First DL in the New Mobile Command Center!
Jumped into our new 5th wheel to test out all the work Rich has been doing putting together a rapidly deployable and usable mobile studio in the wonderful office space in our new unit. Went well! He has more tweaking to do, and I have a lot of pictures to put up yet, but we are started.
Headed to Utah on Thursday, debate on Saturday with Shabir Ally. Covered a bunch of topics from the Apocrypha to the Qur'an to Phil Vischer! Hope to do another program on Thursday after six plus hours on the road.
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greetings and welcome to the dividing line and welcome to our new digs at least when we're on the road um i know i'm not sure who has been looking forward to this more me or rich rich is on the other side wall actually that's not where he will normally be in this situation but he has spent significantly more time in this little room than i have so far and that's why there's a camera there there's a camera over there see there's a let's see here uh yeah hello how are you doing oh you see chuck norris over there um so uh that's why there's uh there's uh monitors and wires and everything works and uh and here we are so for those of you not familiar with the background here we started um back in 2021 i was starting to get stir crazy uh i wasn't traveling nobody was traveling this was you know when the the biden regime and the globalists were attempting to put us all in prison and inject us with stuff that we now know without a question was absolute poison uh and has resulted in far more deaths than covid ever did by a long shot and no one's been held accountable for that and no one ever will be held accountable for that until the great day of judgment that is anyway um and so you know i wasn't going to be flying and i wasn't gonna be taking shots and i wasn't gonna be wearing masks and so and i'm hearing myself out there and um so we tried to figure out how can we get back out in the churches start doing some traveling things like that i can hear myself rich um and uh so i told you he's trying to listen and i'm hearing myself echoing and it's not going to work very well that way um so we're like all right uh i think i was looking at the internet or something one day which happens fairly frequently and i all of a sudden thought of an rv now i had never rv'd in my life um didn't know what in the world that would involve but it was like why don't we why don't we rent a little rv and i'll go visit my friend uh in uh derrick in uh oklahoma and we'll just we'll just see how it goes and it was a disaster okay i destroyed the air conditioner within two to three hours of picking it up um rvs are tall things and people don't think along those lines and um so water came pouring in the first uh the first thunderstorm i hit and by all by all rights i should have given up and just gone home but i didn't and i i kept saying myself keep that separate could you do this and thankfully derrick melton the pastor in the church we went to visit there in prior oklahoma uh had a uh trailer himself his it's a pull behind the one we rented was a 19 foot self -contained little thing and he had a lot of advice we took almost all of it the only piece of advice he gave us that we didn't take we eventually took down the road um and that was getting a diesel truck but uh i got back and i'm like yeah i think we could do this so we bought a 29 and a half foot grand design uh fifth wheel and a 2018 gmc 5 .3
liter which we thought was big it's not um gas truck which is a wonderful truck that that ecotech engine was amazing it really was um given its size anyway and that's how we started traveling and i was nervous i had trouble hooking up um it was real challenge i went all the way up to moscow idaho with it early on and had some pretty interesting experiences along the way and that's what started this i think on this next trip i'll get up to 95 000 miles that i've now pulled a unit and this is our fourth unit um we uh i was sitting in a park in texas and i was thinking i was sitting at the at the kitchen table we started doing the dividing line from the kitchen table so if i'd reach up and i type anything the whole camera would shake so it's just one of those just one of those uh little you know webcam things uh sitting on top of my laptop screen and a window in the background stuff like that and i came up the idea hey why don't we uh get a larger unit has like bunk beds in it and i'll sleep in a bunk bed and we'll convert the uh bedroom into a studio and rich did such a good job with that both of us have admitted that was that was ideal it really was and it worked really well until the jaco unfortunately was made during covet and most of the rvs made during covet um i'm not sure where they're gonna end up but they're not gonna be used for much maybe target practice something like that i don't know but um then uh then we got the last unit that we had which was the redwood a beautiful beautiful unit 40 feet long i could never have handled that at first we went from 29 and a half to 34 and a half to 40 and this is 40 as well this is a 40 foot fifth and the only reason we uh we left the last one is it had a problem that wasn't a covet coach um and it surprised everybody people including people in the industry that we had the problem that we had with a separated wall um in fact we were so i was so happy with that setup that remember the last trip i was in texas and um you know i was talking to rich let's put toppers on this thing toppers are the things that rvs have slide outs that go out and that that's what allows you to have all the room inside and the tops of those slide outs they'll get exposed to the sun rain whatever um and a topper is a thing that detaches the top in this it's it's a fabric type thing comes out with it and