Radio Lux Lucet 121

Pope Francis’s Immigration Teaching and Roman Catholic Social Theory

You're listening the radio looks lucid. I'm your host Steve Matthews. Thanks for joining me for episode 121 the title of this episode is Pope Francis immigration irredentism. And you might be wondering so what on earth is irredentism?

Oh, we'll talk a little bit about that. But first I just wanted to say hey, it's great to talk to everybody again here this evening. Hope you're having a good Labor Day holiday. I had a chance to go out and do a little bit more bike riding this morning.

That was that was fun, but you know one thing I saw well one one frustration is I wanted to lose listen to some podcast Brothers writing and I don't know what the deal was today. I mean normally I can can listen to the podcast just fine over the you know on the On the network on the you know the cell phone.

But for whatever reason I could not bring in any any of the podcast normally listen to today I don't know what was going on. That was kind of frustrating. But anyway, I did have a good ride. So that was nice and it was a little bit cooler here today, too.

It wasn't 96 or 97 or whatever ridiculous thing. It was this past week. You know, we had the hottest days of the summer I think really just the last few days here in the the last week of August. But now we're getting ready to turn the page over to September.

So maybe things will cool off a little bit be nice. We got a little bit of rain because things are getting kind of burned up out there right now. You know this this time of year. It's always This is really the driest time of year around here and and see it seems like we avoided it for a while.

But I know the last few weeks here have been very dry kind of typical. Of the way it is this time of year and we ended up. Yeah, you know the I haven't mowed the grass in like two or three weeks, which actually is kind of nice.

Don't it spend all the time on the mower? So I guess I can't complain too much. Right? Everything has its benefits.

So anyway.

Got a show here for you tonight. I think this should be Hopefully interesting to you. There's a comment just the other day and this came in From. Well, let's see here. That's not what I wanted to do. Let's try this.

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The Vatican, Migrants, and the Claim of a Grave Sin

Okay, so this this particular headline. This is actually coming from the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and it starts out here Pope driving away migrants is a grave sin. It's not just a sin, but it's actually a grave sin this comes from Vatican City.

It says working to turn migrants away from the prospect of peace and security in a new country is a grave sin Pope Francis said. It needs to be said clearly. There are those who systematically work by all means to drive away migrants and this when done knowingly and deliberately is a grave sin he said during his general audience of on August 28th.

So He doesn't cite any scriptures for this type of thing. And in fact, I don't think there's any scriptures that he could cite to support it now one of the things you hear Roman Catholics argue quite a bit is that well, you know because You know Joseph was warned in a dream to take Mary and in Jesus and flee to Egypt.

That this is the the pattern for all migrants and so all these migrants are just doing the same thing that That Joseph and his family did when they fled to Egypt. Well, that's not really really the case and I've argued about I've argued this point elsewhere.

But it's probably worth reviewing a little bit. I mean one of the the problems here with in fact the chief problem there are a number of problems, but I think the the chief problem is that the The the Bible says nothing about how they were supported when they were in Egypt you know there there wasn't a welfare state back then the way that there is now and I Would say it was one of two things.

I mean Joseph may have applied his trade.

I mean.

He's at least traditionally known to be a carpenter or at least some type of a tradesman and Maybe he supported the family that way or maybe the Lord arranged for the family to have some type of support.

There was a Sizable Jewish community in in Egypt at that time and it's very possible that maybe he Was stayed there with some of the you know with some of his co Co-religionists in in Egypt, I think that certainly is a possibility.

Something else to this worth keeping in mind is that in in Going from Judea to to Egypt. I mean you're really just going between two provinces of the Roman Empire. It's not really quite the same thing as going from one nation to another.

But the biggest thing is is there was no welfare state and This is the thing that you will find in all Roman Catholic Discussions about immigration either make these statements and they sound really really good.

It's like oh, how could these mean people want to turn away migrants? Well, the it there's more to it than that I mean Rome isn't just interested in people being able to flee. But they also believe not only they have a right to come to your country, but they have a right to take your money and you have an obligation to give it and This is it it amounts to theft is is what it comes down to.

But of course, you know, the Roman Catholic Church does not believe in property rights the same way most People probably think that they do. Because they're on the Catholic Church, I mean they they will Will defend property rights up to a point but they believe when push comes to shove when things really get serious.

