One American is so excited about this, started a whole organization, it all comes out of the Indian film world, nothing to do with foreigners, and it's production comes out of the Indian film world, but this American is so excited about it, he's got some kind of rights, it's already gone through the cinema in India in some areas, not every area, millions and millions of Hindus seeing this film, many of them come out of the cinema just weeping, not a film you would probably enjoy unless you're very Asian in your thinking, or you would find it over dramatic, but that's amazing, God has raised up that film, we now have a number of our own prints, and we have a number of film teams out in the villages showing that film, and now we're in the era of the videocassette, and as usual the church is limping, only 10 years behind, not too bad, considering in some things we're 25 years behind, we want to try to be optimistic, but how sad it is that the church has yet to do very much with the videocassette, which is rapidly in the subcontinent becoming a major means of communication, especially for Satan, new movies, pornography are in the subcontinent, even in places like Bangladesh, where you would think of things being a little bit backward, the videocassette is everywhere, I found out from a missionary there, when you go into Bangladesh you can take 7 videocassettes free, and many many upper class people in that country are watching Christian videocassette, of course we need them in the language of the people, and that's going to be a long road, an expensive road, but the audio cassette is certainly launched, and it's just one more of many many ways that millions are being reached with the word of God, illiterate people, all kinds of people, that may sound a little bit optimistic, and maybe it's always good for me to start that way, because I have a very deep pessimistic streak, that I inherited from my grandfather, who was an atheist, but the fact is that when I come out here now, I've been visiting, used to live out here, but either living or visiting this part of the world for 24 years, when I come out here it really is overwhelming, and if you are a very phlegmatic temperament, and you have perhaps just a smaller vision, and it just needs to see what's just near around you, and if you're seeing some breakthroughs there, then you're highly motivating, I have tremendous admiration of you, I can't understand you, but I have a great admiration, but I come as a man of much sorrow, so many lost people, and I've tried to run away, I desperately tried to run back to agnosticism, I'm not a normal natural Christian, I'm a natural backslider, I've struggled all my life with Christians and with Christianity, I don't believe things easily, I've wrestled with the doctrine of hell every year since my conversion, trying to sell it off, I've studied under unbelievers, agnostics, atheists, I've talked to many intellectual Muslims, who I know can sometimes take a Christian and reduce them to powder, because intellectual Muslims, like one of our men is facing in Berlin right now, they have arguments against the Bible, that the average person hasn't even studied in seminary, this fellow wrote to me, no, he saw me personally, he said, I've got to have some books, I can't answer the questions that these Muslims are asking, pointing out all the contradictions in the Bible, and I've looked at many of those things myself, I've studied higher criticism, so I'm not a person who has found faith easy, I've tried to run away, so that I wouldn't have to believe that all these people were lost, that would relieve a lot of pain, to believe that somehow all these Muslims will make it some other way, there's some other chance, if you and I blow it, and we seem to be doing that, speaking of the church as a whole, then maybe there's some other way, that will relieve a lot of pain, a lot of pressure, because people are suffering for the sake of Jesus Christ, people are in prison, people are being killed, one of our men was shot on the doorstep in Turkey, then the one in a truck in the southern part of the Sudan, where there are no medical doctors, flipped over in the truck and died on the road, not an easy thing to watch, as his co -workers had to watch, four of our other people returning, from one of the biggest campaigns we ever had in this part of the world, were all killed, hit by a drunken driver, and you just love it, so personally if these people aren't lost, I'm not sure, how much more of the pain and the pressure, some of us want to endure, now I know the other side of the coin, I know the humanist side, and they say look it's worth all this effort, because we are relieving suffering, this is why work like we are involved with here, with Serif, is esteemed very highly even by unconverted people, the general work of OM, people spit on, they spit on it, they think it's the biggest waste of time, even a high percentage of evangelical Christians, believe that if you are just winning men to Christ, giving literature, showing Christian films, talking to people about their souls, that is bigotry, that is the biggest waste of time you could ever throw your life into, sometimes we wonder why it's difficult getting recruits, from the world today, now sure your church may not believe