What's Wrong With the Gospel Part 3 — Keith Green

The Added Parts to the Gospel

We're going to be studying tonight part two of what's wrong with the gospel that's section two the added parts and As I was studying through this before the study so I was good to pre-study before you teach a study I Came up with an analogy that since this was the added parts it was sort of like a cooking class that You go through and they teach you the artificial ingredients that you should not add to a meal.

After you've already been through a class where they say don't leave these things out well, you know very well that if you remove something important like yeast from a bread a Bread recipe there's not much you can add into it except maybe a tire iron.

You know something to blow it up with they bite into it and blows up in their face. That's what a lot of the diet drinks are you know? They took sugar out and they put all this other stuff in you know.

They won't find out that when you're after 40 years of drinking saccharin that you grow a third arm or something You know under your shirt. They don't know these side effects yet, but I'm sure they'll find out That they can't Replace necessary ingredients.

I'm not pro sugar. I'm not voting on the sugar platform this time, but What I'm talking about here is the Bible. I'm talking about the necessary things that God requires to have anointing and what is anointing that's a Leonard Ravenhill in his book water Bible Terry's in his first chapter.

It says with all you're getting with all by getting get unction and Unction is another synonym for anointing. John says you you have an unction from the Holy Ones. You know all things you have an anointing from God.

The actual literal meaning of anointing was that God was in it when David was anointed. He literally had you know Wesson oil pouring out all over him and probably not Wesson but the the anointing meant that you were God's chosen or that God was choosing to use you and God will only choose to use what's true since God is not a liar that says the devil's a liar and the father of lies and when you take even a little bit of truth out of a system and And Every Theology is a system.

Truth, Authority, and the Danger of Half-Truths

There's there's totally false theology like the cults have and then there's kind of semi true theology like a lot of Us have and then there's the absolute cut-and-dry black-and-white truth theology that God has and we're all trying to find out what that is aren't we and God will only bless the true theology and a friend of mine said this.

It says that when a half-truth is presented as the whole truth it becomes an untruth. When any half-truth is presented as the whole truth, it becomes an untruth and You can present half-truths as well this might be true and that's what the Pharisees used to do.

That's what that's what used to blow their minds about Jesus. He came out and started teaching with authority. Remember when he came out in his synagogue when he first started preaching and he said The Spirit of the Lord is upon me.

And he didn't say, you know. Like the boring scripture readers that were hanging out in those days the Spirit of the Lord is upon me to heal the sick. And I just reading it kind of like a parrot, you know, ah, you know Jesus came up and said I'm sure the Spirit of the Lord is upon me and people are going.

What's he talking about man? Isn't that you know? Isn't that the sons from Joseph and sons carpentry shop down the road. Well the thing that really fried the Jews brains in those days was the fact that Jesus taught with authority and God only anoints with his authority and his anointing the truth and Tonight we're going to discuss in the second part.

This is really the third part of a four-part study, but it's the second part of the series. What's wrong the gospel of called the added parts and I kind of looked we were thinking of artwork. We always in our art department.

Try to decide what pictures would best describe the subject matter and the impact of what we're trying to say. One of the things that we were going to have for what's wrong with the gospel was the missing parts we were gonna have a picture of a guy going in for an operation.

You know and there's gonna say, you know. The operating room for the gospel and all these evil-looking doctors. We're gonna go in there and and the guy the guy was going in and he was all patched and bandaged up and and he Was going in the operating room and in the second part and the added parts he was gonna come out, you know, like with a fire hydrant coming out for an arm and you know a turkey head for a Head and you know a broomstick for a leg and the added parts, of course, you know.

The fire hydrant does have a round cylindrical kind of thing like an arm. But it isn't an arm and a turkey head is a head but it isn't a human head and so on. But yes, they have found things that stick in the holes.

That that will match up somewhat in in Similarity somewhat. I mean some of them are so Idiotic and stupid that I don't understand how anybody can believe they're biblical, but they do now this. This study is These study the part two the whole thing got us in trouble.

But this part two got us in more trouble than anything we've ever published. When we did the Catholic Chronicles we got 20 negative mail when we did this we got 50 negative mail. Now, I'm sure that there were some things Jesus taught on where you got a hundred percent negative mail.