That it's okay to take someone else's property there their excess goods their surplus goods if you need them and That's not a sin in doing so. Well, there's the Bible teaches. No such thing. Yeah, that's a a False talk now false doctrines and unbiblical doctrine they call it the universal destination of all goods and it really lies at the the base of so much of Roman Catholic Immigration theory.

Now the thing is, you know, I I don't think that what's going on with Rome when they they're constantly pushing all of this. You know what? They they like to call it call migration. I mean, I would call it an invasion is is what they they set up I mean they they encourage people to invade and then they do invade and and they have expectations of getting on the dole which of course they do there was a an article that Came out and let me see here.

Oh, yeah. Here we go US taxpayers paid 150 billion in one year for migrants report in 2023 roughly 150 billion u .s Taxpayer money was doled out for government services and support to help the 20 million illegal a million illegals in the country according to study from the Federation for American immigration reform.

So and it lists some of the the top states for this type of thing. Number one was California. Number two is Texas. Number three was, New York California alone spent 30 billion and.

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I mean number five was New Jersey six, Illinois seven, Arizona eight, North Carolina nine, Georgia ten, Maryland. So those were the top ten. I'm seeing if Ohio is listed anywhere in here. No, actually, Ohio does not make the the the top 20 they list the top 20 states.

Well, you know, that's that that's a lot of money. And I mean, I've actually seen reports to put it higher than that, but that that's a huge amount of money but of course, yeah, here's a Here's a tweet that was put out by this.

Well a post excuse me as a post on X by this feed called in wokeness. That says US taxpayers paid 150 billion to care for illegal aliens just last year, but a five billion dollar wall is too expensive.

Yeah, we remember when Trump wanted to build the wall back in in 2017. We were told well, it's five billion dollars and we just don't have the money in the budget. There's there's just no money for this.

We can't possibly do it. This is too expensive. It can't be done. We have to be fiscally responsible. But yeah the but it's okay to shell out a hundred and fifty billion dollars for for illegal aliens.

Says most of the money was born by state and local governments not the feds. New York Post reports in Massachusetts Republican leaders say there's a 1 billion dollar hole in state coffers and they're accusing the Democrat controlled government of quietly siphoning off tax Dollars to deal with the migrant crisis.

I think that's probably true. I think that that makes a lot of sense. On Tuesday, the state's Republican Party filed a Freedom of Information Act requesting request demanding Governor Mara Healy now Mara Healy she's the lesbian same-sex married governor of Massachusetts and And she was raised Roman Catholic.

I don't know if she's currently Roman Catholic or not. I don't know if she She is Currently part of the church, but I suspect very strongly I mean she she certainly has been one of the people who has been most enthusiastic in carrying out the the Vatican's irredentist immigration policy and by the way, irredentism, you know use that that term in the title and irredentism is is really a Roman Catholic Jesuit immigration warfare and that's just where they they flood a country with you know, lots and lots of their own people or people that there are friendly to their particular causes and.

Then they end up you know essentially taking over that country and You know, it becomes some it becomes a situation where the Vatican then, you know Has has much greater control and authority over the country than what they did previously.

You know, and of course, you know The Vatican is is the premier globalist organization has said this before and I think it needs to be said again The Vatican is the premier globalist organization in the world they hate individual they hate that hate hate hate the idea that there could be independent nations that do not have to to jump when the Pope says.

Well do not have to ask how high when the Pope says jump. You know when the when the Pope says jump, you know, you're supposed to say how high your holiness that's what they think should happen and after the the 30 years war that ended paper rule in countries that were That had been influenced by the Reformation.

They no longer could do that and they've spent the last the better part of the last 400 years. Trying to reestablish the control. I mean the the Roman Catholic Church the Popes the Antichrist Popes love world government they absolutely love it and and by destabilizing Nation-states it it tends to foster globalism.

And that's why they're doing what they're doing. Let's see here. It says the Healy is just talking here about Massachusetts again. The Healy just go administration is shrouded nearly 1 billion spent in secrecy.

Leaving Massachusetts residents in the dark the party's Amy Carnival told Fox News and they have withheld critical information on 600 incidents involving police fire and EMT blocking journalists. The administration has obstructed the flow of information of the public.