protects the top of the slide out from sun and rain and things like that and we had had toppers on the jaco and i was going hey let's go ahead and put toppers on this thing we had one other thing we were going to do we're going to invest more in it because i figured with the new truck that we got and this was perfect couldn't get any better and then something started happening and i started noticing what was happening and so to make a long story short um whichever i made very long anyways uh we took delivery a few weeks ago of this thing and and when we started looking um when we had problems the jaco initially i had asked repairman what brands are you called out to work on the least which ones do you almost never have to fix and one of the companies our research indicated a new company but man they make a high quality unit and so we started looking at them and when we saw this floor plan and i showed it to rich we both had the exact same reaction um this is the like i said it's the same size as our last one it's two inches shorter but um it's same length and similar floor plan except for one big thing i'm in the very back of the unit so i'm right now i'm facing the back windows of the unit okay so i'm in the looking at the corner we have the windows open but somewhat shaded um so i'm able to see people driving by here in the rv park that we're at and see where the sun is and things like that uh which is really nice i enjoyed that when we first started doing this in the grand design um but it's an office now it can be a lot of things it's actually it's actually plumbed and stuff right over here we could put a washer dryer in here we have actually have a washer dryer in the bedroom um this could be what they call a mudroom like if you were to take it skiing or something like that and you know you come in there's a door you can see there's a there's two doors behind me the one on this side right there that is an outside door first time i've ever had a unit that had two outside doors and then right there right above my head there is the door into the living area and i'm going to have all sorts of pictures back there they're already there i just have to put them up carefully you can see uh p52 um a beautiful scan of they had just done new high resolution images of p52 that i was able to grab and um that's a really really nice one and you can't see that's that's a shame um you can't see what's what's there maybe i'll adjust the camera sometime but uh that's a really cute picture of my cats but it's not really my cats you can never get six cats to sit for a portrait like they're at olin mills you know it's not going to happen uh so i did it with ai i did it with imagine and it really does look a lot like them and it's super duper cute but uh yeah i've got a bunch of other pictures and you can just barely see man i'm gonna really have to do some changes of the angles here but up above my head uh there's a picture of my wife and i in somewhere in germany in 2017 is my kids favorite picture of us together it is sort of cute um but uh so i'm gonna have there you know pretty much just for my life uh things like that no no fancy colors um none of that stuff no rock walls um but this is so perfect that i'm just gonna be able to walk in here set up the computer plug it in turn it on and not only work but this is where i'll be sitting um this coming saturday i need to find out what time it is um when i debate shabir ali on who faithfully teaches the message of jesus muhammad or paul or muhammad and it's a two -part debate obviously um when i when we start i'll be defending paul and then the second part will be uh shabir defending muhammad i'm really looking forward to this debate um it's a debate that shabir has done before and shabir and i have done elements of it before he and i debated in 2008 in london and we touched on a fair amount of this material and he debated david wood on abn in 2015 and um i've put more work into this than i expected to but there you go uh it hopefully it'll be very useful it'll be shown live at the um there's a whole group that's doing a bunch of stuff uh in regards to evangelizing muslims and they're going to be this is going to be part of that george sayeg and his group um this is going to be a part of what they're going to be doing on on saturday and so looking forward to that uh yes i i can hear the things in the background too there are rats and mice running around in the other room evidently um so i'm sure he's trying to be quiet but uh it's not working out that well anyway so the cool thing is uh while i'm traveling you know you get done with a six hour drive you're a little bit on the tired side it was a little rough in the last unit to have to put up lights and cameras and put up the background and it was a lot of work to then take it back down it's not going to be an issue here um i'm going to be able to just put the put the computer out get to work do work and this is where i'll be sitting to do the debate with shabir ali because it's going to be online um and uh that's this is absolutely perfect when we saw this office we're like were they thinking about us and we did we did a little looking around there were a lot of people especially during covid that started going i need to work from home or i need to work from the road and um so that's must be where this came from and this company is very innovative does a really good job in um thinking ahead and uh listening to customer feedback and things like that and so so this is this is absolutely fantastic uh rich has been having a grand old time i don't think he's dislocated his knee this time which he did uh in the jaco uh at least i hope not and still got a few things he wants to do uh this desk that i'm at goes up and down and so i could actually stand and not do the program well i suppose i could but why