Open Air Theology "AI generated hot takes" with Andrew Rappaport

Open Air Theology, Conference Promotion, and AI-Generated Hot Takes

You can say what you want, but you won't around me. Sheep among misfits. A misfit in the trailer park at night. A misprint with the sixth sense. Been sick ever since my brother died of an O .D. My two cents never made sense.

Either to me or anyone else inside of the sheep fence. My ninth sniff on my right side. Why you staring at your dick on the dotted line? Tell me what's the bottom line. The bottom line is I'm not right.

I'm not left, but this elephant won't fight. There's nothing left but the spot me and the moon. In the deep end, and I can't find my assigned seat to sit in. My theology don't fit in. Black sheep of the Reformation, sheep pen.

I'm just another Baptist, baptized again. The bastard child of Anabaptist and beer can. And that intro every time, it gets me. I love it. That is a great song.

Yes. Well, I'm Brayden Patterson. This is Open Air Theology. I think the viewers tonight, if you're chiming in, I think you're in for a treat as we have a special guest with us tonight. But before we get to that gentleman, I'll introduce myself, and then I'll pass the mic over to Tom to let him introduce himself.

But I'm Brayden Patterson. I'm the pastor of Grace Bible Church in Moorpark, California. It's in Ventura County. If you live in that area, it would be a great blessing to see you at church in Moorpark coming here soon.

So I will pass the mic now that direction to Brother Tom.

Hey, everybody. My name is Tom Sheppard, and I'm a member of Grace Bible Church of Burning, Texas, not Moorpark. So same church name but different state. We're free here in the state of Texas. And I head up the Open Air evangelism team that we go out to Fredericksburg, Kerrville, Burnie, San Antonio, far south is Christy, and had a great Lord's Day today.

And today, special guest down below, striving for eternity, the rap report, Andrew Rappaport. Pass it down to you, brother.

Well, I clearly came prepared. You know, I got my reformed beard on just for you guys. I got my cigar right here. So I'm all ready. I know where I'm at. I'm set. Just for the record, my beard is longer than Braden's, but.

I knew you had to go there. To say that ever again. But my name is Andrew Rappaport. I'm with Striving for Eternity. My podcast, as Tom mentioned, is Andrew Rappaport's rap report. I also do Apologetics Live, which is, you can find it, apologeticslive .com, Thursday nights, 8 to 10.

But most people are listening here at Open Air Theology at that time. But you can always listen later to us. And I go to, and my name, church name, won't sound like any of yours. It is Oxford Valley Chapel in Levittown, Pennsylvania.

Awesome. I love it.

How was your night? Oh, it was good, brother. I do want to say, before we jump right into asking Lord's Day questions, if you haven't already, go to Open Air Theology on YouTube and subscribe to our new YouTube channel.

That's where this is mainly being streamed from, Open Air Theology on YouTube. We'd love for you to go and check that out. We'll be doing this every Sunday at 730 Mountain Standard Time, 830 Central Time, and then, unfortunately for Andrew, 930 Eastern Time.

When he agreed to do a night show, you thought it was going to be 830, your time, huh, Andrew?

That is correct, yeah. I get up at about 3 .30 a .m. But if you want, a good thing to do when you get up that early is jump into a nice cold plunge, and you'll be wide awake for the rest of the day.

I don't see how you do that. I saw that you posted on Facebook, it was like 26 degrees.

26 degrees outside this morning and 50 degrees in the cold plunge. So the cold plunge…. So you actually warmed up then. I actually did not want to get out of the cold plunge because it was warmer in the cold plunge than getting out, yes.

Andrew, that's too cold, brother. My son-in-law, we had family over yesterday, my son-in-law convinced all of his male cousins to do the cold plunge. Even my son, who I didn't think would ever do one, but they all jumped into the cold plunge.

It was hilarious. Of course, I went in first to make it look easy, and then they jumped in like, yeah.

It was great. Hey, how was everybody's Thanksgiving, by the way?

Mine was great. I don't want to interrupt Andrew, but mine was fantastic. We went and spent time with the family. My in-laws, we were able to have steak, tri-tip steak instead of turkey. I'm always going to take steak.

I know that might be sacrilege, but I'm going to take steak every time. So it was good stuff.

It was a blessing. I believe that the pilgrims had lasagna. I try to avoid the turkey. My sister-in-law was very gracious and had some penny vodka that she put aside just for me.

