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Love for you. We care deeply for you so we're here to proclaim the truth and the only way we can know truth the only way we can have an objective standard of What is morally right and wrong?

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It's through Christ. It's through the Word of God. It's through God's law So we're here today to beg and plead with you to turn from this wickedness turn from this sin

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God calls this an abomination So we're here today to point you towards what is just and holy and righteous.

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It's not us. We're not here to give you our opinion We're here to proclaim Christ and Him alone

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We're here to be obedient servants to God and do what we've been commissioned to do and that is to go forth and preach the

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Gospel that's to preach the gospel to everyone to teach them the commandments of Christ the commandments of God the one that we serve

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See we don't stand before you claiming that we're more righteous or holy than you are We don't claim that we're better than you

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We stand before you knowing our condition before perfectly holy and just God We know that there's nothing we can do when we come to God when we die one day and stand before God There's nothing we can offer him.

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There's nothing we can do to add to God and who he is We come to God with our pockets turned out with nothing to give to him

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But the hope that is in Jesus is that grace is poured out on sinners on people that don't deserve it

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What we rightfully deserve as rebels against God is death what we rightfully deserve is eternal punishment in hell

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That's what we all deserve me included Not one of us can stand before God and offer our good deeds or good works as a way to justify ourselves

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Just like if you were to go in front of a judge and you were guilty of a crime You couldn't tell the judge all these good things you've done

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In order to justify yourself for the law you've broken and we've all broken the law of God We've all lied.

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We've stolen. We've blasphemed. We've defiled the marital bed. We've committed adultery

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Christ says this he says if you even hate somebody in your heart, you've already committed murder He says if you lust after somebody in your heart, you've already committed adultery

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Do you towards the only hope you have? The only peace that you'll have in your life the only reconciliation you can have for that day when you die and stand before God Now we can sit here.

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We can give you a Bible verse after Bible verse We can preach truth and facts to you all day, but the only truth that is going to change you is

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Christ It's him alone. That'll change you It's God that'll remove your heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh like it declares in Ezekiel chapter 36

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That it's God that changes us. It's God that chooses us and transforms us into the image of Christ So I urge you today to beg

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God to change your heart to change your mind See repentance isn't just words out of your mouth

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Repentance means a change of mind You no longer think the way you used to when you were dead in your sins

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When you were a lover of sin when you were a lover of pleasing your flesh in rebellion against God Shaking your fist at your creator

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You no longer think that way now. You love what God loves and hate what God hates and yes,

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God does hate He lists things in his word that he hates One of them is sexual immorality

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He hates it he hates the hands that shed the blood of the innocent There are things that God hates and he has to hate it being a loving

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God. He has to hate what opposes his character See the law of God is not just arbitrary rules.

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The law of God is a reflection of his character and It's how we ought to live

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When God created us we were made in his image to be upright, but we rebelled against him

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We shook our fist at God we chose to sin We chose to defy our creator

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But we weren't made To be wicked we were made to be upright

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Sir, I see you flipping me off there and I can tell you this Christ says in Matthew From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks you have evidence to me and all these people here how hateful your heart is

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What happened to acceptance I thought this community was all about acceptance But you're there flipping me off and cursing at me.

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You've evidence to all of us here your desperate need for Christ You've evidence Your heart is so hard and filled with anger and hatred

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That you you let profane words come out of your mouth that your brothers and sisters We're here because we care for you

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We love you deeply if you saw somebody walking towards a cliff You wouldn't just let him walk off the cliff you would point him in the other direction

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You would call out to them you would warn them. We're here to warn you that this path You're on is a path of destruction.

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It's a path leading you straight to hell Now you guys can laugh and mock you can turn around and you can walk away and reject everything

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I've told you today you can reject God you can reject his gospel I'll tell you this the people we're here for are the ones that hear the message and come to Christ We're here for the ones that their hearts are softened and changed

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There's a fence between us but but I'll tell you this brother I do care for you. I love you, man I deeply love you

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I'm not gonna hug you to the fence brother Let me ask you this let me ask you this

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So so we're all gonna die one day, right I really tried to make it up to you

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You're haters of the gospel, you're haters of truth so you want to tune it out You don't want to hear it?

