Jesus and Discipleship — Dean Taylor

It is it is really a blessing to be here. This has been kind of a reunion for us. We've had a very busy summer down in Mexico and just got back literally days before we came out this way and and seeing some of you has been is such a blessing.

Seeing all of you has been such a blessing but some of you have been getting a lot older. I'm glad that I haven't been aging like you have but it's amazing seeing some of you and it's just a tremendous blessing.

I can't think of a better place to come and to sing and brother John D leading music they have Matthias have overhauled singing it's I'm just tremendously blessed already. I'm also blessed with this theme this idea of discipleship that was given to us the speakers that were given these these topics and as you look at this concept of discipleship I agree that I think it's it's very important.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer put it this way he said Christianity without discipleship is always Christianity without Christ. John Wesley said and as I ponder some of the powerful things that I have personally experienced in my life even here even at this camp even in Lancaster County even in this whole area John Wesley has a challenging word when he speaks of just the movements of God he says I am more and more convinced that the devil himself desires nothing more than this that the people of any place should be half awakened and then left to themselves to fall asleep again and as he spoke of this he spoke of his desire to to have his discipling programs that he did which eventually was called the Methodist Church part of what he was about.

I have been blessed in my life I think of the men that I've had in my life and I I should be much further seriously in my journey from the people that I have had the pleasure I think of my life some of the people who have taken time to disciple me the Briseau family David Briseau brother John D Martin setting here has been a big part of discipling in my life.

Denny Kinniston had a big part brother Dale Heisey setting here recently even through some of the difficulties over the last few years and and brother your tapes and your ministry and just meeting with me at times has been a big importance to me and I thank the Lord for that and I do see the importance of this because I do believe there is a a crisis since in the earth today you know history goes through times of ups and downs but every now and then or every so many a century or so there's a big change there's big thing bigger things happening and there's many things both from the economic and from the spiritual and from the things that we see in this earth that's it seems to be that that we are heading towards one of those times and through this I have since and I have been speaking to many people that there is an encouraging paradigm shift and I'm encouraged to be here this this morning and just with the people that are here the I'm encouraged and being around some of these young fellowships that are are now taking those words of Jesus and beginning to take them very seriously.

Ministries that are based churches that are based around ministries and and activities and works of God and several the groups that are represented here I I I'm not just flattering you you can listen to my places that I speak I brag on you all the time and they're almost all here this morning and so I praise the Lord for that.

I thank the Lord for that. So it's tremendously blessed to be here you know as they give me the topic that when all the different things came and the topic that came to me was the topic of Jesus in discipleship and I'm blessed with that but it's very challenging.

I've had a sort of I don't know calling on my life a burden on my life to try. One of my models in my life is to try to put the teachings of Jesus and his most practical way as possible by the grace of God and that's see that's been my journey when I was in the army it was the revelation that Jesus meant what he said that changed everything for me and so that's been a continued journey for me and so I've tried and I felt this miserably but it's been my attempt has been what I've tried to do is to put the teachings of Jesus into practice and so as we look at this this theme today Jesus and discipleship I'm going to try to to put talk about the way that Jesus discipled in a very literal way and I want to make a confession that I don't want you to think oh I that I'm here or that all these things.

I live in a community so I have all these things I know I need this in our community needs these things more than you do and so I but I see these words of Jesus I it reminds me the first time we heard I heard John D preach been over 20 years ago brother David Brousseau and I we heard you in Oklahoma there in Perkins and and he was preaching these things that I had never heard before.

And I remember brother David stood up and he said you know I want to make a confession. I'm not where brother John D is but I dare not. How do you how did he word it. I dare not anesthetize the teachings of Jesus to make myself feel comfortable.

And so I want to bring up these these discipling methods of Jesus Christ and ponder them together with you on a journey with you and and ponder this paradigm that I've tried to live in my in my life is this you know what if Jesus really meant every word he said.

And as we ponder that paradigm it becomes something beautiful. A year a few years ago I ran across. I ran across this newspaper article and it's actually from January 25th of 1879. Interesting newspaper article.

It's a reprint from a London Times article and it was from the New York Times January from the London Telegraph repeating in the New York Times January 25th. And suddenly it's about a discovery that they had found some of the manuscripts of Bach.