So my wife and I, we went over to some friends of ours at our church, Derek Kennedy, and they actually have a tradition at their house. I don't know if it's true or not, but they get five pieces of corn.

Apparently, the pilgrims in the very first Thanksgiving, they actually got five pieces of corn, and they would say a prayer over that, and they would talk about it. That's all they actually had on the first Thanksgiving.

They didn't have much at all. So they started with those five pieces of corn, and then after that, they were just talking about how God has blessed them. I don't know if it's true. It sounded like a good story, so I went with it.

It might have been five pieces of corn and lasagna, but there was definitely lasagna. Definitely lasagna.

No turkey? No, absolutely not. Well, how was your guys' Lord's Day today? So if you're new to Open Air Theology, you haven't seen this show before, again, subscribe to the YouTube channel. We would love to see you back again.

But we typically start out our shows talking about our Lord's Day since we're streaming this on a Sunday, and so we want to talk about what our church experience was like, what was the worship about, what was the message about, anything along those lines that we want to mention.

I think we should let Andrew go first. Are you okay with that, Tom?

All right, just this once. That's because after this I'll never be on again. It was a great Lord's Day for another reason. I was able to be joined by my daughter and son-in-law and my grandson. So that alone made it a wonderful day just to have them with us.

But the message today was on the Passover and looking at Christ as the Passover lamb. So we started out in Exodus Chapter 12 looking at what the Passover was, then going into looking at the Passover lamb.

And so it was really good. And then we got to just really follow that up as it goes into Hebrews and looking at Christ as the lamb, and then going right from there into the Lord's Supper, which was a communion service that we had today.

So it worked out very well. Good. That's awesome.

How was your day, Tom? So it was really good. Well, I'll tell you. So our pastor, Michael Beck, he had a stomach bug or something, and he was able to preach his sermon out of Romans 15 today. And so he called.

As a matter of fact, we normally do equipping very early in the morning or going over Theology 3 right now, and we're talking about the atonement. And so he called one of the guys at our church, whose name is Terry Riley, at 730 in the morning to take over the Sunday school class to talk about theology, to take over for that.

And he taught a class on the atonement in 1 Peter, which is fantastic. And then Frank filled in for him in a sermon that he had prepared. I guess he had it kind of, you know, in his back pocket. And that was in Micah 2.

And then this evening, we had a guest preacher. Actually, he's a member of our church, and he's been going to the Master's Seminary and graduated. And so he was able to give his very first sermon from the pulpit from our church tonight, and that was on Psalm 119, talking about how to be sanctified in walking through the Lord.

And that was all about, you know, just immersing ourselves in the word. So it was a really good Lord's Day.

What about you? Yeah, it was a blessed day. I didn't preach today. So last Sunday was my last time preaching behind the pulpit at Valley Baptist Church in Hagerman. And so the pastor that has taken the reins from me, he got to preach today.

And so he went over, just kept on continuing into the book of Galatians where we left off last. And so he was in the fruit of the spirit text. And so it was a blessing just to sit and worship God with one another.

It was really sweet. Just a lot of preparation, a lot of bittersweet moments right now. I got given a letter today from a wonderful brother and sister in Christ that, I mean, Emily and my wife and I, we were just tearing up reading it.

It was a very sweet letter that they wrote. So just very, very kind. So yeah, this week is the week that we're making the transition to go to Moorpark, California. And so the move is going to be 13 hours in a car with kids.

It's going to be intense. And what day is that? It's going to be Friday and we'll get there on Saturday. So we're going to cut that drive up in two different days. Spend one night somewhere in between.

It's going to be fun.

Wow. 13 hours with the kids. Yeah, get the iPads and earmuffs on them.

Five-year-old, three-year-old and one-year-old.

Boom. 13-hour car ride. Hey, just real quick before we go any further and everything. Jeff wasn't able to make it on tonight, but he might surprise us later. I don't know if you guys have seen the pictures of his church and everything that is coming along with the building.

Man, it's beautiful. He's really doing a good job. So I know he's unable to make it tonight, but who knows? Who knows? He might all of a sudden appear backstage and we could pop him on.

I can show some pictures of it real fast if you want. Yeah, let's do it. Because I think it looks phenomenal. They're doing a good job with it right now.

While you're pulling the pictures up, I really noticed that the way you guys have this laid out, just with whoever your guest is, ends up having Jeff looking down on them. Just look at that. Right to my left here, you've got Jeff staring at me like I'm saying something.