That doesn't matter to us. We don't want to get positive mail, but we do want to get positive reviews from God. As a friend of mine says you can change the whole world's opinion about me you can spread slander about me.

You can say that my wife's a prostitute. You can say that. I'm a liar that I'm. I'm a Thief and a robber. You might even get the headlines, you know, Keith Green is an idiot. He's he's he's. He's ripping people off or whatever, but you can't change God's opinion about me.

Because the only person that can change God's opinion about me is me. Now that doesn't mean that I'm supposed to walk through life going well I mean, I'm just gonna please God and I don't care who I who I hurt.

That's not true either because Paul says if it possible be at peace with all men. If it possible if possible, here's the two F's if possible comma so far as it depends on you. Comma be at peace with all men.

That means while you are preaching the truth while you are correcting error. If you can at the same time be nice. If you can at the same time not offend in any way other than the truth doing its own offending.

Because the truth will always offend those that don't love the truth. Then don't do it if possible so far as it depends on you. Well There are some things that I wrote in here I went over it tonight. That I might have rephrased a little differently, but not very many.

I am NOT sorry. I wrote this. I'm not sorry We published it. Sure. I'm sorry that we got 50 negative mail. But I'm not sorry enough to say that this wasn't of the Lord for us to write. I don't like to see anybody not agree with us.

Nobody doesn't like that. I'm Jesus didn't like it made him sad when the people wouldn't turn around and go you're right Jesus. Now we don't want to be right because we want to be right. We want to be close to God and because we're close to God we would like people to Recognize that the truth is the truth doesn't matter if I say it or you say it or your or the Baptist pastor the Methodist Preacher down the street says it it doesn't matter as long as the truth is going forth into the world.

So I Believe it that many of these Additions to the modern gospel are very clever very clever and they have to be because they have the outward Manifestation of doing some good outwardly, but God only promises to anoint his word not human cleverness.

He doesn't promise to anoint human smartness and It's important as we go through this. That you well what we'll get to that in a minute. The main thing that we got in trouble for was that we destroyed many sacred cows.

The meaning of sacred cow means Pete things that people held as sacred things that people held as. Well, we're gonna get to that but things that people held scope so close to their heart. Their their uncle Ferdinand came forward at some altar car did something or they they once in themselves saw some gospel show where somebody was singing some song that included some phraseology that we're gonna talk about and take a part in the light of the gospel and they're gonna be so offended because I got Saved that way brother.

Mm-hmm. No, you didn't. You got saved by the truth. I once asked a Close friend of mine. He was a well-known Bible teacher. I said, how come these guys get really saved? Then they turn around and start teaching things that didn't save them.

They start teaching things that they didn't get saved that way like, you know. They went out in the woods and they read the Bible and says God. I'm a rotten sinner. Please forgive me I'm gonna turn my life and follow you and they didn't you know, didn't go forward.

They didn't read no book. They didn't check the s-box the bottom of any track. They just they just got saved. They they looked at themselves and went yeah, that's a God and said yes and God came down and power and says All right.

Come on home. That's salvation. That's the gospel. I Surrender. I'm rotten you're holy and I surrender take me I'll do anything. And then they turn around they start teaching now what you need to know first is this this and this.

I Said brother I said, how come these people do that? They said well, here's how it goes. They get saved reading the Bible or just thinking about their sins and they turn to God. Then they go to church or Bible study or read a book or go to seminary.

To learn out to find out what happened, you know, what happened to me then their their instructor their pastor starts teaching them this whole Added thing to the gospel as the way this is how you got saved.

You see you really accepted Jesus your personal saving you did this and you did that. Oh Wow, that's what happened. So what happens is they get saved and they turn around and adopt somebody's else's man-made system and turn around start preaching it as if that's the thing that led them to Christ and It doesn't bear the fruit that it that the real truth did in their own life.

Nobody ever got saved through any other means but for the grace of God through surrender to the lordship of Jesus. After acknowledging that they had no good in themselves. Now they may not have used those words.

But they certainly went through that thought process even in their heart if they didn't do it with their brain. They came to the realization that they're authentically converted they came to the realization that there's no good in themselves and that the only good one was the one they were going to trust in and lean on the rest of eternity and Then they went out to some Bible study or went to the Bible bookstore and bought some Checklist the ten easy steps to becoming a saint and adopted that swallowed that gossip pill and Went out and started Vomiting that stuff up to the world.