Well, you know again, you know, this is the kind of thing that. This is typical Roman Catholic type of tactics, you know, they don't feel like they have to answer to you and to me you know, we're just we're just the lowly people our job is to shut up and Allow our countries to be overrun.

If you don't like it you know then the that antichrist is gonna lecture you and tell you that you're that that's a sin and. And you know your job is just to shut up and fork it over. I mean that's that that is antichrist immigration policy in a nutshell and in this governor.

Is.

This lesbian governor in Massachusetts is helping and carry that out. Let's see. It talks a little bit here says. In New York the comptroller estimated that migrant crisis would cost roughly four point three billion through 2025 when New York City taxpayers would be on the hook for three billion dollars this year.

According to the Post while most states account accounts of migrant expenses look mostly at emergency housing and aid Fair looks at the full breadth of state services including education medical expenses law enforcement legal cost of welfare.

Well, you know one of the other things that's not included in that study is things like lost wages for the for Americans because what happens? When you're importing all of these low skill Illegal aliens they take jobs from from the American from American people from American citizens.

And it also has a tendency of driving down the the the overall wages. So Americans lose wages because of this as well. So anyway, yes, so this is what goes on but the Pope says if you oppose any of this kind of stuff well, it's a sin and.

And.

Here's another story and this has been in the news here quite a bit here. It says Colorado City seeking order to evict Venezuelan gang members that overtook apartment buildings. Criminal nuisance. This is also from the New York Post.

And it says the city of Aurora, Colorado announced it would clear out an apartment building Overrun by violent Venezuelan gang members after a video of the gun-toting crew went viral. The city ruled that the gang activities are a criminal nuisance giving officials license to draft up emergency court-ordered evictions.

Mayor Mike Kaufman announced Friday. This will require a municipal judge to issue the order with the goal of getting these Properties back under the control of the property owners said Kaufman who previously called a takeover and organized criminal effort.

In the meantime long the law enforcement tax force set up to disrupt and arrest Venezuelan gang members in these buildings will continue its operations and this is a The picture that's gone somewhat vile here viral here if you can if you're watching on the the video Version of this and it shows some guys standing outside an apartment.

Door of an apartment. Now they at least it looks like one of them has like a rifle of some sort. And I think the other guy one of the guys here has a handgun. It says in this kind of cap says an armed crew is spotted flaunting guns inside a Colorado apartment building overrun by a Venezuelan gang so I guess I don't know I guess to go around terrorize the residents.

But this is happening in Aurora, Colorado. And of course Aurora, Colorado is I Believe a suburb of Denver and the Now of course Denver is has this this horrible mayor that Can't stop bringing in more illegal aliens.

He likes to call them newcomers. That just sounds so nice. Oh, they're just newcomers. Oh get out the welcome wagon for him. No, I mean you're bringing in illegal aliens some of whom are gang members from Venezuela.

Yeah, surprise surprise, you know people to come to the country illegally tend to do illegal things once they get here, too. That's that's not surprising. I mean, you know, there's that old saying about you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.

Well when your first impression on me as an American is to come into my country illegally, I don't trust you. Now you may have good qualities. You may be Thinking you're doing the right thing. But if you have complete disregard for American law you come into my country.

I'm supposed to think well of you. You know that that doesn't make a whole lot of sense I mean these people by violating immigration laws make an extraordinarily bad first impression on the American people.

It's a truly remarkable thing. So anyway kind of reading through that article. Yeah, it's that has been a big story here recently on on the news on Twitter. Let's see here. Oh. Here's another thing too, but I mean, I guess Pope Francis thinks it's a sin to oppose that sort of thing.

I mean, I guess you know, they're bringing in these violent gangs. They even had a name for this particular gang. What I saw here, yeah tren de Aragua. I'm saying that correctly tren de Aragua. That's that's the name.

It says it describes it here as a As a violent prison gang.

And.

They they think it's possibly tren de Aragua at least in this story here. So maybe maybe these guys are searched for something different. I don't know they don't cite specifically why they think it's that particular gang, but but yeah, I mean and You know that this stuff goes on but again if you complain about that if you complain about our own gang members going through Your apartment building brandishing guns and threatening people.

Well, anyway, I guess I guess that's a sin. If you want to if you want to repel these people. You know and I'm sure that they'd come up with some kind of sophistry. Oh, no, we don't actually mean that but I mean in in practice, that's exactly what they bring to this country.