I'm just scared to say anything because it looks like Jeff is giving me the evil eye there.

That's where we've got all the guests right there.

Between that and someone in the audience from my channel just said, is that a goat smoking a cigar there on the other side? Folks, you've just got to look at the image you guys got here. Yeah.

Let's see it here. So this is just zoomed in with we'll click this. That will be better probably. So that's from the pulpit. Yeah, from the pulpit. So Jeff built this himself. Got a really nice piece of top wood that's there on top obviously.

And then it looks like it's in front of the pulpit there. Some picture of the pews with the new floor that they got done there. And the carpet. I like the carpet going all the way up. The carpet, yeah.

It's going to be perfect for those altar calls that Jeff does all the time. Just kidding. Jeff doesn't do that. He's going to get on here in a second and try to defend himself when you're saying that.

He won't defend himself. He's going to rebuke you.

That's right. Rightfully so. Rightfully so. At least you know how to get Jeff to come on. He's probably listening or he's staying with his wife right now. Honey, I know I said I'd spend some family time, but I've got to correct this, brother.

I've got to go. Well, you know what's cool is that we actually get to have the conference at his church this year. That's right.

Fantastic, yeah. That'll be a much nicer setting than the other year. Last year, it was set up in a place that was for theater. It just really wasn't.

There wasn't a good flow. Right. This actually has a church feel in the whole bit. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, and maybe this is a good time just to put the plug in for this. This February 20th to the 22nd, Tullahoma, Tennessee, at that church. I don't have the address off the top of my head, but it will be at that church most likely.

There's going to be a conference called War, and you can buy your tickets for this at openairtheologyconference .org. Go there, check it out. It's going to be a conference on sanctification. The three men that you see on the screen right now are going to have the privilege of being able to preach there.

That's one reason that we want to invite Andrew on here. Not only is Andrew a good brother in Christ, not only is he somebody that is enjoyable to talk with, not only is he somebody that you can joke with, which I really thoroughly appreciate, he's going to be preaching at this next conference.

Andrew, what are you preaching on? If you could encourage people to come to it. Maybe you don't want to encourage people to come to it. Maybe not. Tell us about the conference and why you think people should come.

First off, you can search for Open Air Theology Conference. You'll be able to get all the details, the tickets there. I do want to encourage you to check that out and make sure that you get your tickets.

Last year I did appreciate that I was first up, and being first up was great because it meant that I didn't have to be better than anybody because everyone else was better than me and it was fine. But now I'm going after Keith Foskey and before Jeffrey Rice.

I want to know who I upset to get in that position. The topic that I have is to deal with something that I think a lot of people might think is a done deal. The fact that Donald Trump won, there's people that think like, oh, social justice is over.

We won this battle. I'm going to be dealing with the idea of Christians in the woke culture, but it's actually out of Colossians 2. Chapter 2, verse 8. The same arguments that people are making for wokeness and social justice within the church is no different than what Paul was dealing with.

The empty traditions and philosophy, human philosophy of his day. Very interesting study. I'm not going to give away the good parts, but it's been a lot of fun studying that because it was real interesting the word usages that Paul uses there in verse 8 to describe how these empty philosophies capture people.

I'm just going to leave it at that.

If you want to hear more, go buy a ticket. That's right. Well, no, no.

Don't just buy a ticket. Actually show up. Show up and be ready to bring a pen, a notebook, and be ready for fellowship. The fellowship at these conferences is through the roof. It's just the atmosphere and everything that gets set up there is phenomenal.

I know, Andrew, you agree with that, just the way that that's phrased.

This is the thing I've said to Jeff is, look, I've been to a lot of conferences, whether speaking or attending. And the way Jeff organized it the very first year I told him, I said, this is the best organization.

He added an extra day so you have the same amount of preaching time. But it was like one hour preaching, one hour fellowship. So everyone had time to fellowship. And he was right. Most people go to conferences for the fellowship.

Preaching is great. But a lot of times at a lot of conferences, you don't listen to any of the messages because you're fellowshipping or you'll listen to some of them. And what people do is they pick and choose.

What Jeff decided to do was to say, no, no, let's make sure we have the fellowship time and that everyone pays attention to the message also. By structuring in such a way where half of the conference is fellowship time and then it ends in time for dinner.