Excuse the expression. I hope you had dinner. This is not easy. This is not easy to go into somebody's sacred things like a bull in a china shop and Start tearing apart their whole world. It's not fun.

Salvation, Repentance, and the Need for Genuine Conversion

Let's go to prayer. God we humbly come before you tonight and we realize that there is no good thing in us, but you. We weren't born into this world with holiness in our hearts. Maybe innocence, but not holiness not not consciously being set apart for you God we didn't come into this world leaping and rejoicing for you, but we came into this world a Selfish world and as the first thoughts that we had weren't about God, but about us and God, I know with all my heart that my life the rest of my life and my life up till now has been learning to change my thinking away from myself toward others in you and God that's going to go on to the day.

I enter your gates. Then I'm gonna have to readjust my selfish human natured thinking Away from myself and towards you only by the Holy Spirit and the truth in your gospel. Can I ever hope to change? And I ask for your anointing tonight upon the truths of your word.

That we would not be shamed and we would not be put aside and we would not be deceived any longer God because I know that it just aches your heart to see people Counterfeiting your truth. So I ask in Jesus name God.

That you would come down mightily in our midst and got a lot of this writing is me. I know that there's a lot of my own humor and thought structure in this but God as we go through this. Help us to separate.

What's Keith Green from? What's God's Word? Please do it Lord. You said that your word was sharper than any two-edged sword to divide between even the soul and the spirit and God there's my soul in this thing and there's also the Spirit of God and.

And I asked it that you'd even help me divide it as we go through it for God we want to in these Crusades. God we want to see people honestly planted and then left alone to grow. Sure, if we see a bug going up the stem with we take it off.

If we saw weed growing up, we'd help the guy pull it out. If if we see that they're bending the wrong way or there's too strong of a wind. We put a big stick up into the ground and tie them to it. So the wind doesn't blow them over but God that we let them alone to grow.

Let your son shine teach them how to stand still and abide in you and Not add any of these stupid artificial weights to their branches when they're so tender and young to break them off. Teach us God how to lead someone to the kingdom and how not to lead them astray and to prematurely give birth to them.

In Jesus name we ask this knowing that you've heard us and that you anoint whatever is true and Whoever is sincere God looking for you. Amen, okay, we're going to we're going to read through this. I Haven't got this memorized.

It's hard enough to memorize a hundred songs. We're gonna read through this together and then I'll stop and make some comments and and I Suggest that you look up the scriptures at home. There's hundreds of scriptures through these studies hundreds literally.

And but you look the ones up on the bottom at home and and I mean at least the ones through that through the the paragraphs. The ones that are inside the sentences on the bottom if you could look those up at another time, that'd be fine.

Okay. Let's go through this introduction. In each generation there have been various ways and means used to secure the attention of sinners. So that they may be shown the truth and then led into a saving knowledge and true relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Just very simply you can't preach to somebody the truth until you have their attention. That's what an announcer is for on television. They you know, the guys got this voice and now you've got to listen to this amazing double offer, you know.

Wow, where are we. So they got your attention and they sell you the product? Well Christians are supposed to get your attention with love and They'll know we're Christians by our love that we have one for another that's supposed to get the attention because the world is so selfish that the norm is selfishness and so you're supposed to stick out like a Unsore thumb.

It is a fact that man is a creature of habit. He loves form. He doesn't like things to change too quickly and he clings to tradition. Unfortunately for man God is no such person. I say unfortunately there because Man and God have been going butted head-to-head since day one because man likes things to stay the same because then he knows what's gonna come next.

God wanting to see if he really loves him has always changed the scene very quickly and Changed the ways to prove that you love God as a famous evangelist once wrote means in other words methods are only effective to prove love for God as Long as they're new as long as they're a novelty as long as there's something That has just been around for a little while as soon as they become old or tradition they lose their effectiveness because people put their eyes on their truth on the on the thing itself on the method rather than on the ends that the method is brought forth to produce and We're gonna get into that a little bit later.

But but that's what. When. When a test for instance, you know, they have to change the driving test every few years at the motor vehicle place. Otherwise you learn the answers by memory instead of knowledge.

And then you can pass the test, but you don't really know what you're passing. As soon as you think that reading five chapters a day and spending 15 minutes of prayers all that it takes to please God.

