannot see say to the hand I have no need of you or again the head to the feet.

I have no need of you. On the contrary it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary and Those members of the body which we deem less honorable on those We bestow more abundant honor in in Ephesians.

Paul says that that God has placed in the church Apostles and prophets and evangelists and pastors and teachers. These these we could see as maybe some of these these main parts quickly noticeable Receive great honor.

They they seem to be they seem to be the. You know the backbone and the arms and the legs. They are the they seem to be that. And they receive. They receive the greatest recognition, but what I want to talk about today is a type of people Who have an extremely important function in the body and yet They go without great recognition or honor.

Their duty is service. Their work often becomes drudgery. It's behind the scenes. From within the church and even scripture. They almost seem under mentioned and from without they're despised. By some they're pitied as victims.

When they act foolishly they receive full blame. When they act wise the honor is often passed to someone else. If you haven't caught on yet, they make up about half of the body. It's the sisters women who have found and contently accept this lowly position.

That the all-wise God created for them and that's chiefly who I want to talk to today and encourage. The Woman Was made for the man and not the man for the woman Paul says Her her contributions and service are invaluable.

They are priceless. But who gets the honor? The man the husband. Is it fair? The world doesn't sure doesn't think so. But I don't think it's a big mistake. And it and though it's certainly true that ungodly men have taken advantage of this and made it an ugly thing I think there's possibly some some divine.

How be it mysterious? Wisdom behind this behind this design. You know it Deborah in the old in the Old Testament there is a story and judges About Deborah she was a great God-fearing woman and and and.

You know so much so that when when when Barak was asked to go fight a battle He said I'm not going unless you go with me. He was sure that if Deborah went with him then God would be with them, that's how that's how great this woman was.

But by the time the Hebrew writer writes about this who gets mentioned Barak Deborah's name is missing. Mary she had the highest honor that any woman could have she gave birth to the Savior of the world.

There's no. I don't think there's a higher honor that a woman could have. But when they track the genealogy of Jesus whose whose record do they follow Joseph. He and and they call him isn't he the carpenter's son.

Joseph gets the honor. He didn't even have any he didn't even have any physical contribute contribution to his to his birth and yet Mary Was his she belonged to him and Joseph gets the honor in Proverbs 30 woman 31 where it describes these attributes of the virtuous woman this God-fearing woman.

This all these great things that a woman does a virtuous woman does and who gets the honor? Her husband at the gate gets the honor. Is it fair? It hardly seems like it and yet that's precisely what God made the woman for as a man's helper.

To make him great and to bring him honor. I don't know if it works this way at all in all societies, but the society I come from where there's there's kind of a great network of people that know Genealogies and like if someone comes up and asks a man wants to figure out who a man is.

His first question will be who's your father? Oh, yeah, and and he was the father of so-and-so and and finally he might ask him like who's your wife? But if a man comes up and asks a wife who he is the first question is Who's your husband?

Oh? Yeah, so and so and so and then finally maybe they'll be like and you were this you you were the daughter of so-and-so I Just I just used to notice that and I don't I Don't think that's wrong. There's there's an element.

There's an element of this Concept this this this principle that I want to talk about today. There's an element of this principle in all of God's creation. I think I think nearly all of God's creation shows something of this thing that that just Hardly seems fair and yet yet God made it this way there's in in all of God's creation that has life and Reproduction there's there's a male and there's a female.

I Want to be sensitive about this. But but I want I want to explain some things that that are going to lead me to a peculiar verse in the New Testament. In Nature whether it's mammals birds reptiles fish insects and maybe in some cases plants.

There's the male there's there's the male species and the female species. They reproduce and the female always bears the sorrow and the pain of bearing young and giving birth. While the male is admired for his size and beauty the farmer has cows.

And all these cows they they he they they carry young they give birth. He milks him twice a day. He gives him a short break and they birth again and he milks him again. And and yet when when someone comes when some when someone comes.

