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Misfits, a misfit in the trailer park at night, a misprint with the six cents, been sick ever since my brother died of an OD, my two cents never made sense, either to me or anyone else's side of the sheet fence, my 9 Smith on my right side, the bottom line, the bottom line is I'm not right, I'm not left but this elephant won't fight, find my assigned seat to sit in, my theology don't fit in, black sheep of the reformation, sheep pen, reformed, I'm just another Baptist, baptized again, the bastard child of an reformation, and beer cans, yo yo yo, what's up, hope everybody is doing good, as you can tell from the bottom of the screen, it doesn't say Open Earth Theology, this is my channel, and we thought we'd jump on my channel tonight, and my channel is the Black Sheep Gang, and so we're just saying what's up, my name is Jeff, and I am one of the co-hosts of Open Earth Theology, and we're all here tonight just to talk a little crap and stuff like that, but I am one of the pastors of Covenant Reformed Baptist Church in Tallahoma, Tennessee, and there's really not much else to say, I'm going to pass it over to this old man over here before he just turns to dust and flies away.
Hey everybody, my name is Tom Sheppard, and I'm with Even of None, I'm also a co-host of Open Air Theology, I'm also a member of Grace Bible Church of Birney, Texas, which is about 20 miles north of San Antonio, and we do evangelism every weekend in Fredericksburg, Birney, San Antonio, as far south as Corpus Christi, sharing the gospel in the streets, I'm glad to be here, and Red, I don't know if you know it, but your mute button is on, but it's down to you, bro.
What's going on, brothers, can you hear me?
Yeah.
We can hear you.
Okay, is there any echo or anything like that?
Well, that's okay, you've never sounded good anyway.
You have like a shine right here.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, man, got the new dude going on. I'm a member at Covenant Reformed Baptist Church, an evangelist there, and just seeking to glorify God and make His name known.
Amen.
Amen, amen. So how was church today, Red?
Church is always phenomenal, man, we always have a good time fellowshiping, worshiping the Lord. The preaching was second to none today.
Do you have a guest preacher?
No, man, but Pastor Jeff preached on Hebrews chapter two, verses five through 17, on the purpose of Christmas. And it's just a different facet of God's grace that Jeff just played today, extolling the excellencies of Christ, it was really good.
That's awesome, man. Mine was good too. We had a short service today. Well, actually not a short service, but we didn't have equipping classes in the morning because of the holidays. And surprisingly, typically, I think here at our church, it doesn't really fill up the holidays.
A lot of guests were there today, and Michael Beck preached in Luke chapter one, when the angel Lord, when Gabriel was telling Mary about the king of kings, she was getting ready to give birth to. So it was a God incarnate, that God became a man and lived a life in our place and went to the cross and paid for our sin.
It was, man, that story never gets old, never gets old.
I'll tell you what, if that story is owed to you, you might need to check your heart.
That's right.
Absolutely, man.
Yeah, we did have a good Lord's day. We've been going through, so the whole month of December, I've been teaching Sunday school. And when I've been teaching on Christology, right? And that's what we've been learning about the two natures of Christ.
Christ, Jesus is truly God. And every way that the Father and the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus in his incarnation is God. And he's also truly man. And every way that you and I are a human being, look at that Bible, Jesus also was a human being, right?
And so like we've been going through different heresies, such as Apollinarianisms, which taught that Jesus was, his body was truly human, but his mind was a divine mind. And if that's the case, he's not truly human, right?
And I've even been getting down to the blood, like a lot of people, like especially, I think it was in the 70s and 80s and early 90s, with the Independent Fundamental Baptists, they had an issue, you know, that the blood of Jesus was divine.
It was not human blood. Well, if that's the case, then Jesus wasn't truly a human. And so just kind of pointing out that when the Bible talks about the blood of Jesus, it's a euphemism for the gospel, the death that he died in our place.
We're covered. So basically, when we say we're washed in the blood, we're washed in the gospel of Jesus Christ, the work that he has done in our place.
Right.
And then
We're not just talking about the blood, we're talking about his death.
Yeah, yeah.
But what. Jeff
We're caught into our sermon, so.
Jeff highlighted this morning that in Bible study, Sunday school, that there was nothing special about Jesus' blood. You know, if there was, if it was something special about his blood, then he wasn't every way human like we are, you know?
It was really good.
But it was because of who he was.
The two natures in one person.
Well, what makes his death special is the life that he lived in our place.
So he had to be the spotless lamb. In order for a lamb to be sacrificed and for that blood to please God, it had to be spotless.
Right, right.
And so in order for a human blood to please God, that human blood has to be, has to have a spotless record.
And that's where Christ came in our place, lived his act of obedience and live in the life that we could not live. His passive obedience would mean nothing outside of his act of obedience.
So
You know, it's interesting. That can get really deep.
I mean, deep.
No, we've been going pretty deep.
It's been fun too. We've been last minute.
And the question, the questions that Jeff has posed, he listed 30 questions for us to answer throughout our Sunday school. And we've only, we've gotten through 19 of them and he skipped a few, but they've been really challenging.
Sure.
Yeah, they make you think. I mean, you think about it. God cannot die, which is another reason why he had to come as a man. To not put death in our place.
And because you can't separate the two natures. So in one sense, you can accurately say that God did die.
And it also says God is not a man.
And yet he becomes a man. And yet he didn't die.
Yeah, his deity didn't die.
But the man that had, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But you can, because you can't separate the two natures. So since the incarnation, you can't separate the two natures. So you can rightly say that God died because of the human flesh that died. Just like you can rightly say that Mary held God in her arms.
And you can rightly say that as Mary was holding God in her arms, that Jesus, as God, was holding the universe together by the word of his power.
That's exactly what I wrote down. So I quoted him this morning in my sermon notes says, Mary held God in her arms while Jesus held the universe together by the word of his power. And he's taken that from the Chalcedonian definition.
But also in the Hebrews chapter one.
Yeah, not only in the incarnation, not only in his birth. He was holding everything together as he was a child. Think about the cross. He was holding everything together as they were nailing him to the cross.
That's enough. That's enough to put a smile on a Baptist's face, ain't it?
You better believe it. That'll make you go from juice to wine.
What we say in Telehoma.
Telehoming.
If that don't fire you, if that don't fire you up, your wood's wet.
I mean, the church looks great. I saw a before and after picture.
Yeah, it looks good, man. You know, there's still some things that we need. But all in all, everything's coming together really good.
Somebody posted on your Facebook, Jeff. They said that you made it. You made a change from that boring old Baptist white.
But that Baptist white was actually like it wasn't white. It was it was lavender. Yeah, it was.
Even the walls look lavender because of the light coming in, reflecting off from the carpet.
It was bad.
It was terrible.
You can like when I walked in, I knew that the no man had any say so in that church. Yeah, like there's that video that's going around or that that that black guy, he says, I ain't gay no more. After we painted those walls, I walked in.
I could have swore I heard the church building say, I ain't gay no more.
Hey, at least they ain't woke.
We might be broke.
But we ain't woke.
I'd rather be broke than woke.
Did you guys get any evangelism done this weekend or past weekend?
I haven't been able to do anything. My Saturdays has been focusing at the church. And normally, usually when it gets like super, super cold, I don't get to go out much because I don't like you to code.
I was trying to sell red. We can take these Saturdays and work on some teaching stuff, training him in some areas. But he's too much of an evangelist. He don't want to do that. He wants to get out there and preach all the time.
I get it. I get it.
But he's got a little more meat on him, which today he summarized as he's just got a little more of the Holy Spirit.
That's right. More room for the more room for the feeling, baby.
Yeah, I do. We had gone, well, we did some evangelism. Actually, there was two events. There's a guy by the name of Daniel that goes to our church, and he's got a big heart for the Afghan community in San Antonio, the Pashtun tribe, actually.
And that's one of the people groups that is least gone to hear the gospel and all that. And they went out Saturday with a mercy ministry, giving them clothes and sharing the gospel with them and stuff like that.
And I wasn't there. My wife and I and we had some other people from a different church. Actually, Ryan Denton's old church out of Dallas, actually, or he's affiliated with Vanguard, Covenant Presbyterian.
Anyway, I went out with them to Fredericksburg. But I want to tell you, so these guys, Bobby and Daniel went out and Latisha and a couple others went out and they met this Afghan group, mostly kids, six years old, seven year old, 10 years old.
And they've been trained up by their parents to just hate the infidels. They were throwing cake at them, kicking their cars, flipping them off, cussing at them. These are six and 10 year old kids.
Wow, that is awful.
And the parents were around and they were supporting them. And as Daniel was telling me the story, Bobby was telling one of the adults, he was saying, we're coming with you in love and you guys are responding by hate and condoning what the kids were doing.
And he goes, our kids don't act like that. Christian kids, not that they're perfect and everything, but they don't act like that. You don't go over there and you don't do that to adults, but just horrible.
And these are the people that came over, the refugees from Afghanistan when the whole thing, when Trump brought them over because they were helping the United States. But and that's what they were treating the gospel.
And then we went out caroling and I don't mean to take it all up. We went out to the neighborhoods. It wasn't really promoted real big in the church at all. It wasn't mentioned from the pulpit at all and everything, but it was passed around by mouth.
Who's going to want to go do caroling? And we started downtown Bernie. Nobody was downtown Bernie. So we went in the neighborhoods, rose 40 people from our church. 36 of us came from our church. And I can sing as a group, but not solo.
Thanks for sparing us.
Anyway, so yeah, you're welcome. We went from house to house and we rang the doorbell and we just started singing. And the people came out and we gave a gospel message out there, every song. You guys, it was such a blessing.
