Religiosity or Spirituality #2 - the Two Streams — Zac Poonen

Hunger for God and the Absence of Partiality

Evening, I was speaking about the importance of hungering after God if we are to receive his best. We can get from God as much as we really long for. There is no partiality with him. All are exactly the same irrespective of education, race, wealth, knowledge, anything, intelligence.

He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. In any part of the world, we, Peter, we read that he had this idea that a lot of people in Israel had in those days that God would only meet with the people of Israel.

And one day when he went to the house of Cornelius, who was a non-Israelite, and he was surprised to see the hunger that man had in his contact with God and how God poured out his Holy Spirit on him.

He made a statement, he said, ìNow I realize that God is no respecter of persons, but that in every nation and every place, wherever people fear him and seek him, he is found by them .î The rich, like Mary said, he sends empty away, but the hungry he has filled with good things.

This is always Godís way. He looks around the world for those who have a hunger after him and he meets with them and he bypasses all the others. And that should alert us, we should wake up, because time is short, the coming of the Lord is near, and itís important that we donít miss out on what God has for us at this particular time.

Religiosity Versus Spirituality in the Pharisees

Our subject has been religiosity or spirituality. Now a lot of people donít think thereís a difference between being religious and being spiritual, and thatís one of the great ways in which Satan deceives a lot of people into thinking that Godís accepted them when he hasnít.

The clearest example of that would be the Pharisees in the time of Jesus. The Pharisees knew the Bible, Jesus knew the Bible. The Pharisees prayed, Jesus prayed. The Pharisees fasted, Jesus fasted. The Pharisees went to the synagogue, Jesus went to the synagogue.

The Pharisees had missionary activity. Jesus said they crossed land and sea to make cross-legs. Jesus was engaged in missionary activity. And yet the difference between the Pharisees and Jesus was the difference between hell and heaven.

In spite of all this, in spite of all the things they did which were so similar, the Pharisees were religious, Jesus was spiritual. Thereís a lot, you know, this contrast comes many, many times in the Gospels.

In the story of the prodigal son, you see the father and the elder brother. The father is like God and the elder brother is like the Pharisees. So there again you see the contrast between a spiritual man represented by the father and a religious person represented by the elder son.

Jesus once told the Pharisees that thereís more hope for the, I mean if I were to paraphrase his words, thereís more hope for the prostitutes and thieves than for all of you to enter into Godís kingdom.

Now if you got up in a church, in a respectable Christian church on a Sunday morning and preached what Jesus preached, that the prostitutes and thieves have more chance of getting into Godís kingdom than you people who come Sunday mornings to the meeting, well, theyíd do the same thing to you that they did to Jesus.

In one place it says they interrupted him in a sermon in Luke chapter 4, pulled him down from the pulpit and took him to a cliff to throw him down to kill him. But we donít have such preachers nowadays who tell the truth straight, unfortunately.

Jesus turned to a bishop once and said, ìYou must be born again .î. You ever heard of anyone telling a bishop, ìYou must be born again ?î. Nicodemus was a bishop. The closest that we can think of in terms of todayís religious system is a bishop.

Thatís what he was, this old white bearded man. He wasnít an adulterer or a thief. Jesus said, ìYou must be born again .î. So, we find that in the ministry of Jesus Christ on earth, his biggest conflict was not with sinners, it was with religious people.

You never find Jesus lambasting and hitting out at the prostitutes and thieves and drunkards and gamblers. You read the Gospels, you read just the four Gospels and see who Jesus preached against the most.

I never see him condemning a thief or a murderer or a prostitute. Not that he approved of them. He always told them, ìI donít condemn you, but donít sin anymore .î. He always concluded his message with, ìDonít sin anymore.

Itís wrong what you did. You shouldnít do it again .î. But he was always very merciful to them. But we donít see much mercy in his attitude toward the religious leaders of his time and to the holy people who sat in the churches or the synagogues of those days.

He exposed that religious veneer that they had, stripped them of it, and thatís what infuriated them. You know, they didnít kill Jesus because he washed peopleís feet or loved his enemies or anything like that.

It wasnít because of a message of love and goodness that they wanted to kill him. You preach the message of love and goodness and being a servant and all that, and theyíll give you a medal. They wonít crucify you.

But why did they crucify him? Because he exposed their hollow, empty religious traditions, which meant nothing to God. They had rules that you couldnít do this on the Sabbath day, and you couldnít do that on the Sabbath day, and you couldnít do the other thing.