that, when I preach at Oswald J. Smith People's Church, in a few weeks they don't believe that, but the overall picture today, is not really so in favor of just evangelizing people, and of course there is an element of truth in that, and so we know that there are actually unconverted people, who are actually humanists, committed especially to refugee work, in fact the person on the cutting edge of refugee work in Africa, said they can't get Christian recruits, they have to depend really on non -Christian recruits, to carry out some of the heavy stuff, in the starvation zones, and difficult areas of Africa, perhaps that needs a little bit of research, it was only stated to me by a refugee person, I don't know if that's true, we do know it was unconverted humanists and agnostics, with men like Bob Goldorf, who really spearheaded one of the biggest fundraising programs in all of history, I heard recently by the way, they gave a lot of that money even to a Christian group, because it seems that they have a side of the coin, they are acknowledging that oftentimes the Christian groups, are able to carry on this work more effectively, but that seems to be a contradiction from what this other man said, well this is just in way of introduction, that I come to you 25 years later, since I first visited Kabul, a wounded person, I come to you a person of great sorrow, I know some people don't fit any sorrow into their theology, and those kind of people make me even more ill, that I try to love them anyway, because I believe there is a place of sorrow, the Lord Jesus is a man of sorrow, and when we see suffering I don't think we should just praise the Lord verbally, my heart is a heart of continual praise, because he has written his law in my heart, the Psalms are in my heart, but I think of those words in Corinthians, that say, we're sorrowful yet always rejoicing, and one time after my visit to Asia, and I arrived back to England, one of my closest friends had died, a man named Norman Alexander, one of the Englishmen who urged me to start OM in the first place, at least make it a legal organization in Europe, and he had just died suddenly of a heart attack, and I went to his funeral in a great British canon, I don't know if you know much about Anglican terminology, but one of the exciting things about the Anglican church, is they have canons, and that always stimulates me, and anyway this canon was firing at the funeral of my friend Norman Alexander, and he spoke of a place of sorrow at the time of death, that the loved ones could not be ashamed if there was sorrow, even if that sorrow was somewhat linked with their own needs, and the one who died is in heaven, we all know that, but there's elements of struggle for the loved ones, I'm involved in counseling and writing to many people, fighting bereavement, some of you know Irma Emter, who married Ingmar, who was an OMer, and then the Swedish diplomatic corps, and then the United Nations, and then he came back to OM, I was never really that happy about it, but he was so committed to come back to OM, he felt that the United Nations was wasting his time, he wanted to get where the action was, and he came back to OM, married our senior leader on the ship, Irma, and shortly after they were married a year or two, he was killed the day after Christmas in that terrible accident, on an icy road in Sweden, and I think that's over two years ago, and from what I understand, this dear woman is still finding this extremely difficult, she was there to see him crushed to death, next to him, in a car, I've been thinking a lot about this whole area of suffering, I seem to be exposed to so much of it, I guess it's because I correspond with a lot of people, I know a lot of people, I love a lot of people, pray for a lot of people, and so many of them seem to have facing suffering, and in North Africa, one of the best Islamic experts, one of the men we needed the most with GMU, Gospel Missionary Union, suddenly was just hit with cancer, six months ago, he's gone, gone, bit of a mystery, we worked so hard to find so few, willing to work in North Africa, another young man married an ex -OMer, went off to North Africa, and died of hepatitis B, within his first year on the field, so maybe I'm overexposed, I picked up a book by E. Stanley Jones, sometimes criticized by the super fundies, thought a man of God, I had the privilege of meeting him, when we ministered together at the Merriman Convention, a man with a tremendous heart for this part of the world, a man who loved Christ, and won many, many, many hundreds of Hindus to Jesus Christ, he wrote a book on human suffering, I just saw it in this library in the International Church in Rawalpindi, where I was speaking two nights ago, I wanted to sit down and read it on the spot, and in traditional E. Stanley Jones style, he had a quote from Buddha, that sort of spoke to me, because it reminds me of a quote by Billy Graham, Billy Graham, my spiritual father, said life at its best is filled with sorrow, and that's quite amazing, coming from a southern optimist like Billy, Stanley Jones mentioned in the beginning of this book, just in the first chapter, that Buddha taught, and I would reject a lot that Buddha taught, you can be encouraged about that, but he taught that existence and