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Donald Trump said the Haitins in Springfield, Ohio, are eating cats and dogs and pets. Is he right?
You're listening to Radio Looks Loose and I'm your host Steve Matthews. Thanks for joining me for episode 123. The title of this episode is, Are They Eating the Cats? Of course, if you've watched the news over the last week, you might realize that that's coming from, it's an allusion to something that Donald Trump said in his debate with Kamala Harris this past week that's gotten a ton of press coverage, and we're going to talk a little bit about that here today.
Well, anyway, I wanted to say welcome to the program. I'm sorry I had that kind of a little weird intro there. I was trying to do a live stream on Telegram and I got it to work, but the problem is there's this delay when I do the live stream using these other apps and when I do it on Telegram.
I got to figure out a way to shut down the sound on Telegram so I can do the live stream here without, otherwise you get this echo effect. It's kind of a disaster. So anyway, enough of that stuff. That's just all the little technological things you end up trying to do when you're trying to do live streams.
Anyways, I said, welcome to the program, and I think we got an interesting show here for you tonight. I hope you find this interesting and, well, maybe a little bit educational too, so we'll see as we get into it.
But anyway, I hope everybody's been having a good Saturday today. I know I enjoyed the day. It was a beautiful day here in Southwest Ohio. We had, I don't know, it got to be about 80 or so, but the sun was out and we got low humidity.
I think that's one of the things, you know, really September and October are about the nicest weather that we have all year here. It's still very summer-like in a lot of ways, but you don't have the oppressive humidity.
Of course, the one thing we could use is a little bit of rain. I don't think we've had any appreciable rain now for, I would guess, over a month at this point. I don't remember the last time we had any real rain and everything's just all burned.
Up.
I haven't mowed the grass in the weeks just because it's all turned brown. It's so dry in that out. And yeah, it doesn't look like there's any rain coming either. I mean, it's just nothing, but it's been sunny skies, which is really nice, but you do need some rain every now and then too.
And right now we are pretty dry here in Southwest Ohio. Even with the, you know, there's that hurricane, Hurricane Francine down there in the Gulf. A lot of times those hurricanes will come up. When they come up from the Gulf, they kind of come North and maybe dogleg a little bit over to the East.
And we get a lot of rain sometimes from hurricanes in the Gulf, even though we're a long way from the Gulf of Mexico, that those weather systems affect us. But apparently with this particular storm system, it actually turned and went out to the West, which is kind of unusual.
I don't think that's the normal pattern for hurricanes, but that's what happened here. In fact, all the weathermen, they were saying, well, we're not going to get any rain even from this.
So I don't know.
I don't know what the next time. I guess we'll get rain again at some point, but I don't know when that's going to be happening.
Anyway, I don't know.
Did you catch the debate this last week? I did watch it, at least I kind of watched it. I kind of watched it with one eye, I was working on something else. And yeah, you know, there are a lot of people that are of the opinion that Kamala Harris or Kamala...
I never know how to say her name, Kamala, I really don't. I hear it different ways, that she won the debate, at least in some people's estimation.
Anyway.
You know, the thing with Donald Trump is he likes to come in and wing it. And I don't know if he was doing that in this debate or not. It seems like maybe he kind of was. But anyway, you know, the debate, and this is one of the things that a lot of people have pointed out, is the fact that the moderators were fact-checking him.
So it was basically three-on-one. You had the two moderators that were fact-checking Trump, and then you had Kamala Harris. Now, the thing that's a little bit fishy about that, or the thing that should, maybe the big takeaway from that is, moderators should not be in the middle of a debate.
I mean, moderators are there to moderate, they're there to make sure that the debaters follow the rules, but they're not to inject themselves in the process. I would liken what the moderators did in that debate to, say, for instance, say you're watching a baseball game, and the umpire, when a ball is hit, the umpire fields the ball and throws a runner out.
Well, the umpire is not supposed to be playing the game. The umpire is supposed to be there calling balls and strikes, calling out or safe on the base paths, and in other things, you know, that umpires do to make sure that the rules are followed, that the players are playing according to the rules, but they're not themselves supposed to take place in the game.
Well, it's the same thing with the moderators. The moderators are to make sure that the candidates are following the rules of the debate, but they are not to inject themselves into the debate. They are not to fact-check the debaters.
That's not their job. And of course, they only fact-checked Donald Trump. They didn't fact-check Kamala Harris for anything she said, and she said a lot of things that were very obviously not true, but they were things she was just kind of regurgitating mainstream talking points.
That's what she did. But they didn't fact-check her. Now, I understand that she is best friends with the person who runs ABC News. And, you know, there are a lot of people that speculated that she may have been given the debate questions ahead of time, which I probably, you know, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me.
I don't have any proof of that. But we do know that Hillary Clinton did receive the debate points, the debate questions in the 2016 debate on CNN, I believe it was on CNN that she did. And Donna Brazile, who's some Democrat operative, she was working for CNN at the time, is the one who gave it to her.
I mean, this is all public knowledge. I don't think that anyone would say, well, we had to fact-check you on that. In fact, Donna Brazile lost her job at CNN because of that. So there is a history of the Democrats doing this sort of thing.
And one of the things that they like to say is by any means necessary. So would they do that? Of course, they would do that. I don't know if they did, but in my opinion, at least in just watching them operate over the past few years, I would say that I'd be surprised if they didn't do it.
I mean, my expectation is, yeah, yeah, that they, in fact, did do those things. So anyway, that's an opinion. What else do we have going here this week? I guess not too much else. You know, I thought it was interesting.
There was one of the guys, one of the people I follow at X, who was commenting on this debate. What he said is, you know, he was talking about how, okay, you know, all the deep staters, you know, they got the whole thing set up.
They got the station that they wanted run by Kamala Harris's best friend. They got the moderators to gang up with Kamala on Donald Trump. And you know, they had everything all set up the way they wanted.
And he says, then leave it to Donald Trump to come up with the most iconic line of the whole night. And that's when he made that comment. He says, well, they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the pets of the people who live there.
He was talking about there. He was talking about Springfield, Ohio. And of course, yeah, that immediately caused, you know, just an eruption of objections on the part of the mainstream media. This cannot be.
You know, they're walking around and they're waving their, you know, waving their fact checks in the wind. This is, you know, this is false, et cetera, et cetera. Well, there's been a few days here to go by that people have been able to investigate.