This is this this is Roman Catholic immigration policy in action. This is the Antichrist immigration warfare on the United States of America in practice. This is what happens. This is what goes on that I cannot say this enough, you know I mean, I've said this many many times on this podcast.

I've written about it on my blog. But I mean this is what goes on. This is the kind of stuff that happens. So anyway you know the Pope goes through here and he he whines and carries on about all the mean people that that don't want to have the countries invaded by illegal aliens and and criminal gangs from Venezuela.

You're a very bad person if you don't. If you don't think that that's that's something that we should we should embrace that same story actually about Pope Francis. It was I was covered in the Hill. That's a major Newspaper covers political things mostly and see a Pope Francis to repel migrants is a grave sin and They report to and this was just this past Wednesday.

He denounced those who willingly work to repel migrants as sinners. Calling out restrictive immigration laws border militarization rejection as tools that endanger migrants. Well, what about what about the the policies of the Vatican that endanger citizens of these countries?

I Mean you can't go even a day in the United States of America here without reading stories and usually multiple stories about Deaths that were caused by by illegal aliens or or rapes or assaults or robberies.

It just goes on and on and on. I mean, it's just I mean, I've I I clipped the stories that I can I'm sure I haven't clipped all of them or seen all of them or that all of them even made it to Made it to sort of a national news or or on at least on the internet anyway, but I mean here's Let's see.

I know there was there was at least one or two here. Oh, yeah. Here's here's one. This is from New Orleans. It's a headline says judge determines man accused of killing WGN o sports producer in crashes a flight risk denies bond and you read through here.

The driver accused of causing Friday's crash killed WGN o sports producer. Mark Dean is being held without bond. During hearing in August on Tuesday, August 27 27th Orleans Parish magistrate judge Wanda Lombard says she rarely holds a defendant without bond.

But she agreed with state attorneys that the 29 year old Jorge Sanchez Martinez is a flight risk and I don't know if it gets you kind of read through here Let's see here I just want to see if it actually specifically identifies him as an illegal alien.

Well, here we go state state attorneys that ask that Sanchez Martinez be held without bond saying he was a flight risk because he lives in Louisiana illegally. They say aside from not having a license Sanchez Martinez also didn't have an ID and then he applied for a visitor visa in 2019 but was denied.

So yeah, so I mean, you know, here's another guy's illegal alien comes and and you know has a crash. And and kill somebody kills an American. I say you've got these prison gangs running around brandishing weapons on.

In apartment complexes, so so yeah, I mean there's you know. This kind of stuff goes on and it goes on all the time. And you know, I I say I know of someone personally Who was hit in who was hit it was in a car accident with an illegal alien they t-boned him the illegal alien driver was at fault and It left him permanently injured him.

He he survived he lived lived through the crash thankfully, but he was permanently injured. I I don't think he's worked in years since that crash happened and that's been a Good number of years now, I'd say I want to say maybe six seven years maybe longer I don't know time flies.

It seems like but but I know this particular individual has not worked since that time. You know how many stories are like that out there I don't know that's probably probably quite a few of them but the Pope says, you know if you complain about any of this and you don't like any of it and you want to Resist any of it and you don't want these people coming in your country.

Well, you know, you're you're a sinner. Well, I mean that's that is is a lot of who you know, again, he doesn't cite any any scripture for that.

Migrant Costs, State Spending, and the Politics of Irredentism

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Yeah, that's that's what's going on there with on the immigration front with with the Pope. I mean, he's just reiterating all of this sort of that that is Catholic. So she that is Roman Catholic social teaching and sometimes, you know, we as Americans. I know we tend to Like to be very practical things we don't want to buy.

Don't bother me with theory just tell me whether it works or not. Well, that's that's not really the correct approach to things because all practice is always the practice of some prior theory and. When you read through Roman Catholic social teaching They have a couple of really big ideas that that undergird their their immigration policy.

One of them is the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, you know, they're all one big family and. The other one is the universal destination of all goods.

So when.

So when you have this When you have these people that need, you know they can come into the country and coming into the country and and going on the welfare and and Showing up in emergency rooms and forcing taxpayers to take care of all your medical care.

Putting your children in schools that you don't pay for that degrade the school experience for the the children of Actual American taxpayers and while you have a right to do that and in any other thing that you seem to particularly need.