It was awesome. And then we went to Fredericksburg. And like I've always said, every holiday time in Fredericksburg at Markiplier, when they turn out the lights, I send a video on Facebook. Bros, a thousand people were there, literally a thousand people standing around and listening to the gospel.
It's such an encouragement when, you know, it's such a good time of year to do evangelism.
So that was our weekend.
What you were saying about the Afghans that were so hostile towards the gospel, Pastor Jeff really emphasized today also in 2 Timothy chapter two, verses 24 through 25, the slave of the Lord must not be quarrelsome, you know, and must be able to correct those that oppose the gospel with gentleness in hope that the Lord will grant repentance that leads to the full knowledge of Christ or the full knowledge of the truth rather.
Yeah, so that's something we have to keep in the forefront of our mind when we go out to a hostile world.
Yeah, one of the things in Hebrews that I think a lot of people overlook is that, you know, Paul, I believe, is preaching a message. And Luke is describing what he preached, right? Because the theology is Pauline and the writing is more Lukean.
It's that, you know, the Hebrew Christians there, they're on the run. They're being persecuted by Jewish, you know, by the religious Jews. And they're being put to death. They're, you know, they're being slaughtered.
You know, they're being, you know, told that Christ is victor. And they're boning, you know, victory over this persecution. And so whenever you look into the Hebrew story, the Jewish story, they held to like angels leading them.
So there's stories all throughout the Old Testament, how an angel would come and either empower them in victory or an angel would come and slaughter their enemies. And so that's the kind of victory that they were looking for.
They were looking for some kind of an angel of the Lord to come and with a sword and to mop up the Jewish religion and to save them. And Paul is saying, no, God did not send an angel to subdue the world.
That word subdued there. It's hapatazzo and it means to take control of or to put in subjection, to subdue, to put under one's rule or obedience.
And tell us what we have, Jeff. Tell us, I can't wait. I tell us what we got. Yes, the sword.
Instead of the sword, he sent his son, you know, and through his life, death, burial, resurrection, especially particularly in his death. So this is that euphemism of the blood, right?
In his death, he defeats the devil by taking away his power, power of death, and that's him being bound. And so the devil can no longer deceive the nations. And that although it looks, it doesn't look like he has put the world in subjection.
He has.
And the only way to see nations come to Christ, there's a lot of people like we get on this Christian nationalist and stuff like that, that subject. And the problem is, is just like you see there, they're wanting angels to come and rescue them.
Well, because angels haven't come to rescue us, men have picked up the sword to try and rescue themselves. And we see this all throughout church history. We see this stuff starting to kick back up. When in reality, the sword is the word of God.
And so if you want to see nations want to Christ, you have to get out there and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. You want to see people saved, preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. And that is the only way true revival is going to come.
Doing things in death, burial, and resurrection.
Go ahead.
I was going to say, instead of taking matters in our own hands, doing what we think is right, doing what is right in our own mind, in our own thinking, it's the power of God and the salvation through the gospel.
That's the weapon.
That's how the world is conquered.
Through the message of Jesus Christ.
What he has done for us. And that's exactly what those kids need. They need to hear the message of Jesus Christ. I truly believe that as one is throwing the cake, their heart can be changed.
Look at the man on the cross.
The thing on the cross was changed on the cross. You know, as he was blaspheming his name, something happened as he was.
I mean, you think about that when he was on the cross, he was thinking about who Jesus was. He was thinking about the miracles that he performed. He was thinking about that. He hadn't done any sin. And then it was like the Holy Spirit went boom.
And he went like, oh, snap. He is God. I am a thief. I don't deserve this. Or I, you know, Christ doesn't deserve it. I deserve this.
Ephesians chapter two, verse four, but God made us alive. Even when we were dead in our sins and sin and trespasses by the grace, by grace, you have been saved. Right?
So to which of the angels did he ever say, you are my son. Today, I begotten you. You know, it's amazing that the Holy Spirit granted life to that thief.
Yes.
Because in Matthew, he was dogging him. And then in the other gospels, he's dogging him. But then he asked for him to remember him.
And I would argue, I think I can make an argument. And I was explaining this to Jeremiah Nortier, the apologetic dog, that I believe that those thieves for Gentiles, because you did not crucify Jews.
Because you would bring a curse on the ground.
And so that was against.
Yeah, it was against the Judaism of the time. They wouldn't allow it. They wouldn't have allowed it. Like you said.
Only Jesus. They were like, crucify him.
Well, wasn't Barnabas a Jew, though? And they were going to crucify him.
Well, they didn't say crucify Barnabas.
You mean Barabbas?
Barabbas.
Yeah, Barabbas. Yeah.
And because I do remember when they were saying there's a tradition. That's what Pilate said, that there was a tradition that we would normally. But it didn't say that they were going to crucify him, like you said, Jeff.
It's just that there's a tradition that we're going to release one to you. And he was trying to. Yeah, I was in when he knew he was innocent and tried to release him.
I mean, you got to think of the law code concerning Jerusalem, right? Anyone who hangs on a tree is accursed of God.
But you could not let them hang overnight.
Right. Yeah.
And so would the Jews allow for them to have another Jew hanging overnight in Jerusalem? I think there would have been an upward.
Because it's right before the Passover.
I mean, it's going against their law, man.
Do you think Barabbas was a zealot?
For sure.
Because it says he was a murderous insurrectionist.
He had the sect of the zealots at that time.
I would say he was an unrighteous zealot. Would that make sense? I don't think that he was for good.
We're all unrighteous zealots.
He was good in his own mind.
We're all unrighteous zealots, brother.
He was good.
I mean, no, I'm saying that I don't think it was for righteousness sake. I think that he was going against the grain. Just simply because he didn't like their power or whatever. Not for righteousness sake, thinking that they were just too religious and doing something wrong.
I think he was just going against the grain just because he was a rebel. Just my opinion, total conjecture.
For sure, for sure. So, yeah, everything's going good at the church. We have another inspection tomorrow. So, we had an inspection. So, this is a codes inspection. We had one Thursday and they made a list of some things I needed to get done.
So, I spent Thursday evening and Friday evening getting all that done. We have an inspection meeting with the codes department tomorrow at 10 o 'clock. And so, if all goes well, which I don't see any reason why it won't.
I think we got it nailed down now. If all goes well, our first Lord's Day service will be the 29th. So, we plan on having a Christmas Eve service there this Tuesday. And then throughout the week and the evenings, me and Pastor Cal are going to be moving some stuff.
And then Saturday the 28th, we'll make sure we move everything from the current church building into the new church building. And have our first service there the 29th. And we're changing our live stream a little bit because we've been getting a lot of kickback because of the music.
And so, we're only going to be live streaming the preaching service. And it will be going off of this stream yard that I have. And so, the live stream will run off of the church's YouTube channel, the church's Facebook page, and probably my personal Facebook page to kind of get more eyeballs on it.
Speaking of more eyeballs, more eyeballs on it. So, and I think we're going to be talking about this too, we're trying to figure out, maybe going back to the old platform with Open Air Theology, just to get more people to see.
There's Melissa.
Hey.
We miss you, Melissa.
Hey, Melissa.
Just our favorite dispy. Just to get more people. You guys, we have a conference coming up and we need to sell some tickets. And we need people to... It's only $100 in Tullahoma, Tullahoma, Tullahome, Tennessee.
Tullahome.
Can't do it. I can't say it. I might as well say Kofie's name. Kofie abadoobadoo. He said, Kofie adaboon. Kofie adaboon. I can say that, but I can't say Tullahoma.
You just did it.
Good job.
I did?
Okay.
Well, see there you go.
It's not Tullahoma.
Tullahoma.
This guy right here, he's a nut job.
Oh my goodness.
Has he been to the cigar bar with you guys out there?
He's come twice.
He was coming this past Friday and he shows up with his brother-in-law. Had a really good time.
That's awesome.
Rub it in, Jeff.
Well, you know
You were there?
You were there, Red?
I was on the road, brother.
He's got a job, right?
Got to work and feed my family.
Are you going to be there the next Friday night cigar lounge night?
No.
Probably not.
But he will be out preaching that Saturday.
Wait a minute.
Stop for a second. You realize I'm coming. I'm going to be in Tullahoma, Tennessee.
You realize I have to do what my employers say or I lose my job, right?
You are looking a little bit sick that day.
No, I'm not. I'm not because I have a week-long trip that I have to go up to Canada and back. So it's not like, okay, I can get sick on Friday, you know what I'm saying? And just lay out of work because I'm still driving in the truck.
You have to have like a major illness.
Where have you been, Melissa?
Jeff's been so busy with the church that he hasn't been able to come on the show very often. So it's been Brayden and I and Red and Brayden and I. And what's his name?
Jeremiah.
Jeremiah and Andrew Rappaport. And we've not seen Jeff or Melissa. So what's up?
Where have you been?
And the question is, have you been staying out of trouble?
I'm going to tell you right now, she hadn't.
No, she's a troublemaker.
She is.
She got them problems. She's sick mostly.
Sick mostly.
She's got all the attributes of a Reformed Baptist, just with that dyspnea thing going on there.
You know, I'm so grateful that God can draw a straight line with crooked sticks.
So I'm going to try to.
By the way, I think it's dying.
What is? Oh, yeah.
Another 10, 15 years.
Out of there.
It's gone.
It was a 200 year fad. That was about it.
I mean, once you get to the point to where, you know, like that, that, you know, Israel became a nation in 1948. Like once you get so many years past that, it's hard to to make the connection.
What was you saying, Red?
I'm going to try to. I'm going to try to get another bid, though, so that that I maybe I can get back on a Monday through Friday gig because whenever I first started going to the Cigar Lounge with Jeff and all the guys from church, I had a Monday through Friday gig and I would get back on Friday evening and make it over to the Cigar Lounge right when they were kicking it off at 6 p .m.