Who's Interested to the builder sees the sees this wonderful herd that he has and and wants to build a herd like this. What's his question? What kind of bull do you use. You must have you must have real good genetics like you must have real good sires or hens.

They they lay eggs day after day after day. They go through the pain of laying an egg and then week after week. They sit on this clutch of eggs and then they hatch out and they they guard this brood and they do all these things.

What's the rooster doing? He's just strutting around crowing and drawing all kinds of attention to himself. Without without like. More description you just kind of see this. You see this kind of pattern in what God?

And what God created? And and when you go back to the beginning. When Adam was still alone without Eve all these animals went in front of him. Male and female and they went in front of him and he gave him all names.

But there was no companion for Adam there was nobody there there was nothing like what he just saw for himself and so and so God caused him to sleep. And he and he made a woman and he brought it to her and it says She is his helper.

She made him to help she made her to help him if that wasn't humble and lowly enough. After the woman was deceived and transgressed and gave to Adam so that he transgressed. There was a sentence given to her.

It says I will greatly multiply your pain and your groanings and in pain you shall bring forth children. Your recourse will be to your husband and he shall rule over you if I could re reword that to To give it the meaning.

I think he's trying to say here. Says your lot is going to be full of sorrow and pain. You'll endure all the physical and emotional pain and sorrow that goes with the position of being the one bearing offspring.

You're under the authority of your husband. Your desire shall be to rule over him, but he shall rule over you. The man also has his hardships. There was a there was a curse given to him and it says cursed is the ground.

In your labors in toil you shall eat from it all the days of your life both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth. For you and you shall eat the herb of the field in the sweat of your face. You shall eat bread.

Till you return to the ground from which you were taken. Though though the word hands is not mentioned here we see we see that in this curse. This is your lot Adam. You're gonna you're gonna be pulling thistles.

You're gonna be whacking thorns. You're gonna be grabbing hoes. You're gonna be tilling the ground. You're gonna be wiping the sweat off your brow. You're gonna You're gonna be using your hands to carve out your.

You're living out of this cursed earth. Now with those thoughts in mind, let's turn to first Timothy To and I'll start reading in verse 8. Therefore I want men in every place to pray lifting up holy hands without wrath and dissension.

Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing. Modestly and discreetly not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments but rather by means of good works as is proper for women making a claim to godliness a Woman must quietly receive instructions with entire submissiveness.

But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created and then Eve and it was not Adam who was deceived. But the woman being deceived fell into the transgression and here's a peculiar verse.

But women will be preserved Through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint. And the King James's says but women Will be bet will be saved in childbearing.

If they continue in faith and charity, I think it says in holiness and sobriety. So I want to look at this passage a little bit. Let's go back To verse 8 but because it says therefore let's go even back a little further in verse 4.

It says Who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of truth? Okay, this is this is what what Paul is saying that God wants He wants all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of truth.

And then he says for there is one God and one mediator also between God and man the man Jesus Christ Who gave himself as a ransom for all the testimony given at the proper time for this I appoint for this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle.

I am telling you the truth I am NOT lying as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth therefore I Want the men every place? to pray lifting up holy hands without wrath or dissension, I I Think I think there could possibly be different Ways of interpreting this that are all that could be legitimate, but I think but the thing that was impressed on me as I was as I was thinking about that is that We we as men we have we accept the position that God has given us we This this this curse that was given us where we have to work and we have to use our hands and we have to carve Out our living we accept that we accept that position without wrath and without doubting.

Like we we're willing to lift up. Holy hands blameless hands to you. We we accept this When it says without wrath that he I think I think we should be doing this without having any anger or indignation for this lot that we have.

When it says without doubting according to Strong's the word means like without discussion or without debate We accept this. We accept this without without debate without Without stumbling over this position we accept this and we lift up blameless hands in it we're not disputing or doubtful about about how God created this and Then how do the women?