And at the same time, they were exploiting poor widows who couldnít pay the rent, turning them out of their houses, and were so hard on poor sinful people that Jesus said, ìThis is all hypocrisy. This is not a true representation of what God is like .î When Jesus came to earth, the only picture that people had of God was what the Pharisees gave them in Israel, and that was a caricature of what God was really like.

God wasnít like that at all. And yet the poor people who sat in the synagogue and saw these old 60, 70-year-old Pharisees get up and preach, they thought, ìThis is what God is like .î I mean, if you had gone to Peter, before he had met Jesus, say when Peter was around 25, 28 years old, and if you had asked him, ìWell, Peter, can you tell me the names of four or five really godly men whom you have met in your life ?î I think he would have given you the name of four or five Pharisees in his synagogue.

He said, ìThese are the most godly men Iíve met. I mean, Iíve seen them from childhood. Theyíre so holy. Theyíre always praying. Theyíre always fasting. And they know the Bible so well, and they preach such profound messages in the synagogue, so profound I canít even understand what theyíre saying.

These are the holy men. Itís very similar to todayís Christianity .î. And then, imagine the shock he got when Jesus got up in the synagogue and hit out at all these fellows and said, ìYouíre all on your way to hell.

How can you escape the damnation of hell, you hypocrites, you humbugs ?î. Can you imagine the shock Peter got when the people who he thought were the most godliest men on earth, Jesus says, ìThey are the first people to go to hell .î.

That must have required a lot of reorienting of his thinking. There you see how religious people can fool a lot of undiscerning, simple people and make them feel that we are very spiritual. I think the whole synagogue was fooled by these religious leaders till Jesus came and exposed the whole thing.

And if Jesus hadnít come, these fellows would have continued comfortably in their religion, fool people, collecting money from them, deceiving them that everything was okay and that they were on their way to heaven, when they werenít.

Neither the leaders nor the synagogue. Jesus called them ìblind leaders of the blind .î. Thatís what he said. And he said, ìThe problem is itís not just the leader who falls into the ditch, the blind fellow falls, the follower falls into the ditch too .î.

And thatís what Jesus infuriated the Lord. He says, ìOkay, you leaders, if you want to go and fall into the ditch, go and fall. Iím not going to stop you. But why do you lead these other poor fellows into it ?î.

Religion as a Universal Human Temptation

And thatís exactly the condition in Christendom today. I mean, Iíve been a Christian 42 years since I was born again. Iíve gone around in many countries and all the continents and seen people in various denominations and I find the same thing in the old time denominations and the new time, new denominations that have come over the last 40 -50 years.

Itís exactly the same story. People become religious. Thereís a tendency, just like thereís a tendency in man to sin. What many people havenít discovered is thereís a tendency in man to be religious. Man is a religious creature.

All over the world, in every country, human beings have a problem with anger. You know that. Thatís not any particular race or any particular community or among educated people or uneducated people. All children of Adam have a problem with anger.

All children of Adam have a problem with sexual sin. Itís universal. In exactly the same way, as universal as anger and sexual sin are, is the problem of religion. And thatís what many people donít realize.

Man is a religious creature. And thatís why you have such a lot of religions. They kill each other in the name of religion and hurt one another and feel that no other person is going to God except we.

This is characteristic not only of false religions, itís characteristic of a lot of groups in Christendom too. So religion, I believe, is a tremendous hindrance to Christianity. I donít know how many of you have ever heard anybody say such a thing, that religion is a tremendous hindrance to Christianity.

The Christian religion. You know, when I witness to non-Christians in my own country, and I want to tell them about Jesus Christ as a way of salvation, there are a couple of things I have to say to them as an introduction.

And one of the first things I have to tell them is, ìListen, Iím not talking to you about Christianity. Iím talking to you about Jesus Christ .î And I say thereís a lot of difference between the two. And I also want to say to you that ninety percent of Christians youíve met in your life are not Christians.

Because I have to say that to him, otherwise while Iím talking about the way of salvation, heíll be probably thinking of some Christian who cheated him ten years ago, and somebody else who harmed him in some way who called himself a Christian.

And heíll endure what I say, but he wonít have any respect for what I say until I tell him, ìFirst of all, listen, ninety percent of Christians are not Christians .î I mean, they were born in a Christian family, so what?