would i do something like that doesn't make any sense um but yeah sometimes if i've been driving for six hours it might be nice to stand for a little while if i'm returning emails and doing stuff like that so there you go all right so thanks to everybody who's made this possible and um you know i leave on thursday which is when the next program normally would be it's a it's a good six hour drive uh to my stop this time around uh will we do a program well we'll see um the the issues are am i feeling up to it after that trip and then the other issue obviously always is can we get a good enough internet connection to do the to do the program and uh we have two options we have 5g cellular and we have starlink and the 5g is obviously faster to set up doesn't have any setup time at all but since we knew what we were gonna be doing here um in fact rich just showed me uh let's see it's right up there right up there um he was just looking around amazon and this this guy designed a means to put the starlink stuff the the control box and the the router into this attachment and just route everything to just one spot instead of it being all over the place like it used to be and so he grabbed one of those and it it almost takes up no room at all and and we worked with the dealership and we've got everything run so that the starlink cable comes up through the floor and it's we put a lot of thought into it and um it's um you know once the uh the next communist regime takes over uh in the united states and tries to put us all in the huskow this might be how everybody's traveling uh in the future then again the uh the communists may never let the uh the government function like they're not right now um and you know no tsa agents though i i do believe the babylon b has come up with the solution to the current problem and if you're standing in a tsa line today uh blame the communists um but if if i think babylon b these guys are brilliant um they said we should turn over all the tsa stuff to chick -fil -a and uh that all the lines will disappear and it'll be done with a smile and um you'll be thanked for having come to fly and uh everything so i i don't see any reason not to do that i i think that's probably a really really good way to do it uh i do get to see all sorts of different kinds of dogs too when you're in a when you're in an rv park it's a unique place it really is a unique place um so anyhow hey since we were last together uh chuck norris passed away and you know 86 year old people die um that's not really unusual but that struck me as strange you know i think it struck a lot of us as chuck's never gonna die well we all knew he would but um you know you think back i think back on on my wife and you know he's just always sort of sort of been there and then you know walker texas ranger was a lot of fun but then when the chuck norris jokes started oh my goodness that was absolutely amazing the some of the best jokes ever ever put together and you know he made a profession of faith i i hope it was uh genuine it seemed like it was um it seemed like a really nice guy and um so you know part of aging is recognizing just how many of your childhood heroes and stars um you see them today and oh my they are yikes um really really really old struggling and um oh this is going to be fun uh be prepared rich our next door neighbors are coming uh there's an open slot next to us and they're trying to get around that corner but they didn't go wide like you and i do they they made it they're a little bit shorter than us but i'll bet you dollars donuts i'm gonna see him hang a left here and pull in right next to us uh no okay never mind this is a live live program kids um you know i'm getting good at guessing that one's about a 37 footer i'd say not including the two bicycles on the back uh the rv life is is is a slower paced life i will tell you that um i see a lot of full -timers out here husbands and wives they sold their houses and this is how they they sell i see other other kids and their grandkids is they'll spend a month here a month there you know whatever uh like i've said rv park evangelism is a valid valid thing i i've got some good ideas if i decided that i'm tired of all the apologetics you know i've gotten to 225 debates or something like that i i think we we'd know how to do this you just set up a telescope at night put it right on the main drag and you'll have more people to talk to than you know what to won't be able to shake a stick at it i'm not sure why you've ever wanted to shake a stick anyways but that's how it goes all right back to the old chuck uh 1940 to 2026 um you got it you got to realize that life is brief scripture tells us about it all the time like a vapor and um you know you either live it well you don't and the sad thing is in our world today in the secular world naturalistic materialism has so destroyed our view of life and our view of the value of human life every day you know you you go online you turn on social media and things like that and what you see just empties you it it really does the absolute detestation of life that you see is amazing hey i saw a movie yesterday uh i saw project hail mary and i understand a lot of you have never heard of project hail mary before i read the book years ago well i listened to the book years ago i listened to audible and that was a very well done production on audible by the way and if you enjoy the movie you might want to listen to the book because you know they had to take a lot of stuff out it was still two hours and 40 minutes not a short film but um i understand that it's the biggest domestic opening day ever for any non -franchise film so you know the avengers and stuff like that those are franchises and so you know you've already got these other movies that get people to come but this was just a standalone film and so 33 .1