Express this same thing. How do they express this same acceptance of the position that they have been given? It's by according to what Paul says here by proper clothing by modesty by discretion by good works quietness Submission.

These are all things that Paul men Mentions here and he ends up by saying this she shall be saved in childbearing If they continue in faith and charity and holiness and sobriety. What does this mean saved in childbearing?

I'm sure without even trying to look I'm sure there's a whole host of opinions and I didn't I Didn't go track down everybody's opinion about the order a lot of opinions about this but I'm sure I'm sure we can safely Safely Say that it does not mean that if a woman has children if a woman bears children that she's saved and I'm really sure that we can safely say that If a woman has no children she can't be saved.

And I'm real sure of that Other scriptures bear that out God. God honors and commends singlehood. There there's a prophecy that Jesus gave maybe it was for for a certain time. I can't tell for sure but he says blessed are the Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore.

I Think this statement that that that Paul says here applies to all women whether they're unmarried and single Sisters whether they're mothers with children whether they're wives who can't have biological children or whether they're widows.

It says you will be saved in not from You will be saved in this lowly humble disregarded unesteemed honor lacking position of the child bearer. And then he he closes it off beautifully by saying you will be saved in or through.

Depending which translation you use in that in or through that position if You do this in faith love holiness sobriety and sobriety when you sisters Find your fulfillment and joy of the Lord within this position.

It speaks volumes. Without a single word. It's a loud statement to a crooked world. This world is always striving About position. It's it's always clashing and it's always fighting about. Who's the boss?

Who's in charge? Whose job it is to keep the home whose job it is to raise the children whose job it is to make the income. They clash over equal rights over whose last name they should use and in our day.

This has all degenerated to such an extreme and such a perversion and confusion. That they strive over what pronouns to use what restrooms to use which gender gets pregnant and which gender runs the workforce but we As the people of God have a settled position about this.

We have we have settled that what God Ordered is good. Hmm we're not disputing it. Perhaps there's a mystery that we don't understand fully. But we don't think that it's ugly we don't think that it's oppressive.

In fact, we think it's beautiful. God is not against beauty. He made women beautiful. But there's something different between beauty and sensuality. Tertullian as he was describing this he said it's because we are not Captivated by the same graces which the Gentiles think to be graces.

Perhaps we can't always pinpoint exactly what it is. What makes this difference, but when we see it, we know it. Like Like some of the terms used abroad modesty is a term and it's broad. It doesn't tell us for sure whether whether That's a dress or whether it's some other modest clothing and I think it can vary from culture to culture from place to place.

I Maybe I'll share this. I Once heard Matthew Melioni say something. I Thought was pretty interesting. On on a case for why in this culture Our women should wear dresses. Though though though in the world like I don't know the majority I would say of women as they go about their days do not wear dresses and Yet we still live in a culture in which when whenever whenever this occasion arouses for a woman to show her femininity whether it's a wedding an Anniversary like in the world a wedding an anniversary a dance or or whatever.

The occasion would be that the woman would want to show her femininity. What does she wear? She wears a dress. We are not ashamed that women accept their place of femininity. But we know we also know that we can't just like pinpoint it.

Well, then it's a dress. We've all seen plenty of women in dresses that were far from modest. But we know it when we see it, you know the one the one. When we think it when when we see it, it's it's sensuality.

It's extravagance. It's boldness. It's luxury. It's fearless and and when when we see the other. We think of discretion simplicity. Modesty quietness good works wisdom and the fear of the Lord. Clement of Rome wrote let us instruct our young men in the lesson of the fear of God.

Let us guide our women toward that which is good. Let them show forth their lovely disposition in purity. Let them prove their sincere affection in gentleness. Let them make manifest their moderation of their tongue through their silence.

Let them show their love not in factuous preferences, but without partiality toward all them that fear God in holiness. Sisters your position is priceless. Your unnoticed service is of great importance.

