Freedom From Fear — Zac Poonen

Once again before we begin the meeting, our Heavenly Father, You are again the source of every good and perfect gift. We don't believe anything good or anything perfect can ever come to us from man. It has to come to us only from You.

It may come through any channel, but it must come from heaven. And so we wait upon You, O God, our Father. Have mercy upon us. Don't let the limitations of the human channel hinder Your people from hearing what Your Spirit is saying to the churches at this time.

Lord, supernaturally overlook the limitations of man, and let Your mighty power flow into our midst from Your throne. We trust You, setting people free. Make us like the eagle in the sky. Renew our youth like the eagles.

Set us free, we pray. Total freedom is what we desire. In Jesus' name, amen. So our theme has been, the truth will set you free. And we've looked at this six-fold freedom. First of freedom from sin, Jesus came to set us free from sin.

Freedom From Sin, Legalism, and the World

How do we get free? By knowing the truth that Jesus died to take away, to take the punishment of our sin, and that through the power of His Holy Spirit and His grace, we can overcome the power of sin.

We can be set free from that cage. We saw that Jesus came to set us free from a legalistic spirit towards obeying His commandments. Obeying His commandments is right, but you've got to obey it in the right spirit.

Otherwise, it's a dead work. You can do the right thing with the wrong spirit, and it becomes a dead work, even though it's the right thing. So Jesus came to set us free from that legalistic spirit with which we try to please God.

And He came to set us free from that. And then we saw in our last study, He came to set us free from the world, this world system. And it's when we know the truth about this world system, like we heard in the last session, and the who runs this world system, that our eyes are opened and say, hey, I'm probably mingling up with the wrong type of company, with Satan.

Then I want to break free from it, and I seek for the power of the Holy Spirit to change my way of thinking so that the world doesn't grip me inside, and then it will not affect my outward life either.

Jesus Delivers Believers From Fear

Okay, now we want to look at another cage in which a lot of believers are trapped, which Jesus came to set us free from. And I want to turn, first of all, to Hebrews in chapter 2. Jesus came to deliver us from fear.

Fear is a very strong cage in which many, many believers are trapped so that they cannot fly like the eagle. So our subject today is freedom from fear. Hebrews chapter 2, and we read there in verse 14 and 15,.

Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, so that through death He might render powerless the one who had the power of death, that is the devil, and might set free or deliver those who through fear, through fear, the fear of death, were slaves all their lives.

He came to set people free who were enslaved by fear. Here he mentions the fear of death. The fear of death is the greatest fear. We can say it's number one among all fears. But underneath that are many, many, many other fears.

And we can be trapped in any one of these fears. The Bible says in Proverbs chapter 29, it says in verse 25, the fear of man is a trap. It's a snare. It's a cage. Fear of human opinion. It's a cage. But the one who trusts in the Lord will be exalted, means he'll be, he'll fly like the eagle.

So there are two things put in opposition to each other in this verse. One is fear, and the other is faith. The one who fears is put in a trap. The one who has faith gets exalted like the eagle, flies in the sky.

Fear and faith are opposites. You can't have both in your heart like you can't have Christ and a demon in your heart at the same time. You make a choice. You either have a demon or you have Christ. If you have Christ, you don't have the demon.

If you have a demon, you don't have Christ. It's like that. You either have faith or you have fear. You cannot have both. And sometimes you may think, well, I have faith, but I'm also scared. No, you're fooling yourself.

When you have fear, you don't have faith. No, you don't. You got to face up to it and say, I don't have faith. It's when the devil fools you to make you think, yeah, you got both. It's like these people who say that you can have Christ and a demon sitting inside your heart, coexisting and fellowshipping with each other.

Fear and faith cannot fellowship with each other. You have one or the other. Fear comes in, faith goes out, faith comes in, fear goes out. So this is a very gripping thing, fear. I want you to turn to John's Gospel chapter 20.

It says here in John chapter 20, that after all the wonderful messages that they had heard from Jesus, the greatest creature for three and a half years, and the numerous times that he told them, fear not, fear not.

Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. It says here that when Jesus came, John chapter 20, after his resurrection, verse 19, it was evening on that first day of the week. And when the doors were shut, where the disciples were sitting, because they were afraid of the Jews, he came and said to them, peace be with you.