million it took 200 million to make it and without too many spoilers because it's all over the internet they decided not to do a bunch of cgi and there is an alien in the film named rocky and they did an animatronic puppet they it was not a you know hand up there but um they didn't do cgi and they built a massive set for the spaceship called the pale mary um so they went the opposite direction and i think they're going to be rewarded for it um it was a fun film it doesn't have a technically christian message at all um the author of the book uh andy weir also wrote the martian and a number of other books and he's clearly not a christian he doesn't have a christian worldview but he can't help but have um well there there was there was a value of life element to all of this and i mean he can really tug at your heart really can far more than in the martian um you know i i have a feeling rocky is going to end up with his own television series or cartoon series or whatever else uh that's my my gut feeling i don't recall any profanity there certainly wasn't any nudity or anything like that at all um so yeah it once again hollywood shoots itself in the foot and yet somebody comes along and makes a film that doesn't pander to all the stuff that's supposed to make everything successful and it does well um is it ryan gosling is that who played um the guy i honestly wondered when i saw that he had been picked for the part i honestly wondered if andy weir didn't have him in mind because the main character is so much like him and so it fit real well it's very natural i i guess from what i've read it can't possibly win the oscar um because it doesn't fit the dei stuff i mean there's only three main characters and one of them's an alien so maybe the alien might count as a minority um i heard that um rich is laughing the other room i mean he is made of rock basically um so maybe he could fill in for some of it so it could still get uh the nod but probably not because it's a it's a white cisgendered heteronormative actor who plays the lead and so it's doomed from the start but um yeah i i will tell you it's well worth going to see uh it it it really was it was um it was good two hours 40 two hours and 40 minutes long so it is a bit of a of a uh investment of time so i saw now i don't know this guy i haven't reached out to talk to him yet or anything like that um and he doesn't follow me and i didn't know who he was so i think i will um follow him now the protestant philosopher prop philosopher dr christopher clues don't know anything about him uh you know i i don't have a clue but um he responded to dr uh taylor marshall now taylor marshall has been a number of things he's had a fairly long journey finally to a very conservative form of roman catholicism and we've invited him to dialogue he won't do it we've challenged him to debate he won't do it he's not overly nice in response to non -catholics um and i don't just mean in the sense of well you know he he just takes strong positions no he's just not really nice um just just trying to get the guy to you know to talk to you and to respond to stuff he's um and in fact i think he actually unblocked me but anyway taylor marshall had posted the standard stuff on the canon issue and what i mean by the canon issue is is not um the standard roman catholic claims that without our authority you can't know what the canon is um i i realize many roman catholics do make that argument well they make it all the time online but the the sharper ones know that it's a two -edged sword because the reality is the official dogmatic definition of the canon and specifically the canonical status of the apocryphal books the ones they call the deutero canon uh takes place in april of 1546 that's a millennium and a half after the days of christ so the idea that you have to have a dogmatically defined canon for the scripture to even function within a church is a self -refuting assertion on rom's part any honest student of history will have to admit that in reality the great trinitarian and christological controversies had been dealt with long long long long one could argue a millennium prior to the dogmatic definition of the council of trent in 1546 so obviously you do not have to have a dogmatic definition of the canon for scripture to be able to function within the church so that's why i think more widely read roman catholics tend to try to avoid that particular kind of argumentation okay so taylor marshall um wrote that dear protestants your bible lacks seven canonical books removed by martin luther and john calvin is apocryphal as soon as you hear that you know you're not dealing with a serious historian because martin luther and john calvin did not believe they had the authority to determine the canon of scripture and taylor marshall knows i know that taylor marshall knows um that right before the reformation there were leading roman catholic scholars and intellectuals who likewise rejected the apocryphal books as being fully canonical historically i would assert that the the more a person knew about the jewish people and the jewish bible and the jewish view of scripture the less likely they were to accept the apocryphal books as scripture jerome and augustine had argued about this augustine did not know enough greek and certainly did not know hebrew so as to access a lot of the most important information and it may well be that augustine thought because the apocryphal books were included in the septuagint of his day the greek translation the old testament that the jews had accepted the deuterocanonical books as scripture um they had not and so augustine was in error on various things especially linguistic air things historical things that was that wasn't his big thing um and so he was in error about these things and so there had been two streams of thought on this topic