And here's the newspaper article. It's interesting it says great excitement has been created in German musical circles by the discovery in an old country mansion belonging to the noble Saxon family of Witzhund of the large number of manuscripts compositions by John Sebastian Bach hitherto believed to have been irretrievably lost.

Skipping a little bit Robert France the well-known composer and editor of Bach's works determined to undertake this enterprise they wanted to go and find and search all through Germany to see if they could find some of these manuscripts determined to undertake this enterprise and to set upon it in the most minute and painstaking manner imaginable.

He went from town to village and from village to country house examining garrets and cellars and turning over vast accumulations of inconceivable rubbish but in vain. Until he came to Schloss Witzhund.

There walking through the park toward the house he noticed a that the stakes to which the young fruit and ornamental trees had been tied were padded with paper instead of leather or rags generally used in Germany to prevent young trees from chafing against the poles by which they are supported and kept straight.

He went close to one of these saplings animated as he himself admits more by idle curiosity than by any definite hope connected with the immediate purpose of his mission. What was his joy. What was his horror upon recognizing Bach's well-known and beautiful notation upon the paper padding he eagerly inquired of the gardener who was accompanying him through the grounds whence he had obtained where he obtained the manuscript.

The man replied phlegmatically quote up in the loft under the roof there are several trunks full of old music which was of nobody's use. So I took it to the wrapped around the trees. And the paper was thick and strong.

And it did just as well for the purpose of leather or linen rags. And I've been using it for a long while now you know as I've noticed. But when we deal with the words of Jesus we deal with the scriptures in a lot of ways.

It's kind of like that we have been given these words to perform a beautiful symphony to make music and to sing something that the world needs to hear. And we turn it into some kind of weird thing. We pad paper with it and use it for for something that it was never intended to be.

So today as we open up the words of Jesus and look at the way he discipled let's ponder for a moment. Let's all be challenged. And please don't think that I don't know or that my community doesn't need this.

I guarantee you more than you do. And so as we look into this let's look together and be challenged without anesthetizing it. The words of Jesus and discipleship. Now as we do this first of all we think of Jesus and his way of discipling.

And you know Jesus put all his campaign all his theology all his grand design into the most simplest two words imaginable even follow me that is Christianity in a nutshell. Having Jesus Christ within us following him is Christianity.

You know first Corinthians 130 what does it say in him. Somebody can quote it for me before I get there by. And first Corinthians chapter 130. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus who of God is made into us wisdom and righteousness and sanctification and redemption that according as it is written he that glorieth let him glory in the Lord Jesus Christ is Christianity.

Albert Einstein says if you can explain it to a six if you can't explain it to a six-year-old you don't understand it yourself. Albert Einstein he's he said that the most brilliant concepts of complexities of physics if you understand them properly should be able to brought down to something simple.

And so if I could bring everything entirety of what Jesus represents it's in those two words follow me. And as we look at the two the things I tried to break down this is certainly not an exhaustive list but I tried to break down the some things that are that I saw that are challenging and trying to look at in a practical way that Jesus did now most of these things we've spiritual eyes.

And there's a spiritual aspect. I mean in many ways the the idea of being discipled by Jesus Christ far you have to spiritual eyes and we can't repeat that. But I'm going to dive in and look at some of the techniques that he used and try to look at it in a practical way.

So for things that I wanted to bring out about Jesus and discipling. Number one he asked them to abandon everything and follow him. Number one he asked him to abandon everything and follow him. Number two he asked them to immerse them immediately into a life of constant ministry from the beginning you can argue against it but that's what he did immediately brought the disciples into a life of constant ministry.

Number three he called those disciples to live intimately together. I think and I think in this circle I could even use the term he called them to live into a sort of community a gathering together an intimate fellowship dependent on each other was part of the discipling process that he did.

And number four as John Deas did say that I was going to preach on he had them embrace the cross. He had them embrace the cross. So let's go through those. Number one abandon everything. Why. Why did Jesus call those apostles to abandon everything in that way.

Jesus put it this way. If anyone comes to me speaking to those you know out loud imagine you're now here. If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters yay and even his own life he cannot be my disciple.

Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. So likewise whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be my disciple. Now again we've spiritualized these things.

I want you to bring it now more to the practical and let's be challenged by it not anesthetizing it and looking at why did Jesus his methods. Why did he call his disciples. Why was Jesus's method of disciple it such radical abandonment of their jobs of their occupations of their family associations of their national standing everything he called for that later on he when he gave them their commission to go he said when he called him when he called into them the twelve he began to send them forth by two and by two and gave them power over unclean spirit and commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey save a staff only no script no bread no money in their purse but be shod with sandals and not put on two coats.

You know this this idea of this this total renunciation is he. He wasn't just starting a school of thought. He was starting a nation. He was starting a kingdom. When they said Jesus is Lord it had huge political ramifications see Caesar said Caesar is Lord was actually statues.

We found this a Caesar is Lord on it. And them saying Jesus is Lord had political ramifications. It excluded that Caesar was not. It meant that Jesus was Lord and he was planting a nation a kingdom of God that he wanted them to be renouncing everything else but the kingdom of God.

You know it's if you join and become American citizen today. I want to read you just a clip from the the oath that you have to say if you become American citizen here it is you're coming from Yugoslavia or what's Russia whatever.

And you're coming to America and you're and you're wanting to become a citizen. This is still the oath today. Quote. I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince potentate state and source sovereignty of whom or which I have hitherto hitherfore been a subject or citizen that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies etc.

Wow. America understands the need for absolute loyalty. Jesus cried for that. I I'm I am I am upset when I see our upset I'm I'm disappointed when I see kingdom Christians getting involved with politics.

It just means you don't understand what Jesus is Lord means you don't understand it. You know in the very first command when God said you shall have no other gods before me. That concept of no other God is the Hebrew word Pawnee.

It means in my presence. It doesn't mean just to have the priority like you shall have no other gods before me more than me. It means in my presence you shall have no other gods in my presence nothing.

It's not just I want to be tops I want to be everything. And that's the kind of commitment that Jesus Christ was asking of these people. He was asking of them. John. And you know when the pilot asked Jesus you know people are saying you're a king.

And he and Jesus replied my kingdom is not of this world unless my citizens would fight. Pilot answer. Are you a king then. I think many of us sometimes effect talk about the there are citizenship with Jesus Christ in that way.

And you almost treat Jesus are you even a king. Then truly embracing the concept of absolute allegiance to Jesus Christ was what he was asking of these Apostles. But even more he was having them take everything all the trust they had and themselves and their possessions and their associations and their families and creating something new.

And Galatians 4 3 it says even so we when we were children were in bondage under the elements of the world. Colossians 2 8 says see to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men according to the elementary principles of the world rather than according to Christ.

Romans chapter 12 you know the passage at verse 2 and be not conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. That word conformed in Greek is the word that they would have like a press.

You know I'm you know like a seal. It comes from external forces that are being pressed upon you to be pressed. Do not be conformed but be transformed. You know what the word was the word transform brother Joseph it's the word metamorphic.

It's to be transformed and in like a like a caterpillar turns into a butterfly. Don't be conformed by this world having the outside pressures turn us into something but be transformed metamorphosed into something beautiful that Christ makes you.

That's what Paul's telling us. But they're going there and so they're challenging. He challenged them not only though with his political association with his family association for some reason he stripped them of even their financial dependency.

He stripped them of something of relying on themselves. And you know I remember when in my journey and again I get I've tried to have this this journey of trying to put the words of Jesus as practical as practical as I can.

That's the way I started. So it kind of affects me. And I remember one of the things that I dealt with you know is that is the classic one of the rich young ruler and it's always a very challenging thing.

The story that Jesus gave the rich young ruler it's one ruler. It's one of the cries that we get here of discipling Jesus of Jesus form of discipleship. But I always said to myself well you know it says that Jesus knew what was in his heart so a good that's not in my heart and you know I don't have to worry about it.

I remember I remember another story giving you a plugs your brother John D. I remember setting I was actually teaching at one of your Bible schools and you were teaching and you're preaching on on on Luke 12 and I never really hit me the same way as when brother John D was preaching it there and as it says in John excuse me Luke chapter 12 verse 30 speaking Jesus is again summarizing the Sermon on the Mount summarizing not caring about the things of this world.