And he showed them his hands and his feet, and his side rather, and they rejoiced. They said, this is great. He's risen. And he said, peace be to you. As the Father sent me, so send I you. And he breathed on them and said, receive the Holy Spirit, similar to our being born again.

They were not filled with the Holy Spirit. They were born again, we can say. And then, a few days later, eight days later, eight days after this happened, verse 26, his disciples were again inside the closed door for fear.

And Jesus came. The doors were again shut. See, even though Jesus said all this, they saw the risen Lord, they rejoiced, Jesus breathed on them, but they were still afraid. It didn't deliver them from fear.

Exactly like your experience and mine. How many of you believe that Jesus rose from the dead? All of us. How many of you rejoice that Jesus rose from the dead? All of us. Born again? Most of us are born again.

But fear is still there. These disciples were like that. What was it that made them throw the doors open? A few days later, when they were filled with the Holy Spirit, that drove out fear. And after that, this same man, Peter, who was afraid to witness to a small servant girl, suddenly he becomes a bold man and stands before the chief priests and others and says, you crucified Christ.

How did he get that boldness? Was it a gradual therapy, psychological therapy that delivered him from fear over a period of six months? No. It had nothing to do with psychology. Did somebody give him a pep talk?

Sometimes, you know, we come to a meeting, Sunday meeting, and the way you receive the message is like a pep talk. You know, like a coach gives a pep talk to a football team before it goes on the field.

Come on, stirs them all up to go and score goals. We get a pep talk on Sunday, and we say, yeah, I'm bold now. And by the time the effect of that pep talk wears out by Monday, we are back inside the closed doors again.

We need something more than a pep talk. The disciples didn't get a pep talk. They were filled with the Holy Spirit, and that drove out all fear from them. And as long as they continued being filled with the Spirit, fear would go.

Repeated Filling With the Holy Spirit Brings Boldness

But we read in the Acts of the Apostles, a few days later, after the day of Pentecost, in Acts chapter 4, it says, the people began to threaten the Apostles, saying, we'll kill you. And so they did the sensible thing, they prayed.

And they prayed to the Lord in Acts 4 .29 and said, now Lord, take note of their threats, and give your servants boldness, fearless confidence to preach your word. They said, Lord, these people are threatening us.

And to tell you honestly, Lord, we are a bit scared. Please deliver us once again, from this fear. We don't want to live scared lives. You know, it's good to be honest. Maybe you were baptized in the Holy Spirit, but you're scared again.

Go to the Lord and say, Lord, I tell you honestly, I'm a bit scared about this situation. But will you please fill me once again? And it says, verse 31, the last part, they were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they got bold again.

Isn't that great? That we can go to the Lord and say, Lord, I'm a bit scared, and the Lord fills me with the Holy Spirit, and my boldness comes back again. We need it more than once. There is no once for all experience that will deliver us from fear forever.

No. You get out of the cage, and then something else puts you back inside the cage again. And you say, Lord, liberate me. This is not the place where I'm supposed to live. I mean, I need to constantly go to God and say, Lord, I never want to live inside this cage of fear.

Caution Is Not the Same as Fear

Now, there is a difference between being afraid and being cautious. For example, if I'm working with an electrical wire or a plug point or something, opening it out and screwing it up and all that, I won't be afraid, but I'll be very cautious.

I'll make sure I'm wearing rubber slippers and, you know, use screwdrivers that don't conduct electricity. That's not fear. That's caution. If I'm going through a forest infested with snakes, I won't be afraid, but I'll be cautious.

I'll carry a torchlight. I'll carry a stick or something to keep me. And if I don't need to go through it, I won't go through it. That's not fear. That's caution. We must not be foolish and mistake caution for fear.

I mean, if somebody is going, you know, you hear that there's a lion that got loose from Banner Ghata or somewhere and is roaming the streets. Well, I'm not going to walk in front of that and say, listen, I'm not afraid of you.

I'm just going to be cautious because I don't want to lose my life. And I mean, Jesus was like that. Have you ever read this verse? John chapter 7 verse 1. After these things, Jesus was walking in Galilee and he was not willing to walk in Judea because the Jews were trying to kill him.

You ask the Lord, Lord, why don't you go to Judea? Hey, those guys are trying to kill me there. Why should I go there? Now you'd preach to Jesus. Come on, Lord, don't be scared. Don't you know that your life is in your father's hand and nobody can touch you?

