Genesis #22 Ch. 37-39 Joseph, the Faithful Servant — Chuck Missler

Welcome to the 22nd study in the book of Genesis conducted by Chuck Missler. The subject of this tape Genesis chapter 37 through 39.

We're I'm going to. I know last time that we met just before Christmas. We did start into Joseph, but since there are so many of you here for the first time I will just pick it up with the story of Joseph.

Joseph in the Structure of Genesis

We're in essentially Genesis chapter 37. For some of you this will be a review. But while we're getting sort of collected and organized. Well, I guess first of all, let's start with a word of prayer. Because we want to indeed make sure the Holy Spirit has this hour not Chuck Missler or anything other thing.

And so let's open with a word of prayer. Father we just praise you for the privilege the unspeakable privilege of gathering again to behold Jesus Christ. Father we just thank you for your word and for this opportunity to open it to our understanding.

We would ask that your Holy Spirit just open our hearts and eyes and minds to what you have here for us. And father we would just ask that in all these things. We might behold Jesus Christ and father too that we might in all of these things obtain that for our feeding which you have for us that we might take these things and Apply them to our lives in such a way as to be pleasing in thy sight.

For it is to this end that we pray and invoke the authority of Jesus Christ with whom we have to do. Amen. Genesis typically well, it can be divided in many. There's probably a thousand ways to Organize the book of Genesis.

They always say that there's two kinds of people in the world those that Divide things in two places and in two ways and those that don't so You can do that with any number of things you want and of course the book of Genesis can be divided many ways.

But typically the first 11 chapters are treated in other words pre nation. From Adam up to but not including Abraham as one section. We spent quite a bit of time on that with all the usual interest in evolution and so forth.

Then we took on the story of the nation Israel and some people would say from Abraham to the end of the book is the other major division. But most authors or commentators or students would outline the book from Abraham.

Then through the patriarchs up to but then set apart the story of Joseph. Even though it's part of it's a continuation of the patriarchs Abraham Isaac Jacob then Joseph. Joseph somehow sets apart and with the exception of Genesis 49 Which will come to a sort of a special chapter near just before the end of the book.

The rest of the book is really the story of Joseph. And it's a very strange portion of scripture because we have more detail about Joseph than probably any other character very very very very interesting thing.

We have more detail about him. He's also one of two people in the scripture only two people about which no evil is spoken. I'm of course excluding Jesus Christ the author of the whole thing but in in in you know at another level there's only two people that of which there is no evil spoken Daniel and Joseph and One of the things that I will have reproduced for you I Was gonna say next time but I'll allow myself some leeway for for following up because the old man is still in.

But I do have a an outline that runs some one two three four five six pages and I'll have that reproduced and Available for you. If not next time the time after it'll be whatever time you've missed if you miss the next several times.

But What this is it's going to be sort of an outline that will will work from for the story study of Joseph because it has one interesting characteristic. It will enumerate a hundred and one ways. That Joseph is a type of Christ.

Now some of them you'll look at and say oh Chuck you're stretching a point or two. Fine throw away half of them. That's only 50 still interesting. And it has the verse in the Old Testament the phrase about Joseph and then the New Testament fulfillment as it was in Jesus Christ and Now what I'm going to do is I'll try I really will try to have them next time and Then I will also point out to you that it's incomplete that there's a few things I've added.

But I've resisted the temptation to retype it because I figured there ought to be some Benefit to being here and filling in the things that I'll add verbally you see. So just just you know. It's very important to me not to be a crutch for you to lean on that you do your own study.

I will I might have before the printed put acts 1711 at the top. So you won't believe any of this that you will search the scriptures daily to prove whether these things be so. Whether Chuck Missler's all followed up ask anyone they'll answer that question, but I mean in terms of the the the details all right.

Joseph as a Prophetic Type of Christ

What I'd like to do even though I recognize it's a slight review. Is I'd like to start Joseph with Genesis 37 verse 1. Recognizing some of you that were here just before Christmas got a preview of what we're getting into you people can regard this as a review.

Well, I might want to mention one other thing just again put Joseph in perspective before we jump into the detail. We generally speak of four patriarchs Abraham Isaac Jacob and Joseph and those of you that may recall in Romans chapter 8 Paul Gives us some theology, but he uses as his outline the book of Genesis he says for whom he for our new then we predestinated.