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You hate God, you hate his law and so you want to tune it out and silence it What happened to inclusion?

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What happened to inclusion? What happened to being accepting of everybody? What happened to that?

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I thought you and your community, see right there another middle finger From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks

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You can't love God because you're in rebellion against him. You don't obey his law. How could you love him?

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God says those that love me keep my commandments See right there that obscene gesture shows that you do not know

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Christ You do not love God because you are a rebel against him See we can't claim that we know

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God We can't claim that God loves us and will forgive us When we live in rebellion against him, when we practice lawlessness and live unrepentant in sin

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Christ says this, he says many will come to me on that day He's talking about on the day of judgment

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And we'll say Lord, Lord didn't we do all these things in your name? And he'll say depart from me

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I never knew you those who practice lawlessness Because you can't live in sin and claim you know

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God You can't claim that God loves you and will forgive you when you are in rebellion against him

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When you are haters of his law When you are in rejection of what he's commanded you to do

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God commands you not to defile the marital bed He commands you not to commit adultery

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He calls what is happening here today an abomination This is why

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Sodom and Gomorrah were wiped out It was for this very thing, for homosexuality

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For taking what God has made and defiling it God has made it for one man and one woman to come together and be one flesh

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That is what God's intention is, that is what God's creation is all about But you don't want

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God, you don't want his law So this is what we do, this is what all of us do as sinners Is we elevate ourselves to the level of God We reject

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God and his law And we decide what's right and wrong We make ourselves arbiter

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We make ourselves judge over morality See and Christ says, it's no surprise to me that you're laughing brother

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It's no surprise to me God says that there will be mockers and scoffers See when you hear the gospel it triggers you to mock and laugh

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Because you hate God, you hate his law And when you hear the proclamation of the good news of Jesus When you hear the proclamation of Christ You laugh and mock

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You're in rejection, you're in rebellion of God Well why don't you come over here and you can hear me better Brothers and sisters there's only one hope for us

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That hope is in Christ alone It is faith alone in Christ alone We are saved by grace

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It's not about works It's not about what we can do to earn salvation It's about what

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Christ did for us See Christ came and became the perfect sacrifice for our sins This is

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ASU's office We can't just be over there Yeah we can, it's ASU's public property I'm going to get ASU PD over here

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That's okay, I'm an ASU student too so I mean That's fine, it's open campus,

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I can be here sir With respect to you, I respect your position I'm just going to let them deal with it because it's their campus Absolutely, absolutely, thank you, appreciate it

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Do me a favor, can you hang tight until I get them over I'm going to keep going He's going to keep going I'm going to ask you to hold on until Can you quote to me what law or ordinance

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I'm breaking I'm just making sure you're not breaking the law Okay, well you can't tell me to cease and desist something

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If you can't clearly articulate to me the law Just keep preaching I'm just going to go back one more time

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Brothers and sisters, this is what happens when the proclamation of the gospel goes forth Is people want to silence it

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Because you don't want to address your sin You don't want to address that you are living a lifestyle

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That is in rebellion against God and leading you to hell So I'm here today to warn you and to plead with you guys to turn from this

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The only hope we have is in Christ We have to put our faith in Him and trust in Him Hey, you can say whatever you want sir,

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I still love you I still care about you and I'm still going to stand here In hopes that God will soften your heart That God will change your mind

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I love you brother, I love you brother I tell you what

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God, my heart breaks for you right now I know that I am no different than you The only difference between us is

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Christ That Christ has come in and changed my heart I have a new heart and a new spirit now

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The heart that was once inside me has changed me It's changed the very nature of who

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I am I used to be a rebel against God I used to be a drug addict I used to be a fornicator

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I didn't change on my own volition And one day I didn't just decide To stop doing those things

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I love In my mind,

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I had new desires And this is what God says in His word That He makes us a new creation