It doesnít make a difference. Just because some water was sprinkled on their head, and they were given a particular name from the Bible, didnít make them holy. No. I had all that. I was given a Christian name, some water was sprinkled on my head when I was a little baby, but for nineteen years I was just a sinner like anybody else.

Even though I never got out of bed without saying the Lordís prayer every morning. It didnít make a difference. I was a sinner like anybody else, till Christ came into my life and I was born again. Itís like being part of another race.

To me the difference is, we all agree thereís a difference between animals and human beings. I donít know whether youíd be shocked if I say thereís just as much difference between a person whoís not born again and a person who is born again.

You wouldnít agree? Iíll tell you itís even more. Thereís animal nature, thereís human nature, thereís divine nature. You think the difference between animal nature and human nature is not as much as between human nature and divine nature?

The difference between human nature and divine nature is much more than the difference between a human nature and an animal. Itís absolutely revolutionary when a person is really born again. And thatís why the devil has counterfeited it.

Heís counterfeited it so much that I think a lot of people who say theyíre born again are not. Theyíve gone through a formula saying Lord Jesus come to my heart or something like that, but thereís never been a radical repentance in their life.

I know a lot of people who come to our church who, they thought themselves were born again before they came to our church and they spent a couple of years in our church and they say, ìBrother Isaac, I realize now I never knew what it was to be born again because I never knew what repentance was.

And I never knew what repentance was because I never knew what sin was. Repentance is turning from sin. How do you know whether youíre turning from sin if you donít know what sin is? How can you turn east if you donít know which side is south and north and west and east?

Youíve got to know where youíre turning. And thatís the condition of a lot of people. When we read the scriptures we find that religion is something that started way back in the beginning. And the whole Bible has got these two streams of religiosity and spirituality all the way through.

The Two Streams Begin With Eve, Cain, and Abel

And I want to show you that first of all if you turn to Genesis. Do you know what was the temptation with which Satan came to Eve? I mean everybody knows it was of that tree, the forbidden tree, Genesis chapter 3.

What is it? You know in every temptation thereís something attractive. Thereís something that attracts us. We yield to temptation because we know that if I get that or I do that, I will get some benefit.

It could be pleasure, it could be money, it could be something. But that is the essence of temptation. If something does not give you any benefit, thereís no temptation in it. And you wouldnít be tempted to do something if you didnít feel that by doing it youíd get something out of it.

So what was it that the devil told Eve that she would get if she ate of that tree? You know what the devil told her? You will be like God. I donít know whether you noticed that. Verse 5 of Genesis 3, the devil told her, God knows the day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God.

So what did Eve reach out for? It wasnít to commit murder. The devil didnít tell Eve, go and kill your husband. I donít think she would have succumbed to that temptation. There was no adultery or theft or anything possible at that time.

The temptation that came to Eve was the temptation to be like God. Can that be a temptation? Thatís what it was. It was along the line of religion that Satan tempted Eve. Thatís what I want you to see.

It wasnít to make her spiritual. It was to make her religious. Now when Jesus came, what message did Jesus come with? You know the message Jesus came with? You can be like God. Exactly the same. And yet, this is deception.

You know the line is so fine, if you donít discern, religiosity and spirituality can look so similar. Like I said, the Pharisees prayed, Jesus prayed, the Pharisees knew the Bible, Jesus knew the Bible.

The Pharisees did missionary work, Jesus did missionary work. The Pharisees went to the meetings regularly, Jesus went to the meetings regularly, and yet there was a world of difference. It was light and darkness, the difference between Jesus and the Pharisees.

And when Jesus says you can be like God and the devil says you can be like God, the difference between the two, even though the words are the same, is the difference between light and darkness. Two people can say exactly the same thing from a pulpit.

One may be a servant of God and the other may be a servant of the devil. And yet the words are exactly the same. It is the spirit. What did the devil mean when he told Eve, you can be like God. You are going to be like God in position, authority, knowledge, particularly knowledge and wisdom, all those things which will make you somebody great.

When Jesus came and said you can be like God, what he meant was that you would be like God in character, in love, goodness, washing other people's feet, serving them, denying yourself to bless them, and sacrifice.

They are two completely different messages. And yet the words are the same. And you find religious leaders tend to be like God to people cult leaders. They like to have authority over people by being like God to them in authority, in position, in directing their lives, in controlling them, in christening them.