suffering are synonymous, existence and suffering are synonymous, maybe that would make you sad, but it ministered to me, because I see so much suffering, these two weeks in Pakistan to me are just so overwhelming, I work among the poor, like the famous cricketer David Shepard, I have a bias toward the poor, and I go from busty to busty, nothing like many of you who live here, and it just blows your mind, you start to come unglued if you are a character like me, too emotional, too many things, can't handle it, there is so much suffering in Pakistan right now, in this meeting I can be a little more free than other meetings, and talk even about Bangladesh, a land of terrific suffering, more than even Pakistan, and I've been told by reliable sources, and I want to be careful what I say about Pakistan, it's a country I very much love, and I love Bangladesh as well, and I've been told by reliable sources, by the way I lived in these countries when they divided in two, I flew on that flight with PIA, taking all soldiers, I was the only civilian on the plane, from Karachi to Dhaka, men who were sent there, to murder and to rape and to kill, many of them were from the villages, they didn't even know what they were doing, couldn't even fly over India, we had to fly to Sri Lanka, 1970 -71, but somebody, a reliable source in Bangladesh, said the entire country is completely corrupt, everything is corrupt, nothing moves, nothing happens without bribery, and the problems that that country faces are staggering, and as I went out to that Bihari refugee camp, right next to our own base, there in Dhaka, and just, every year I go, I go to the Bihari refugee camp, I don't know if the same people are there, I don't think they are, as you know, in the crisis in Karachi, just a few weeks ago, maybe the newspapers said 100 were killed, everybody in Karachi knows it was 2 -3000, were slaughtered in those riots, India doesn't want the Biharis, Pakistan doesn't want the Biharis, and you can be sure Bangladesh doesn't want the Biharis, in the partition in 1947, they fled out of Bihar into a Bengal area, with their Udu and their language, I don't know if some of you know Hindi, they sided with Pakistan in the civil war, and yet at the end of the war, Pakistan could not, would not, could not, would not absorb them, they are slowly trying to absorb them, it's incredibly complex, and I have great sympathy with government leaders, and the problems they wrestle with, I guess Ronald Reagan is just about being stoned to death, at this point, through his blunders, and I don't excuse blunders, and I don't excuse hypocrisy, but I believe the word of God teaches, that as a Christian, I should pray for these leaders, and I will tell you, they have an impossible job, even if they are, even if there were one that were righteous, when they started, I'm not sure if they could continue, being righteous, and I think of a man I know, Pat Robertson, running for President of the United States, my brain almost seizes up, in the upper level, because I just, I just can't believe, that he understands, what politics and government, really must involve, praying for the Christian students of Rawalpindi, I spoke to them just yesterday, and some of them have an official meeting, to meet with the President of Pakistan, in the coming days, it's very interesting, because last minute, the principal of Gordon College, cancelled my meeting, because the Muslims, were having a meeting upstairs, and the Christian students, ran a protest, and he reinstated the meeting, providing me with some literature, interesting that Gordon College, founded as a missionary institution, Christian institution, by missionaries, by Andrew Gordon, today is a stronghold of Islam, incredible, maybe 50 Christian students there, a few of them would be witnessing, pray for them, but basically the school is, of course, nationalized, and of course, in some ways therefore, a stronghold of Islam, quite an interesting emotional experience, to go through that school, yesterday, I hope you studied the history of mission, in Pakistan, I know most of you are here, because of your burden for the Afghans, so you can study that history, as well, church history in Afghanistan, is a short history, perhaps Gordon could write it, but it's good, since you're living in Pakistan, to read church history, to get something of the feeling, of this great nation, where God has worked, where there are now, a hundred million people, now you can help me, with my scripture reading, because I couldn't find it, I don't always get, a super fresh message, when I come to share, but lying on the bed, trying to rest my voice, praying, I just got a message, that I've never preached before, I touched on the subject, but I've never preached, this message under this title, it's a call, to be big hearted, in the work of the kingdom, now have you ever had, that title before, a plea, a call, to be big hearted, in the work of the kingdom, raise your hand, you've had a message on that, well, maybe it's going to be original, and I was thinking, you know, when you get a message from God, you need to get a text, otherwise you always get, some little unhappiness, that feels that things, circulate around Bible texts, I'm sure I believe the Bible, as much as anyone here, but I