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The old passes away It says we have to die to this world Be buried with Christ That is what you need, that is what all of you need

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Is to be raised again with Christ To shed these things to the world See it says in the book of John In chapter 15

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That if the world hates you Know that it hated me before it hated you But God has chosen us

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Out of the world So the world hates us So those that sit there

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And mock and curse You're hateful towards God In the proclamation of the gospel

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It's God that you hate It's His law that you hate And that's what causes your hearts

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To be so filled with anger and hatred It's because if you were to honor God And be obedient to God You would have to reject this lifestyle

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That you live in You would have to turn from the sin You would have to put your faith in Christ You would have to turn from the way that you live your life

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See, the truth Is being shut out because you guys Have closed off your ears

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And closed your eyes to the truth You don't want God, you don't want His law So you want to shut it out

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But just because you turn away from it Just because you put your hands over your ears It doesn't stop the impending destruction

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That's awaiting you I promise you this, if your house was on fire Pretend you don't hear the siren

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But it's not going to stop the destruction That's coming upon your home Just like you can toot out your conscience

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You can pretend that you don't hear The word of God That you don't hear your own spirit

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The Holy Spirit talking to you You can try and shut it out And tune it out

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But it won't change the truth The truth is this, is that without Christ You are dead in your sins

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There is no hope for you There is no hope for you apart from Jesus You need to hear the truth

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You need to hear the gospel You need Christ Because apart from Christ There is no hope for you, there is no peace for you

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Brothers and sisters I stand here because I care about you I love you deeply I love you enough to tell you the truth

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Even amongst all this opposition Even amongst all the hatred

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I'm here because I deeply care for you If I didn't love you

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If I didn't love you I would walk away and wish you all the hell And not even wish my time here

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If I loved you I would tell you the truth It is unloving of me To not tell you the truth

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To not point you away from sin To not point you towards Christ Towards your only hope and salvation

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If I can say the truth of God It would be unloving of me not to share that with you I must proclaim the gospel

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I must love my neighbor And you all are my neighbors If I don't tell you the truth

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It is unloving It's because I care for you and love you That I stand here today

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To go against what society says To go against what this culture says I'm willing for everyone

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To come at me in opposition To curse at me and put me off I will still stand here boldly On the foundation of the gospel

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That is the only standard I can have I'm not here to preach my opinion to you

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I'm not here to preach my feelings to you I'm here to tell you about Christ I'm here to tell you about what

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God Has already declared in His word And God says that if you love Him You will obey what

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He's commanded you He commands you not to defile The marital bed He calls this an abomination

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He commands us for a man not to lay with another man To do this

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Is to practice lawlessness Is to rebel against your creator You know the God I'm speaking of Because you live your life

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In the Christian worldview You live your life like you matter You live your life like you have value

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And you do have value But see my worldview as a Christian Is the only thing that can justify your value

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See the reason you have value The reason That I can justify why you're worthy

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Of love, dignity, and respect Is because you're made in the image of God All of you are made in the image of God Worthy of love, dignity, and respect

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So it is unloving of me Not to point you towards Christ Not to point you towards repentance Now I can't change you

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I have no ability whatsoever To save you But I know the person who does Christ is the only one who can save you

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He's the only one that can help you He's the only one that can bring you from being dead In your sins and bring you to life

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You need to be brought to life You need to be born again We need to go?

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Is there another section I can go to? No, just keep preaching through the holes, man They can hear you, those banners don't stop the sound

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Brothers and sisters These signs you hang up are not going to block out the sound They're not going to block out the truth

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You all stand there And you still are listening And that's for a reason You're listening right now because God is working

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On some of your hearts Now I'm not here for the people that are going to turn around And walk away and reject

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God I'm here for that one person out there That hears the gospel and comes to Christ That's who

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I'm here for today And since I don't know who that person is I am going to proclaim the gospel to all of you

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I can't look inside your heart I can't see what's inside your heart Christ can God can see inside your heart

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God is the one that works on your heart That changes your heart I urge you,

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I implore you Get in the word of God Hit your knees and beg God to forgive you

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Beg Him to change your heart and change your mind To love the things that He loves And hate the things that He hates

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What's up, brother? Can I tell you something? Absolutely, sir, what's up?