And I think that really the best part of the conference is after the conference is over, we all go out to dinner. And this is something, look, if the conference is live streamed, you're not getting this if you don't attend.

And that is after dinner, we're sitting at Buffalo Wild Wings or wherever and just having a really good theology throwdown, just discussing different topics, different theological positions as brothers in Christ, but really discussing it biblically, meaning not that we're all in agreement, but we're all doing it with love and charity.

We can sit there and hear someone out and disagree with them and fight and then have a meal and laugh with one another.

The other thing, the benefit of that is it's not just the fellowship with the attenders. This is unlike any other conference that I've been to. You don't have the speakers that are hiding behind a wall or a door, trying to get in to actually get to talk with them.

All the speakers are fellowshipping the entire time with all the group of the attenders. So you're having coffee. You get to hear live podcasts that are going on. Keith Foskey has one. The Holy Nope is going to have one.

I mean, there's all kinds of podcasts going on. I think James White had one last year. So you're hanging around, and then you're just talking theology with everybody, free to take pictures, and it's just a blast.

The fellowship is second to none at this conference.

I think it's one of those you just can't beat it. Let me screen share just the webpage real fast that you're looking for, for anybody that's wanting to look into this conference. This is the webpage.

It's openairtheologyconference .org. It should look like this for you on the front. Just to show you some of these speakers, we have Michael Schultz, Jeff Rice, Brayden Patterson, myself, Tom Shepard, Hensworth Jonas, Andrew Rappaport, Keith Foskey, Marlon Wilson, Sam Waldron, Austin Keeler, Kofi, and brother every time I go to pronounce your last name.

Thank you, Andrew. You came in clutch there. Mark Chansky and Claude Ramsey. Listen, this is going to be such a blessing to be able to sit and hear these men preach. Like Tom just said, you're going to fellowship with these guys.

You're going to be able to meet them. You're going to be able to go up and sit down with them, get a cup of coffee with them, go and get dinner with them. It's going to be fantastic. Then there's going to be also a debate, Jeremiah Nortier versus Lucas, right here on Can a Believer Lose His Salvation?

There's some of the partnering. There's a pre-conference on the 19th that you won't want to miss out on too if you can make it to that.

The pre-conference is going to be on evangelism. The neat thing that we're going to do is after the conference is over on Saturday night, we're all going to go out and do some evangelism. So that's going to be a lot of fun.

I appreciate you saying that, brother.

Yes, it is going to be a lot of fun. Everybody does open-air evangelism. Everybody does it differently. So as a pastor, I always love watching other people do it to be able to take those tools and be able to adapt it to my own style and then to also be involved with it.

It's going to be really neat. I'm really looking for that. Kenny and Claire are making a return again. They were at the last conference. Blessing to listen to them. But, yeah, you're just going to come here, purchase tickets, and we really do hope to see you this coming February.

It'd be awesome. It'd be awesome. You know, with Kenny and Claire, you know, I had never heard them before until this conference or last year in February. They were absolutely fantastic. They are unbelievable.

And then I saw them again. As a matter of fact, this past year at a conference in Tyler, Texas. Oh, no, where was it? East Texas somewhere. And it was I mean, they were just rock solid, fantastic, you know, great.

I mean, if you don't have their album, I mean, definitely get it.

They came and played for our church here in Hagerman, a town of 900 people. The connections that you make at this conference is going to be phenomenal. And I'm telling you, each one of these people that are involved with this are part of a local body.

They want you to be plugged into a local body sitting underneath your own pastor. Or if you're a pastor, come and attend this. I think the blessings are a long list of reasons why you should come and attend this.

I think the song, the one that I like of theirs real quick, it's called Are You Weary. Man. That's good. Brayden cries no matter what, but I almost even cried on that song. Andrew Rappaport might even cry when you guys hear this song.

It's just fantastic. If you want to see your Andrew Rappaport cry, come February.

It might be icicles, though, with you getting in all those cold plunges, my guy.

I should bring a portable cold plunge and see who's willing to do that first thing in the morning. I can answer that right now, Andrew.

It's a no for me. They're throwing you in, all right.

Well, brothers, I know we don't have a long time tonight. So again, let me tell the audience, go check out Open Air Theology Conference. Also, go subscribe to our YouTube channel, Open Air Theology. It's a new YouTube channel on there that we'd love for you to go check out.