So that would be that would be ideal. But right now, please do. Please do.
You are going to be there Saturday when we go do evangelism.
Absolutely. Like I said last week, we can go to the Cigar Lounge on Saturday. Yes, yes.
Again.
Y 'all can go again. Jeff loves smoking cigars.
But I don't know if you knew this, but in January on six, I see. If you were there Friday, I would buy cigars on Friday. But since you're gone on Friday, it's your I think the when the rule, Jeff, that Red buys cigars on Saturday.
He's going to buy cigars.
No, I'm going to beat you in a foot race and you're going to owe me a cigar anyway. This fat boy is going to tear you up on the track, son.
You better put on a wallet, bro.
And Jeff better be pushing you. Look, I'm going to beat you in the foot race and then and then Jeff is going to put you.
In an arm bar. Both is it going to happen? We've got arm wrestle too, Red. I'll buy you a cigar and you beat me in arm wrestling. After I beat you in the foot race.
Got a foot race?
Will you run?
I know you haven't ran in a long time. Bro, I know you.
I have absolutely zero interest in running.
Have you seen the new videos of butt racing where you sit on down with your butt? You kind of sit across the floor.
I was going to need some clarification on that.
I've seen a video that has these two guys scooting on their butt racing to the other end and then their wives would sit down and race back to the other end. What the heck am I watching?
I don't have any time on my hands.
That is a stretch from from the MMA.
Look, man, I'm getting really old. I'm getting really old. I can't do MMA no more. So I'm trying to figure it out.
Okay, I mean, you know what? We're going to do butt racing in 20 years. We're all going to be betting each other in chess. You're going to be with the Lord.
You might have got one foot in the door, brother. Hey, what happened to your beard, man? Did your wife shake you? What in the world happened to your beard, brother?
There was a problem.
He's trying to look like Brayden.
There was a problem with my beard. So it's in transition.
You look like Brayden's dad.
It's in transition.
Trans, you're a trans, you're, you're, you're, you're transgender now, is that what you said?
The beard is transbearding.
Oh, transbearding, oh, that sounds gay.
Oh my gosh. It will, by the time I get there and set, it will be, it will be better. Just, it was detrimentally, I needed to fix it. So, so I started to trim it and I kind of messed it up and I was like, dang it.
So I just went and started over.
Live beard, it has a, is it live beard? One of them has a trimmer where it has like guards. And so my beard starts getting out there and I need to do it again. I can just brush it down and it'll take like all the curve out of it and make it straight.
You should have called me. You should have called me. I could have, you don't ever shave your beard, man. Intentionally.
I'm sorry.
I might need you to trim up my beard, Red, but I don't have time on Sundays. But you know what, seriously, we can do it another day.
When I, when I go to the barber and everything, nobody knows how to do a beard.
You go to a barber?
I don't do my own hair.
I do.
You do hair, you are a barber.
Red cuts hair at the church.
I know, see, we don't, you know what, move to Texas.
You should have, you should have, you should have called me.
If it's getting, if it's getting long and it's getting curled. So I use a, I use a blow dryer that has a comb on the end of it because mine gets really, I look like one, you know, like the old Greek statues and the beard is all like.
But it looks, it looks good because it's sculpted that way. Mine, mine has this big wave right down, right there.
That's what mine is doing.
And I just take this, so you wash it and then dry it with a towel and then take you a, like a, a blow dryer and with a comb attachment and comb through it and straighten it out a bit.
I, I'm just going to say it right now, Red. I feel a little gay having this hairstyle, this conversation on the show.
You look gay. You look gay.
You're sitting here. Let's take a little right here and put a blow dry it.
And that looked really natural.
When we say you have a nice, a nice red beard, right?
What do you do for gray beard?
You let it stay gray. It's your crown of glory, man.
I know you better believe it.
Oh, look at Melissa.
Guys, I just got a message from my phone. It said, it said time for your bedtime.
That's an old man stuff right there.
Take your geritol. Get the sacks. Open air geology.
Hey, Anthony, you get that Bible yet, bruh? I'm going to be expecting you to Phil. Go kick a midget.
Hunt and kick one.
Did you make him a Bible, Jeff?
I gave him one of my old ones. Nice one. I haven't even showed it to him. I just sent it to him.
Anthony texted me and told me that you sent him one. And I was like, and you didn't even have to kick a midget. And he was like, I'm doing it anyway.
See, you're giving one to him. And you made me pay double price. You're welcome, Anthony.
Tell the truth.
He said, tell the truth, Tom.
No, he gives me a good deal.
I kick, I try to take care of my people. I'm not trying to give him.
And I will say this, that I am the only guy that has to tell a style on my Bibles on the Jeffrey. It's a retired stamp.
No, no.
I have the original, the number one, the first.
The first and the second.
First and the second, yeah.
So you see my first battle scar? What'd you do? So we were taking communion today. And my three-year-old sitting next to me. And I've got my wand in my hand, the Lord's blood. And she hits my hand and the wand just goes right on top of my Bible.
And it blessed it.
It blessed it. It's been sprinkled. It's been sprinkled like the mercy seat.
So the blue one, the blue one I put in my bag and it has like a scar from where the pin was. And so this one, I'm like.
So the bag I use, I use one of these. My wife makes them. It's just like a slip case.
So like you just, again, and it matches my Bible too. So all I've put in it is the Bible.
Hey, post what Melissa just posted. If I ever get a chance to visit y 'all, I get cigars, a beard trim, a JMAC Bible.
Oh, everybody.
Absolutely. I got you on the beard trim, Melissa.
At least, at least, at least that mustache of yours.
We can cut some from the top and put it on there for you, okay?
There we go.
Get a clip on beard. I want to get a clip on mullet.
Hey, we can make that happen, brother.
We can do it.
I would love to get a clip on mullet.
You and TJ will be twins.
I'm telling you. Like if I wasn't losing my hair, I'd have a mullet. Like I'm just throwing it out there.
You ain't got to have much business in the front, man. All you need is the party in the back.
I know. Well, I might lose my pastorate if I do. Like that seems to be a qualification.
Well, if we trim your beard, we can take some and put it on Tom. That way you'll have where he's not gay anymore.
It'd be like that black dude that you're talking, I'm not gay no more.
When I come to a conference, I'm going to be, I'll have a full beard.
I'm not gay. No more.
Braden will still be gay because I don't think his is going to grow over time.
No, it's probably.
It's getting full.
It's getting.
Some people just don't grow long. They just kind of like grow around and get thick.
It's the serpent seed.
The serpent seeds, they just don't grow beards, man.
My hair grows long versus.
You got the Calvin straight.
I mean, I mean, for most of y 'all, I'm sure y 'all remember back when my beard was like down in here.
How long did that take to get it down to my belly button?
I don't know, man. I was growing it for, I think, four or five years, but not about four, not four years, but I trimmed it all the time.
Did you?
But because I trimmed it, it grew really fast.
Well, it's like trimming a rose bush. If you don't, if you don't trim it, it's just like your hair. Women don't trim their hair. You get split ends and all kinds of naps and mats and stuff like that. It doesn't do good.
Did he say the same?
You need to repent as you already saw it.
Oh, that was funny, Melissa. But no, it's like, that's what I tell people that I trim their beard. I tell them, if you don't trim it and keep it manicured, it won't grow and it won't look right.
Do you use any oil on yours?
I use an oil-based balm. I don't really like the straight oils, but the oil-based balms, the thing I don't like about it is the longer it gets, like on the light colored shirts, it leaves an oil ring on your shirts and stuff.
I never have that problem. You're using too much oil. So I use oil and I use beer butter. And I also have a, it's basically, it looks like a stick of deodorant, but it's small and it's wax, mustache wax.
And so sometimes depending on, I'll kind of rub it down depending on how my hair's done.
I never saw one of those before Jeff showed me. That little stick that looks like deodorant is pretty cool. And you get your stuff from Live Bearded, right?
I have been, yeah. Just because they're more sufficient. I've tried to get stuff from other people. There's a couple of reform guys I try to get stuff from. It just takes freaking forever to get your product.
Anthony said whenever he gets that Bible and strokes out from joy, Jeff, you can preach his funeral.
From that Bible.
Hey, man.
Hey, Anthony, I was listening to you preach, bruh. Like you had the whole organ and everything going behind you.
He had that cadence that, come on down to the Lord's house and.
Get your praise and worship on.
You're going to have to teach me how to do that, bruh.
That's your style, man.
I don't do any of that. I don't preach like that. I don't think I can have it in my voice, man.
I don't know.
I don't do that either. I mean, when I get fired up, I just, yeah.
Jeff gets animated, but he's not really monotone. I think he's dynamic in his preaching. He gets animated, but like I said.
So like preaching should never be this, nor should it be this, this, nor this.
It should be.
Kind of like a heartbeat, right? Almost like a heartbeat.
Yeah, that's what it should be, right? So you should be able to preach like in your normal voice. You should get low and then you should be able to get excited. It should never just be like, I love Jeff Durbin, but it's just kind of like one.
Yeah. Like, it's just always that high yell scream that he does. Like he speaks real loud and it's like that the whole time he's preaching.
Well, like Jonathan Edwards was said to be pretty monotone.
And I don't like it monotone. I like it low. Like, I don't like the way MacArthur preaches now, but again, he's old. So I give him a pass. You listen to MacArthur in the seventies and eighties. Oh, that was a fireball.
Yeah, he was for sure. I like H .P. Charles preaching.
I like H .P.
Charles. Yeah.
I think, I think he does really, really good.
But, but he has that, that, that soulfulness to him too. Like you can get that organ going behind him.
Oh yeah.
His worth is fun to listen to. His worth is, is, is dynamic.
He's dynamic.
He's got a great person. He's got a good booming voice too.