And some interesting things have come to light. That's kind of what I wanted to share with you here. You know, one of the things that I've observed about Donald Trump over the years is he has this way, I mean, it's kind of the sly way of getting people to talk about points that he wants them to talk about.
And that is he'll throw out something that on the surface seems absurd and outrageous and it just outrages, you know, and everybody gets upset and there's all this buzz on the Internet and in the mainstream press, you know, about the stuff that Donald Trump said and how ridiculous it is and this type of thing.
And people get in to start digging into it and they start finding out, you know, there's actually some truth in what he said. This thing that everybody said was just ridiculous, well, you know, maybe he wasn't all wrong about that.
And he has a way of kind of prompting people, I think, by using phrases like this to dig into a story. At least that's my read on the reason why he said things the way that he did. Because one of the things that, of course, the ABC people, in fact, maybe it was even during debate that they came out and they said, well, you know, we've talked to the people in Springfield and they said that there's no evidence of any police reports of people claiming that the Haitian immigrants were eating the cats or eating the pets of the people of Springfield.
A lot of people thought, well, you know, that's kind of just the end of it. But it was interesting, you know, there were some, as I said, there's some people who've done some fact-checking here, or some digging, maybe I should say, and they've come up with some interesting things.
In fact, there was something I was going to play here for you, and I thought I had put everything aside that I wanted to, but maybe I didn't. Sometimes you gotta, you know, there's so much stuff that's going on, it's kind of hard to follow it all.
And you can get a little bit overwhelmed with the amount of information that's out there. I mean, it's good that there's information out there, but, oh, here's something else.
I wanted to find.
Yeah, this is something from the Pope. The Pope's big mad about Donald Trump, and he's talking about how there was The U .S. presidential election, it's a pick between the lesser of two evils, is what he says.
He talks, he complains about Kamala Trump, Kamala Harris, because she's pro-abortion, and then Donald Trump because he's a very bad man, and he doesn't, he's being cruel to migrants. At least that's the charge that Antichrist uses.
So anyway, he says it's between the lesser of two evils for those reasons. And I wanted to, actually, I did want to get that story, I don't know that I included it.
In here.
Let's take a look here. As I said, you kind of get overwhelmed with so much stuff, and I kind of go through this stuff and I think, well, I've got everything all set up, and then I get into the live stream and it's like, oh yeah, I forgot, there's something I wanted to talk about here.
So, well, anyway, I don't see the exact version of the story that I wanted, but yeah, be that as it may, we're just going to go on. The show must go on, or something like that. But I did find a story that does talk about it, so we'll use that.
Anyway, so you just, you got to be able to kind of improvise when you're doing this sort.
Of thing.
That's what live stream's all about, right? So anyway, let's take a look at a few things here, and let's see what we got. The first story I wanted to share here with you, this is, you know, I was talking about how some things have come to light, and this is a piece here from the Post Millennial.
And it's got a headline here, it says, Shocking Video Appears to Show African Migrants Grilling Cats in Ohio Town in 2023. And you go through here, and there's actually a video that was posted by Christopher Rufo.
Now, that's if you follow any kind of conservative or alternate media, independent media on X or online, the name Christopher Rufo might be familiar to you. You may have heard, in fact, if you used to watch Tucker Carlson when Tucker was still on Fox before he got canned, Christopher Rufo was a regular guest on his show, so you may have seen him on there.
But he's a guy that's done a lot of work, anti-DIE work, has become pretty well known. And it says here, I'll just read through some of the story here, it says, Christopher Rufo shared a video that was previously posted to social media on August 25, 2023, so a little bit over a year ago, that appears to show Africans grilling cats in Dayton, Ohio, about a half hour from Springfield, where the recent controversy over Haitian migrants allegedly eating dogs and cats originated.
Quote, we identified a social media post dated August 25, 2023, with a short video depicting what appeared to be two skin cats on top of a blue barbecue, end quote, Rufo reported. The caption on the video read, yo, the Africans wildin' on Parkwood, which Rufo said refers to Parkwood Drive in Dayton.
The video shows two cats walking on the grass near a broken down fence, and a voiceover says there go a cat right there. I'm not going to repeat the rest of it, there's some bad language in there, we'll just, we'll cut that out, but anyway, yeah, the video is posted, it's a post from X that's included in the story here, and if you read through the story, Rufo has a team that helped him research this thing, and he goes, and the story goes on, it says, that source told Rufo that his son was friendly with the neighbors, and there was no doubt about what happened last summer.
They was barbecuing the cat, the source said, going on to explain that his son's mother had previously witnessed the family butchering a mammal on the street, but the cats on the barbecue put him in such a state of shock he felt the need to film it.
Rufo reported that the author of the video, with whom he spoke, preferred to remain anonymous, but he did confirm its time, location, and authenticity. That told Rufo that he filmed the incident when he was picking up his son from his son's mother's home, and he saw what appeared to be cats being grilled by the Africans who lived next door.
It was some Africans that stay right next door to my kid's mother, he said, per Rufo. This African dude next door had a cat on the grill. Rufo's team investigated, checking in with the families who lived in one of the identified apartment units, one of which was from the Democratic Republic of Congo.
That family confirmed there were many other African nationals living in the area. One resident said that previous tenants had a blue grill like the one seen in the video, and that the father of the family would take a knife into the neighborhood to find meat.
The grill had been left behind and Rufo's team was able to see it, confirming that it was the same make and model as that in the video. When there reached a debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Trump brought up concerns that were apparently raised by residents in Springfield, both at city council meetings and elsewhere, that Haitian refugees were eating cats, dogs, and wild Canadian geese, which are protected.
Those migrants came to the U .S. through the Biden-Harris administration's refugee resettlement program and are eligible for full welfare benefits, from food stamps to housing to medical.
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Now, hold that thought about the welfare benefits. We're going to come back to that. But if you go through the article, I mean, it looks like Rufo did a pretty thorough job in investigating this. He actually talked to the guy that filmed the video.
And even some members of his team went to the place where it was filmed. I guess they talked to some people who lived in the apartment complex. And it was interesting that they talked to some people who were from the Democratic Republic of Congo and talked about the family that was grilling the cats, confirmed that there were many other African nationals living in the area.