Then all of a sudden that won't please him anymore because you're offering it up to him by rote. You're doing it. Packaged deal. Here's your here's your package for the day God God will change the requirements day by day church by church city by city.

Unfortunately for man God is no such person. Though something has never been tried before God simply doesn't care. His only concern is that it is the wisest and most direct way of accomplishing his own desire.

This of course through the children of Israel into many a panic. What's God doing now? If there was a big sea in the way, no problem. He just split it if there wasn't any water snap a drinking fountain from a rock food running low poof it'll rain bread in the morning and Jesus had the same way of dealing with things when his disciples were far from sure didn't matter.

Jesus just strolled over the waves problem with the weather weather shut up wind and so it went. Now as you can see in the Bible God had a lot of problems with man and his moldy traditions. Let's take a look at the Jews how they loved their temple their sacrifices their Sabbath too bad they didn't care much for their God and Jesus ran up against the whole stubborn lot of them.

Did you see that why he healed on the Sabbath and Every turn Jesus tried to show them the truth using the wisest reasoning and the best examples, but they kept getting hung up on his methods. Touching lepers.

I mean that was against the law. It was against the law of Moses. The way, you know, you know, remember how he used to heal different people. He always healed somebody in a way that tested their faith always.

Or came up against the traditional taboos always. He didn't have to touch the lepers. Remember a couple of them. He'd say You know go on your way. Well by the time you reach home your daughter will be healed.

In fact right now remember the guy says you don't even have to come to my house. Just say the word he goes. All right. The word He's you she doesn't have to touch the lepers. But because it was forbidden by law he reached out and touched them so that he could say to the Pharisees.

Look. You said it's illegal to touch these guys. Well, I'm gonna touch them and then they won't be lepers and then you won't be able to prove that I broke the law. It's the leper. No, I didn't look at him.

Well, he was a leper when I touched him. But when I you know right in the middle of the touch it changed so did I am I really guilty? It's kind of like the guy that goes through the yellow light that changes what he just touches the line.

You know and they go to court and well it changed right after he went. I know it changed before I went now Jesus always was testing their traditions and their man-made laws as he does ours to this day.

Touching lepers raising the dead hanging out with sinners. Oh, man. Whipping money changers that didn't go too popular and Jewish 500 fortune. It scared them to death their religion was basically peaceful very solemn and quiet.

But Jesus way Jesus had the whole town in an uproar at least once a week. You can see why he bothered them. He disturbed their nice little peaceful hometown religion with the truth. It is obvious that God anoints men and women who are completely yielded to his spirit.

But he also anoints methods and tools that we use meetings tracks books. Music witnessing preaching in fact anything any tool that we use when they are also fully submitted to him in faithfulness. But there is a great danger when man or even God we'll talk about that in a minute designs a tool to be used for God's glory and.

Then as time passes people's attention starts to be fixed on the tool itself rather than on the glory of God which was originally designed to promote and. And then at the bottom in the footnote. Which is an itsy-bitsy little print?

Because it had now become an idol King Hezekiah had to destroy the same bronze serpent that Moses had made In obedience to God in Numbers 21, which had been used to stop the plague of death among the Israelites.

This is the same brass serpent referred to by Jesus in reference to himself. Remember when Jesus says as the serpent in the wilderness I myself must be lifted up. Well that serpent had to be destroyed by a by a man of God.

Because it had been turned into an idol. God told Moses I'm not gonna tell the whole story. But God told Moses to make a bronze serpent that when the people looked upon this serpent their plague would be checked the plague that God had sent on them because of their sin a Couple generations later.

They they started adoring it as a religious Artifact and they had to turn around and the godly King had to destroy the very thing that God had told them to make earlier to obey him. So God many times Gives us in fact, you know what even the Bible itself can become an idol.

We're supposed to worship the living word many people worship the written word when the riship. What the written word is supposed to reveal the living word so that we can worship him many times people you know, they don't know God at all, but they sure know their Bibles as.

As we just wrote in this This article that we're doing on rock music the cults use the same book that we adore they use the very same Bible that we study Jesus, then they twist it and turn it and They use it for their own destruction according to Peter.

The very things that God gives us can be used for our own destruction. If we don't use them in the proper perspective for the promotion of the glory of God. Now if the things that God that God gives us can be misused and abused.