Predestinated them whom he predestinated them he also called when we called them he also justified whom he justified them he also glorified. Remember that passage in Romans chapter 8 if not make a note of it look it up later.

Predestination. Abraham called of the heathen by God's arbitrary Sovereign election. Abraham it earned nothing. God called him out of the heathen world. He was chosen of the heathen to be the beginning of the of the nation.

Isaac speaks of the sonship. And Isaac shall I seed be called whom he predestined them he also called Isaac is contrasted with Ishmael of the flesh. Isaac was the supernatural birth. Versus the natural birth versus the supernatural birth.

Isaac was a supernatural for ordained birth in contrast to Ishmael. Which was a son of the flesh? Okay Jacob. It speaks of justification and we we can't help but be amused that this conniving Schemer could be justified as a patriarch and we take comfort in the fact that God can justify him.

There's hope for you and I. But he also speaks of the conflict of the spirit in the flesh and it isn't until God actually wrestles him to the ground and and lanes him that he asked that the Spirit has triumphed and Joseph is interesting because Joseph is the son of his old age ie his his spiritual after spiritual birth.

We're gonna he would. Joseph was probably five or six years old when they left Mesopotamia. The other sons were in the household amidst all the scheming and chicanery between Laban and Jacob and as you I think are all well aware as parents the children tend to be influenced by the tensions or the atmosphere of the home and you can recognize that between these quarreling women and their handmaidens and all the other hassles that were going on between Jacob and Laban the Family environment for the eleven was pretty messed up.

Joseph was the son of his old age and his greatest center of influence would have been after Jacob had his new name. And especially birth and I think that maybe it might be it's a speculation might be of interest try it on if it fits fine.

Joseph does speak of airship and he suffers first then reigns in glory. The incredible story of Joseph is going to be a fascinating drama, it's probably one of the most dramatic I might say screen worthy type episodes in the scripture and.

Yet, it's also one of the most dramatic episodes prophetically. And that's one of the things this is after all not just a study of Genesis as you know our original Stated purpose and attempt is to review the book of Genesis as a book of prophecy.

And we've done that in several different ways. We've done it in quite mystical terms in the early 11 chapters. We had the perhaps the high that the pinnacle of typology with Abraham's offering of Isaac and all of that.

Here we're going to again see a style of typology somewhat extenuated perhaps. But I think you'll find the prophetic story of Joseph provocative. We all know the story of Joseph. It's it's been in our coloring books in small children.

It has been it's a very popular story, but it's prophetic significance is something that I think will capture. What I'll presume is our more adult perspective, so that's what we'll be trying to highlight a little bit.

Okay anyone know what the word what the name Joseph means adder being added to. You can get that from Genesis 30. We're going to discover when we get to chapter 41 that Joseph gets another name Zaf Nath Pania.

It's an Egyptian name. It means the revealer of secrets. For obvious reasons as you'll see as the story unfolds and each of those has of course a New Testament fulfillment and If you in terms of Joseph's prophetic name being fulfilled in Christ.

You could turn to John 12 24 and in terms of his prophetic name of the revealer of secrets. Let Luke chapter 2 verses 34 and 35 are examples. You can note those if you want. They'll be in your notes that I'll hand out next time.

I won't take the time now to chase those down specifically because we got others to jump into. Let's start with Genesis chapter 37 verse 1 and Jacob dwelt in the land wherein his father was a traveler or sojourner in the land of Canaan and.

These are the generations of Jacob. Joseph being 17 years old was feeding the flock with his brethren and the lad was with the sons of Bilhah and with the sons of Zilpah his father's wives and Joseph brought unto his father their evil report.

Joseph the Shepherd and the Beloved Son

Well the first thing we might note of Joseph of what was his occupation? It was a shepherd. Abel Jacob Joseph Moses and David for starters were shepherds. Who is the good shepherd? Okay, so against Genesis 37 2 you could pencil in Psalm 23 if you were going to make a little column Column or notes in terms of Old Testament New Testament fulfillments.

That's easy. Okay We notice that he's opposed to evil. And if you wanted to take a look at Jesus Christ in terms of John 7 7 he obviously that was his mission, right. We're gonna get into more of that.