Come on, go there. That would be like the devil tempting him to jump off the temple. Come on, jump off the temple. The Lord will protect you. That is stupidity. And he will turn around to you and say, get behind me, Satan, and you deserve to hear it.

Because that's stupidity. You know, to go and try to show off that my life is in God's hands and nobody can kill me. Even Jesus, the son of God, he did not go to certain places because they're trying to kill you there.

Why should you go there? And you know, the advice he gave to his disciples in Matthew chapter 10. I mean, I say this, I mean, these are obvious things, but some people are pretty foolish. In Matthew chapter 10, he said in verse 23, when they persecute you in one city, run.

Run, why? Because I don't want to die. Did you know Jesus told you to run when they persecute you? Please remember that when that time comes. Run to another place where there's no persecution. You see, faith does not mean we don't use our common sense.

That is the stupidity of so many believers. That faith means, oh, I don't run, God will protect me. I'll go there where they're going to kill me, nothing will happen. It's like these people who won't take medicine when they're sick.

No, God will take care of me. Stupidity. There are lots of cases like that we've seen in India of people who were taught by pastors who never studied the word of God properly. And there are people who have died before their time, who could have, I've seen it here in Bangalore.

Young people have died before their time because they were taught not to take medicine. And you know what happens to these pastors when they get old and they get sick, they take medicines. And they say, well, I changed my mind on it now.

You change your mind after killing so many people with the false doctrine. Don't be deceived by all this. It's happening. It's happening around our country with stupid Christians who haven't studied the word of God.

Don't be fooled by all that. That's not boldness. That's not faith. We got to be cautious. There is no virtue in jumping off the temple and saying, the Lord will protect me. When God has provided stairs, use the stairs.

When God has provided medicine, use the medicine. If I were in some jungle where I couldn't use medicine, where nothing was available, I will trust the Lord to heal me. Sure. But where God has provided means, where he's provided the stairs to jump down and say, God is going to take care of me, is the height of stupidity.

Boldness Overcomes Timidity and Fear

So I mentioned that, that caution is different from fear. Jesus was cautious and he told us to be cautious. So don't mistake the two. But fear is not from God. See, 2nd Timothy chapter 1, 2nd Timothy chapter 1 and verse 7, God has not given us the spirit of fear or timidity.

Timidity is also fear. It's a form of fear. I'm afraid to step out when God tells me to do something. Timid. You know, there's a verse in Corinthians which says, act like men. That means don't be effeminate.

God, I mean, it's all right for a woman to be a woman. But I tell you, I have seen a number of men who behave like women and that's wrong. You know, they won't dress like women because they say, oh, the Bible says, don't dress like a woman.

But if you behave like a woman, it's worse. I'd rather dress like a woman than behave like a woman any day. Of course, I don't want to do either. But if I have a choice, dressing like a woman is not as bad as behaving like a woman, you men.

I tell you, I've seen people like that who are so timid and effeminate. God wants us to be bold. And I believe the reason why there's a lot lack of leadership coming up in our churches in the next generation is because we've got a bunch of young men who are effeminate.

They're acting like women. Women are not supposed to be leaders. The Bible has not given that doesn't mean they are inferior. Don't get that idea. Supposing I tell you men, none of you can give birth to a baby.

Does that make you inferior? I tell you, you can pray as much as you like, you'll never be able to give birth to a baby. That doesn't make you inferior. A woman is not superior because she gives birth to a baby.

That's what they're equipped for. And in the same way, a man is equipped to be the leader. It's just like that. They've got one gift, you've got another gift. Now, I'm just quoting scripture. Don't think I'm just spinning theories in my head.

I'm quoting scripture exactly like it says. 1 Timothy chapter 2. A woman should not be a leader, verse 12. But a woman, verse 15, should give birth to babies. You see what I said? A woman should give birth to babies and a man should be the leader.

It's there in scripture. So the example I quoted was right there from scripture. That's their gift and this is your gift. So just like women give birth to babies, you be a leader. Why is it more of our men are not leaders?

Why are they so timid? Why don't they say, God, fill me with the Holy Spirit and help me to do something for you? I believe that. I mean, I started doing that when I was 21. I said, Lord, I want to serve you.

And I'd look for opportunities to do something. I never got a chance to stand in pulpits like this because I was too young. I'd preach on the streets. I'd go to homes and talk to one or two people. I wanted to do something for God.