So we don't know... I don't know if the guy who was grilling the cats was Congolese or not. And I bring that up because I was talking with someone today. And this is going to be an anonymous source. I'm not going to refer, say anything about this person.
But this individual, I can tell you, is in a very good place to know about this. And what he told me is that in Dayton, Ohio, which is just right up the I -75 from Cincinnati where I live, I can be in Dayton in less than an hour from where I live.
And Dayton, Ohio, of course, as you may know, it's the home of the Wright brothers, the inventors of the airplane. They were the first ones to fly heavier aircraft in 1903. So that was just 121 years ago.
That's hard to believe. It's in such a short of time, you think of how far the aviation industry has come. Well, that started right here in Ohio. In fact, my license plate on my car, it says birthplace of aviation.
So we here in Ohio are proud of the Wright brothers.
And I would say justifiably so.
But they came out of Dayton. And anyway, this individual who knows Dayton pretty well, he told me that Dayton is filled with Congolese immigrants, immigrants from the Congo. And he told me about some of the expense that this has imposed upon the city.
One of the things that was kind of a funny thing he told me about that there's a story going around that some woman from the Congo calls into the Dayton police. And apparently a lot of these people don't speak English, so they have to get translators.
On the line.
But this Congolese woman called the police and demanded that the police go over to her husband's girlfriend's house and bring her husband back home. So, you know, that's the kind of stuff you got going on with some of these African immigrants.
They don't speak English. They have strange customs. And you get calls like this to the police and you have to have a translator as well, which he was just talking to me about the enormous cost imposed upon the city for things of that sort.
And this is one of the things we get back to. You hear some of these immigrant advocates, these people who advocate for the current system we have now, they're just out there cheerleading, oh, you know, this is just the greatest thing and it's boosting the gross domestic product of the United States and all of this.
Well, maybe they look at maybe, yeah, okay, maybe some of these immigrants create a certain amount of economic activity, but what about the cost that they impose? I've seen some studies where it's talked about these, not just Congolese immigrants, but just all of the mass third-world immigration that's coming in.
It's costing America $150 billion a year. It may even be costing us more than that. I don't know. And, you know, I don't know everything that those studies include. But I mean, you know, the cost of this type of thing on local governments is enormous.
And it's one of the things that's going on in Springfield as well, and it's going on in Dayton too. You know, one of the other things this source told me is that people in Dayton refer to Springfield as Little Dayton.
If you look at a map of Ohio, you see that Springfield is just a little bit west of Dayton,.
Ohio.
It's kind of due west. It's on I -70. I -70 kind of runs, it's an interstate that runs east-west, runs through Dayton. If you keep going west, it takes you to Indianapolis, and it takes you to, eventually, to St. Louis, Kansas City, that type of thing.
So it's a major east-west highway in the United States, in this part of the country. And Springfield is right along that route, just a little bit to the east of Dayton. Springfield's also the home of Wittenberg University, interestingly enough.
That's a Lutheran liberal arts college, which my grandpa Matthews attended for a year back.
In the day.
I guess that would have probably been in the 1930s. My grandpa, his family, at the time, they lived in Van Wert, Ohio, which is a little bit north and west of Dayton. And yeah, he attended, went to Wittenberg for a year.
So I've got a little bit of family tie there to Springfield. And I've been to Springfield, it's been a long time since I've been there. I used to work as a delivery driver. I remember making a delivery up there, and it used to be a very nice town.
In fact, people were talking about how there was a Newsweek cover story from 1983, and it talked about it being an ideal town. It was just kind of a nice slice of Americana, it was about 60 ,000 people lived there, there was business and industry, and people worked in this type of thing.
And of course, it's been de-industrialized since that time. So much of Ohio has been. People talk about the Rust Belt, right? Well, Ohio is always considered part of the Rust Belt. And I've seen this, I mean, I've seen this here.
I mean, I've seen so much industry in this area just disappear just here in Cincinnati. There used to be, I remember there was a big GM plant in a place called Norwood, which is in the Cincinnati area.
And you go by, there's a stretch of highway, they call it Norwood Lateral. The GM plant sat right on that Norwood Lateral, and you could see the plant on one side, and on the other side, there's a big parking lot where they park all these cars.
And remember, they used to make Camaros there. And that shut down, I guess that goes back, oh goodness, I'd say mid to late 80s. It's been gone for a long time now. There used to be, there's a city in the next county north of Hamilton County, which is where Cincinnati is called Butler County, and the city's called Hamilton.
And it's kind of a funny story about that. They actually, the locals, in fact, even the people that live in Hamilton, a lot of times they call it Hamiltucky because there's so many people from Appalachia have moved up there or historically have moved to Hamilton.
It's really still due to find jobs, find work, that type of thing, especially back in the day when there was a lot of heavy industry. I remember there was a fisher body plant up there when I was a kid, and you'd go by, and it was a great big place.
I remember sometimes going up there, driving through there with dad, and he would go up there to pick up a pizza. There was a pizza place up there we used to go to. And sometimes you'd see the guys getting out of work, they'd walking across the street to some bar across the street.
I mean, it was just the kind of thing, just kind of the old school, American heavy industry, auto industry, this type of thing. And there was all kinds of stuff like that up in Hamilton. And really in Cincinnati, Cincinnati used to be a place where we'd manufacture machine tools.
And it was one of the real hubs of making machine tools. There's a longtime company here called Cincinnati Millicron. It was one of the major manufacturers. They've been part of some conglomerate now.
That name's disappeared. Sadly, it's no longer around, but that was a major name in machine tool production for many, many decades in the United States. And anyway, I guess the reason I'm talking about that is, you know, the de-industrialization is so many of these jobs have been shipped overseas.
And now, if that weren't bad enough, the double whammy of this is that what jobs they couldn't ship overseas, they're importing people from all the four corners of the earth to take the remaining jobs from the American, you know, from American workers.
This is a real problem. We're going to talk a little bit about that. I've got a...I found a post on X that addresses that particular item there. So, I mean, you know, Americans are being double hit. I mean, they're losing their jobs, they're having their jobs shipped overseas, and then they're being replaced in the jobs that do remain.
Now, it's a very serious problem. And you can see this going on all over the place. Now, I wanted to come back to something at the tail end of this one story we just looked at and just read it again. It says, those migrants, talking about the Haitians, those migrants came to the US under the Biden-Harris administration's refugee resettlement program and are eligible for full welfare benefits from food stamps to housing to medical care.