You're kind of like the thumb the thumb of your hand. Of a hand it's it's just a small part, but it gives the rest of the hand Almost all its ability without it. We're severely crippled and We seldom think about it.

Until it's lost. There's a battle for truth in life and sisters are no less engaged in it. And they are no less important in the outcome of it. Humanity's whole purpose is to bring glory to God and in this Men and women are equal.

But how they glorify him is different. We see this principle in in the first Corinthians 11 passage where it talks about covering the head. A Man should not cover his head. He is the glory of God. The woman should cover her glory.

Is that fair? The world sure doesn't think so. Why did God create it this way. Does it work because he created it? Or did he create it this way because it works. It may be a bit of a mystery, but we know it's good with everything that God created.

We can say behold it was good. Though you're not recognized as one of those that spread the gospel that preached the word That furthered the kingdom that disciple the Saints you make it possible in many unnoticed ways.

In Luke chapter 8 he starts in by saying soon afterwards, he began going around from one city and village to the other that's talking about Jesus and Proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God and the twelve were with him and also some women Who had been healed of evil spirits and sicknesses?

Mary who was called Magdalene from whom seven demons had gone out and Joanna the wife of Kooza chooza, I'm not sure Herod Stewart and Susanna and many others who were contributing to their support out of their private means.

It's just it's just a couple little verses in there. It's almost hidden. We gloss over it, but just just think about that here here was Jesus and the Apostles. They were in the spotlight the whole world was coming to hear them they were bringing their sick.

They were they were they were wanting all kinds of blessings from them. They're the ones who were receiving all the honor. But who was making it possible. It mentions a few of this woman and then it says others who were out of their private means supporting them.

You keep going you keep preaching you keep healing you keep spreading this kingdom. Well, we'll make sure you have food. We'll make sure you get shoes. We'll make sure you have clothes out of their own means some of this it's possible that it was a widow that the one says Joanna the wife of This man Herod Stewart.

I don't know if she still had a husband or Perhaps if he was Herod Stewart, maybe he Kicked her out if she was following Christ, I don't know. But but but but women from various walks of life were were pouring themselves in to this to this.

To this Jesus and his Apostles. They were women who followed him to the cross. They were women who followed him to the sepulcher. They were women who announced his resurrection. There were women in that church's first prayer meeting.

That we read about in Acts. By the way, I think that prayer meeting lasted ten days. I'm not quite sure but it is Longer than I've ever sat in a prayer meeting for sure. Clement of Alexandria wrote. Accordingly, he says in a letter.

Have we not a right to take about with us a wife that is a sister? I think this is he's quoting Paul. Like the other Apostles but the latter in accordance with their particular ministry devoted themselves to preaching without any distraction and took their wives with them and Not as women with whom they had marriage relations.

But as sisters that they might be their fellow ministers in dealing with housewives. It was through them that the Lord's teaching penetrated also the women's quarters without any scandal being aroused.

I think what he's saying there is like Peter Peter and the other Apostles who were married. They took their wives with them and and it was the wives who who who Shared some some things about the gospel to the to the to the women in the women's quarters so that nothing scandals.

No, no evil appearance. No scandalous Accusation could come out of there. These women all stayed within their God-given position. Yet with a faithfulness endurance and With love they followed Jesus and were wholly devoted.

There in Proverbs 31 It says favor is deceitful and beauty is vain. But a woman that fears the Lord she shall be praised. A woman that fears the Lord she shall be praised a fear of the Lord that doesn't allow her to come out from that position and And a fear of the Lord that keeps on pleasing God in that position.

In the 1600s there was a there was a group in Scotland that was called the Covenanters and they were. They were particularly disturbed that the king of England should be called the head of the church.

One of their leaders was John Knox and he had a daughter who followed this teaching of his. And this daughter ended up marrying a man named John Welsh who also went about preaching the gospel there in England and Scotland and but they they refused to call the king of England the head of the church and so this John Welsh was arrested and he was kept in a extremely damp miserable dungeon in southern France for years.