He's got a really deep voice, man.
Whenever I'm preaching on the streets, because I have not, I've yet to preach behind a pool.
Pit.
I just, I talk to people like I do anybody else. I just talk to the community where we're at.
When you're ready to preach behind the pool pit, you just got to talk to me, brother.
That's what I'm planning on doing. I'm thinking about chucking the nose band, just going straight preacher, just going straight preacher on y 'all.
I know somebody with a pool pit. That's a nice pool pit, son.
Hey, so I don't know if it's too early right now. You still plan on doing something in the, in the summer, Jeff?
Yeah, we're going to be, um, so our church has, uh, so, so our church, the people in our church has reached out to me about having a conferences put on by our church and not the podcast. I mean, for the most part, the church has been the one that's volunteer has been doing all the work and stuff like that.
And so they want one that represents the church and, uh, and, and it'll be taking place in the month of July, I do believe. And we'll be advertising for it soon. And it will be solely based on the gospel.
It'll be just a two day conference and, um, tickets will be $50. And if you can't afford the $50 message me and I'll pay for it for you.
That sounds good.
I can't wait to get back out and do some street preaching, man.
Well, we're, we're going for sure. Third, third, uh, third week in January.
So we'll get straightened out and we're going to be hitting the streets, man.
I know you guys are gonna be there before me.
So we're going to be hitting the trailer park first.
Let's do it.
And we're going to be hitting everything. We'll probably do some, uh, I really want to get some, um, some of those signs about praying for people like a prayer station. And just, I think if we just set it up right there in front of the church, yeah, it's so much traffic.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
And we plan on, um, like once it gets warmer, we plan on getting the grill out, cooking some hot dogs and hamburgers and having free food for people in the neighborhood.
Doing some evangelism that way as well.
We're about to tear, uh, shake up some things.
Thank you, Melissa.
That is, well, she's trying to make up for that saying what she said earlier.
I believe her. I believe her.
I've been really thinking about doing what you did, Tom, uh, this past weekend going out and caroling.
I'd love to do that, man.
I think that's something we need to really plan for next year.
Well, we've been talking about too, just in our, in our regular evangelism, getting out there and just all having her singing and, uh, singing songs and hymns and spiritual songs.
Oh, that's awesome, man. Shoot, man, go to that.
What was the name of that coffee shop? Shop. It was like a Celtic place and Celtic cup. Go over there and, and, and start doing a, a, a sea shanty.
Mm.
Thank you, Lord.
He said, we're going to be doing one this coming up. Lord's day.
Next.
Lord was stomping on that wood floor, son.
Oh boy.
That sounds so good in that new sanctuary.
Oh man. I'm probably going to cry.
People stomping on that wood floor and beating on the pews.
Is that a reformed Baptist church?
Hey, it'll be enough to make a Baptist want to do a Pentecostal. Twirl, son. Jeff can't twirl though. He'll, he'll fall down.
I spun around one day making fun of him about Phil.
So Orthodox MacArthur, just, but Caroline is a great outreach, especially the shut in fellow members.
It is.
We had, we actually went to one of the elders house that was lived close by our neighborhood. But then there was a member of our church that, you know, I knew he hadn't been at church for a while and he had an eye infection.
We went over there and, and just totally lifted his spirit. I mean, you think about it when the members of your church go over to another member who's sick, hasn't been able to come and you ring the doorbell and you're singing joy to the world and it just, it just touched his heart.
So yeah, absolutely. And not only that, it's just, it's, it's a confidence builder in your membership for people who think that, you know, good at getting out there and sharing the gospel is a hard thing to do.
It's, it's a good icebreaker to just go out there and say, you know what, this really.
Isn't that bad.
Once you get going, you can, you can do this. Everybody can do this. God will equip you to do that.
I'll tell you what, like, I don't think it's a salvation issue, but I guarantee you this. Everyone who does not get out there and witness the gospel in some fashion, it doesn't have to be the way that we do it, but in some fashion, when you stand before God, that's going to be one of the things you wish you can go back and do.
You're going to wish that you went out there and proclaim the gospel.
Like when you go to, like, we were talking about this today and past Sundays in Sunday school and, and through the preaching of the word, Christ being, being made much of and being taught and being learned in the way that God has prescribed through his word.
And, and through the other means of grace, like catechisms and, and confessions and creeds to me, whenever, whenever you learn who Christ is, what God has done and what the Holy Spirit is doing that, I mean, that just fills me with confidence and with joy to know that whenever I go out into the streets or whenever I have one-on-one evangelistic conversations, or if we go out and, and sing hymns and, and, and songs and spiritual songs that Christ own are coming to him.
You know, Jesus says all that the father has given to me will come to me.
We have that promise. Why wouldn't we want to go out?
Just not, you know, we were talking about too. And, and, and it, it has been a thing of mine to say, even if none, and yes, God is glorifying the preaching of the gospel period, but we can't make that an excuse to, to think that he's not going to accomplish what he set out to do.
And, and like Jeff and I were talking the other day, we should be going out, sharing the gospel with the expectation that he's going to save his people through the work of his labors. He said that the harvest is white.
It's right. It's, it's right for the picture, for the picture. And Jesus, Lord, my mouth. I'm not drunk guys. Just saying, just saying.
It's that beer. It's a gay beer.
It was not long ago.
He proved that he proved what he was saying to his disciples in, in John chapter four, because the woman brings the whole city of Samaria back out to him and the, and the entire city is saved when they come and they see, and they hear for themselves.
Most, most street preachers today, or most people think that we have the ministry of, of Isaiah and Jeremiah, but we don't.
He's told us to go out and make disciples. He didn't tell us, he didn't tell the disciples to go and preach and, and, and, but no one's going to listen. Like, that's not what he said to his disciples.
He says, go and make disciples of all nations. The devil has been bound because of the work of Christ on that. His life, death, and resurrection. He can no longer deceive the nations. We're called. Therefore, you and I should go out there with the intentions of making disciples.
And my whole point has been, and again, I do think that we should go to, to, to large crowds every once in a while, but if you really and truly want to see the fruit, you need to do some local evangelism around your church.
And God, and you will see, because I mean, like you can be traveling the world in evangelism and people are getting saved and you won't know, you won't see any fruit or you won't see any of that until you die.
I've been very intentional praying that God will let me see the fruit while I'm alive. And by God's grace, you can ask Red, he has been allowing me to see these things.
I'm a, I'm a piece of that fruit.
I mean, yeah, that's all right. You're an apple.
I'm a, I'm a pair, get it right.
What, one of the things I was saying when you were saying that we're not Isaiah, we're not Jeremiah and stuff like that, but not only that, not only do we have the authority and the, and the mission and our marching orders, but we have the spirit of God in us, the power of the gospel in us.
God is using us as an instrument, not about our ability to sell, make a sales pitch or anything. All we got to do is tell them and God will do the work. And like you said, Jeff, we're going to see fruit if we're doing it locally, because you're going to see people coming to your church.
You're going to be see people, you see people growing in Christ. You're going to come alongside that person and, and help them. Now, what does it look like now that God has adopted you and declared you righteous?
How do you live a life pleasing unto Christ? And what an encouragement that is to the people who share the gospel.
That should encourage, that should, what Jeff has said, what he preached today should drive Christians out into the streets, should drive Christians to do one-on-one evangelism with whoever they meet, you know, because we have the truth, because we know that God's word.
Doesn't return void. That's right.
He accomplishes all that he pleases in the heavens and on the earth.
Yeah. And I just want to take part, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to, I don't want to say it in a boastful way. Like I don't want to, if God's moving in the situation, I want to take, I want to take part.
I want to be invested in it.
And I know the one ministry that God is moving in and it's saving sinners.
I know this because he sent his son to die for sinners. This is a trustworthy saying, Paul said, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners.
Right. This is something that he's actively doing and he does it through the preaching of the gospel. And I know the gospel, the gospel is the power of God and salvation. We have it on our lips. He pre, he pre, he, he, he, he purposed to save a people.
So he chose a people, he sent his son to live and die for them. And the Holy Spirit applies that purpose to the preaching of the gospel. And I want to be a part of it, man.
And in our reformed circles, we believe that the Holy Spirit is still raising people from the dead, son.
You can't believe it, amen. You know, what's encouraging too, is that I know the two evangelists that mainly go out and, and, and we had talked about this, about that. There's probably less than five people that go out, you know, out of the local church that, that goes out and evangelize.
And I know you two are that 5 when you go out. But a friend of mine told me this past week, he said, he said, little as much when God is in it, you know, and it's huge, man. I mean, God will do great things with just a little bit of faithfulness.
And everybody watching.
So yeah, same thing when we go out.
Gideon's army is a, is a Testament.
He whittled, he whittles the army down so that nobody could say it was, it was because of them. Yeah.
You got too many people, too many people. Yeah.
I love, I love the opposition. That's why I'm going to, I'm going to be a fish out of water, getting behind a pulpit because I look forward to the opposition and, and to being hated and, and to being scoffed and mocked at because I know God is working.
Well, if you have too many while you're in the pulpit, I'll throw something at you.
I'm down.
When I, when I went out to, cause I'm, I'm the same way with, with you. I'm used to going out on the streets where nobody's paying attention to me. Eyes aren't on me, you know, and stuff like that. And then if they are, they'll come up.
Matter of fact, at the, at the park this past week, a guy came right up to my face. I have a video of it. Matter of fact, it's on Facebook. It just wouldn't get out of my face. And some big dude about your size came over and scared him off.
It was kind of funny, but it was so funny because I was.
Jeff is my bodyguard.
Yeah, of course.
And you're faster. Anyway, you can outrun them when they need to run.
Yeah, that's right.
If I'm running a lot bigger than me, but as reds under shepherd, I, you know, no one's going to mess with red while I'm around.