Let's let's move let's move on another few verses. Verse 3 now Israel. Now that's interesting you stumble right there. Because it's not very often That Jacob's new name is used. The best of my knowledge is the only person in the Bible who has his name changed.

But then it isn't always used. I mean the new name isn't always used. We can make a long list of people who have an event in their life occur where God changes their name from Abraham to Abraham Sarah I to Sarah Saul to Paul and so forth.

Here's a case where Jacob becomes Israel in all the other cases. Once the new name is given the new name is essentially used there may be an exception to. With Jacob's the other way around his new name is used as an exception.

So he's called Israel. We often even falter. We don't get we're not used to thinking of Israel as Jacob. We think of Israel the nation or what have you but Israel as this the the given the new name of Jacob is something we sort of stumble on and.

Yet when we speak of the God of Abraham Isaac and Israel Now Abraham Isaac and Jacob we even even in the context of that we speak of Jacob. We think of him in terms of the old man indeed justified. But in verse 3 we notice this is now Israel loved Joseph more than all his children.

Because he was the son of his old age and he made him a coat and the classical rendering is a coat of many colors now. There is this comes from the Septuagint and Vulgate translations. However, there is a Level of scholarship Which will argue that that's a mistranslation.

Now before I get in the mistranslation if we talk about the coat of many colors I can give you several verses in the scripture which causes you to infer that a coat of many colors implies rulership. Those of you that want to chase those things down is just a Parallel line of inquiry could look at Judges 530 and 2nd Samuel 13 18 in both cases the multiplicity of colors on a robe implies status, okay.

However before hitting that too hard I should point out to you that I I'm personally persuaded by the authors I've read that argue that that happens to be while a very traditional rendering probably an error in translation that what?

Jacob actually gave Joseph was a long-sleeved robe a long-sleeved robe now what makes that interesting to me it certainly in any case was a unique robe and by the way, the long-sleeved robe also implied rulership a sleeveless robe being that the robe of a worker and a long-sleeved robe being one of the perhaps more subtle Marks Of rulership.

In any case the intent the concept that we're talking about is essentially the same namely it was a source of envy among the brothers because he obviously was getting favored treatment of his father and Why?

Why would Jacob? Favor Joseph we all he's the youngest and when you're when you're in your he's the young son. Youngest son of Jacob's old age we can look at that in a humanistic way just as a father might favor the youngest child possibility.

Another possibility is is that this was indeed the son that grew After Jacob's I want to call it conversion, but certainly his experience his spiritual experience wrestling with the angel. It Also frankly We could visualize Jacob's favoring Joseph If for no other reason than the character and conduct of the other bunch Which were a brutal treacherous conniving I incestuous a Bunch pretty rough crowd in fact.

In fact we'll take up a study of the 12 tribes when we get to Genesis 49. It'll be convenient to do so then but the one thing you might just be sensitive to you could probably not find a more diverse group of characters in fact It can probably blow out the window a lot of theories of genetics and personality and so forth that this bunch of characters Were in the same family wild wild bunch.

The only people that might feel comfortable that people who have families who realize how diverse. I'm always amused about people who adhere to astrology to explain why to do. I twins always have the same personality.

I'd love to hear them explain that but that's another Getting back to this. Okay, so here's here's Joseph with his coat of many colors and When verse 4 and when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren they hated him and could not speak peaceably unto him and Joseph dreamed a dream and he told it to his brethren and they hated him yet the more and He said of them here I pray you this dream which I have dreamed for behold we were binding sheaves in the field and lo my sheaf arose and stood Upright and behold your sheaves stood round about and made obeisance to my sheaf.

His brethren said and us should thou indeed reign over us. They obviously understood the suggestiveness or the imagery of the dream Implying that the one would rule over the others. And they said or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us.

And they hated him yet the more for his dreams and for his words. Now Just to share with you one other thought I think is valid is that I believe that the reason those dreams were offensive go far beyond the fact that he just Happened to have the being a young kid mouthing off about these dreams.

We've all Sat around a breakfast table and heard our kids talk about some crazy dream. And why we make kid or might be annoying it might Be irritating. We generally don't take him that seriously. What made these dreams?

Significant in my opinion is that Joseph understood Or took the view that they were prophetic In the absence of the prophecy content of the dreams. They're nothing more than an annoyance to the extent that Joseph regarded these as prophetic utterances or occurrences or Suggestions.