We're wanting to expand and eventually get on Spotify, and that'll hopefully be in the future. But

Yes, go ahead. Go ahead. So we did not know what we were going to do the show on tonight, and we're like, what in the world? We ask you guys sometimes, and what do we need to hear and stuff like that.

So I was like, hey, Brayden, why don't we ask AI? Why don't we ask AI what we should do the show on? And so I asked AI, and they said that a good show would be, how about Reform Baptist Hot Takes? So Hot Takes, Agree or Disagree, is a dynamic and engaging topic that invites lively discussion for audience interaction.

And so we have some questions here. So it's basically this. AI has created or generated their own questions, and you as the audience, we're going to send it to you. We're going to tell you guys. I'm going to basically ask the first question is this.

Do you agree or disagree? Spurgeon would have hated modern worship services.

And go. I think also maybe could we lay it like less caveats to how to answer these questions the better? Hold on. We have to answer this. Hold on. Yeah, I see.

I know which one you're putting up there. Oh, no. So the question that Troy is asking is, is Rappaport a disbee? The answer is Rappaport is a Rapportian. And so therefore, yes, he's biblical.

Tonight he's not a disbee. He has a cigar and he has a beard, so he's Rapportian.

Yeah, I'm ready for this show. I'm all set. I got my cigar and the beard for the show. So, look, I could say this, Troy. R .C. Sproul and I agree today.

Oh, my gosh. I'm being a Baptist, not covenant theology.

Get out of here. Okay, we're getting rid of that question.

Come to this conference if you want to see us argue more about this.

So where were you going to go? Where were you going to go with this on the question?

What I'm saying is let's not give too much background to why we answer the way that we answer. Because I'm going to say I think Spurgeon would be upset with our modern worship.

So, yeah. So I think we have to ask the question. And also it would really depend on where he went. If he's going to Osteen's church, he's going to throw up. What about in a modern day Reformed Baptist church?

Somebody who would label themselves a Reformed Baptist confessional church. Would he find himself acceptable to worship at a church like that?

First off, you got Troy's thing going, responding to me going, we forgive you, brother. Orthodox MacArthur is great. He says, I was wondering how long did this be question would take?

As a matter of fact, just to throw this in there. There was one matter of fact, not one him. Somebody else, Brandon Scalf had James White preaching at the church today. Yes. Yes, he did. I thought that that was cool.

But it wasn't you. So anyway, well. Yeah. So I think the thing to answer the question is, and you were kind of hitting on this, Tom, is we got to get to asking the question of what defines modern worship.

Because like you said, I mean, a Joel Osteen church versus a Reformed Baptist church is going to be a vast difference. Sure. So I'll say this. Would he be okay with Hillsong or Elevation or Bethel? No.

That I think we can clearly see because a big part of the end of his ministry was talking about the downgrade. The fact that the church was starting to give into the culture and was on a downgrade from what he the way he saw it.

And it was compromising. And so I think that looking at something like that, he would have had a strong view against this compromise of using music to lure people into feeling good about things that are not biblical, about churches that teach things.

And they use biblical lyrics at times to pull people in to go, oh, but look, this song is good. But they've been open about the fact that they use their music as a hook to evangelize, to use that word, Christians.

That's their audience.

Right. So let's tighten up the question a little bit. Let's tighten it up and say, would Spurgeon or let's even go beyond Spurgeon. Would the Puritans, if they were to go into your church today, would they run or would they worship?

Would they even allow musical instruments? Some of them. That's a good. Yeah. I mean, that's right. I mean, there's some of them that would it would be against that. So you have a piano or an organ and they might have an issue.

Sure. Yeah. Some would say that if you're not doing the Psalms. Sure.

Yes. We're looking at Sovereign Grace music today with Spurgeon kind of go. What is this? Or would he join in? And yeah, it's a good question.

I don't know. I was thinking about opening songs that were bar tunes. Right.

I was thinking of widening the question, too, with with it not just being narrowed in on like Puritans and liking the music part of our worship. But I don't think Spurgeon would be happy with how a lot of modern evangelicals go about church altogether, whether it's I think, Andrew, you mentioned it.

There's songs that are trying to be the hook to get people to come in and be evangelized to. How many church activities do we use that are not centered on the gospel? That's just meant for come in and enjoy the soccer activity.

Come and enjoy. You know what I mean? Like, I think Spurgeon is rolling over in his grave in that way towards modern evangelical across the board. Programs and everything to.