down through history and the primary reason that um the deuterocanonicals were accepted was because they became a part of the standard text of the septuagint which was the bible of the early church um so anyway um so to say that martin luther and john calvin could remove them um is again it's it's just so laughably bad in its argumentation that it really makes you wonder why taylor marshall does stuff like this because he should know better his education should allow him to know better than what he's saying uh and then he talks about how protestants often quote saint jerome to justify this removal saint jerome later changed his mind about the seven deuterocanonical books in obedience to pope damasus now the reason i mention all this is because this other fellow um the protestant philosopher prot philosopher dr chris verkluze wrote a really useful in fact what i'm going to do right now is um i'm going to repost this um for those who heard me discussing this on today's design i just reposted it um on my feed so you can take a look at it uh it was really well done and he he takes taylor marshall's claims apart rightfully so um and and demonstrates directly from jerome's writings that marshall's just playing games uh and he says dear catholics please drop the fan fiction that jerome submitted to rome on the canon he held the same position 391 until he died in 420 and trent overruled him 15 centuries later by a vote of 29 yay 15 nay 16 abstention it passed by 44 not exactly a passing grade surely not one i'd write letters to protestants about now what i would like to ask dr clues how does he know that where do you get that from i've never seen i've never gone looking for it but i've never gone looking for it in depth let's put it that way um but i'd like to know where he got that information 24 yes 15 no 16 abstentions yeah that's that's how dogma is determined a vote like that and a vote of who who were these people you know what it reminds me of it reminds me of something that's gonna come up on the debate that may come up in the debate um this coming saturday um do i have it yeah i do um i'm not gonna up above there i'll have it down or i can use it um during the debate i i have i've brought along some of my best quranic resources specifically my museum quality um replicas of the paris and london manuscripts uh i've got top copy up there um and i have an arabic quran now you may not be aware of this um but that's why you listen to me rambling in the back of an rv is every once in a while you uh will pick up something that may be useful to you the arabic quran that is in use today primarily in western nations there's differences between there are there are qurans and arabic have different readings depending on where you are in the world and the one that is in general use uh in the western world saudi arabia places like that um that's not a western world but it's the popular one there was put together in 1924 and in cairo egypt and what's interesting is even though it has become destandardized text i have never and i something i want to spend more time on and if someone can direct me just anyone who's done in -depth work on this would save me a lot of time i have never heard a single name of a globally recognized scholar within islam that had anything to do with the production of that problem all it was honestly was a school district in cairo wanted a standardized text this is what they produced it became the most popular reading available um and most muslims that i talked to think that what they have in their hand when they hold that arabic quran is exactly as muhammad originally dictated it having received it from the angel gabriel piecemeal over time but still that's what they believe and it's strange every time i've asked them well do you know when this quran eventually first appeared it's 1924 cairo egypt i mean i know 1924 is over 100 years now but as far as history is concerned that's still a relatively short period of time and if everyone i've ever asked i haven't asked many do you know any of the names of the people that were involved in producing this quran in making textual decisions because there are differences it's not like they had a bunch of manuscripts and they were doing textual criticism so who were they why why do you give them almost an inspired level of confidence and it look this is this is common across religious categories all right most christians are given a bible when they're converted or grew up with a particular bible they've never given a second thought whatsoever to who the translators were um where'd this come from when was my translation done uh what manuscripts were used i mean it's just generally not the kind of stuff that you're going to have a discussion of and uh so so christians do the same thing but muslims muslims believe that the quran is the eternal word of god but what they mean by that is that it is co -eternal with Allah it's uncreated it has eternally existed on a heavenly tablet tablet in a human language it's an amazing thing to think about when you really try to parse that out um and so you would think they'd have a little bit more of a vested interest in wanting to be you know familiar with how the version they have came into existence but they're not they're just not listen go watch the debate i did with adnan rashid in london and if i recall correctly yeah that was before adnan and i sort of became friends so it was a little bit more rough and tumble type of situation um but uh listen to the attitude expressed by adnan and even by the crowd when we discussed the new testament versus the quran as far as its transmission was concerned um man i'm just sitting here thinking could we even possibly have that kind of debate in london today and it's only been what what 13 years maybe how much has london and the uk changed and any kind