To that extent it becomes a serious grave matter to the brothers who are threatened by them. Something may be obvious on the other hand felt was worth noting now. Let me take this down to oh about verse 11 that's verse 9 and he dreamed yet another dream and told it to his brethren and Said behold I have dreamed to dream more and behold the Sun and the moon and the 11 stars made obeisance to me.

Here again is the same model there are 12 elements and 11 of them making obeisance to the 12th the first case that was sheaves of grain in the field. But in this while there are two things now now we're suddenly using a different alphabet of ideas namely Sun and moon and stars.

Except in this case there are 13 items making obeisance to the 14th. There are indeed the 11 brothers implied by the stars and the Sun and the moon. And this dream carries Several other implications not the least of which is that involves the father notice verse 10 and He told it to his father and to his brethren this time of the circle of annoyance is broadened.

The father rebuked him and said unto him. What is this dream that thou has dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come down come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? So this dream is not just a sort of a recount of the earlier one in different symbols.

It goes one step further it also is an ext it also is seen implies that Joe the prophecy that's implied by the dream is that Joseph will reign not only over his brothers in the sense of somehow exceeding to the rights of the firstborn.

But even his father and mother will be making obeisance to him now this dream has a very very key value to you as a student of the scripture because it's also an unveiling of The book of Revelation chapter 12 the identity of the woman.

The most most commentators will argue that in Revelation chapter 12, which is the most difficult interpretive chapter of the book of Revelation and Much of what you deal with there hangs on just who is the woman of Revelation 12?

Because she has the Sun and the moon and the stars at her feet and many commentators erroneously Stumble and assume that it somehow relates to the zodiac or some other thing. Adopting the principle and everything the book of Revelation is explained somewhere in the scripture here none other than Jacob himself unravels Revelation 12 for you.

I won't spend more time on that tonight if you're interested in that you can get the tapes on Revelation 12 and Discover that Jacob is your commentator to help you avoid some key errors there. So the Sun and the moon and the stars is maybe a strange but nevertheless valid idiom for the nation Israel.

For the nation Israel, okay now notice verse 11 his brethren envied him. All right. What his father do? His father observed the saying now this this this little passage has the same Atmosphere as Mary With Christ when there were things that she didn't fully understand.

She just pondered them in her heart. He obviously took meaning many years later and here Jacob is in the same Role. He's annoyed he's obviously really upset with this his favorite son mouthing off with these kind of grandiose ideas but he apparently gives pause and retains Some allowance in his heart to see what will come of all of this.

Now continuing our little summary. Typologically we've obviously made note of the coat whether it be long-sleeved or many colors. I believe it's as long long-sleeved robe, and we obviously are drawn to the Robe of Christ which was so unique that some 800 years before he was born the psalmist in describing the crucifixion more graphically than you and I could write.

If we were going to try to describe the crucifixion as if we were hanging on the cross with all the benefit of the New Testament description we would probably fall short of the description of the crucifixion in Psalm 22.

Which is a description of the crucifixion as if it was written by Christ himself hanging from the cross my God my God why hast thou forsaken me is the way it opens and Christ in effect calls our attention at Psalm from the cross and as we read the psalm it mentions almost all the Physical details both in feeling and in vision from Christ from the cross and among those things as he looks down.

He sees the soldiers right part my garments among them, and they cast lots for my Vesture because the prize thing was this long-sleeved robe that Christ had at the they didn't want to divide. It was to die they they threw dice for or whatever.

And I commit to you Psalm 22 if that isn't a familiar experience that's a fascinating piece of message. Written as if hanging from the cross some 800 years before Christ was born in some some 22. The hatred of his brethren, it's interesting.

What John chapter 1 opens up he came unto his own and his own received him not and so forth we can you can and Psalm 212 is another example of that. Why was he hated. Why was Joseph hated because of his words.

Why was Jesus Christ hated? Because of his words. You can find John 7 7 John 8 45 18 John 10 30 and 31 and John 6 41. It's just examples of where he spoke and they got so upset. They had not only hated him.

They plotted his death. Why because of what he was saying? They hated him because of his words. Okay, we also he's obviously Conscious of his prophetic future as I've suggested to you and of course as we sang earlier this evening from Isaiah 9 6 His name shall be called wonderful counselor the mighty God the Prince of Peace and so forth.