Yeah. And Spurgeon was one that had a lot of ministries. But I wouldn't necessarily label them programs, too. He was actually doing gospel ministry.

Yeah. Yeah. Their church used to go out and still does go out and do street preaching. Yeah. The church. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that what Spurgeon was against in what he referred to as the downgrade is a lot of what we see in today.

What used to be called the seeker sensitive, the church growth movement. This idea of appealing to culture to try to attract unbelievers to come to church. Unbelievers. Church is not for the unbeliever.

Exactly. If an unbeliever feels comfortable in church, then you're not preaching the Bible rightly. Right. Because they should either feel uncomfortable under the word of God, under conviction, or they're coming to repentance.

But when they feel comfortable, when the unbeliever is feeling like, hey, yeah, I enjoy coming here. It's a good time. Yeah.

That's not a good thing. As if it was a social event. Yeah.

Correct. And I think that Spurgeon would be against it, not just in, as, you know, I think it was Braden that said it, in not just the singing and the choice of songs, but how the preaching is being done.

Much of what goes on in many church services, and I'm going to, well, maybe I'll get myself in trouble. I credit or slash blame this on the charismatic movement, but much of what the charismatic movement has influenced is an emotional based worship experience.

And their church services are just that. It's actually kind of a condemnation on the more conservative cessationist churches that in Charismatic Magazine in the 1990s was blasting the Fundamentals Baptists because the Fundamentals Baptists would play the charismatic songs in their worship service.

Yeah. And Charismatic Magazine made the point of saying, these songs are designed for our emotional worship services that you guys condemn. Yeah. And yet you sing them in your service. And it's maybe one of the only times I agree with Charismatic Magazine, but it is so much of the worship service, not just the singing, but worship is also the preaching.

Everything that goes on in the service should be for the awe of who God is. That's what worship means, to be in awe of God or in awe of whoever you're worshiping. Our worship service should bring us in a state of awe before God.

Yeah. Much of the worship service in many churches today are nothing more than making people feel good, even about their sin, not when they got to change. God accepts you the way you are. God just had a human hole, you know, emptiness in his heart, and he needed you to fill it for him.

Right. I mean, that's what so much of the church today is about, me feeling good. And that is not what Spurgeon and the Puritans, they would be having a fit over that.

I like that you put, you know, that when we go to worship, that we should be in awe of God and there should be a trembling at his word, that we're going to worship the Lord, to hear God speak, you know, the preached word, the weightiness of the word, that God, that you are going to worship the creator of the heavens and the earth.

That God is completely other than we are. You know, he is magnificent. We should be trembling and with reverence in the fear of the Lord and worshiping him. And I think that's gone. I don't see that in a lot of places today.

Well, because most of what we call churches are nothing more than goat farms. Yeah. Yeah.

It is what it is. Yeah. My mind, when you were just talking about that, when both of you guys were saying that we have faith in a God, the God, that when Christ returns, unbelievers will seek out the mountains to fall upon them.

And yet we get so worried about offending unbelievers in a church service.

Yeah. Like, what?

Like, let's make them feel comfortable and happy. No, that's not what this is about. Nothing should be making them feel comfortable or happy. It should be focusing and trying to have them be focused upon who God is and how that's the only means of salvation is placing faith in the finished work of Christ.

Yeah. We're not trying to make them feel uncomfortable. Totally. People don't understand, like, Brayden and I are not saying they should feel like, that we should purposely try to make them feel uncomfortable.

Yeah, shake their hands with the left hand just to be weird and awkward. That's no.

No. But we, the preaching from the pulpit, it's, look, if you're going to a church on Sunday, and I'll give you my pet peeve, it's a hot take. Should churches sing happy birthday in a worship service?

No. Okay. Why? The church service, the worship service is not about us. It's about God. And that's where all the focus should be. It shouldn't be on me feeling, making myself feel good or trying to make others feel good.

It is for an audience of one. Every individual is there to an audience of one. When you're corporately singing, when you are listening to the proclamation of the word, when you're fellowshipping, when you're giving, all of that is for an audience of one, God.

Between you and God. That's well said, Andrew.

Yeah, absolutely. That's well said. So here's another question. You guys ready or no? Let's hear it. Small groups are unbiblical. Agree or disagree?

Well, this way, and this may throw Brayden into whatever he was going to say. You're going to have a tough time with that if you, if you take a look at the book of Nehemiah. I say that for this reason.