And this article in the Postmillennial, it references, it provides a link to another story here. And I wanted to share this with you as well. The headline on this story, it says, Biden-Harris administration gives billions in benefits to, quote, refugees who enter the country under parole program.
So, let's read through this. And it's got some information I think you might find very interesting. So, here's the story. A refugee program under the Biden-Harris administration that prioritizes Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans for entry into the US also provides billions of monetary benefits to those refugees.
So, billions in monetary benefits, at least welfare benefits. The program known as CHNV. It's called CHNV. Those are just the initials of the country. So, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. That's the CHNV in this program, the CHNV program.
The program known as CHNV is permitted to admit up to 30 ,000 people per month. 30 ,000 people per month. Okay. So, my math tells me that's 360 ,000 people a year. It goes on here, border protection figures show that over 520 ,000 personals from those favored nations use this program to enter and remain in the US between January 2023 and June 2024.
So, about a year and a half period. So, this story, let's see, this was, okay, well, this is September 14th. So, this is actually, it was just put out today. Cut off the presses. And the story continues here.
It says applicants who hail from those nations can gain a sponsor in the US and then fly to the US where they apply for asylum. Those CHNV applicants then have two years to live and work legally in the US.
The program is often called a parole program because applicants either enter the US, apply for asylum, and are then paroled into the US to live and work freely pending a court.
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The administration has also continued to extend temporary protective status for Haitians who illegally entered the US and remain while there was unrest or turmoil in their nation. DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas recently extended that order again.
So, you've got, you know, 360 ,000 people potentially entering the US under this parole program. And for sure here, you know, the Roman Catholic Church is involved in this. I did a little bit of looking into it.
And here's a story. This is from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, and it's titled Welcome Circles. And it says, the Welcome Circles program supports displaced individuals and families through Uniting for Ukraine, You for You, and Process for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans, CHNV programs.
Okay, so see right here, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops is pushing the CHNV program. This is not a conspiracy theory. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops is just straight from their website, just so you know.
The beneficiaries of these programs are admitted into the United States under humanitarian parole, which permits a temporary maximum stay of two years. Beneficiary of these programs must have a US-based sponsor.
Well, you know, you read through this thing, and, you know, they talk about, you know, that the USCCB themselves are not sponsoring people. But it says, while circles continue to form, USCCB is no longer actively recruiting under this program.
If you have a group of five people eager to support a You for You or CHNV beneficiary, please reach out to us so we can connect you with one of our partners. So they're helping foster this stuff. They're helping these people in Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela get hooked up with a sponsor so they can come in as welfare beneficiaries in the United States and run around for two years and have work permits and all this other stuff.
Now, one thing you have to understand here about any of these programs like this, there's nothing temporary about this. There's nothing more permanent than a temporary parole program. Because when two years are up, I guarantee you there's going to be people out there screaming and demanding that this program be extended.
And the same thing with the temporary protected status. Notice here, too, and this is one of the things that I thought was very important about this here, is it makes a distinction between the parole program and the temporary protected status.
So it talks about those in that CHNV parole program that the applicants have two years to live and work legally in the U .S. The program is often called a parole program because the applicants enter the U .S. for asylum and have been paroled in the U .S. to live and work freely pending their court date and, of course, get fabulous cash and prizes from the welfare state.
But then it continues here and it says, the administration has also continued to extend a temporary protected status for Haitians who illegally entered the U .S. and remained there while there was unrest or turmoil in the nation.
So these are people who snuck into the United States. They shouldn't have been here anyway. And then, I guess, because they had that Haitian revolution thing going on about a year ago, the government said, oh, well, you can remain here.
Now, apparently, my understanding is the people in TPS, they're not eligible for the welfare benefits, but the people on parole are eligible for welfare benefits. So when you talk about Springfield, how many of these people are there as a result of the parole program?
How many of them are there as a result of temporary protected status program? I don't know the answer to that. But I think that's certainly something to keep in mind. Now, one thing, and I just realized something else that I wanted to share with you here, and I thought that I saved it, but there was a thing where Tucker, I know what it was.
And this is such a good thing here. I want to make sure, see if we can get this. I want to take a moment because there was something that Tucker Carlson was talking about temporary protected status. Not, it was a few years ago when he was still on Fox News.
And I thought it was such a good comment. I wanted to share that with you here today.
Let's see what we got here.
That's not yet.
See, here's my stuff on temporary protected status. I've used this program called Evernote, which is, it's a web clipper and it lets you save stories. There's no way in the world I could do this, even try to do any of these live streams or do any writing if I didn't have my Evernote.
And what do you know, I can't find it here either. I thought I was going to be able to pick that thing out quickly, but it doesn't look like.
That's going to be the case.
So anyway, but Tucker Carlson was talking about the temporary protected status program and how really the program is designed to fool Americans. I mean, it's something, it's a way to bring people into the United States and the Roman Catholic Church pushes this hard and they say, oh, well, you know, it's temporary.
So they get them into the country. And then when it's time for them to go home, the Roman Catholic Church, they scream bloody murder and they write these op-ed pieces and they're out there and they're saying, oh, it's heartbreaking.
How could they end this program? And one of the things Tucker Carlson said is he said, the way you know that it was never intended to be temporary is all the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes on when somebody actually tries to send these people home.
That's how you know that it's bogus. That is the temporary aspect of it. Let me just see if I can, you know, I had another thought of where this might be. I really wanted to read this word for word for you today.
Apologize for not getting this up here sooner.
So let's see.
Got so much stuff saved on immigration. I really built up quite a dossier on immigration over the years. That's been probably more than any other single one subject. I think I've spent more time on that than anything.
But, you know, I think that that was a wise decision. I really do. I don't regret doing that because I think it's one of the most important, maybe the single most important topic to talk about right now.
And it has been for some time because this is the kind of thing that can destroy nations. And it's very hard to undo once you do it.
And let's see, here's something that I saved.
Yeah, let's go down here. Ah, here we go. Yeah, here we go. OK, bingo.
I think this is it.
Get that, get that up here and take a look at it. OK, so, yeah, this is from this is from 2018. I'm just going to let's I'm just going to play the video.
Why not?