He was kept there and he would he would write he would write letters that his wife would receive. But but by all appearances He was stuck there and he was gonna die there and his wife went to King James to appeal for him and In her appeal she said could you?

Sorry. Said could you at least? Transfer him to a prison in England. That's not quite as harsh. Not quite as miserable. And in King James said sure I can do that. Just get him to say that the king of England is the head of the church.

The story is that she lifted up her apron and said I'd rather have his head in my apron. And I have him say that a woman that fears the Lord She shall be praised. There's so many ways that sisters can minister Dorcas.

Who I take to be a single sister. She did it by sewing all kinds of things for busy mothers and widows. The older women. In Titus are instructed to teach the young women to love their husbands to love their children and to be keepers at home.

And then there's the obvious teaching your own children, I think I think even with a even with a father's participation sometimes we underestimate the The powerful influence of a mother. Even though the children often don't really like her as much as the father it's not that uncommon.

It's just not that uncommon that they just. Maybe I should not say they don't like her as much they just. They're the young children. They're with her day in day out and and when they're real young they like her better.

But but you know dad comes home and he gets covered with hugs and kisses and all kinds of you know appreciation and and. The mama just seldom gets that and yet her influence. It's an it's it's a position that's often drudgery.

And Papa gets the honor. Is it fair? I don't know, but it's the way God made it. Mm-hmm. Timothy was Had a really sincere faith Paul said and he was a young elder. He was a young leader in the church and it was directly contributed to the faith of his mother Eunice.

And that directly contributed to the faith of her grandmother Lois. And the Walter read out of the wisdom of Sirach. I'm gonna read a couple verses here out of 26 chapter 26. It says a wife's grace will delight her husband and her skill will put fat on his bones.

A silent wife is a gift from the Lord and there is nothing worth as much as a disciplined soul. A Modest wife is blessed blessing upon blessing and there is no scale adequate to weigh a self-controlled soul.

Like the Sun rising in the Lord's heaven is the beauty of a good wife in the ordering of her house. Like a lamp shining on the Holy Lamp stand is the beauty of a countenance in the prime of life. Beautiful feet with a steady heart are like golden pillars on a silver base.

I Want to wrap things up here and to the men? I'd like to say what Peter said in first Peter 3 7. He says you husbands in the same way live with your wives in an understanding way as With someone weaker since she is a woman and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life.

So that your prayers will not be hindered. I think in King James. It says dwell with them in knowledge. We have knowledge. We are we are men. We are not. We are not beasts we are not bulls and roosters.

We have knowledge and we need to honor them. They are fellow recipients of the curse. They are likewise fellow heirs of grace. I'm gonna read a quote here. I Slightly modified it. They are designed not only to gratify us But also to fix in us all the kind and sociable affections.

They were not meant to be the slaves of our arbitrary wills in our brutal moments. But sweet companions of our most reasonable hours and exalted enjoyment. Heaven was has endowed them with that peculiar warmth of affection that disinterested friendship of heart that melting sympathy of soul and that entertaining Sprightliness of imagination joined with all the sentimental ability of mind that tend to humanize the rough nature.

Open the reserved heart and polish the rugged temper that would otherwise make men the dread and abhorrence of each other. And to the sisters I Would like to say embrace this childbearing position in spite of the drudgery.

The lowliness The lack of honor. Continue in it in faith and love and holiness. Whatever your husband is called to whether it's a Just to use the biblical term they're an apostle a prophet evangelist a teacher.

Or or just a messenger or or or whatever whatever all the offices and and and I Don't even like that offices, but all the all the all the duties that the men have. Whatever your husband is called to make him a great one Be his helper make him excel Great Will be your honor in the world to come.

You know when when I think about the principle that we see through scripture where Jesus talked about this a lot now. I was kind of looking for maybe some Proverbs to talk about this, too and I I'm sure there are some but like how the The servant Jesus said the servant is the greatest of all.