That's fine.
I'm running. If I'm running, you better take off running to. Whatever is chasing me is bigger than me.
If you're, if you're running, yeah, I'm out there.
Cause I'm like you, brother. I'm like you, Tom. I ain't got no business when it comes to, I used to, I used to run eight to 10 miles a day.
Used to.
Right now, all I do is run. Now, now all I do is run my mouth.
That's true.
It is a different animal.
You don't about 10, 15 miles an hour. I'm at miles a day.
Hey, if one of my mouth got you skinny, I'd be a rail. But I still get surprised, man. I'm not going to lie. I still get surprised when we're, when, when Jeff and I were out there preaching and we have vehicles show up or people come over and ask for prayer or desire to have a Bible.
Like you can, you can ask Jeff. The, the, the director of the missions board for the duck river Baptist association. Kay. I didn't know who he was about tackled him before he ever got out of the truck.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, you know, just make a beeline for these folks that are coming over. Just it's, it's a, it's, it's a wonderful encouragement and a blessing to see God moving and bringing people right after. We've prayed for God to do that.
It's amazing.
Like there'll be a time where we'll, we'll be there, you know, two, three hours and I want to stop. And then we'll, we'll pray. And I'm like, God sent somebody screaming, send somebody. I'm like an idiot.
Probably.
So we were out there. We were out there. It was raining and I was like, dude, let's put some speaker. Let's put some bags over the speakers and let's just go at it.
And we got under a tree. We started preaching and God started bringing people over to us.
He was getting ready to pack it up. I was like, man, let's put some bags on these figures that built it, baby. Let's go.
Well, now we got a, we're going to put a 10.
We went to the Alamo and did that at the game. We put a umbrella over the speakers and got wet and we were okay with everything. But at this last Saturday, this lady, young lady, she was from Austin. And after, after preaching the gospel to the crowd, she came up and she was just crying.
And she said, you know, I know that you were preaching to the crowd and just started bawling and saying, but everything you said was right for me. And it was just, I just felt like crying right there.
Just knowing that, I mean, that's the reason if she was the only one that heard it, that was the reason that we went out. It was, it was a blessing. It's so encouraging, especially for people who go out and do this to see something like that.
When you don't see any of it, it can be discouraging. It is discouraging. But when you see fruit, man, it's such a blessing.
It really is cool.
I think that we're, we're definitely seeing some real fruit in our church from the ministry. And I think that Lord is going to do a lot more this coming year. I mean, so, so this year alone, this has really been the biggest year.
Cause like, if I'm honestly, I preached on those streets until like faithfully until red came for nearly four years and saw no fruit. And this last year we've seen fruit and God has used it, using it to grow our church.
Just that, you know, I'm out there preaching my heart out by myself, year after year, screaming, praying, saying people like, I look like, I know I look like.
An idiot.
I'm driving down the road to go to the place to preach, beat my steering wheel.
The people were like, Noah, what is rain? Give us a working definition for rain, Noah.
I mean, I was praying for two things that God would, you know, use me and the salvation of others to grow our church and that God would raise up someone to be there with me. And this year it's happened.
And so this year at our church, we've been able to baptize eight people. Seven of those have been salvations.
And you're a small church.
We're a small church. It's really, I've heard of it. Any kind of reformed congregation. Tell you, because normally we just get people from other churches that, right.
What did you do so terrible to get stuck with me?
I don't know. The thorn in my flesh.
Jeff, God's grace is sufficient, bro.
You know, we do kind of have, like, if you look at the other side of what Jeff said, that we don't have ministries like Isaiah and like the prophets that come before us, we kind of do in an aspect because Jesus tells us we're going to be hated because the world hates.
You.
Right. And the message of the gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing. It's going to be a stench of death for those that hate the gospel. And there's Christians that hate what Jeff just said about the gospel going forward.
And there is unbelievers that hate. But when you look at Ephesians chapter four, evangelists, shepherds, preachers, and teachers do the work of edifying and building up the church. It's to build even straight evangelism or one-on-one evangelism.
When you're talking to other Christians, it's meant to encourage them, to build them up in the faith, to give them confidence and to continue to look to Christ in faith.
Yeah, definitely.
I also would point to the parable of the sower seed in the soils. They only, you know, only one out of the four.
Who was he?
Who was Jesus speaking to?
He was.
Well, he was speaking to the disciples.
And we would be able to apply that in the same way that he was preparing them. That number one, that, hey, when you go out and you share this message, he was basically saying, listen, there's going to be people that are going to receive that gladly.
And then the cares of this world are going to come along and they're going to fall away because it wasn't a genuine faith. There's going to be people who receive it and Satan will come and blind their eyes.
It fell on, those are the people that fell on the rocky ground and stuff like that. But the one good soil that it falls on, the ones that God would just share it, he'll prepare it, he'll grow it, he'll grow that seed.
I think John MacArthur preached the sermon. There was the, and it was called the gospel of the sleep or something like that. Go share the gospel, go to sleep and watch what God does.
That was the one from Mark where he says he goes, he plants seed, he goes, turns to his home and wakes up the next day. It's grown and he doesn't know how it happened.
Yeah. Yeah.
So if you apply Matthew 13, the parable of the sower, right? So you have the four different, really three soils. One by the roadside is not really a soil. So the devil comes immediately and snatches away the ones by the roadside.
And you have the two, one in the rocks and one in the thorns. And both of them for the most part are choked out and driven out because of the word of God.
Right?
So when, when persecution arises, they leave because of the word of God.
Whenever the cares of this world, they're choked out by the word of God. And so this is that pruning process, right? So in John chapter 15, so, so, so in this, he takes some away. So some, he sniffs off and he takes it away.
How does he do so? With the, the sword, right? The word of God is sharper than any double-edged sword and a two-edged sword. And that same knife, them same snips that he removes certain disciples from the vine, he prunes some to grows them in holiness.
And so like one of the things I really hate when people say, well, I don't call myself a Christian. I call myself a disciple. Well, just because many, Jesus had many disciples that fell away.
But no Christian falls away.
Truly in Christ, you will not fall away. But many disciples fall away. And so when it comes time to, you know, we, whenever he calls us to go out and make disciples.
Yeah, Judas was a disciple.
Yeah. Judas was a disciple.
Making the disciples is not necessarily making Christians, God making Christians, but we disciple these, these Christians, right?
Oh, exactly.
Some of these people that we think that are Christians that we have disciple, but that cares of this world and the, you know, the, the word will, will remove them from the vine.
So he has to be diligent.
Jesus tells the Pharisees that cross land and sea to make one proselyte. He says, you make a double son of hell.
Make them twice the son of hell.
In, in, in Matthew chapter 13, verses three and four, it says, and he told many things in parable saying a sower went out to sow and as he sowed some fell on the path. And that's all you hear about the sower.
It's, it's, it's anything to sower. It's, it's, it's basically the instrument that God is using to spread the seeds.
All we are, are the means.
Yes, that's right.
We are the means. And I'll speak about that a little bit. And my message at the conference.
So, so Jeff, Jeff's talking about his favorite, his favorite verses where live verse, he says that he's a donkey of a man that he speaks through a donkey and Jeff feels that way. Right. And today I told him, I said, when you look at it from that perspective, because he was talking about Jesus riding into Jerusalem on the donkey in the, in the, in the triumphant entry.
Right. I told Jeff today, I said, we're that donkey.
He rides along the backs of his donkeys, triumphantly saving those that belong to him. And where that means in which he rides, kind of like, kind of like the saying that Charles Spurgeon had that the word of God is the cherry upon which Jesus rides.
Right. Um, but we're, all we are, are, is, is donkeys. We're a mouthpiece.
I'm going along that same line. I would say that the evangelists are the feet of the church. You know, how beautiful are the feet of those who go out and preach the gospel and everything. And I always make that joke that, you know, some of y 'all have stinky, ugly feet.
You got ugly feet.
You got ugly feet, but how beautiful. They go out and share the gospel.
I mean, you can have corns all over your feet. Like you should have had a pedicure 20 years ago, bro. You go out and share the gospel.
How beautiful.
You need to wear snow boots, man. Get the snow boots on. I cover those things up.
That's, that's good. This, uh, Ben.
I'm not used to people in public preaching God's word.
And then he follows up with this and it's true.
And then those that are really not in the reformed circles. And if you go to someone that's not really Calvinistic reformed circles, or, I mean, I mean, there are some good Armenians that preach the gospel.
I'm not going to throw that out, but, but for the most part, and even jelly, even jellyfish, a lot of these people that do go out, they don't preach the gospel.
And the matter of fact, they wouldn't even use the word. It's just, they, they, they don't preach from those scriptures. It's all about, it's all in their head about, I don't know, you know, believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, but they don't, there's no repentance.
It's a soft gospel. It's easy. Believe ism. Um, it's yeah, it's, um, it's, it's hard to go out there. I mean, there's a general call that, you know, choose you this day who you will serve. I will say that as a Calvinist, I'll say that.
I definitely will say it to, to the church.
But you know, like, like when I'm calling people to, to, to be obedient to God.
Absolutely.
I think we have a right to call. Like, if you tell me you're a Christian and you're not being obedient, I think especially, I mean, I think any Christian should have the right, but especially as a, as a pastor of a church and you're my congregant, I think I have the right to tell you to choose you this day whom you're going to serve.
And, uh, and that's what you see in Joshua. He's speaking to the people of Israel.
And he's, you know, these are supposed to be God's people and you need to choose if you're people of God, you need to choose who you're going to serve. And if you're a Christian, if you tell me that you love Jesus and that you're a follower of Jesus and you're not serving them, brother, you need to choose you this day whom you're going to serve because you could just be Christian and intellect only.