It's got the video on here. And Tucker says it's better than I could. So let's just go with it here.
Let's try it.
And I really can't improve on that. Now, one of the things that I want to mention here, and maybe this is a good way. This is a good segue to to talk about this particular post that I found on X is talking about that very thing that Tucker mentioned there at the end.
You know, he was was talking about how employers were upset because, you know, these people getting sent out and all of a sudden it's like, oh, my goodness, you know, we're going to we can't we can't pay these these low wages to all these temporary people, people on the temporary protected status program.
Whereas we're going to have to pay higher wages to actual Americans. And this is very upsetting to to some employers. They don't want to have to to actually pay a going market wage. They'd rather pay substandard wages to people who are from foreign countries.
And this is a post on X. And I'll just read this here for you. Well, it's a it's a post and there's a reaction to the post. I'll read the original post first. It says DeWine, this is referring to Mike DeWine.
DeWine is somewhat right. We can't get people in the door where I work for $16 .75 an hour. So we outsource to a temp service who uses Haitians. The Haitians get everything the government is handing out, plus a salary while due to inflation, citizens can't survive on our starting pay.
So, you know, what this is, is, you know, they they bring these Haitians in. They they work for a temporary agency and they're getting much lower wages than what what an American worker would get. Now, probably the company that's paying the temporary service is paying more than paying more per hour than what they're actually paying to the Haitians, because, of course, the temporary service has to get a cut of that.
But they're probably still paying less than they would if they had to pay for a an American worker, especially and they don't have to pay benefits. If you bring people in as temporary, you don't have to pay benefits to them either.
So that's a that's a big cost savings. And the reaction to this particular post, I'll read that for you. This gentleman says this. He says, this is why businesses love Haitian workers. An American citizen gets paid 16 .50 per hour.
No food stamps, no Social Security, no cash assistance, no rent assistance, no free car, no free car insurance. Now, one of the things we've been talking about, right, is, you know, under this parole program that lets in 360 ,000 people a year, these people, they they they get the full panoply of the American welfare state.
So, you know, they come in, they can they can underbid American workers and they get all this cash, all this massive amounts of assistance. And, you know, meanwhile, you know, Americans are being put out of work and they suffer the the additional insult of having to pay for all the people that are being brought in from these other countries.
So this reaction continues. And he says this and he gives an example. He says a Haitian gets paid nine dollars per hour and they get everything else paid for. And that's from the parole program. After considering all the federal benefits, it's likely that the Haitian is making double or perhaps much more than that of what an American worker would make, probably upwards of $30 per hour.
And the employee has only has the employer only has to pay nine dollars of that. No wonder they make such willing workers. So what's what's going on here is the phenomenon that's known as privatizing profits and socializing costs.
An example of that, sometimes I like to think of this is is a lot of these professional sports teams. You know, the the I'll use an example here where I am in in Hamilton County. About 30 years ago, the the local NFL team, the Cincinnati Bengals, they demanded that the the county build them a brand new stadium where they're going to take their team and they were going to leave.
Well, long story short, the county caved in and they they built them this this great, big, beautiful stadium. And the, you know, of course, as taxpayers, we're still having to pay for this. In fact, when I've read articles in The Wall Street Journal and other places, they say is actually one of the worst deals for taxpayers in the entire history of taxpayer funded stadiums.
But anyway, that's that's what we have. And, you know, we we paid to build this thing and we're still paying on it as taxpayers in Hamilton County. And, you know, I'm still waiting for my profit sharing check from the Cincinnati Bengals.
You know, it hasn't come. They've been in that building for like 25 years now. Still haven't gotten a profit sharing check. I don't know. I think maybe I better give Mike Brown a call and see if if he's going to where my money.
Is.
Maybe got lost in the mail.
I don't know.
Of course, I mean, a little bit silly because there's not community profit sharing check coming to me or anybody else. The profits are all going to stay with the Brown family who are billionaires. Now, the Brown family, they own the Bengals.
They understand they're billionaires now, principally off the wealth of the football.
Team.
But I, as a taxpayer, get to have to build a stadium for them. So billionaires, they don't have to, you know, I guess being a billionaire sports team owner means not having to pay for your own place of business.
You can can push that off on the on the taxpayers. And I'm not a billionaire, but I get to pay for the stadium that makes billionaires lots and lots and lots of money. That's privatizing profits. I mean, they make huge profits in the NFL, but they socialize the cost.
That is, they dump the cost of the stadium off on the taxpayers. Well, these businesses that are are hiring these Haitians at substandard wages are doing the same thing. You know, they're bringing these people in there.
They're paying them very low wages. I don't know if it's actually $9 an hour. Maybe it's more than that. I I think the minimum wage is like 1035 now in Ohio. So this response, it may not be numerically accurate, but I think in principle, it's accurate in the sense that, you know, what they're doing is they're probably paying these Haitians much less than they would an American worker.
They're not having to pay the benefits. And besides all the benefits, all these Haitians are being paid for by you and me, the taxpayer. So, yeah, I mean, they had some guy. I mean, I saw some interview with somebody up in Springfield.
He was he was just thrilled at having all these Haitians. He said he had 30 working for him. You wish he had 30 more. Well, you know, again, yeah, you can get cheap labor to come in, cheap, compliant labor to.
Come in.
And of course, you can burn down the country. But, hey, your bottom line looks great. I mean, to me, that's a very narrow minded businessman. That's really not I mean, essentially, it's stealing because, again, you know, you're bringing these people in, you're employing them, you're getting the massive benefit of all the taxpayer subsidies.
So you're you're you're profiting very smartly. But but in the meantime, you're destroying the country. And that, to me, is a very unethical, immoral, unchristian, should be unconstitutional. I believe it is unconstitutional.
But, you know, that's that's the the situation that that we're dealing with right now. And, you know, yeah, a lot of businesses like to like to do business that way. I wish that weren't the case. But but that that is fairly common.
You know, they privatize the profits and they socialize the costs of all this immigration. And one of the other things to point out, too, here is that, you know, apparently these Haitians now some of them some of them may have entered the country illegally and they're part of that temporary protective status program that benefits people who are here in the country illegally.
You know, and of course, that temporary protective service program started because there's a crisis in Haiti. Well, I would ask you this. When has there not been a crisis in Haiti? Haiti has been in crisis probably for over 200 years consistently.