Whereas a truly spiritual man will be like God in the way Jesus spoke about it, and that is in seeking to serve them and bless them and humble himself to serve them and deny himself and sacrifice many things.

And yet the words are the same. You can be like God. So this is where if you are not able to see deception, Satan can deceive us. He deceived Eve by tempting her saying that you can be like God and led her on the way to hell.

And today Satan can speak through people in a church and lead people to be very religious and they are just a little closer to hell at the end of it. You know those Pharisees were closer to hell after they became Pharisees than before.

Jesus once said that the harlots and tax collectors will get into God's kingdom before you. Meaning that they were not in God's kingdom but they were closer. Whereas these Pharisees were so far away. And yet the people in Israel never thought like that.

The people thought the harlots and tax collectors were far away from God's kingdom. The Pharisees were pretty close. And Jesus said it wasn't true. So there you see that religion tends to take people away from God.

Religious Violence and the Murder of the Spiritual

Not only all the false religions where you can see very clearly how they have led them away from God into the worship of idols, into worshipping animals and demons and also in all these fights and wars and fundamentalist groups in different religions that lead them to kill one another, to kill innocent people in the name of religion, to sacrifice themselves for promoting their religion by killing others.

You know this is obviously satanic. But in the Christian religion too. Religion tends to lead people away from God. If you read about the middle ages, how Christians killed Christians. One group of Christians killed another group of Christians.

And Christians who believed in one form of baptism killed other Christians who believed in another form of baptism. Christians who believed in salvation through the church killed those Christians who believed in salvation by faith in Christ.

They were Christians killing Christians. In the 1500s, in the 1600s, lots of them. And yet, is that what Jesus came to? Is that what he came to teach? That's not Christianity. But he warned his disciples.

I don't know whether you are familiar with this verse in John's gospel in chapter 16, where Jesus said, the time is coming, he said, when, John 16 in verse 2, and where you read synagogue here, you can read in today's terms a church.

They will throw you out of their churches and an hour is coming when those who kill you will think that they are serving God. That's amazing. How in the world can anyone ever think by killing others you are serving God?

But we see that in the world today. You see it in the newspapers. People who think they are serving God by blowing themselves up and killing other innocent civilians. But it's happened in Christianity too.

If you go back 300 -400 years, it's exactly what people did. They said, this fellow has got a wrong teaching because he doesn't agree with our church. And it's better to kill him than allow him to run loose and deceive so many people.

So they actually killed him. There were even people who called themselves believers who killed other Christians and thought they were serving God thereby, by protecting a whole lot of people from deception, by killing this man.

And the first religious murder was when Cain killed Abel. So religious murder started right from the time of the second generation of humanity. So the Bible begins with religious murders. The Bible begins with religious murders.

A religious man killing a spiritual man. That's essentially what Cain and Abel were. See Cain was not an atheist by the way. I hope you know that. He was not an idol worshipper. He never worshipped any idols.

He was not an atheist. And more than that, he was a person who believed in the true God. The God who created his father Adam. And when Cain offered a sacrifice, he was not offering it to some idol. And he was not an atheist.

If he were an atheist, he would have brought no offering. It was not Baal or any such thing that Cain offered his offering to. It was to the true God. And yet he was not a spiritual man. He was a religious person who went through the motions of his religion and thought he was accepted by God because of that.

And God did not accept him. So we mustn't forget that right in the beginning of the Bible you have these two streams. The religious stream and the spiritual stream. Religiosity and spirituality that came from our forefather Adam.

Cain and Abel. And both coming to God. Both coming and bringing their offerings. And I believe that both brought the best of their offerings. I don't believe that Cain brought some third-rate rotten stuff.

He brought an offering from the fields where he was working and a good offering to God. And Cain, Abel brought a lamb because he was a keeper of the sheep. Now, one of the common misconceptions among Christians who don't read the Bible carefully, and there are lots of them like that, is that God accepted Abel's offering and therefore he accepted Abel.

Now, if you haven't, if you've heard what preachers say and you haven't read the Bible, that's what I'm sure you believe. Now I want to show you what the Bible says. Genesis 4 and verse 4. Did the Lord accept Abel?

Because Abel was of his offering? Read carefully. It says in Genesis 4,. And the Lord had regard for Abel and for his offering. He had regard for, he accepted Abel first. So when we read in Hebrews 11 that by faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain.