Well, you you can can take that as well and and that's what they do, you know, there was a An article today, let me take a look at something see if I can find this there's a website out there called border hawk that does it's it's basically it's a News aggregation website and they do they they aggregate.

It's just news stories things like that on the on immigration. Now, let's take a look here. Okay. Here we go. There was one story on here is talking about birthright citizenship. Now, that's something else that Is I know I've talked about that some here on the podcast and I've also written about that but that's basically this idea.

That.

When someone comes into the country. Doesn't have it on there. I thought I thought I saw that before. Maybe they took the story down. I don't know but anyway, it was talking about Donald Trump addressing, you know, possibly addressing the.

The.

The birthright citizens citizenship issue for illegal aliens. That is a serious problem by the way. That's and if you weren't aware that it what this means is that when if if a child is born on US soil in US territory that child is automatically deemed a American citizen regardless of what the citizenship status or immigration status is of the parents so you can have illegal alien Mother come across the border and give birth at a hospital and instant American citizen.

I had someone once I saw write about this. This is somebody who lives in a border town right along the u .s. Mexico border and they used to say that that The the border crossing guards would actually give priority to these women about to give birth.

So they make sure they could get into the United States so they can have birth and have their their citizens. They're their citizen US citizen child it's it is a fraud is an abuse of citizenship and that's something that that desperately needs to change and of course the When whenever that Addressing an issue comes up who's at the forefront?

Attempting to slap it down. Well, it's represents as the Roman Catholic Church. Because they know that this is something that's hugely beneficial to them and it's harmful to the American Republic. Let's see here.

What else do we have today? Oh a little bit on On I guess u .s. Election news here. This was a story from Fox News over the past week and it's got a headline says Harris camp hires activist reverend who claims Christianity has been hijacked by white supremacy and It's this person is Jennifer Butler.

The Harris waltz campaign has hired liberal activist reverend reverend Jennifer Butler to be its new head of faith outreach with Butler confirming the appointment on social media and an interview with religion news services.

So, you know, she thinks that I guess white supremacists have somehow hijacked the Christian faith. And of course, I don't even know what she means by white supremacist. I mean, that's that's the other thing.

That's one of these terms that gets thrown around and I don't know necessarily what that means. I Don't I don't even know what she's trying to define. I mean, you know There was a time with that that kind of had a meaning that you know was with somebody who thought well you know that that the white people are are better than everybody else and and and deserve to have more rights and things of this sort, but In in the parlance that that in the way, it's been used in recent years.

Basically, you're a white supremacist if you don't just if you don't hate white people. You know if you say it's okay to be white. You're a white supremacist. So, I mean, I I really don't know what she means.

And of course, you know, I mean She's not somebody who pays a lot of attention to the scriptures either because if she did she wouldn't Try to take on the title of reverend or to pretend to be a minister.

I mean women are not called to be ministers. But she doesn't mind doing that. At all. So, I mean I would expect that that you know, she's willing to throw out the what the Bible says about about women in leadership In a church and well, I would expect that she would would have those other types of Views as well.

They they all they tend to cluster together. You know when you you go wrong in one area. You don't just go wrong in that area, but it also has impact on on your views of other things as well. And of course, she's supporting this very evil woman Kamala Harris who is working really hard to bring the monstrous regiment to us.

We want she wants to have the monstrous regiment of Kamala Harris. So, yeah, I mean I would expect those two would Would be compatriots or would be be allies. Maybe that's the the better word for it. Here's another here's a story in fact, this is in religion news services it covers the same issue here.

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It says she's a Presbyterian minister no less must be PC USA. PC USA a long ago went went very liberal in fact the. The church that I go to is a is by it was a called a Bible Presbyterian Church. That's the denomination and.

And that that is a group that came out of the mainline Presbyterian Church the PC USA back in the 1930s and the reason was because of all the liberalism that was going on in the 1930s. In an end prior to that in the Presbyterian Church I mean liberalism theological liberalism has destroyed Presbyterian witness in America.

It certainly destroyed the PC USA and it and it tends to produce people like this Reverend Jen Butler Who claims that she's a minister and there's a well-known liberal religious advocate and I can say she's the new head of faith Outreach for the Harris Waltz campaign.

Well, I mean, I think she should probably be a pretty good fit for them. I don't think there's any question about that she knows how to To use all of the the right language. She's got all the right all the right cliches now.