He said he you know, he that takes the low seat will be invited to the high seat. That that whole that whole that whole principle that whole concept if I think about that Who whose position when they accept it is?

Is a of the of the most? Lowly of servanthood work, it's it's the women and I have this I have this I guess I just want to encourage you like though though you think. Though you though you think you don't get the honor.

There's there is a day of reckoning coming and I I just have this idea that perhaps Perhaps in the throne of heaven or in the kingdom of heaven in the ultimate Restoration of all things that there will be many many women Who have gained themselves a seat?

Very very close to the throne. If if it's if it's if that's how it works thrown in seats you get that idea sometimes. As Paul said those members that seem weaker are of great necessity. Did God create it this way because it works or does it work this way because God created it?

I don't know but it's very good. Why don't we give thanks Father we thank you for all your ways that are wonderful. We pray Lord. That we could accept the position that you've created us for help us as men to lift holy hands without wrath or doubting and help the sisters To find their position and to be saved in this childbearing position and help them to continue in faith and love and holiness and sobriety.

May you add your blessings in Jesus name.

Yeah, that was a blessing. Um, I think Tell me what you think doing it. It's that last part that you mentioned. I I think that's what it means What is this Galatians? 328 well, I'll start in 27 as many as you as many of you as Have been baptized into Christ to put on Christ.

There was neither Jew nor Greek neither bond nor free there's neither male nor female for you all are all one in Christ like I I Guess I've had the imagination that In heaven or the or the afterlife a new heaven or new earth, however, you want to say it that That that that element won't exist Between male between male and female like it the I just have the idea maybe that those rules won't be there where women are supposed to be quiet and and that I Think I took You stirred up a lot of thoughts and ideas.

And I don't I don't want to share all of them because it it's pretty kind of close remember I was telling you about them David census and I thought I do it's really tied in I thought with that. Oh, maybe I want to give a message on David census and some of the principles were pretty Pretty closely related here.

So I went um, I Would I would one thing I would say I was like I would have been hoping that That the sons and daughters would have also been listening To that. I mean I I was if they if if it didn't occur to the young men here that All those principles apply in your home like I almost wished Dwayne had maybe said young men listen these principles apply to you and young ladies, too, but There's a there's a beauty a Beauty and being a young man who honors is his parents or his father their father and daughters as well.

I'd say What while in the household, you know young men share a lot of those Beautiful things of working so that Their parents will be honored. Um, I Mean you said the you're given the analogy that talking about the animals and you said the roosters out there strutting and I just You know made that just just because we realize this this principle in in God's creation and in the relationship between a man and a woman like May it never be that that we would that men men of God would take that for granted And make it make assumptions Be unthankful or bossy or something like something like that.

Like what a precious like Like what like God gave Adam a human to be his helper. Like like a human humans are the best things on earth right and that God gave has given men their own Their own human to love and to care for them.

Anyway, it's just it should be it should be like humiliating to a man that that another human it's their job to to help him and to and to bring him glory and wait, I mean we should Not be anything like a strutting a strutting rooster this this beautiful thing of femininity like you can't You said you finally said the word I was thinking the whole time embrace you said it at the end like Like I wish that women of God would embrace like see that it's a beautiful a beautiful role and I'm not just except like at first you said something like accepted I think doing and I I was like no embrace it like it's it's beautiful.

It's what's It's it's a beautiful thing anyway, you can't. A Man can't force women to be feminine like it's something a woman has to want to be and try to be an exercise herself in and a man can't boss or force women into into giving themselves to the men and now I Could see how a woman could get discouraged if If she gives herself to a man who just takes it for granted and struts around and bosses her.

We would you know, we wouldn't want as men, you know, we don't want our wives to get discouraged and if Or your children. I mean all this can it can apply to your children as well like to honor them. Oh, and then maybe Mm-hmm.