believe that, when we live in the spirit, for 32 years, that the word of God, is so saturated us, when we pray, when we walk in the spirit, things come to our mind, from God, that are not necessarily text, now, if it is in disagreement, with the text, of course, then you've got to throw it out, but if what I share with you, is in basic line, with what you see, in the word of God, then it's worth showing over, anyway, as I was praying, I remembered this text, where the disciples, were a little upset, because they met, some other people, who were healing somebody, and they weren't part, of the discipleship, they weren't part, of Jesus, group, apostles, and I wonder, who is a Bible scholar, that can come up, with that passage, of scripture, because I, only had a few minutes, to look, and I couldn't find it, who can find that, any other similar, one or two other, similar passages, I was thinking of, when Jesus, was asking the disciples, to be a little bit, more broad minded, and to just realize, those that weren't, against him, were for him, that's almost, an exact quote, and who's going to come up, with the scripture reading, well, we got some hints, like a quiz game, Mark or John, this brother suggests, in Mark, chapter nine, someone read it to us, by the way, while you're looking for that, let me just mention, we've had some exciting, book sales, on this little team, I want to introduce, Benjamin, my son's name is, Benjamin, so that's really, encouraging, Benjamin is one of our, full time, Pakistani brothers, the greatest change, you know, in Pakistan, is that we're becoming, registered as a Pakistani, organization, and we are taking on, many more, slowly, slowly, full time Pakistanis, in fact, we have our first, Pakistani family, and we're just getting, a little more prepared, in case, you know, this visa thing, doesn't go as good, as it is going right now, many of us laboring, have these wonderful, missionary visas, and that's good, and we need to be very thankful, and very sensitive, and very wise, in all that we do, but we're glad, many Pakistanis, are joining, OM Pakistan, and of all the nations, that OM works in, in the world, credibility, for OM, in Pakistan, is as high, as any nation, I know of, it's quite amazing, the way, the church, is so, given us, such a right arm, of fellowship, Church of Pakistan, Presbyterian Church, brethren, I could spend, my whole year, just fulfilling, invitations to preach, in Pakistan, and we thank God, for Mike Wakely, and the gift, God has given him, to work, and to be an encouragement, to the church, in Karachi, a hundred came out, to our Christian leader seminar, in Lahore, over, way over, a hundred came, to the OM base, for just a reception, they traveled, from Lujanwala, just for a one hour, challenge, anyway, we brought some books, with us, I don't know, where they're displayed, right behind Gordon, including, the newest edition, of Operation World, which is like, an absolute gold nugget, in this part of the world, 500 pages of prayer, material, that will keep you busy, for a long time, and we are especially, featuring, the writings, of A .W. Tozin, my friend, Ken Stan Jones, said to me, that this trip, would be worthwhile, forgive me, if this is a misquote, but I think he said, this trip, would have been worthwhile, if the only thing, that happened, was you discovering, the writings, of A .W. Tozin, that's correct, isn't that exciting, and I know, that if you haven't discovered, this man's writings, you will be happy, that you came, this afternoon, knowledge is a holy, whatever happened, to worship, the pursuit of God, and a few others, and then, there are things, of lesser density, like Verwer cassette tapes, which sell so cheap, that I know, that O .M. is losing money, but I guess, by the time, they get out here, somehow, they get devalued, and they're available, with a lot of other material, I also, a fanatic lead, in music, as a minister, to the ministry, to the heart, and I think, and these are all, contemporary, music cassettes, I'm in no way, trying to sell them, it's just a service, and they're not cheap, so don't even feel, you have to look at them, contemporary, Christian, praise, worship, music, now who has found, the passage, 938, read it, please, George, the picture says, John, we saw a man, driving out demons, and we told him, to stop, because he was, not one of us, you're not stopping, Jesus says, no one who does, a miracle in my name, can be sent, in the next moment, to say anything bad, about me, so whoever is not, against this, is full of it, I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you, a cup of water, in my name, because you belong, to Christ, will certainly not, lose his reward, praise the Lord, let's just pray, father, this message, is just so burning, on my heart, and I know, Lord, you've heard, and helped me, to touch on these things, in passing, in other messages, and I don't know, why it's taken me, 32 years, to come forth, with this, series of thoughts, that you've given me, from your words, but I believe, it is important, we know, a lot of people, are probably, going to eventually, listen to this cassette, and we pray for them, wherever they are, that you would, enlarge their vision, enlarge their heart, and use them, for the kingdom, in Jesus name, Amen.