You know, I heard something this past weekend. I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe, you know, the source of all people is Pat Robertson. I think there's some old video of his that Pat Robertson claimed.
And again, this may be true. I don't know if it is or not. I'm just passing along something that I heard that I thought was interesting. And what Pat Robertson said, he was talking about Haiti, and he claimed that they had made up that the Haitians had made a pact with the devil.
You know, back in the early 1800s, you know, there was that rebellion, that slave rebellion against the French. And Robertson was claiming, according to some story that he had heard, that they made a pact with the devil that if the devil would help them defeat the French, that they would serve him.
And the French were defeated. And of course, the nation of Haiti has long been known for a lot of its satanic religious practices, of course, voodoo being one of them. I mean, that's a real thing. I understand.
I read something that something like 40 of Haitians practice voodoo. I mean, that's a satanic religion. There's also Santa Ria is another one of those. I don't know if Santa Ria is as big in Haiti as voodoo is, but that's another satanic religion.
I know it's practiced in the Caribbean. It may be... When I think of voodoo, I always think of Haiti. You know, Haiti is kind of the home of voodoo, but that may not be the only satanic type of religion there.
And that has... I mean, the conditions of Haiti is just horrible. Haiti is actually on the same island with the Dominican Republic. So the island is called Hispaniola, and it's about 50 -50, I think. And I understand that the Dominican Republic government has actually put up a wall between Haiti and the Dominican Republic to keep the Haitians out because it's such a problem in the Dominican Republic.
And so they're not shipping the Dominican Republic. They're bringing them up here to Ohio, and we have to deal with this problem. Let's continue on here. You know, I mentioned in that last article, I mentioned Mike DeWine.
Mike DeWine is a huge problem. I mean, he's a Rhiner Republican. When COVID was all going on, he couldn't wait to lock everybody down. He loved doing that. And one thing I would have a bone to pick with my fellow Ohioans is we reelected him.
We sent him right back to office two years ago after all that awful stuff that he put the state through. And in fact, he would not have taken off the COVID restrictions unless the Ohio State legislature forced him to do it.
They passed a bill removing the COVID lockdowns, which he vetoed and sent it back to the legislature, and the legislature overrode his veto. Oh, good for them. You know, it's not very often I'm actually proud of politicians, but I was actually proud of our Ohio State legislature for standing up to Governor DeWine during that whole COVID fiasco.
And now he's issuing another lame statement. And what he says in response to all this blow up over the past week that's gotten all this national attention, he says, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine is deploying state troopers and $2 .5 million to Springfield mid-surge of Haitian migrants.
The federal, quote, and this was a quote from DeWine, quote, the federal government has not demonstrated that they have any kind of plan to deal with the issue, end quote. So basically what Governor DeWine is doing is just managing the decline.
He's going to spend $2 .5 million. There's another cost, you know, we talk about cost of illegal immigration. Well, there's another cost, $2 .5 million of, I assume this is from Ohio taxpayer money, is going to deal with this problem in Springfield.
But he doesn't say anything about sending these people back. He doesn't demand that these people go home. He doesn't express any outrage that they're here. And read through his statement here. This is Ohio Governor Mike DeWine today announced its new state support for the city of Springfield, which is dealing with significant stress on its healthcare and public safety systems due to an influx of thousands of Haitian migrants over the last several years.
Quote, I want the people of Springfield and Clark County to know that as we move forward, we will continue to do everything we can to help the community deal with this surge of migrants. So they're just going to deal with it, okay?
They're going to deal with the surge of migrants. They're not going to send these people back. They're here. I mean, we're just going to assume, okay, they're here. They're going to stay here. They're never going to leave.
And now we just got to manage the situation. And that's all Mike DeWine is. He just wants to manage the situation. These programs need to be ended. The CHNV program that needs to be ended, the Temporary Protective Staffs program needs to be ended.
And these people need to be sent back home. And some people might say, well, you must hate Haitians. No, I don't hate Haitians. But there is no obligation on the part of the American people to pay one dime to these people.
The Haitians have zero claim on the tax dollars of the American people. And yet they are being... I mean, I don't know what the cost is. I don't know how many of the supposed 20 ,000 Haitians in Springfield, how many of these people are here on that parole program.
It'd be interesting to find out. Maybe we'll, you know, as the story develops, maybe we'll get some additional details on that. But, you know, and of those people, what's the cost to the American taxpayer?
And that's just the program for all the federal welfare benefits. That doesn't include all of the strain and stress that they're putting on the local infrastructure. And something else to consider, too, is these people, if any of them have children, they're going to end up being American citizens.
You know, there was something that I read on X Today. There was a story about that. And this guy was claiming, let's see if I can find that. I don't know if this is true or not. So let's take this with a little bit of a grain of salt.
But I'll at least read through this, and I think you might find it interesting. And this person says, I'm in Springfield. They're not contributing as there's no employment base here. Jobs at GFS. I think that might be Gordon Food Service.
I could be wrong. I think that's what GFS is. Of McGregor. They're firing Americans to hire on Haitians that work cheaper. The vast majority of the Haitians are living only on the $500 to $1 ,500 a month they get from the bennies the government gives them.
Every single Haitian woman is pregnant. They're going to be dropping anchor babies left and right to not get sent back. Our hospital has an over 800 increase in HIV AIDS cases and a 500 increase in TB, as tuberculosis.
There are serious car wrecks every single day now. And as the Haitians are driving without a license or insurance, there's no recourse. And even if the police arrest them, the court is so overburdened, the courts are just releasing them.
Because of all the car wrecks. My insurance man tells me car insurance here is about to triple in price. Housing has gone to be insane where certain landlords get $500 per Haitian. So they fill a two bedroom house with 10 or more Haitians where they can get $5 ,000 a month for Haitians versus the more standard $650 a month for an American family.
Then there's the houses for sale. Little old crack shacks have gone from selling around $30 ,000 to $200 ,000 from $30 ,000 to $200 ,000 for the premium of the housing shortage crisis. Women cannot go out shopping by themselves, go to Meyers or Walmart.
And groups of Haitian men are wandering around following women in the stores and out in the parking lots. Women are scared. Sheriff's deputy told me that retail thefts are up 15 ,000 from four years ago.