And verse 30 he says for all these things do the nations of the world seek after and your father knoweth that you have need of these things but rather seek ye the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added to you fear not little flock for it is your father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom sell that you have and give alms provide for themselves provide yourselves bags which wax not old or treasure in heaven that faileth not where no thief approach nor neither mouth moth corrupt.

For where your treasure is there your heart will be also. And that's a journey that's a continual thing. And as I've tried to follow that and be pricked in my conscience by that God's had to rebuke me many times.

I remember one time that it strikes me that in that rebuke is is when I was heading to to living in a Christian community and you know you have a tendency to you know kind of pat yourself on the back and kind of think pharisaical and as I stood out there and I looked at my moving truck I was thinking oh the rich young ruler just didn't know you could call a u-haul and get it moved to the community you know and and so God has continually had to beat me down with the pharisaical thinking and brought me continually on a journey.

But what I have found is that the more I surrender the more he gives. And you can't out give God but he wants to do something in those Apostles. And I don't know what I I can't. I can't know exactly why Jesus was doing that.

But you know the I remember one time I was at a meeting it was years ago and I was at a meeting and I felt again something in my heart and these brothers were giving good solid advice but they were talking about how to get your cause or your mission desire or something how to properly ask a financial institution in Lancaster County or whatever you know how to how to go about asking them for money and support and as they were giving very practical they just had you know they had the guts to say what everybody knew to be said that you know you're supposed to speak good about them and behind the scenes you should you know those sorts of things.

And as I began to listen to that I thought wow you mean we're getting to the point where because I own this wealth I can actually control the missions of what's happening amongst the Anabaptist people.

And I felt that in my own heart and it struck me struck me hard. You know the Proverbs says the poor man uses entreaties but the rich man answer us roughly. So is there something why. Is there something more.

And what Jesus asked of them. Is there something that he asked of them. You know I found that there's maybe a different you're a different man when there's something difference between your being generous and being needy I found there's something different than of there's a difference between giving and sharing.

It does something different to you as a man. You know I I would have you ever read the book mere discipleship by Lee camp. He makes an argument in there talking about that. Perhaps one of the reasons why Jesus had this sort of an idea is that with when you're a different state economically whatever you ask different questions.

He talked about athanasius during the during the the big Trinity debates of the three hundreds and how he stood for whom you see in meaning the same substance of the father was the term to be of if you're a Christian.

He talked about Luther on how his concept of ubiquitous grace in his consubstantiation you know had to be defended. And he asked in this. In that book he says one ask different questions of the meaning of God depending on whether one finds oneself in the ivory towers or the slave cabin in Pharaoh's throne or Pharaoh's mud pits in the boardroom or the sweatshops where we are and where we have been deeply affects who we think God is and what we think God wants us to be.

This was the basis during the seventies a movement that responded terribly in their their response was a liberation theology trying to say poor people see the Bible differently. Their response though some of them acted unfortunately with revolution.

But where you are and the situations that you you see the Bible and you read the Bible differently. Is there possibly something there. Now one thing though that I have also noticed. Okay when you start to talk about radical Jesus economics there's something that can tend to happen.

That's kind of ugly. And I know how to explain this the right way. But there seems to be the sense of almost a self-righteous poverty or a non-working. I don't know it's it's like a misunderstanding of the idea of what Jesus is wanting to do.

You see the point is that in the midst of that surrender Jesus desires to make us rich. To make us rich and not rich in a materialistic way but that full dependence on God. You see in the kingdom that he describes.

If you go to the sermon on the mount the rich guy says ow the poor guy says praise the Lord. You know this is the kingdom that he's establishing. But the concept is that we live in a world that's kind of strange.

You know our economics and our of Western civilization builds our our wealth on scarcity. So if something's scarce it's valuable you know like diamonds are very valuable gold is very valuable. But you know fields and grass and oxygen and water those things are not valuable.

And this concept of false scarcity is something that that the world lives by Jesus in this sense wants to say I will provide everything. And he does. It's interesting the response that he gets from the Apostles.