Why was it a better sacrifice? Was it only because he shed blood there? You know, that's the mistake a lot of people make. They say, well, I claim the blood of Christ. I'm okay. Oh, just hang on. Wait a minute.

That's not enough. It's true that salvation is only through the blood of Jesus Christ. It's not by our works. But the Bible also says faith without works is dead. And an intellectual belief in the blood of Christ, James goes on to say, is no better than the faith the devil has.

It says here, The Lord had regard for Abel. Man looks on the outward appearance. God looks at the heart. And God saw something in Abel's heart which made him accept it. The sacrifices of God are a broken and a contrite spirit.

And that's what he saw in Abel. It's not all written there. But I know why God accepted him. Because other passages of scripture tell us whom God accepts. Isaiah 66 verse 2 says, To this man will I look, the man who's got a broken spirit and who trembles at my word.

So there are many verses like this that teach us that it's a brokenness in the spirit that makes a man acceptable to God. And so two people can come with the same words. We claim the blood of Jesus Christ.

And one man's got a broken spirit because of sorrow for his sin. And the other man is just taking advantage of the blood of Christ as an excuse to, well, you know, cheap grace. You can keep on sinning and take advantage of God.

And God sees a tremendous difference. And yet, outwardly, they look the same. They're both sitting in the same church, singing the same songs about the blood of Christ. And one's on his way to heaven.

The other's on his way to hell. And that's the thing that needs to be exposed. And I believe that any preacher or any leader who does not expose that difference is actually guilty of a whole lot of people in his congregation who go to hell.

And their blood is on his hands. The Bible says that elders are those who are going to give an account to God one day. I've said that often. We have more than 200 people coming to our church in Bangalore, and then I also have a responsibility to many other churches.

And I tell them, listen, I take seriously my responsibility to make sure, not to make sure that you all go to heaven. I can't do that. But to make sure that you know the way clearly. And then that you can choose whether you want to go there or not.

And to point out that those who live in sin, those who commit adultery, those who murder, those who cheat, those who tell lies, go to hell. That's obvious. I mean, I don't need to emphasize that. But to point out that those who fast and pray and come to the meetings can also go to hell along with these murderers and thieves, that's my business to point it out because that's not so obvious.

The Prodigal Son and the Importance of Finishing Well

When you think of the story of the prodigal son, what I see in those two sons is a worldly sinner and a religious sinner. The younger son is the worldly sinner. Obviously evil, living with harlots and wasting his father's time and money and everything.

And the other is the religious sinner. The one who looks so holy and told his father, I've never disobeyed your commandment. And what I see in that story is this. In a nutshell, the story is this. A man had two sons.

At the beginning of the story, the younger son is outside the house and the elder son is inside the house. And at the end of the story, the younger son is inside the house and the elder son is outside the house.

That in a nutshell is that story. And you've got to find out how this elder son ended up outside the house and how the younger son ended up inside the house. Because it's not the way a man starts his life that determines what's going to be the final result.

It's like an Olympic race, the Olympic Games. You never get anyone getting a prize for starting well. Nobody ever gets a medal for that. A lot of people who start well don't even finish in a marathon race.

They drop by the wayside. The prizes are always awarded to those who finish well. The same with God. And a lot of people who start badly sometimes end up first. That's how we see in the story of the prodigal son.

He started really badly. But see where he finished. And the elder son started off so well. Where did he finish? What about the thief on the cross who got saved? How did he start? He was doing badly almost for the last few hours of his life.

And yet the son of God was walking with him in paradise. A man who started so badly. Everybody who knew him had no hope for him. God had. God saw a broken spirit in him. And a lot of people who were standing at the foot of the cross, who were mocking at Jesus, who were holy people, they never made it to God's kingdom.

Brokenness Rather Than Religious Performance

You see how religion has led people away from God. There's a lot of difference between being religious and being spiritual. And Cain and Abel are heads of these two streams. Jesus himself said about Abel as righteous Abel.

In Matthew 23, when he's speaking about the Pharisees, he said, from the blood of righteous Abel down to Zechariah, whom you killed between the temple and the altar, their blood is going to be required from this generation.

So Jesus himself called Abel a righteous man. God had regard for Abel because he was a righteous man. And it didn't mean that God didn't want to save Cain. Just like the story of the prodigal son. Whom did the father love?