Again, even if the police arrest the Haitians, the courts let them go. Springfield had its problems, but this has destroyed the city. I'm calling a realtor on Monday. So that's testimony from someone who claims to be from Springfield that was posted.
I'm not sure exactly where this was posted. I found it on X. I'm not sure it was originally posted, but it shows a posting date of September 13th.
Yeah.
And again, I can't vouch necessarily for every single thing this person claims here, but I would say this, it does have a ring of truth to it. I mean, when you bring that many people from Haiti, from a country that has deep and very serious social problems, and you drop them into the middle of Ohio in a small town, give them government benefits, I don't know what you would expect other than this type of thing.
So, I mean, this to me has a ring of truth to it. Now, you know, someone might come out and say, oh, well, maybe this comes out, it's completely bogus. I don't know. But I wanted to share it with you again, because, you know, I think this is something that is, in my view, very probably true.
And it's the kind of damage that's being inflicted on our country by our government, by the Biden regime. And it's being permitted by, let's say, by governors like Mike DeWine. Mike DeWine himself is a Roman Catholic.
And, you know, this stuff is going on under the supervision of the Roman Catholic Biden regime, the Jesuit-influenced Biden regime. And it is being permitted by governors. I mean, you know, Mike DeWine has no solutions.
He's not interested in solving the problem. He's just interested in managing the problem. So there's that. In fact, this one guy, in fact, commenting on that statement from DeWine, there's a fellow named Aaron McIntyre, who I think he may work.
I want to say maybe he's affiliated with Blaze Media. That's Glenn Beck's media company. But he writes, DeWine has made it clear that he has no issue with the Biden-Harris administration's policy of replacement migration.
He just wants more funding. He isn't fixing the problem. He's funding it. Yeah, that's exactly right.
That's exactly what's going on.
Now, you know, some people, you can't have a good crisis, a good immigration crisis, without having the Roman Catholic Church state, the Antichrist Roman Catholic Church state. You knew I was going to get to this at some point.
Yeah, if you've watched this program at all. And sure enough, here's something. In fact, when I was talking to my source, we'll call him my source today, about some of the stuff going on in Dayton. One of the things he told me was, he knew some individuals, I guess, that knew about some of the games and the stuff that Catholic social services was playing in Springfield.
And he said the cops know about it, but he says most of it, he says the cops are all Catholic, so they just kind of overlook it. I thought that was very interesting. Well, here's something else about the involvement of the Roman Catholic Church in Springfield.
This story is from January 18th, 2024. So just about eight months ago, just the beginning of this year. Headline says, new Catholic Charities Center to help city's Haitian population with immigration.
Jobs.
And you read through here, it says, a new Springfield facility that will provide services, including help with immigration status applications, legal advocacy and case management will open this year. Located at 448 East High Street, it will be operated by Catholic Charities of Southwest Ohio.
That's the Catholic Charities right in my area. That's kind of our version of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley. And they practice immigration treason, just like Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley does, which has been providing aid to Springfield for about a year and a half.
CEO Tony Stiritz said during a Haitian coalition meeting Wednesday, he said he's expecting to be able to begin providing services within a month. And let's see, my screen froze here a little bit.
It's going on.
Oh, come on, you.
Stop doing this.
My computer got a little bit excited too. Okay, well, it says Stiritz said the team will help connect clients to English-speaking learning classes for employment, employment training, resume preparation, application assistance, and job development.
He said they will also assist with asylum, visa status, citizenship, and other humanitarian immigration relief. Okay, so he's going to make very, very sure that these people never, ever go home. Members of the organization in Cincinnati will provide, so that's where Catholic Charities of Southwestern Ohio is located, right here in good old River City, Cincinnati.
Members of the organization in Cincinnati will provide support for many of the immigration services. Stiritz said he expects to help more than 100 people with immigration-related assistance and more than 200 with case management.
It all really depends, honestly, on the intensity of the services that are demanded. Jonathan Salomon, patient advocate and interpreter at Rocking Horse Community Care Center said during the meeting that the greatest need is for immigration services.
Several organizations also provide assistance related to jobs. Stiritz said immigration legal services are low bono, meaning there is a fee scale based on need. He said the fees will be waived in many cases in which the client does not have the means to pay but still requires assistance.
Catholic Charities is prepared to provide legal representation for clients for immigration cases like asylum, the CEO said. As I said, the basic approach for the Roman Catholic Church is get them in any way you can, keep them in, get them on a dole, and eventually legalize them.
That's the basic stance of all of these Roman Catholic Church agencies. This stuff, it goes straight to the top. It goes straight to the Vatican. The Biden regime is implementing the Vatican's immigration strategy, and that strategy is designed to undermine the United States of America.
It's designed to subvert the United States of America. It's designed to Romanize the United States of America, and eventually bring the United States into some kind of a world government structure headed, no doubt, by the Vatican itself.
I mean, what they want to do is they want to bring back the bad old days, the way things were back in Europe when, you know, when the Pope said jump, the only option you had to say was how high your holiness.
And that's what they're working to do here. One other thing, I guess I'm kind of going on and on and on here over an hour. Sorry about that. Anyway, here's the headline. This is, well, this is from, you know, this was from May.
It's talking about Pope Francis and U .S. border crisis. Migration makes a country grow. Okay, well, I mean, yeah, you can have more people, but if those people are low skill and needy, what you end up actually doing is destroying wealth, not creating it.
And of course, that's what Rome is doing with their immigration program. But there was a story, and it was, yeah, it was the one where the Pope was talking about, well, well, you know, the, you know, we have a choice of the lesser of two evils.
And, you know, Harris is evil because of her immigration policy, and Trump is evil because he doesn't treat migrants well. Oh, and here's something else. Well, maybe I'll leave that story. I won't try to look for it anymore.
But here's something, another thing I wanted to share with you. There was a series of posts put out earlier this week by Mike Cernovich. Now, Mike Cernovich, unless you follow, you know, Ultimate Media online, that may not be familiar with you, but he's actually a pretty big name.
I think they interviewed him at 60 Minutes a few years ago, I think maybe back in 2016 or 2017. He kind of first came to prominence in, I think, in 2016 during Trump's first campaign. He was a big Trump supporter.
Well, anyway, here's something he wrote. I want to just read this post to you. He says, the Pope has opened borders. He is not loyal to America. He would gladly destroy this country. So, you know, and he's absolutely right.