You know Paul I mean excuse me Peter. And Matthew 19 says and answered Peter and said behold we have forsaken all and followed thee what shall we have therefore. And Jesus answered that in a beautiful way.

You see he gets glory from giving. And I found this what little tiny things I've done. And you've all done much more than I have. But what little things I've done I've. It's a blessing to see how God just keeps providing.

And later Jesus says and he said it to them when I sent you without purse and script and shoes lackey anything. And they said nothing. So this concept of of blessing Jesus and and and and coming to him is is one of the biggest rejoicing that he gets.

And so the desire in the kingdom that we go forth in these ministries he sent the Apostles out he's establishing something he wants to be glorified in these disciples for some reason he stripped them of that way.

He stripped them now there's another thing that comes a little challenging that happens when you get around on a radical thinking now there's many things that that rebuke and the scriptures as far as living luxuriously and living by pleasure and living your pleasure in that sort of thing.

But Jesus goes further than that and to the disciples he rebukes them not just for living luxuriously that's what they weren't. But he rebukes the concept of just having storage. He wants that faith trust in him.

You know what did the the guy who built bigger barns do wrong. We just had a good crop. Hey the Sun came in that. Well and he built bigger barns. His problem was that he just kept resting on that for some reason within radical economics there's sometimes a concept well I'll just have kind of an old car and an old house but I'll have these big storehouses.

Jesus wants to the disciples to touch that to touch that. And there's something about having that lack of control and circulating that thing. There's a book can't necessarily recommend by Lewis Hyde who speaks of the concept of of this gift being returned and going around and received by different people.

And he brings up an interesting quote. That's where I got the quote from that when the Puritans came to Massachusetts up here there's a diary written in 1764 where they talked about this idea of the way the Indians gave things the Indian generosity and they used the term.

And this is where we get the term and they were Indian givers. And what the what the concept was. Is that okay. So there's they're setting there the Puritans there and the American Indian gives him a peace pipe so he gives him the peace pipe and but instead of circling that letting this then giving the peace pipe to someone else and giving to someone else the colonists said great I'll go send this to the British Museum.

He sends it off to the British Museum and it's taken out of the use in the circulation of what God has intended those gifts to be. He wants us to have that generosity and that gift that we share. And that's the kind of thing that we see walking with the with the Apostles.

It was beautiful. It was a beautiful concept. Jesus said do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break into steel. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break into steel.

For where your treasure is there your heart will be also. This is the same thing not even living in a community life but in Paul later on in 2nd Corinthians chapter 8 verse 9 in the verse and chapter 9 makes it clear they weren't living in a an axe type of community but but also talk about this concept.

The Apostle Paul says for you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and though he was rich yet for our sake he became poor that ye through his poverty might be rich. And here and I give my advice for this is expedient for you who have begun before not only to do but also to be forward a year ago now therefore perform the doing of it that that as there was readiness to will so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.

For if there be first a willing mind is accepted according to the man that hath and not that he hath not for I mean not that the other man be ease and ye be burdened but by any quality. But now at this time your abundance may be the supply of their want and their abundance also may be supplied for your want that there be any quality as it is written for that had gathered much had nothing over and he that gathered little had no lack.

The concept that he giving is the manna. What happened when you collected the man and try to stick it on the shelf. It rotted. It needed to be used. He has poured his resources and his blessings and his wealth into this nation and into this county.

And he wants us to use it. Don't be scared if we take this literally. Don't be scared. That was the first total of total abandonment. Why. Lord. Why did you do this to your disciples. The next one to immense to immerse himself into a life of constant ministry.

When Jesus came to his inaugural address when he came before the start of his ministry. This is what he said in Luke 4 chapter 4 verse 16. And he came to Nazareth where it had been brought up. And his custom was he went into the Sabbath synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read.

And there was delivered to him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book he found the place where it was written. Verse 18. The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor.

He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted to preach deliverance to the captives to recover of sight to the blind and to set at liberty them that are bruised to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. Many most scholars think that's the Jubilee.

And he closed the book and gave it to the minister and sat down in the eyes of all that were the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say to him this day is a scripture fulfilled in your ears.