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You know what? 20 years ago, you sang Jesus into my heart, and I did

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And you know what? I came out Because before, I would've fucking came

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And whooped your ass in a fucking heartbeat Just because you got in my face Because you got in my space

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I would've fucking beat the shit out of you In a fucking heartbeat You could've brought five of your friends

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And I still would've beat the shit out of you But you know what? Jesus showed me the way Because you know what?

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I'm happy with myself And I'm not in that fucking space anymore I'm not in that space

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So you claim that you know Jesus and that He's your Savior You know what? I sure do I sure do

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So in the book of Matthew, Christ says Those that practice lawlessness, I will say depart from me I never know you

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He says that those that live in sin will die in their sin So whoever told you you can just say a prayer

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And that punches your ticket to heaven That person lied to you I'm not a

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Catholic You know what? It's not a matter of It's not a matter of being a Baptist, Catholic or whatever

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In my heart, you know what? I know I'm right I know I'm okay God made me this way

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God made us upright And sin has corrupted our nature You know what?

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God did not make you hateful Something Something made you hateful

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To sit here and say that I did something fucking wrong And I'm going to hell We all deserve hell, even

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I do The only thing that's going to justify us is Christ I did, I told you what I just told you

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You said you came out as a homosexual Didn't Jesus say be with the one you love And love people

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Where does He say be homosexual? He doesn't say that He actually condemns that He says a man should not lie with another man

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Absolutely, He calls out all sexual immorality Where does Jesus ever say that?

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He calls it an abomination It's an abomination Jesus never said that in the Bible Anywhere in that Bible, Jesus never said

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You're going off the base of other shit That man put in a book So Christ condemns

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All of sexual immorality Nowhere Did Jesus ever say Man is not supposed to lie with man

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So Christ continually in the New Testament Quotes from the Old Testament And uses law from the Old Testament To apply in the

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New Testament So therefore when it's already established in Levitical law It's already established in the Old Testament Christ never goes against what's already declared in the

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Word Well in the New Testament It says that those things are done away with Oh, so now

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We get to choose It's what the apostles and what Christ said Is done away with You know what, stop

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So you're evidencing right now you don't know Christ You're here cursing, you're knowingly

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Practicing homosexuality You do not know Christ I haven't practiced homosexuality in years

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Because I've been celibate for fucking many years And just because I'm cursing don't mean shit

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From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks Okay, and I'm saying You're evidencing your heart

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Because you guys are being hateful I love you, I care about you, how am I being hateful? You're being hateful

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Have I cursed at you? Have I cursed at you? But you've cursed at me, have you not?

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Have you cursed at me? So who's being hateful, sir? You are, because you're coming here

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Preaching your hate for no reason Right, see, so you call the Word of God hate See, you don't know him

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I told you the way that I was before I told you the way I was before But where are you evidencing that your heart has changed?

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You're here right now You're here right now cursing at me Saying that you've changed from this hateful person Just because I'm cursing don't mean shit

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If I was still hateful, like I said Years ago, I would beat the shit out of you

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I would hop over this fence And beat the shit out of all three of you See, and that's proof that all of us All of us are depraved and dead narcissists

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No, don't do that, don't do that He also says don't practice homosexuality No, he didn't

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It's declared in his Word Paul says in the New Testament all Scripture is God breathed All Scripture is

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God breathed So you're saying that Christ contradicts what's in the

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Old Testament Jesus never said Don't practice homosexuality Jesus never said that He says not to defile the marital bed

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If that is what you're reading Then you're wrong Sir, do you have a

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Bible? Do you read your Bible? Yes, I have a Bible I've been in church since I was a fucking child

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And I stopped going because of the hatred That you guys preach Sir, I don't hate you,

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I love you I care enough to tell you the truth That if you keep down this path And if you keep living in sin You're on your path to hell, sir

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God says that if you practice lawlessness He'll say depart from me, I never knew you By whose standard?