And in fact, he cites a story here from Axios. He says, Pope Francis told CBS in an interview airing Monday night that the solution to record numbers of undocumented immigrants arriving at the U .S.-Mexico border was to open the doors to migration.
So the Pope just wants to do more of this stuff. You know, he's out. And as Mike Cernovich said, he's not loyal to America. He would gladly destroy this country. Well, I mean, the Roman Catholic Church state has been trying to destroy America since its foundation.
It was the Roman Catholic Church state that recognized the Confederacy. I think it was the only nation state, if you want to call it that. That was the only diplomatic recognition the CSA, the Confederate States of America, ever received was from the Pope.
They wanted to split the country. I mean, you know, the United States was a large, successful Protestant country, and they wanted to break it up. In fact, it's very interesting. I learned something from Christian Pinto.
He has a, I've heard this on his podcast, Noise of Thunder Radio, but I've also, in his new movie, American Jesuits, he talked about this as well. Something that I had never known before, and that is in the 1860s, the French army actually invaded Mexico.
And they thought they were just going to roll over the Mexicans without any problem. But the Mexicans put up a pretty good fight. And they actually defeated them in, I can't remember which year it was, but they defeated them on May the 5th, the Cinco de Mayo.
And of course, a lot of Americans, you know, we hear about the Cinco de Mayo now, especially because there's so many Mexicans living in the United States. It's kind of become a big thing. But people don't really have a clear idea of what the deal, what the big deal was.
Well, it was the Mexican armies defeated the French. And the French eventually prevailed. But one of the things that Christian Pinto talked about was that, and I think there were maybe even some historians at the time that were concerned about this, this invasion of Mexico by France took place during the American Civil War.
And there are some people who believe that the reason for that invasion was that the French were going to capture Mexico and then use that as a base to send their army north to aid the Confederate army against the Union army.
I had never heard that before. And, you know, that, you know, again, if that's true, you know, that just goes once again, you know, to further prove the perfidy of the Antichrist Roman church state and the degree to which Rome has always been at war with the United States of America.
And I was just amazed at a guy like Cernovich. You know, I don't know what his background is. I don't know if he's Roman Catholic. I don't know if he's Jewish. I have no idea. But it was really fascinating to me to actually see that because one of the great frustrations that I've said this before that I have is that even among the alternate, among the independent media, almost nobody ever talks about the predatory, the destructive, the evil practices of the Roman church state, particularly as regards to how it touches on the current immigration.
Crisis.
I mean, the Roman Catholic church state really caused, has caused this giant mess. They are the principal causes of it, not the only cause of it, but they are the main drivers.
Of it.
One of the people from the Heritage Foundation on the podcast a couple years back called him the 800-pound gorilla in the room. But nobody wants to talk about Rome, not even the independent media. And I find that fascinating.
But Mike Cernovich actually let the cat out of the bag. So I appreciate his work there. And let's see, I thought there was another, it's funny, I save these things sometimes and then it seems like you go back and you look and you can't find them.
Well, darn.
Let's try this.
They said he put out a series of posts and let's see here.
Let's try this. It's good.
His Twitter feed, there's another one that he had that I wanted to read this to you. Because he really called out Catholic charities very specifically. And I was just so impressed with that. I mean, again, that's something that you never see.
I mean, like, even if you watch a guy like Alex Jones, I mean, every now and then he'll talk about the Roman Catholic church, but he really doesn't talk about it all that much.
And let's see.
Okay, here we go. Problem is he tweets so much. This guy, he just puts out this like stream of tweets. That's just from today. I wonder if he writes all these himself or if he has somebody that doesn't for him.
I wonder sometimes about some of these big accounts. You know, it's like surely one person, one man couldn't sit there and spend that much time tweeting, but I don't know, maybe he does. Let's see, rolling back to the 11th.
All kinds of, oh, I guess, yeah, we had the anniversary of 9 -11 this past week too. I was watching Ron Paul and Daniel McAdams, and I think Daniel McAdams summed up my stance on 9 -11. He says, you know, we don't know exactly what happened on 9 -11, but we're sure that the official story isn't correct.
And I think that's a pretty reasonable stance to take. It's sometimes hard to evaluate some of these claims by people. You know, they say, well, you know, there are these architects and engineers that said, well, the World Trade Centers couldn't have collapsed the way they did.
I don't know. I mean, I have to admit, it's hard for me to evaluate that sort of thing. What I can tell you is I know in watching that collapse of those towers go on, it sure does look like a controlled demolition.
It certainly does look like that. Well, anyway, I'm not able to find that exact quote from Mike Cernovich. I'm going to have to go back and look at it. I got to make sure I save that thing. I thought that I did.
That's the thing. Sometimes I save stuff, and I think that I saved it, and then I can't go back and find.
It.
Well, anyway, I'd say enough about that. At any rate, what he said was, what Cernovich said, just kind of summarizing his comments, he said that it was Catholic charities that's been destroying America through the mass importation, through the open borders, that they're facilitating this.
And there's absolutely no question that they are. And you can see some of that, some of the articles that we've discussed here today. Anyway, boy, you know, this is one of the longer podcasts I've done for a while.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks to everybody who's watching on the live stream. It's great to have you here. And also thank you to those of you who listen to the podcast or watch the video. I did want to let you know, I do post these videos on X.
I pin them to the top of my feet on X. So if you want to find me on X, you can watch it there. I also post them to my Rumble channel. So I have a channel on Rumble as well. I do live stream on Facebook and on YouTube, but I don't leave those up very long because I never know if I'm going to say something that's going to offend the powers that be, and then I'm going to get a strike and kicked off and all that other stuff.
So I take those live streams down as soon as I have them. I also do post the audio version, the podcast version. I post that to my blog, Looks Lucid, as well as you can also find that podcast out on Apple.
Podcasts.
It's on Amazon as well.
They actually put up with me.
And I don't know, I think that covers most of it. I do post it also to the Thorn Crown Ministries website as well. And that's a website run by a couple of my friends, Tim Shaughnessy and Carlos Montillo, good brothers down in El Paso, Texas.
A shout out to them. And anyway, that's about all I have for this evening. It's a good place to wrap it up. So I wish you all a blessed Lord's Day tomorrow. And until the next time, may the Spirit of Truth guide you in all truth, as you read and study God's Word.