Because Christians bear much fruit when they're being pruned by the father. And if you, and guess what happens to supposed Christians that don't bear fruit?
They get snipped.
That's right. Yeah.
And that's not just in evangelism. That's, that's in every aspect of serving the body.
Yeah, absolutely.
We serve. And Jeff made, made a high emphasis on loving one another today, you know, in his preaching. That's how the world knows that we belong to Christ is our love for one another. And we must love our brothers and sisters.
And that sometimes means calling them to repent and turn and do what the Lord has commanded.
No matter what it is, no matter whether it's evangelism or serving tables or praying or devoting yourself to the teachings of the apostles.
And I think like, if someone became a Christian today, I won't be trying to put them behind a microphone and trying to witness the people. But, but if you say, well, well, could they witness the people?
Yeah, for sure. Like in martial arts, you know, like in martial arts or in boxing or any kind of of a trained sport like that, all you got to do, if you know one move, you can teach someone that.
One move.
All I got to do to train you how to fight is to know one move ahead of you. And I could train you to fight.
And so all, you know, like immediately if someone is saved, they're going to know that the gospel by which they were saved, they're at least going to be able to articulate that. Well, this is what I know.
I broke God's law, but that God has paid my fine by sending his son, Jesus Christ, to live the life I could not live and to take the punishment that I deserve in his death.
That's the gospel message.
Now I wouldn't. It's hard, is it?
I wouldn't put them on a microphone or anything like that. But if someone was to walk up and say something to them, like they should be able to articulate that message. However, if they want to go out with us and hold a sign, I think that that's the first step of being in some kind of a public ministry, right?
Because we have people that were just saved this year that have gone out and hold signs for us. We don't put them behind a microphone or anything like that. They're not ready for that yet. But if someone walked up to them, they could have a conversation.
I think that's a good point. The woman at the well, she didn't know exactly what had happened, but she went back to the village and told, come and meet the man that.
Could this be the Christ?
That yes, could this be the one? And brought him. So, yeah, there's a. And that was just her testimony. Bree, you know what we would actually be able to share?
You know what, man? No, if you're in a dojo and you just signed up to do karate or mixed martial arts, whatever, right? And all you do is ever stand on the wall and watch others do their moves. You're never going to learn anything, right?
You'll never learn anything.
But at the same time, so I think that's what Jeff was getting through, too, is that the people that are going to be doing the proclaiming, we have to handle the word rightly. They have to be the ones that have put in the time and study and being discipled and having somebody come alongside.
And like you had said, going through the moves, let's go out with us. Listen to what we say. Listen to when people have a hard way. Is Jesus God?
What are the verses that we're going back to with them to show them that? Yes, that Jesus had to be God. Otherwise, there is no salvation in anybody. If he's just a mere man, he doesn't qualify to die on the cross and pay the penalty for my sin.
Only God can save, you know, and then the verses that show that he is God, et cetera.
I mean, imagine if all these, if everyone in our church was to attend the Sunday school class that we've had this week concerning Christology. Imagine, just think about how rich their theology would be with their Christology.
We have an elderly couple that's been coming to our church. They've been part of our church for a little over four years now. They've mentioned to me that they've learned more in the last four years than they had in the last 40 years of being under my ministry.
But during this month of Sunday school and Christology, they said every time they've come, they've learned something about Jesus that they've never heard before. They've never known this in all their years, right?
So just think if everyone in our church came and they actually invested the time to sit under this teaching, how sharp they would be if whenever they do encounter a conversation, especially when we're going through Christology, right?
Let's say Saturday morning, you get a knock at your door and it's a Jehovah witness. Well, Jesus is created.
They could say, I know exactly where I'm going. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm going to Hebrews one and Hebrews chapter two. When you preached on this morning, I'm going to show them from Psalm 107 in their own book.
Jesus is God, son.
Yeah, that God pronoun.
I learned that this morning.
But it would be easy to identify. Oh, you're an Arianist. You know, Arianism, right?
Jesus was created.
Oh, that's an ancient heresy. Like you build up to walk out with them, right?
Like just learning theology, like I was talking, like I've had people tell me, just give me Jesus, keep your theology. It's like, my dear friends, do you even know what you're saying? Like theology is two Greek words, right?
That's compound together, theos and logos.
God, word, God's word. Theology is God's word. You can't have Jesus without God's word.
Jesus is the sum of theology.
And Christology, I mean, it's Christos and logos. Both of them represent him.
He is the word. Melissa just said, you don't need to use deep theological words in order to share the gospel. Keep it clear and simple. You know, you're exactly right.
One of the best things about old man Sproul, man, he was such a great theological mind that he could take the most deep theological things and communicate them like in kindergarten language. And at the same time...
All except for baptism.
But that's the thing. If you know rich theology, you can communicate it simple.
But if you don't know rich theology, your communication, your simple ways of communication is gone.
Exactly.
Don't really have it.
So my point is, is that when we go out and share the gospel, we should be able to communicate the gospel to a five-year-old. To, you know, use the language that that five... I mean, we don't need to use propitiation and, you know, these big theological words that he's our expiatory sacrifice for sins.
You know, you're talking over people's heads. Keep it simple. You need a substitute. You need a savior.
You got to understand who you're talking to. Your target audience are people that don't know Christ.
You're going to hit some Christians with those seeds, but that should encourage them, right? But it should be judgment to the non-believer. And it should be music to the person's ears that belongs to Christ.
Right. And what we preach out in the streets is law and gospel. We want to walk people through the law to show them their sin. And we want to give them the gospel to mend that broken heart for the person that comes to Christ with contrition and with sorrow.
A hundred percent.
Sorry, guys.
That's easy to do, even for the infant Christian, because the infant Christian, like Jeff said earlier, the infant Christian is going to know what saved them. They're going to know the gospel. They're going to know that they were an unrighteous, unholy, wretched sinner that needed the grace and the mercy of Jesus Christ shedding his blood on the cross.
They're going to know that. And the most infantile Christian can preach that in the streets or in one-on-one evangelism.
I mean, it's amazing grace. I once was lost, but now I'm found. Revelation five tells us that we overcome by the blood of the lamb. That's the gospel and the word of our testimony.
Like I once was. Now I am because of right. I once was a wretched sinner. Now I have been saved by God's grace because of the mercy of God and sent in Jesus Christ to live the life I could not live, take upon himself the punishment that I deserve.
But the main thing is to articulate that. Well, I would argue you do need theology.
It's just like, you know, like the word propitiation. I think the Bible uses it two, maybe three times at most.
And then you have the real difficult definition of it. I like to dumb it down as much as possible. It's a payment for wrongdoing.
Yeah, right.
And so when, you know.
Satisfaction for sins.
The satisfaction for sins, right? You broke God's law. God has paid your fine. That's the propitiation.
Satisfied the wrath of God.
But in order to know that concept, I had to learn about propitiation.
Sure. Right.
I get that.
And so I think it's really good to fill our minds with these theological concepts and then work through how I can explain this to children.
Whenever I'm doing family worship, my wife, she used to be like, you're saying such big words. I'll be like, listen, if you listen to me, always give them the word. Like I would say propitiation. And I would say that's an appeasement or a payment for the wrath that we deserve that God has provided in us.
It's actually a sacrifice, an appeasing sacrifice.
I don't think there's anything wrong with using big theological terms.
Because they're going to need to know these things, right?
They need to grow in maturity.
We shouldn't hide from using them.
But you should always, it's just like, you know, the incarnate. We're talking about the incarnation today.
That's what I said.
We're talking about the incarnation today. When God became man.
The two, like, you know, so every time I say a big theological word, always bring it down to the child's level.
It's a hypostatic union.
Yeah. Always. Right.
Because I can remember, you know, coming to, to like, you know, listening to Spro, listening to MacArthur and all these guys, and they would say something. Paul's Google. What is that?
I mean, you can dumb it down at one point and say, okay, deity put on flesh.
Why can't I go even further? Like you had just said.
The creator entered creation. The infinite became finite. Like I just over different ways that I can say the same thing. I'm just restating something.
The terms are always defined in the word though. Whenever Paul say in Romans chapter three, verses 21 through 31, Paul explains propitiation in this long, in this discourse. And then he, he, he exposes what he just preached in Romans chapter three and Romans chapter four, he breaks it down and he explains how we're saved by faith.
Just like Abraham would. Right.
I love it.
And like the word righteousness, when you understand the word righteousness, that it means law keeping. That really is a game changer in Romans chapter three. It says, but now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law.
Although the law and the prophets bear witness to it, the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe, for there is no distinction for all of sin to fall short of the glory of God and are justified by his grace as a gift to the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forth or forward as a propitiation by his blood.
He explains and defines that centerpiece propitiation in the, in the, in the, the gracious gift of God in which we are justified through the redeeming blood of Christ through his bloodshed.
Real quick on Melissa's question there.
Which one?
So she says, correct me if I'm wrong, but sanctification will give you an archaeology. And my initial thought on that would be just the opposite. That your theology will deepen your sanctification. It is, but it is by the word of God, the more we.
I think both can be true.
So here, here's on one end, this, and you could go to the flip side. My thinking is this, the more we learn about who God is, the better understanding we understand that we aren't like him. What the, the, the higher view of God that we have by, by understanding who he is, by our theology, by learning his attributes, his communicable and his incommunicable attributes.
When we get to understand those things, then I get the view might have a better view of myself and how high God is in the lower view of.
Man.
So that wouldn't that be in the sanctifying work of the Holy spirit to the washing of the word of.
Bro.
I was looking at the verse. It says, husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her. So speaking of Christ, loving the church, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word.
So yeah.
So in the sense that you're speaking about, it's that growing in sanctification through the washing of the word.
Good.
They're learning.
They're learning theology, learning about God and Christ, but positionally,.