How much more can the things that we invent in in in submission to God can they be abused? Okay, following is a list of just some of the tools just some by the way. This is not a complete list of. Some of the tools methods and concepts that I believe have become so much a part of presenting the modern gospel.

That they have become just about inseparable from it. I mean that one and the same to people. These tools have become so much a part of the gospel. Well, it says here in fact. They're set to such an extent considered Necessary that if many of them are left out of an evangelistic meeting Christians can hardly believe that anyone can even be saved there.

And I mean it. I mean it. Well, I started doing I started getting bothered about three years ago with some of the tools that people were using and I started just not using them anymore because I was perplexed and confused.

Now we're gonna do crusades and we're gonna use some tools that some of them are like this. In fact, we're even gonna have a follow-up program. The words don't bother me just the thing that they're doing today in most cases is the follow-up program and we're not gonna be the Self well, we're gonna have the right follow-up program.

No, we're just gonna try to follow people up the way Jesus would that's all. We're gonna try to call people to to to receive Christ the way Jesus would that's see that's the way we want to do it. But anyway, these methods that people are using today.

In fact, nobody even considers an evangelistic meeting an evangelistic meeting unless there is an official Invitation giving given right then in there. I don't understand that We're gonna get to that I don't want to go ahead of myself.

But the main point I want to make here is that people good people. Sincere people people that love God and believe that this is the truth. Cannot even conceive of the fact that someone can get saved unless they go through the official motions.

According to an official I got a letter today. I read it this guy said thank you so much for your what's wrong with the gospel tracts. I Should have brought it and read it here. He said I Got saved about a year ago and I've been living for Jesus and I love him.

But my friends are bothering me because I have I haven't raised my hand it for an invitation. I said, I don't need to I'm I love Jesus. I raised my hand in my own room before God. Yes, but if you're really a Christian Then you'd have the courage to come forward and confess it before man.

He says I go out witnessing every day. I'm confessing it all the time. He says Keith. I even went and got baptized like the Bible says I should isn't that raising my hand? He says and I read your articles and it just gave me such peace that I didn't need to do all that stuff.

I got saved and I know it and people know it. But they're still laying this trip on me that I got to go forward or else they're got a custom doubt. You see these people are so brainwashed are so Indoctrinated not by any one group just by all of us.

You know how we can all brainwash each other to thinking something's true. The whole world was brainwashed to think the earth was flat till Columbus had the guts to go out not the guts. Maybe the greed to go forth and look for it look for gold in the new lands, you know.

Till he proved that when you went over the horizon you weren't going over the edge of the world. The whole world was brainwashed by a lie. There wasn't a cult group going. Let's all tell him the world's flat.

They all just kind of perpetrated it themselves. Well, that's what happened. These people are so brainwashed that When did you get saved? Why in my bedroom man, I was just reading the Bible and praying and man a spirit came.

What do you mean the spirit came down? Was there a pastor there? No, but God was there. I was there and that's salvation. Well. Okay, maybe you did get saved but the next time the pastor gives the invitation just to be sure just to make sure We'll go forward.

I just least raise your hand up. So we'll all see it. Oh, yeah. Now we know that John saved. I Mean they said there he says they're laying this number on him. He says I refuse to do it. I said well You did everything Jesus told you to do.

You even got baptized. That's great. In fact, I believe that baptism in the in the New Testament was was what the altar calls become today. You know, that was the invitation look fueling business. Get down there the river Dunkin Donuts down there.

I Think that's what baptism was was what today's altar cup, but now no bus no fuss. No water. No sloshing. No changing of clothes. No nothing, you know. Okay, here we go. Some inventions That must have hurt your ears.

Mission control, they don't make these clips like they used to. How's that sound? Guys back there eyes are like too sunny-side up a. Okay. Some inventions of man that have become essential parts of the modern gospel.

The “Personal Savior” Formula and Man-Made Gospel Language

Okay. Now these well, I got in some nasty letters on this stuff. The term and concept of personal Savior. Let's read it through and I'll stop and go back over it. I Find it very disturbing when something unnecessary is added to the gospel.

But the use of the term personal Savior isn't very harmful in itself. But it shows a kind of mindset that is willing to invent terms. And then allow these terms we preach is if they were actually found in the Bible.