I was not going to be a woman. And I want to say to all of you, do something for the Lord. Don't just sit at home like a woman and just say, I go to the meeting on Sunday. I go to the meeting on Wednesday, but the sisters also do that.

And you go to the meeting and you just sit quietly there and you come home. The sisters also do that. You're a woman. Some of you brothers, you should put a scarf on your head when you come to the meeting because that's how you behave, like a woman.

Be honest. Put a scarf on your head and say, I'm a brother. I'm an effeminate brother. Please excuse me. I'll sit here with a scarf. Be honest. Don't be a hypocrite and uncover your head and say, I'm a man.

You're not a man. You're a woman. I really believe it's the spirit of timidity and fear that keeps down a lot of our people from doing something for the Lord. I'm not asking you to give birth to babies, you brothers.

I'm asking you to be leaders. We need to be filled with the Holy Spirit. If a great and powerful, hairy, broad-chested fisherman like Peter could be scared of a young girl, I suppose you and I can also be scared.

But he was filled with the Holy Spirit and you need to be filled with the Holy Spirit and then fear will go out. Timidity will go out. I believe many of us should take the lead. We should be afraid. We should get rid of, first of all, the fear of making mistakes.

You know why you're afraid to make a mistake? Please listen carefully. Most of us are afraid of making mistakes publicly because, listen carefully, because you love the honor of men so much, you don't want them to see that you make a mistake.

Supposing a little child never wanted anybody to see it falling down while it was trying to walk, one year old or 11 months old. It'll never learn to walk. But you'll learn a lesson from these little children.

They try to walk when they're 10 months old and they collapse. And they try again, they fall. They try again, they fall. And one day, lo and behold, they're walking. They're not afraid of making mistakes.

Don't be afraid of making a mistake. I've made a lot of stupid mistakes, but I learned a lot of things through them. But I believe we need to be delivered from this spirit of timidity and fear which keeps you inside a cage, locked up.

I can't do this. You know, very often you'll discover that God gives you an enablement to do something when you step out and say, I'm going to do something for God. I believe we need to get out of this timidity.

Very, very important. I'm speaking especially to brothers who all that you do is go to your meetings on Sunday or Wednesday, go to all the meetings regularly like all the sisters do. And maybe get up and speak for two minutes and share something from the word in an effeminate way.

When are we going to get out of this? When are we going to get the spirit of boldness? God has not given us the spirit of timidity or fear, but the spirit of power. And I believe we need that. Jesus, just like he said, sin not, sin not, sin not, don't sin.

He told the woman caught in adultery, don't sin again. He told other people, don't sin again. He also said, don't be afraid. The same God who said, don't sin, said, don't be afraid. The same God who said, don't commit adultery, said, don't be afraid.

The same God who said, don't commit murder, also said, don't be afraid. Why is it we have put murder and adultery as sins and fear? Ah, that's a sort of a weakness. Why don't you call adultery also weakness?

It's not a weakness. If you commit adultery, you're disobeying God. And when you become afraid, you're disobeying God. Call it as disobedience, and then you'll be delivered from it. Let me ask you a question.

Supposing a man keeps on falling into adultery and said, brother, that's just a weakness of mine. I mean, it's not a sin. It's just a sort of a weakness. It happens now and then. Do you think he'll ever get victory over it?

You think a man who's a pickpocket, um, and even after he's born again, he still goes around picking pockets and says, what to do? I mean, I'm just tempted when I get into the bus and I see that fella's, uh, that dumb guy standing in front of me.

I just feel like picking his pocket. What to do? Uh, do you think he'll ever get victory over it? He doesn't call it a sin. He calls it a weakness. And as long, listen to this, as long as you think fear is only a weakness, I prophesy you'll never get weakness.

You'll never get victory over it till you call it a sin. Picking pockets, you tell that fellow is a sin. No matter how much you're tempted with that fellow in the bus, don't pick his pocket. And no matter how much you're tempted to commit adultery, don't do it.

And I say, how much you are tempted to fear, don't fear. That's what Jesus said. You say, Lord, but you got to help me. And I suppose like a man who is addicted to drinking or smoking, they need God's help to get rid of it.

And you need God's help to get rid of fear. So I've explained to you the difference between caution and fear. Now I want to go one step further. I want to say that as long as we live, we will always have certain feelings of fear.