What you were referring to read is that he has positionally sanctified us, set us apart unto holiness, enabling Romans chapter three.
That's, that would be positionally, but like what I was just saying to second, it will be more like Romans 12 or, or what he would, what, what Jeff was saying about being sanctified, the Holy spirit sanctifies us through the washing of the word.
And I would say that this is, has to do with you being a part of a local church, submitting to the, the, the teachings of the apostles.
So you're under, you're under the word. So primarily this is what it's talking about. The means of grace, you're under the word of God. Secondarily, you, with your Bible reading, I don't want to take anything away from that, but you, with your Bible reading, it is secondary to having someone who, who knows the Bible well and can articulate and interpretate the Bible to you.
The way that, the way that Jeff puts it to the church is it's one thing to know the words, to know the words. It's another thing to know why they're written.
To know why. The words, right. The context.
The context and rightly having somebody explain the text to you to rightly divide the works. We were talking about that. I think at the last show, when schools in Texas are allowing the word of God to be brought back into the, to the public schools and we brought up the fact, okay, well, yeah, but who's going to be teaching it?
You know, who's going to be teaching this word? I'm great that you're bringing the word of God back in there. But if you don't have a teacher that's accurately handling God's word and teaching it rightly, what it says after he reads the text and digs into the text and explains the text and how to apply the text, you're in deep trouble then.
I mean, a qualified person like Jeff teaching.
Now, if you go from the other end of this, so she says, correct me if I'm wrong, but sanctification will deepen your theology.
All right.
So, so we looked at it from one end, right. How through learning theology, God is sanctifying us.
Now, when we get to that position of him sanctifying us, we want to continue to learn that theology, right. And so in our sanctification, because we're starting now, we cannot live without the word of God.
I'm not going to miss this Lord's day. I'm not going to miss my time with God and Bible and prayer and stuff like that. And so it's both end, right. So God is strengthening us. So he's pruning us to bear much fruit.
And a part of that fruit bearing is that we want to be pruned by the vinedresser. We want to be disciplined by the vinedresser because we want to live holy lives to God. And so, and that pushes us, that causes us to want to be sitting under good theology where God can all the more prune us and strengthen our faith and conform us into the image of Jesus Christ, because ultimately that's the goal.
So I love that, Jeff.
I was just thinking about this in Psalm 119. He says, with all my heart, I have sought you. Do not let me stray from your commandments. Your word I have treasured in my heart. It just motivates us to love the law of the Lord, love his word that we can't do without it.
I meditate on it day and night.
From the moment I wake up, the word of God is in my mind. That's what I'm thinking about. I'm just like, it's all over me, man.
That's all.
It consumes me.
Psalm 119, 105, your word is a lamp on my feet and a light into my path. Like that is, that is supposed to be what our eyes are focused upon.
I love Psalm 19 as well. That's an amazing Psalm.
It's kind of like an abridged version of 119.
But it speaks to somebody like me specifically in, let's see. Starting in verse seven, it says, in verse seven, it says, the law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul. The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
Brother, I'm barely a high school graduate.
You barely even graduated high school.
Barely. And all the wisdom, all the treasures of wisdom are summed up in Christ, man.
There's nothing like the word of God.
Well, what did he say about these 12 ordinary men that he chose? There wasn't anything special about them. There wasn't anything. They were hard. They were laborers. Yet they saw these men and they knew that they had been with the Lord.
They knew that they had been with the Lord. So that's, that's, I mean, just know me that I've been with the Lord.
Listen, you want to talk about a testimony? That's a testimony.
And, you know, someone can meet you and say, you know, I don't, I know, I know one thing about him. He's been with the Lord.
That is.
Well, it sounds like Sam Waldron's crunching on a water bottle. What'd you say? What'd you say?
If that can be said about me, I die happy. If that can be said about me, when I die, I would be happy.
I know that you walk with the Lord because scripture pouring out of you, man. I love it. It encourages me. It pushes me. It, it, it rebukes me. And that's, I mean, that's what prayer is for. That's what prayer, our prayer groups are for.
That's what sitting under the word and the preaching and the teaching is for. That's what evangelism is for. It's all those things to encourage us, to, to admonish us, to, to rebuke us and to cause us to continue to, to come to the foot of the cross.
Amen. Yeah.
And that's what the book of Hebrews is about, man. He's, he's encouraging these Christians. He's encouraging Christians to continue to look to Christ.
That's beautiful, man. And when I was, when I was going through it this way, so I forgot that this, that today was a Christmas incarnation Sunday, Christmas Sunday. And so I had already put in a day and a half of study in John 15 to do my fourth message in those few little verses.
Like I've been trying to give everything I can from that, that little section. And I was like, oh crap, I got to do a different sermon. And then I was like, so then the next day I started trying to figure out, what am I going to preach on?
And I was like, Hebrews two, you know, because I've been talking about it a little bit in Sunday school classwork, walking through the incarnation. I mean, walking through the two natures of Christ, you know, he's truly God and truly.
And as I was going through it, I was like, man, I really wished I could preach through Hebrews. But, you know, that was the last book I preached, but that was over two years ago.
And my understanding has grown. My mind has been sanctified in word of God. And I just feel like I understand it much more now.
And so the way he taught in the last three weeks with this Hebrews message today on the purpose of Christmas was, it was awesome. All the way over the last three weeks, bro, into Bible study this morning and Sunday school into the message, into the message.
He taught everything to go.
That is all God's providence in working at and giving his people exactly what they need to hear.
Jeff, I'll tell you, man, there's stuff like that that happens every single week.
Wow.
Every single week.
Manicure. What's going on? Aren't we reformed people?
Did I tell you what? Come to our church for a month. You'd be like this.
Bapti-costals.
I believe you. I believe you.
The director of missions actually called me a Bapti-costal.
He told me he was a free meal Baptist.
He got a free meal that day too, didn't he?
Melissa says celebrating Christmas is, but making fun of that, those people who don't celebrate Christmas because it's, man, I'll tell you what. I love Christmas. I love this time of year. I love thinking about the incarnation.
I love thinking about the cross. And if there's anything that's going to put our minds on Christ, give me more of that. Give me more of that.
Or open up more people to be accessible to it.
I mean, if you just were to go out on any average month or any day of the week, knocking on people's door and singing songs outside their house.
They're like, what in the world's going on? If you do it during the month of December, close to Christmas.
More acceptable to what's taking place.
In the last 50 years, I've not been out and I've not known of any church that I've ever been a part of to go out and carol. That's why I want to do it so bad. You guys, Jeff, I'll sing out there on the streets.
I don't care, man.
I'll build.
I'm telling you, I Googled caroling on Christmas. And the only images that came up like Christmas caroling and the only images that were coming up were ancient. Well, not ancient. Old 1950s, 1960s, 70s.
You don't see it anymore. You just don't. And when we were knocking out on the doors.
We need to make Christmas caroling great again.
Because it is an evangelistic call.
And it's been so encouraging to see you and your church. Go out and do it.
It was worship. It was worship in the public square, in the neighborhoods. What a better testimony than that. Christmas is great, y 'all.
We celebrate the incarnation every Sunday, Jeff.
Every Sunday.
And the resurrection.
I'll tell you what, if you come to our church and I don't mention the incarnation, death, life, death, burial and resurrection, I'll give you a thousand dollars. I'll give you a free PTL Bible custom any way you like it.
If you can show me in my message that I didn't mention those things.
Oh, I'm about to go. I'm about to go looking through some messages, bro.
Go ahead. We do the gospel every week. It doesn't matter.
I need a Johnny Cash now.
You know, I do have an Allen that I might need to get redone. Let's see.
He doesn't read the message Bibles, man.
I don't have it. I don't own a message. My Allen's are, man, I'll tell you what. This LSB that he did, it's just, it has got to be my favorite Bible. This is gorgeous. It is beautiful. Look at the ribbons.
Red, look at that. This is four ribbons of the number one Bible that Jeffrey Rice ever made right here in my hands.
It's a beautiful Bible.
It's standard.
Ain't nothing like those red ribbons though, son.
That is a nice red Bible.
I got some red ribbons in my preaching Bible.
Oh, you sure do. Is that yours? Is that the one that's just like mine?
Mine.
This one right here is the Allen SCR.
Oh, okay.
It's not then.
That's sweet.
But look at that liner.
Is that gold or silver lining?
Silver.
No pages either.
Blue.
Silver and blue.
Oh, it sure is.
And that thing is slick. Every Bible, man. Every Bible you make, dude, is phenomenal.
This one right here, man. I got another block right here.
It's an Allen.
I got another one. So I'm going to have the margins on this one cut off to where I'm going to make it a handy size. So I'll make it smaller.
More of a reader.
Just to carry around.
This Trident Park Voyage is Bible rich.
And so I got this one right here. So this is a 02 NASB. This is the French meal paper. This is the top Bibles ever made.
Is that the judge right there?
No, I don't think it has a nickname. We just call it. I mean, it's the 07. Excuse me, 07. But I plan on sanding the goat off. I'm going to sand the goat off and I'm going to do a Johnny Cash.
How in the world do you even do that, man?
Because I don't have a Johnny Cash Bible.
How in the world do you even do that?
How in the world you don't even have your own Johnny Cash Bible?
I'm fitting to you.
He's just doing that to make me jealous. Like he's wearing that black hat of mine right now.
This was Navy, son.
He's got a black one because I've been trying to get him to make me an all black Johnny Cash hat.
I know.
I'm trying to come up with the money to get a stamp. Where I don't have to. So I want to have a stamp to where it has the Inhot Signa Windchase with the Cairo. It's kind of like have it rounded with the Cairo right in the middle.
So I got $125 to get it made.
Do you have a Cairo stamp?