There's one thing that was interesting here in this particular story. And this is the the story of religious news religious news network religious news service, excuse me, and She just recently signed on.

So I mean she's she's got got a lot of work to do in the next two months. And she says this she says ask whether the truncated election timeline gave her pause. Butler who was brought on board by the campaign two Days ago explained she was accustomed to writing campaigns on short notice.

She was quick to mention plans to reach voters and rust belt swing states the former blue wall states such as Michigan and Wisconsin. That Democrats could could once count on a national election, but it becomes swing states.

Well This is my comment well with all of the the fraud that's gone on and in all in you know That they they've made it in Michigan. I think they've made it virtually impossible to question the election in in Wisconsin, they've The Supreme Court decided to put ballot boxes back in.

I think the Democrats are going to steal both those states. Just like they stole them in 2020. So it's still a blue wall. It's just a blue wall instead of getting voters, you know, you just you just commit fraud.

But that's that's how the Democrats roll they just they they are the fraud masters, you know, they they don't have any good any ideas on how to To help the American people to make our lives better, but they can come up with all kinds of ways very clever ways of committing fraud.

I mean, that's really the only thing they got going for them. It comes to fraud I will tip my cap to them. Those guys are like world-class champions when it comes to committing fraud. No question about it.

But anyway This this Jennifer Butler person continues She says given the blue wall states the Catholic leaders and Catholic population are very important. So moving right away to set very high level Catholic table to engage folks.

Well now that's interesting. So, you know, she even this this apostate Presbyterian female minister. She wants to say that, you know, she she knows that that the Catholic vote is key to helping the Democrats win.

And.

Again, that's that is is not surprising. Now that's not to say that all Catholics vote Democrat. They don't but they tend to vote Democrat and.

The the.

Policies put forward by the Democrats tend to be essentially a reflection of Roman Catholic social teaching. I've said this before on this program, but you know, there was that that saying it was. There's a quote from a Presbyterian ministers Sam I'm drawing a blank right now must be like a senior moment or something Samuel D. Burchard.

Yeah, there it is. Samuel D. Burchard He was a Presbyterian minister in a Union Civil War event in 1884 and part of his speech he had that quote and he called the Democrats the party whose antecedents have been a rum Romanism and a rebellion and I have made this point many times.

But the the Democrat Party is one of the principal channels Through which the Roman Catholic Church has injected political Romanism into the American body politic and well, what's what's political Romanism?

Well, it's it's the welfare state. It's mass immigration. I Think you can even argue. It's it's gun control. It is I think you can argue the a lot of the homosexual movement has been pushed by The Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church is a very gay organization. It's a very homosexual oriented organization meant but anyway this this woman minister person wannabe she you know, she she notes here that the Catholic leaders and Catholic population are very important and they're moving to set up this high-level Catholic table to to help make sure that that the the Democrats win Michigan and win miss win, Wisconsin.

And it's with him interestingly enough here. It says members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Those are the Mormons are likely to be an important constituency in the critical swing state of Arizona.

But they make of a small but intellectual piece of the electric electorate so she. So she wants to to go after the the the Mormons as well. Let's see. Anyway, that's I haven't read through this whole article yet, but that's a few things there that I think certainly were were of interest.

So that's what the the Reverend Butler has big plans to to get get Kamala Harris in office, you know that. What's one of the things gonna be interesting here too is to see whether they actually go through.

With that presidential bait that's scheduled in I guess about a couple weeks. I think what is it September 12th? I want to say. The fact I even saw some reports tonight was, you know, Kamala's talking about all she's gonna back out of this thing and I was listening.

I'm gonna admit this. I couldn't listen to my regular podcast today when I was out biking I I listened to Alex Jones. I actually did listen to Alex Jones. And he was giving some analysis of this whole thing and and and he he was of the opinion that that The Democrats are gonna try to create some kind of an event either to give her something to get on a soapbox about or Maybe perhaps even cancel it but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't go through because I just don't see how she's able to go through a a Debate with Donald Trump because Donald Trump is a very good off-the-cuff speaker.

She is not. She's actually a very poor debater. And really is is not somebody who's comfortable at all on camera or behind the microphone. One last thing and I thought this was very interesting. I've talked some about free speech and the attacks of various Jewish groups on free speech here in the United States.