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By God's standard You're on your way to hell By your standard, you're not Sir, if you don't use God's standard as your objective standard

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Then you have no standard It doesn't matter what you say You fabricated your own version of Christ So that you can live how you feel is right

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So then you're saying You're God I believe in the God of Scripture The God of the

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Bible So then what you're saying is your God is different from the God I believe in Yes Based on your confession of who you think

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God is Your confession of God Blatantly contradicts what God has declared in His word

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All I can say is You're preaching hate I'm preaching love for you, brother I want you to stand before God I want you to stand before Him righteous

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I love you, brother I want you to stand before God I could accept you for who you are

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No matter what your beliefs are But if you become a spill in the trainer So if I was a rapist

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Would you accept me for who I am? No, I wouldn't Because that's something against humanity

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By whose standards? In some cultures, in the Amazon, it's okay to rape It's culturally accepted So who's standard?

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I'm not raping you I'm not having sex with you Would you accept me though if I was a rapist?

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I've never been in your bedroom No, would you condone what I do? If you saw me rape somebody right on the street

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Answer my question If you saw me raping somebody right here on the street Would you do something? Would you stop me? Why? Because it's wrong

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What if I said that's hateful for you to interrupt me and interfere with my lifestyle? Because if I am with a man

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And I'm in their bedroom You've made a confession to me

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That you've come out, that you're homosexual And I'm telling you, with love Not hatred for you Just like if you saw someone being raped

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If you saw someone being raped, you would lovingly try to interfere And stop them, and you would tell them the truth That rape is wrong, you shouldn't do it

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I'm here to lovingly tell you that that's Homosexuality is wrong God condemns it

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And I want you to stand before God one day The day you die, I want you to be seen as righteous So you're telling me that is completely wrong?

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Yes, that is wrong Even though Jesus told you to love the people

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I do love you I love you enough to tell you the truth I'm not going to sit here

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And keep telling you what it is You say you love me Because you want me to follow what you believe in And that's all it is

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It's what God says and declares in his word Y 'all are preaching hate What if I loved an 8 year old boy?

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Is that okay? Would you condone that? No, I wouldn't Why not? Because an 8 year old is not old enough to realize

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An 8 year old is not old enough to realize What if he gives me consent? An 8 year old is not old enough to realize

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That you know what? I shouldn't be with this man Who's 30 years older than me So you're condemning all these other things that are sexually immoral

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But your sexual immorality You want me to accept You're saying my sexual immorality

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Is not doing anything to you It doesn't matter if I'm with a little boy Or raping someone, that's doing nothing to you

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No, it's not But is it right because that person isn't consenting Or is not able to Function the reality of consenting

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So consent All of a sudden makes sexual immorality Not immoral anymore You're saying immoral

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It's immoral because God declares it in his word That's how I can have a standard to tell you It's morally wrong Because God has already declared in his word

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That it is wrong for a man to lay with another man That it is an abomination God has declared it so I know it to be true

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That's the standard I go by I don't go by my own standard, I go by my own opinion or feelings You keep saying Jesus said it

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Jesus never said it God and Jesus are one There are one God and being in nature You know what, become spiritual

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Spiritual? Why on earth would I do that? You want me to reject Christ? I'm not saying reject

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Christ What is spiritual, man? That you know in your heart is right

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So I'm the standard And when somebody else is telling you That it's wrong You can decide whether or not that is wrong

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For my people So I'm the arbiter of what's right and wrong I think so, yes

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Do you think I'm perfect? You're telling me Do you think I'm perfect? No, I'm not So how can we be the arbiter and the standard of what's morally right and wrong

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When we're imperfect beings But you're trying to tell me that I'm imperfect I'm not using my opinion though I'm using the word of God which is an objective standard

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You're reading a book That a man wrote Based on what they want to do I'm reading a book inspired by God That lots of men wrote