And I got two Cairo stamps, but I want to get something special just for stamping hats.
Do you have an Alpha and Omega stamp as well?
I got a Cairo Alpha and Omega.
I was thinking about getting you to stamp over this.
So Ben says, and then Georgia says, Jeff, how much would you charge to engrave the word to Talistai on my Bible?
So here's the thing. If you're wanting it right here and the Bible is already bound, I cannot do it. You could get it here as a name. So if it's bound, like I have to open it like this to put it on my stamp machine.
And my stamp machine has arms that stick out. And this right here gets in the way of the arms. And so I cannot. But if it's on the end, I can do it. But if you're wanting it done in the middle, like I did his, I have to do that while I'm, I have to do that before I bind the Bible.
Look at that right there.
Like I can't stamp anything in the center after the Bible's already bound with, with the stamp machine I have, the stamp machine I have is a $2 ,000 stamp machine. Like these things are not cheap at all.
They do have better ones. I'm just a trailer park kid balling on a budget.
Have you ever, have you ever stamped like verses or anything like that on the, on the front of the Bible? Like in the beginning was the word.
I, back in the day I did, and I messed up on some, and I had a football spike them and eat the cost and say a cuss word. So I'm trying not to do anymore. I mean, cause the cover, so, you know, cause normally by the time I'm stamping, I've already done stitched them and everything.
And so I got a lot of time in them. And when I, when I screw them up, for those of you that don't know, I am dyslexic. Okay. And when you stamp, when you put the letters in, you got to put them in upside down and backwards.
Oh my gosh.
Put everything in upside down and backwards. And not to mention I'm dyslexic.
And so by the time he's done with that, he's gone into exit tropia.
I need to make sure the Palestine is right.
It's a stamp. So like, there's been plenty of times I've had.
You should have put that on the back of the back.
For the most part, people purchase a Bible and send it to me, but I do sell once a month. So the Bibles that people purchase and send to me, they pay a deposit and then towards the end, they would pay the finished payment.
And that's what I live on. So that's what, you know, just my gas, that's what puts food on the table, so on and so forth. And then when we make Bibles to sell, that pays my rent, my car bill, my lights, water, and everything like that.
So all you listeners get your PTO Bible.
Definitely.
So I'm hoping it would be really, really great to eventually get out of rebinding as a full-time job and be able to focus more on the pastorate.
Be praying for that. To that end.
Be praying for that. Because I'm working 45, 50 hours a week in the rebinding and then having to, from eight o 'clock to sometimes one o 'clock in the morning, study for summer preparations. I'm doing that five nights a week.
So I got a lot of hours that I'm working and just wore out all the time.
Those of you who don't know, Jeff and me, Brad, Braden, we talk every night. And every time that Jeff, we call Jeff during the day, he's in his office. And I'm talking working office, doing rebinds. He doesn't stop working.
And then he's got a little bit of time with his family. And then he's studying every night.
He's a hard worker, man.
So when that In his free time, he's watching butt races.
Yes, that's right. But I was gonna say, I was gonna say that when that day comes that you do do full-time ministry and stop the rebinding and you're just doing it for fun, the value of these things just double because there won't be any more PTL Bibles.
Yeah, there won't be any more.
I can only imagine because, I mean, the knowledge Brother Jeff has, Pastor Jeff has, to his heart for the lost, his heart for proclaiming and expositing the word of God and teaching others to become like him.
I wanna imitate this brother. You know, I'm not saying, I'm not trying to put you on a pedestal. I'm saying, I'm saying that everybody sees that.
Yeah, but I gotta put, I gotta put a hashtag on me into that.
No ditty, no ditty, no ditty.
No, like, this brother gives his life up.
For the work of the ministry to exalt Christ, to make him known. Yeah, I don't wanna be like that. He's somebody like, when Paul says, imitate me as I imitate Christ, that's what I'm saying, right? This brother, I can only imagine if he was full-time and able to focus completely on preaching the word, evangelism, discipleship amongst the congregation, dude, he'd be the Terminator.
We would definitely see some revival taking place up in here.
Hey, let's do it. Y 'all be praying out there too, that our other pastor Kyle would get to where he can do full-time ministry as well.
I mean, if y 'all really wanna pray for our church, there's things that, you know, like in, we need, so Red is going to be our first ordained evangelist. We believe that evangelist is an office of the church, right?
And we wanna, and Red has, again, I do the work of an evangelist, Red is an evangelist. I am not what Red is concerning evangelism. I do it, I go out and do it. I'm not afraid to do it and I enjoy doing it, but I recognize, I just recognize other people's gifts and I'm not afraid of other people's gifts.
I like being around preachers that can preach better than me and I'm not jealous of them because I think that they can rub off on me, right? But they can make me better preachers and Red can make me a better evangelist.
But certain things that we do need, we need God to send men who are strong because our church does need another elder. We need someone that if my body falls over dead, that can take my place, right? We, and so be praying for our church that God will raise up men who are strong in the word and who are willing to get out and do the work.
Yeah, that's key right there. A lot of times we see a lot of churches equip men and they have a staff full of men who are equipped to be pastors and they're staying in that one church. Get out of there and go plan a church for crying out loud.
Get out of there.
That or young men that they see potential and they're sending them off to seminaries that are nowhere around the church that they were grown in, right? It says to take what, you know, Paul tells Timothy to take what I gave to you and give it to other faithful men and raise them up and plant churches and keep doing it.
That's great folks. I think that's the whole prescription of how to grow, how God grows his church.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Well, good show.
Hey, so two hours in, in Tallahoma, Tennessee, right? Did I say it? Tallahoma, Tennessee, February 20th through 22nd. Did I say it right?
So the 20th through the 22nd will be the conference, the war conference dealing with basically sanctification, the spirit versus the flesh. It's kind of like this. So when you're justified, you're positionally right before God.
And so it's like, well, now what, how do I get from A to B? Because the Bible says that he conforms us to the image of Jesus Christ. How does this conformity take place? It's through sanctification. And we think it's a very important topic.
And so it's war because you, because as your spirit man wants to submit to the word of God, you also have to deal with this flesh that's attached to you that wants nothing to do with it. So there's this battle that takes place, which is why we need the pruning of the father.
And that's what we're going to be talking about at this conference. It begins on the 20th and it lasts to the 22nd. There is a pre-conference on the 20th, I mean, on the 19th, where we're going to be speaking on evangelism.
We're actually going to be giving, like walking you through why you should evangelize, when, what it looks like and what to expect and all that. It's going to be really good. A lot of good fellowship time.
We're going to be afterwards. We're going to be hanging out at different restaurants, different cigar shops, going back to the different homes and just really having a good time talking theology. And it's just going to be a wonderful time.
So I'll guarantee you this. If you come to this conference and you don't learn something while having fun.
It's a blast.
I'll give you your money back.
Tell a homie about the Open Air Theology Conference.
Yeah. Tell a homie about the Open Air Theology Conference in Tallahoma.
Yeah, man.
It's going to be good. And then also, my church, so not the podcast, my church will be having a conference in July. I don't have the exact dates yet. And it'll be focused on the gospel. Like this is going to be something that's going to be really, really good.
So we'll probably be walking through all the aspects of the gospel that you can think of.
And brothers and sisters out there in YouTube, in the YouTube interwebs, if you're looking for a pre-conference on evangelism, we're going to be having four preachers, Jeff, Brayden, Tom and myself. We're going to be having, we're going to be discussing and preaching about evangelism.
We're going to have an evangelism bootcamp and we're going to go out and do evangelism locally in Tallahoma. So we're going to go out and we're going to be telling homies about Christ.
We really appreciate you, Melissa.
Yeah. I'm glad you feel that way.
1 .03 AM. She's in it to win it.
Georgia and everybody else who tuned in tonight. We really appreciate you guys.
We really appreciate all of you. There's really no way to express the appreciation we have for everyone that watches. It doesn't go unseen. If you ever see us in person, listen, if you don't come say hi, do you even have a pulse?
We'll hunt you down. We're going to hunt you down. I'll hold you and Jeff will put you in an arm bar.
And we'll do butt races.
I tell you what, you come to Tallahoma's conference, we'll have a butt race.
There you go. That's how we're going to race, Tom. We're going to do a butt race.
You know what, for a PTO Bible, and watch how many people at the conference.
I guarantee you, if we had a butt race for a PTO Bible, everybody would be on their butts, right?
Hey, if we get all the YouTube, interweb, all of our open-air theology peoples, we've all got to do butt races. The initiation.
You do like the butt lock.
You're the one that's been watching all the videos.
I only watched one, just one. But since we've been talking about it, we're probably going to get all kind of reels.
That's one more than Tom and I have done.
He's got all the, yeah, no oil, please.
All right, that might make things go faster.
Oh, man.
All right, let's end it. Let Melissa go to sleep.
All right, Red, got any last words, brother?
Man, make it a point this week to exalt Christ, to tell someone about the bad news so that the good news is actually good news. Tell somebody about the law and how they've broken it and how they deserve the justice and the wrath of God.
And how the good news is that Jesus came and paid your debt. It's finished. Repent and believe in Christ. Lift his name high this week. I can't.
It's, you know, having another evangelist on the show and this is all my thunder ending. I can't agree on what he said. Go out there, make it a point. Find somebody, walk out the door. Share the gospel with someone.
And everybody have a Merry Christmas.
We're a one string banjo, man.
Yeah, I know, I know. And that string needs to be tuned up. I heard him saying. If you're ever in Tallahoma, Tennessee, please come check us out. Again, I pastor Covenant Reform Baptist Church here. We just got into a really cool building and it would be a joy to worship our great God and Savior with you and have a meal afterwards.
And then just be able to have true koinonia fellowship in person. But other than that, hallelujah.
Hallelujah.