And Luke chapter 1 there are a lot of examples of. Not only his Christ prophetic future speaking of Christ now in the antithet, but also his consciousness of that prophetic future. Now in Genesis 37 verses both 7 and 9 we have Joseph's future sovereignty foretold.

These prophetic visions described his future reign ship or sovereignty and needless to say Jesus Christ said the same thing in fact. The only statement that he makes when he's under oath in court is to attest to a second coming.

It's interesting. Not only was Christ conscious of his future sovereignty. But it was the only Statement or assertion that he allowed himself to make while under oath before the Sanhedrin that night in that illegal trial.

Refused to defend himself in any meaningful way but when the high priest Invoked on him the legal requirement to respond I Adjure thee by the Living God tell us whether thou be the Christ or no. He was bound under the law to respond and he did henceforth.

You shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds. Right if that's a Matthew chapter 26 verse 64 he not only attested to his second coming it was the one statement He made while under oath before that court.

So he foretold his sovereignty and of course the sovereignty is also foretold in Revelation chapter 12. Where the woman brings forth a man child the man child is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron and so forth.

Revelation chapter 12. Okay. We also see that he's envied by his brethren. We have a clear vision that Joseph was delivered up due to envy right. Why was Christ delivered up? Maybe this is time to do a little turning.

Joseph and Christ Delivered Up Through Envy

Let's turn to Matthew 27. Matthew 27 verse 18. The famous Barabbas scene which one will you choose and so forth? Remember they had a feast of giving they had a custom of giving away releasing a prisoner to feast and then they had a notable prisoner called Barabbas right and Pilate as a stratagem hoping to get out from under the particulars in assume that they'd naturally take this neat guy and let this conspicuous murderer robber and so forth.

Be left. But they of course being bribed so it said therefore when they were gathered together positive. And will ye that I release to you Barabbas or Jesus who is called Christ? For he knew that for envy they had delivered him that is the leaders to the leaders had delivered him for envy.

So I figured by appealing to the people he might get out from under this predicament. Remember Jesus Christ said in John chapter 5 I have come in my father's name and you receive me not. Another shall come in his own name and him you will receive.

And he was of course speaking of whom? The Antichrist, but all these prophecies that have a double fulfillment. Here's a guy in whose name his own name Barabbas who do they choose? Barabbas so in a very local small perhaps insignificant sense.

It's fulfilled here and obviously his the context that prophecy is much broader. In terms of person that we'd like to call the Antichrist you all know enough Hebrew to understand what Barabbas means, right?

Bar means what bar Jonah son of Jonah? What does bar mean son of what is Abba mean? Father so here we have Barabba son of the father which father look at John 8 year of the father. He are of your father the devil and the deeds of him you will do he says in John 8.

So it's interesting. There's something prophetically happening here. That is kind of interesting. But the main point I turn here to is verse 18 for Speaking of power. He knew he knew that for envy they delivered him.

How did Jesus get delivered up for envy? Why was Joseph sold for envy? Why was Christ sold? Envy interesting. Now you may some of you may feel Jesus getting kind of tedious and you're making it a lot of nothing and maybe so.

But bear with us and get a feeling get a sensitivity to what's happening here in addition to the very dramatic Historical narrative the Holy Spirit is doing some other things as we go but. Okay, verse 12.

And his brethren went to feed their father's flock in Shechem and Israel said to Joseph do not thy brethren feed the flock and Shechem come and I will send thee unto them. And he said unto them here or here am I in your English, but it's really just okay.

You know it's great here. I'm not let's go send me. I'm all set right and he said in my go I pray thee and see whether it be well with thy brethren and well with the flocks and bring me word again. So he went out of the veil of Hebron and he came to Shechem.

I want you to notice Joseph was sent forth by his father to seek the welfare of his brethren. Jesus Christ was sent by whom to whom? To Israel he came unto his own and his own received him not. Remember, but to as many who as who did receive him to them.

He gave power to become the sons of God. John chapter 1 very important to understand what the father was doing sent forth by his father. To seek the welfare of his brethren. Now he was sent forth From the veil of Hebron according to some authorities the word Hebron can mean fellowship or communion.

And he came to Shechem. Now the word Shechem if you look at try to find out what the place name can be translated into seems to mean Shoulder that's what you'll usually see in the margin of your Bible in this particular area.