The younger son or the elder son? What's the answer? Both. Whom did he go outside the house for? The elder son or the younger son? Both. He went outside the house to welcome the younger son. And when the elder son wouldn't come inside the house, he went outside the house for him too.

Whom does God love more, the prostitute or the Pharisee? Both. But the chances are that the prostitute will come in, in brokenness, sooner than the Pharisee who thinks he's already inside. That's the problem.

Who thinks that because of all his religious activity, God has to be pleased with him? But God isn't. He is, God looks at the heart. Now you find today among Christians, there are Christians who go to some church and they say, well everything is so dead here.

People sit quietly, they don't make any noise and they are so quiet and then to rectify that, they make an assembly where there's a lot of noise and a racket and a lot of jumping around and it's very impressive to someone who doesn't know God and they think that they have pleased God.

I mean all that gives an impression, boy these fellows are really excited about their religion. And I say, man looks on the outward appearance, God looks at the heart. And we'll get a lot of surprises when Christ comes again.

That all this external activity may not indicate true spirituality in the heart. That also may be religion. You see how people's temperaments are different, you know, there are people with a melancholic or a phlegmatic type of temperament who are more inward looking and quiet and then there are other people who are extroverts and choleric type of temperaments who are very exuberant.

So these two type of people will tend to go to two different type of churches. It's got nothing to do with their being spiritual. It's just that that temperament makes them gravitate towards, one the exuberant type likes to go to an exuberant church and the quiet melancholic type likes to go and sit in a church where they don't make so much noise.

Now which of the two is spiritual? I say God looks at the heart. God is not near noisy people or quiet people. He is near broken hearted people. And you can find them in both groups. And that's where we can be deceived.

And that's where each group looks down on the other group thinking, oh they are not spiritual. They say, oh those fellows are noisy, they are not spiritual. And those people look down here and say, these fellows are quiet.

They are not spiritual. I say spirituality has got nothing to do with noise or silence. It's got to do with brokenness. God is near the broken hearted. I remember years ago when I said, Lord, can you tell me the secret of your being near me all the time.

Particularly when I stand up to preach. I want you to be near me. If you are near me, I am okay. And not only when I am preaching, when I am tempted, I want you to be near me. If you are near me, I will overcome any temptation in the world.

I want you to be near me when times when there are problems. I want you to be near me. If you are near me, I am not afraid of facing any problem in the world. I want you to be near me in times of trial, times of temptation, times of financial hardship.

It doesn't matter how hard things are financially. Lord, if you are near me, I am okay. And the Lord gave me one verse in Psalm 34 that really helped me. Verse 18. It says the Lord is near the broken hearted.

Boy, that was really good for me. And what the Lord said to me was, that if you are broken hearted, I will always be near you. It's got nothing to do with how much noise you make or how much noise you don't make.

It's got to do with your heart, not with your mouth. It's the heart broken because of sorrow for sin, broken because of a longing after God. I am not all that I want to be. See, a broken man is not always pointing his finger at other people and criticizing everybody else.

He has no time for that. He is so taken up with his own failure and short coming that he has no time to find fault with other people. See, the church we belong to, I mean, started as a little meeting in my home 27 years ago.

And many people came together from, some from other religions and some from dead religious systems in Christendom. But we came together and I remember a man once came to me and said, Brother Zach, I'd like to join your church.

I am also fed up with this particular denomination. I'd like to leave that and come to your church. So I told him, I said, listen, if you are fed up with that denomination and you join us, one day you will be fed up with us too.

Because we are not a bunch of perfect people. We are also sinners, saved by grace. But he says, but I said, you know, we are a bunch of people who are fed up with ourselves, not with other people or other denominations.

And he said, if you are fed up with yourself, oh, welcome. You will have glorious fellowship among us. You know, there is a difference between leaving a church because I am fed up with that church and all the way everybody behaves over there, they don't show any love and all these criticisms.

Oh, I have heard a lot of criticism like that. And there is a difference between that type of person who wants to leave a church because he is fed up with everything and all the people over there and the system and everything else and a person who is fed up with himself.

God, I am such a sinner. I am fed up that I don't seem to get victory over my anger. I don't seem to get victory over my lust. I don't seem to get victory over my love of money. That's what bothers me more than all the wrong things they do in that system.

If you are like that, there is hope for you. Tremendous hope. That's what it means to be broken hearted. A broken hearted man is not fed up with what's going on in his church. He is fed up with what's going on in his own heart.