I mean, if a cobra suddenly jumped out of this from under here somewhere, I would react. That's natural. That's a self-protective mechanism in our body. And I don't want to be active if nothing is there.

There is something there and I don't want to be anywhere near it. That's a sudden feeling of fear that will always be there till the end of our life. That's how we protect ourselves. You know, suddenly you find a car coming in the road, you pull back.

I mean, that's natural protective mechanism which we need. And also, supposing you suddenly say tomorrow morning, you hear some really bad news that somebody has filed a criminal case against you, you got to go to court tomorrow.

Well, you're not going to be particularly excited and say, hallelujah, that's great. You're going to have certain, hey, what's this? What did I do? And you'll have certain fears. Now, what will I do? How do I get a lawyer?

And what do I do next? That's natural because it's like somebody pushing you into a river and you don't know how to swim. How will you feel if you don't know how to swim and somebody pushes you into a river?

You'll naturally be scared. But after a while, you learn how to swim and you become okay. So, my point is this. There are certain feelings of fear that will come when you are encountering a new set of circumstances that you've never encountered before.

I know there are a lot of young people who are perpetually afraid of getting married because they say, boy, what will marriage be like? I see all these horrible marriages around me and they're scared.

And so, they stay away from getting married because they're afraid. They've heard all these terrible stories of what happened to this person and that person and the other person. But a lot of good marriages too.

So, sometimes they're just scared. And many, many things, any new area, like a person who's always grown up in home and suddenly he has to go and live in a hostel in some other college far away and is only 16, 17 years old.

Naturally, he'll have a lot of fears. Those feelings are there. Don't worry about that. That's not sin. It's when you act on those feelings that is dangerous. Supposing you say, no, no, no, I'll never go outside my house or I'll never get married because I'm afraid.

Then, that can be a sin because you're acting on your fear. So, I've discovered this, that as long as I live on the earth, there will be certain feelings of fear, particularly when we encounter some new situation that we have never encountered before.

But you've overcome it after some time because you get accustomed to it. So, I'm not talking about those things. Don't worry about feelings. It is the decision you take which must decide that. I remember how the Lord taught me this many, many years ago when my children were small.

I used to travel for long weekends away to different parts of Tamil Nadu and all for meetings. I remember once I was standing alone in cantonment station. I'd just taken an auto rickshaw and gone to the station to catch the train on Thursday or something like that.

My children were sick and only my wife was at home. The stranding there in cantonment station, a certain fear came into my heart. What if my children's condition becomes worse tomorrow? And I'm there and then I'll take another, I don't know when I'll get a reservation to come back.

And it began to, you know, the more you meditate on it, you know how fear is, you begin to think about it more and it gets worse and worse and worse and you imagine all types of terrible things happening.

Well, all these things went through my mind and I was wondering, well, shall I just cancel my trip? I can send them a telegram and tell them I can't come and they'll understand because my children are sick, I need to help.

And as I was standing there, the Lord said to me, you can go home if you like, this is okay, there's nothing wrong, but don't ever take a decision out of fear. Take a decision, but let your decision be a decision based on faith, not fear.

And after you've used your common sense and exercised faith, you still feel, I think it's best I go home and help my wife look after my sick children. It's perfectly okay, the Lord said, but don't take that decision out of fear.

That was a real help to me. I had feelings of fear, but I said, I'm not going to take a decision out of fear. I'm going to take a decision out of faith. I got into the train and went for the meeting. Of course, all the hundred things the devil said would happen, none of them happened.

And that's usually the case, you know, 99 of the things that you are afraid will happen, usually never happen. The devil is just fooling you. I came back and my children were okay. So I learned something so many years ago that I've never forgotten, that feelings of fear may come, but if you don't act on that fear, you're okay.

That's just temptation. But I said, I'm not going to act on it. I'm going to act on the fact that I have a Heavenly Father. See, along with fear is this insecurity that many, many believers have. A lot of problems that many believers have is because they are in this cage of insecurity.

It's another word for fear, a cage of insecurity inside which I'm flapping my wings. And this insecurity is because I'm not sure how much God loves me, how much He cares for me. If I know the truth, what will the truth do?

It'll set me free. Like we see there, it'll open the cage door and I'll be out. And so the devil makes sure that you don't know the truth. And I'm going to make sure that you know the truth, particularly concerning how much God loves us.