There is a word that describes it much more accurately than your Bible dictionary. You know what the proper name for Shechem would be if we translate into English saddleback. Do you know that it's a shoulder.

A saddleback is a curvature in two directions. It's a very unusual kind of curvature. It's a specific thing. It has mathematical names I won't bore you with but it's a saddlebacks the common name. So it's a space and decision theory also where you have a minimum max kind of thing.

It's also point of decision because things will go one way or the other. It's a choice point decision point, but it can mean shoulder. Shechem though connotatively certainly to the mind of Israel or Jacob was a place of sin and sorrow.

Looking back to Genesis 34 and some of the events that occurred at Shechem. It was a place of brutality and trouble and problems. So he sent them from Hebron to Shechem verse 15 the certain man found him and behold he was wandering in the field and The man asked him saying what seekest thou and he said I seek my brethren.

Tell me I pray thee where they feed their flocks. And the man said they are departed from here. I heard them say let us go to Dothan or Dothan whatever. And Joseph went after his brethren and found them in Dothan.

I May wonder gee that's why does the Holy Spirit take all this trouble. The father says hey, we're here in Hebron they're over in Shechem. Go go see how they're doing and when he gets to Shechem he finds that they're not really there.

They're over in Dothan. Okay, and he gets he finds him in Dothan and the story continues. Why these place names? Well, it's kind of interesting. If you look at it prophetically Historically they were in different geographic location not far away fine.

Why make the why does the Holy Spirit make the point of this now if you're a cynic or a Secular author you say well, that's just part of the you know. You missed the point if you recognize that the Holy Spirit has engineered this message by every attending to every detail and All things are written aforetime for our learning.

Then it sometimes is worth the trouble to find out what might be hidden behind these place names. Let's take a look at Joseph again and visualize him as a type of Christ, and it says behold he was wandering.

Where? What is the field according to Matthew 13 the world? And who's he looking for? His brethren where does he find them in Dothan. The word Dothan happens to mean? The law in the sense of being custom a custom or a practice rule tradition.

And interesting strange coincidence system. And Joseph went after his brethren and found them in Dothan. When they saw him afar off even before he came near unto them. He conspired. They conspired against him.

For what purpose? The slam. That's interesting we find in verse 18 that Joseph was conspired against Jesus Christ was conspired against. According to our insight in the Old Testament given to us from Revelation 12.

We know he was conspired against from the time that God declared war on Satan Genesis 315 and We covered that then but just by way of review Genesis 12 highlights the fact that Satan's attack on the royal line focuses increasingly tightly as Prophecy continues to illuminate the thread that's going to produce Jesus Christ.

When it was Abraham the nation Abraham when it first of all was the seed of the woman it became Abel and Abel was slaughtered by his brother and right on through. When it was Noah's was saved from the world first of all the world then was contaminated by the sons of God and the daughters of men.

Leaving the last perhaps uncorrupted thread being Noah and God Destroys the rest and saves Noah. Satan can now work on Noah and a shem is the favored one. Prophetically by Noah's prophecy the Shemit line was focused on and you can just walk you can just look through the whole Old Testament and see a conspiracy and.

As it's Abraham Isaac Jacob as it goes as we discover. It'll be the royal tribe of Judah. We'll discover the royal tribe of Judah has specific problems as it becomes known through prophecy. That'll be of the house of David.

Whose house do you think is singled out by Satan? An attempt to corrupt it and destroy the royal line all the way through and if you in the whole whether it's a Do a study on Revelation 12 get the tape or go back when we review this in earlier in the book.

And you will probably find that a very fruitful study. So he's conspired against but in a more specific sense Jesus Christ is conspired against when he was born by none other than Herod. He pulls the same stunt that Pharaoh set the precedent for with Moses slaughter all the babies but of course he's conspired against in a much more specific case in Matthew chapter 12 and.

And of course the conspiracy becomes tighter and tighter and we'll talk more about that as a conspiracy around. Joseph gets tighter and tighter. So let's move on a little bit. Verse 19 and they said to one another behold this dreamer cometh.

Come now let us therefore let us slay him and cast him into some pit and we will say some evil beast hath devoured him. And we shall see what shall become of his dreams. I'm going to suggest to you that they hated his words, but also his words were disbelieved.