But why must we do this? Why must we add needless almost meaningless things to the gospel? It's because we've taken so much out of it that we have to replace it with spiritual double talk. That's right.

Double talk. Would you ever use would you ever introduce your sister like this? This is Sheila my personal sister. Would you point your neighbor and said this is my personal belly button? Ridiculous, but nevertheless people solemnly speak of Christ as their personal saviors if they've got him right there in their shirt pocket.

And as if when he returns he will not have two but three titles written across this by King of Kings Lord of Lords and personal Savior. This is only one example of how a non-biblical term can be elevated in reverence by the church as if to say well.

If it ain't in the Bible, it ought to be. Okay, I'm not against people saying I accepted Jesus my personal Savior, I'm not. Because I know where the term came from it originally was invented by people who are trying to be Evangelicals rather than the Catholic concept of Savior rather than the Savior.

Jesus is the Savior. You know kind of out there away on another planet that nobody know. He is not just the Savior. They go and witness to people and they run into Catholics said do you have Jesus as your Savior?

You know, do you did you accept Jesus? Yes. I love the Savior. I say I'd pray to his mom and you know, and I Really believe in the Savior. No, but do you have him and then they had to come up with the difference between the Savior?

Do you have him as a personal Savior? So I know where it came from originally it came from people trying to personalize the experience of salvation in Contrast to the non-personal kind of gods up there with a big stick.

So you better speak to his mother, you know now. But today It's become a cliche and a cliche whenever you've got a cliche. You lose all your meaning and all you know, and everything started out mostly with good motives for a good reason.

But today people use this thing In a stupid way, you know, I get letters all the time. Well, I accept Jesus my personal Savior. I have Go up. All right. So are you living for no, no, he's not my Lord yet, but he's my personal Savior.

So, what does that mean, you know, I got four brownie points. I'm waiting for my other one, you know. It's kind of like the you know, the guys the Pentecost the Pentecostal Boy Scout troop and the guy gets tongues.

He sews a little tongue on his thing there, you know, I Mean that really and the people have this kind of thing. They've got this kind of installment plan to heaven. You know first I'll get saved by making Jesus my personal Savior and then I'll make him my Lord and then I'll get baptized In the Spirit and then I'll become holy after that backwards.

There's no such thing as you know get saved now pay later any of that stuff it comes in in one bite-sized bullet called the cross. People have to come lock stock and barrel or Jesus would leave them alone and say if you're not ready Don't let me rush you make sure that a man sits down and counts the cost.

It's very important. Don't ever Rush somebody in like a used car salesman into salvation. It's the biggest mistake you could make for somebody and This personal Savior thing is just it doesn't make me mad.

The personal Savior thing does not bug me. It's the as I say here. It's not harmful in itself. But it shows a kind of mindset that is willing to invent terms and then allow these terms. This is the part that gets to me allows these terms to be preached as if they're actually biblical terms.

Now the term itself is not harmful. It's the mindset. I'm talking about the mindset of taking something and saying this is biblical brother. You know, I mean people talk about. You know the pre-tribulation rapture people in the mid and the post they all talk about it as if it's written right there and in fourth Corinthians, you know and They've got out, you know and I go wait a minute.

Now I respect you and there's a brother down the road that believes the exact opposite that I respect to now since both of you are respected Christians. How can you both be so sure your way is the biblical way?

You've got up. You've got maybe some good scripture. But don't make it out watertight. This is definitely the way it is thing on something that the Bible is not totally clear about. Now the Bible is clear about him being the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings and if that ain't enough to get somebody Saved you don't have to add anything to it.

If you can't define King of Kings King of rulers. And if you can't define Lord of Lords including landlords and every other kind of Lord. Then the other definitions are futile people try to cheapen it.

“Accepting the Lord” and the Sovereignty of Grace

Okay. Determined concept of accepting the Lord now this got me into even more trouble. I go, but brother I accepted the Lord. I accepted the Lord said wait a minute if you're saved he accepted you. And Let's go.

This is one of those is plain make me mad. You can hear people say why did you accept the Lord or I'm gonna accept the Lord right after the weenie rose tonight? What how dare we talk about the miracle of someone accepting the Lord?

What kind of a miracle is that? Is it a miracle for a hopeless fool like me to accept the Living God? Why the miracle is that the creator of the universe the one who made the sea and the mountains the Sun and the stars who?