God's Love Makes Believers Precious and Secure

It's one of my favorite topics because I know as a born-again Christian, as a young Christian, I was so insecure. I was fearful, insecure, and it brought me defeat in so many areas. But there was one truth.

You've heard me say this many times and I'll preach it as long as I live. The truth that set me free was John 17, 23, that the Father in heaven loved me as He loved Jesus. I never heard a message on that in my whole life.

I never heard anybody preach on it. But it set me free so much that I've preached it everywhere I've gone. And my dear brothers and sisters, you've heard me speak it. You're probably in your head. I want to ask you whether you're gripped in your heart by this wonderful truth that God loves you.

As He loved Jesus. He cares for you as He cared for Jesus. He's interested in you as much as He was interested in Jesus when Jesus was living on the earth. Can you imagine how all of heaven was watching Jesus growing up in Nazareth?

What He was doing? Every little thing. Was anybody trying to harm Him? When He grew up and went to preach in the synagogue and all those people ganged up and took Him out to the cliff we read in Luke chapter 4 to throw Him down the cliff and all of heaven was watching and the Father was watching and He just arranged the circumstances in such a wonderful way that Jesus quietly escaped.

This is the Father who cares for you and for me. When people gang up against you in your place of work or in your college or anywhere in the world to harm you and they take you here or maybe take you to the top of a cliff to throw you down.

Remember at that time all of heaven is watching you and it will not happen. Don't be afraid because your heavenly Father cares for you. It's brought such tremendous comfort to me. You remember when Jesus was that little baby in wherever He was in Bethlehem and Herod sent all his soldiers and said any child under two years kill them kill them kill them and all of heaven was watching because Jesus was there little baby and just before the soldiers came they left for Egypt.

Do you believe God protects you like that? He does. He does it even today. Some of the brothers here know how some of these religious cult people tried to come one day with all their false allegations to arrest me for saying that they were a cult and the night before they came I didn't know anything about it.

I had already booked a train to travel to Tamil Nadu and when they came the bird had flown. He wasn't there and they came with the police and everybody else to the gate and discovered that nobody's there.

I was reminded of how the angel took Jesus away from Bethlehem to Egypt and Herod's soldiers were frustrated. They are frustrated even today. What I want to say is it works. That's all I'm trying to say.

If you can believe that God in heaven is watching all the time for you especially for you I believe it. I believe I am as important to heaven as Jesus Christ himself. You say brother Zach you're pretty arrogant.

I'm not. That's not arrogance. That's just faith. Sometimes you say oh I'm nobody. God doesn't care for me. That's not humility. That's unbelief. When God says you are more precious than the apple of his eye.

Do you know that the most sensitive part of your body is the apple of your eye. You can let people touch you anywhere in the body. It won't hurt you but the moment anybody just touches that central part of your eye, even if it's your best friend, you react.

You just don't want anybody touching the apple of your eye. That's what God uses. Do you know this wonderful verse? Zachariah chapter 2. Zachariah chapter 2. You know where Zachariah is just after Hezekiah?

Chapter 2. Found it? Second last book of the Old Testament. I was just testing your Bible knowledge. Zachariah chapter 2. Verse 8. The middle of the last part of that verse. He who touches you touches the apple of God's eye.

You say I don't believe it. You don't believe it? According to your faith be it unto you. You will not be the apple of His eye. I believe it. So according to my faith it is unto me. You know who I am?

The apple of Almighty God's eye. You better not touch me. I'll tell you that. I don't care who you are. You better not touch me because I won't do anything. When somebody touches your eye, the eye doesn't do anything.

But boy, the hand does something. So I'm only the eye. I will not do anything. You can try and touch me but I've got some mighty arms around me. The arms of the Almighty God who'll do something to you if you touch me or anybody touches me.

The devil, demons, my enemies. Nobody can touch me. Why? Is it because I'm more important than you? No. Not at all. It's because I believe what the Bible says. Perhaps you don't believe because in a false humility you say oh no no no no I'm not so important and that's exactly what the devil wants you to say.

I believe it. I believe what it says in John 17 23 that the father loves me as he loved Jesus. That's what drives fear out of our life. If anybody dares to touch me, he's touching the apple of God's eye.

No demon can touch me. I don't live in fear of demons. No. Nobody can harm you. You know I go to live when I travel to some of these places in different parts of South India. Sometimes we have to stay in hotels and I tell you hotel rooms are demon filled rooms.