of criticism of islam is now islamophobia and you will be you'll end up in prison i mean they they put people in prison primarily just white guys but they put people in prison uh for being islamophobes in the uk the uk has been the uk has decided that since 1984 was written by a brit they're just going to fulfill it just because we're just going to call them a prophet and we're just going to go with it and uh that's what they do and they've become big brother um great has been the fall of the uk and uh it truly has fallen the people in charge are the enemies of the british people and we pray for you um but we're not very far behind you either at all we are one national election away from the end of the constitution united states i'll be straight up talking with you about it and but if i go that direction i'll never finish this up so how do i start talking about the quran they accept as a given without thinking about who were the people that put this quran together who the people that made the textual decisions this i'd like to know what work they did that kind of stuff the roman catholic looks at the council of trend they don't know who was there i personally would like to know who was there i think that would be pretty cool um well i know there are lists but in other words this number that was given 24 15 and 16 um where did that come from and who were they uh i'm aware that there are records but i've not tracked down any kind of debate that took place at the time because i'd like to see what that looked like and i'd like to know who the 15 nays were and i'd also like to know who the 16 cowards were who abstained from voting um yeah so you get a dogmatic result with a minority of the of the prelates that were there and who's to say those prelates had any meaningful authority to define the canon for the church at all um yeah there's there's but people don't think about it they just don't give it a second thought and protestants non -catholics generally don't give a whole lot of thought about how their canon came into existence and all the rest of that kind of stuff either so i'm not saying this is a specifically catholic issue um but when you make claims that the church has the authority to do this kind of stuff there's there's the issue so um kudos to the protestant philosopher um and uh make sure to give him a thumbs up on that one um i doubt taylor marshall will respond marshall likes to be able to bluster and everything else but actually engaging stuff yeah i don't think so um so this just popped up 29 minutes ago um from dave for biz question i have been seeing stuff regarding old ethiopian christian manuscripts claiming many extra canonical books etc my spidey sense is going off as 80 truth 20 heresy what say you not going to claim to be an expert i do know that the ethiopian canon is broader than the roman catholic canon but it's also idiosyncratic um and a lot of the ethiopian theological experience if i could use that term um is idiosyncratic as well um in other words it doesn't represent any kind of catholic using the term appropriately universal broad um understanding of things and so i'd have i need a little bit more something specific as to what you're referring to there um but the extra canonical stuff yeah they have a broader canon but nobody else really ever had that broader canon so it's that's one of the issues historically is you know you can name a number of books that were cited as canonical by individuals in certain locations but and generally not always but generally what happens with that is a book that is written in a particular locale becomes popular in that locale but it doesn't transfer beyond that um that's generally how it happens so um in canonical studies that's one of the reasons you you don't start with history and try to reason back to theology when it comes to the canon of scripture that leaves you in a really bad place to be um so hey let me show you something here so there's there's the window uh you can see the sun's coming in um and i think that's it's probably rich's truck out there i'm not sure but there's there's p52 above my head right there uh super high quality um man i should post i should track down that link again uh so the rest of you can grab it super high resolution super high quality for both sides of p52 which again p52 possibly the oldest uh new testament surviving new testament fragment because that's all it is about size of a credit card um and it's from john chapter 18 which i've always found highly ironic that the oldest fragment would be from the section where jesus and pilot are talking and pilot asks what is true um i i just always found that interesting that that's where it came from but um anyway back to what we're talking about here so i will try to remember to link to that when i uh type up stuff here and send it off to our faithful volunteer that posts all this stuff okay uh where did that stuff go um there was something else i want yeah here we go there's a lot of wild stuff going on in the world today did you know there's a whole study right now on the fact that you have far fewer bugs hitting your windshield now than you did only 10 years ago and that's not a good thing it isn't a good thing bugs are food and there's been like what they say yeah here we go uh what's yeah 63 percent drop between 2024 and 2021 just three years um north america has lost 2 .9
billion birds since 1970 now most people weren't alive in 1970 i can guarantee you one thing i used to hear a whole lot more birds i hear now and those insects and stuff they they helped pollinate plants including food plants and things like that now yeah this is interesting a study from just weeks ago found half of 261 bird species on the continent are now in serious decline and the losses are speeding up in farming regions the birds that eat insects lost 2 .9