This is a a beautiful a beautiful concept. And you know this idea is the vision of Jesus Christ immediately involved in action immediately involved in those kinds of things. You know Habakkuk 2 2 says speaking of the future he says.

And the Lord answered me and said write a vision and make it plain on tables that that he may run that read us it. This was Jesus's vision instantly involved in those things. And we see it coming out of the Apostles.

This was his discipling method. Matthew 4 23. Jesus went through Galilee teaching in the synagogues preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing every disease and sickness among the people. Luke 8 1.

After this Jesus traveled about one town and village to another proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The 12 are with him. Luke 9 6. So they went out and went from village to village preaching it says.

It says another place. And he said to them come you for a thousand and take a part in the desert place and rest for a while. For there were many coming and going and they had no leisure so much as to eat.

They were very involved in ministry from the very beginning. Why do you think this is. Why do you think God called the disciples immediately into such an act of life. There's an interesting diary on if any of y 'all read the the diary of David Brainerd.

He was a missionary in this area and one of the interesting quotes that I have from his diary is in 1745 he writes. Very dear brother he's writing a letter. I am in one continued perpetual and uninterrupted hurry.

I am in one continued perpetual and uninterrupted uninterrupted hurry. And divine grace throws so much upon me that I do not see it will ever be otherwise may I obtain mercy of God to be faithful to the death.

This concept of being and having a agenda of Jesus Christ the acts the acts uses the word the way they were people of the way that's who they were. The idea of discipleship comes. The word the Greek word used for discipleship comes two hundred and forty times in the book of Acts alone.

Why do they throw so much instantly into ministry again. I ask the question when we're involved in those types of things we ask different questions. Why is your church here. You know I've probably read most of the the histories of the different denominations that are represented here and know some of the stories of the churches that are here today.

And for the most part they started from either someone coming to liberal and another church has started or something like a doctrinal issue had come up some advancement or something like that. But very few churches have been started around the ministry.

That's why actually I'm very excited about some of the new movements I even hear here in this in this in this gathering a basing a church around the ministry instead of basing a church around a reaction is quite a different thing.

You know in 449 there was a an argument over how can Jesus be fully divine and fully human all in one person. And they had such a defied about they started debating the different camps and everything.

And seriously it's recorded that the hippodrome they had like they were there watching these you know gladiator sporting events and the Orthodox so-called guys were this blue ribbon on their show their their sleeve.

And those who became the monophysites had this green one on their sleeves and they fought back and forth on this this theological argument to finally they had a synod and some bishops came in and tied up the other bishops and and made them by force right that they agreed to this other way and then had him slaughtered that happened in 449 is called the robber synod.

That's not what Jesus intended and when we get but we'll see if you're constantly involved in ministry you ask different questions. Be careful not to get the right answers to the wrong questions. So we live in a I live in a church that used to be part of an old order system and if and I I I challenged what you know to our brothers that are there.

If all of our decisions that we make are all just new freedoms that we express from leaving the old order system we're in trouble. But if we are asked if we are involved immediately in ministry you begin to ask a different set of questions.

And I think this is one of the reasons why Jesus had them instantly involved in doing the work of God. It causes you to ask different questions. Be very careful. You know this this quietism. Robert Friedman who wrote the book on anabaptist theology has another good book pietism through the centuries says that he believes that anabaptist lost this fervent desire for missions and activity from the pietist that this sort of quietism and and type of thing and just self-focused overextended was something they received from the pietist instead of what the original anabaptist were.

Like I if you look at the differences it's it's quite possible. He's right. The great command sometimes called the Great Commission says this in Matthew 28 and 11 of the 11 disciples went away into Galilee into the mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

Verse 17 chapter 28. And when they saw him they worshipped him but some doubted and Jesus came and spake unto them saying get this all power is given unto me in heaven and earth. Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and watch this lo I am with you always even into the end of the world.

Now there's there's a there's a deadly poison that comes into churches and it says this you know when we get it all right then we'll begin to minister. When we get it all right. I was reading through the Hutterian Chronicles and coming to the 1800 they put in a letter the Moravians visited a Hutterite colony in Russia and the the Moravian is rebuking the minister by saying why don't you have these missions that you used to.