James Talarico and the PCUSA Exposed

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Iranian Navy is already gone, but they only had 11 ships anyways. So, you know,

I hear people talking about, the entire Iranian Navy has been wiped out. Well, there were 11 ships. Some of them had outboard motors.

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I haven't verified this, but I guess they got the next

Ayatollah too. Seriously. I mean, number three. Like, I think two hours after he was elected.

And not the one you already heard about. The one replaced him. And I had seen a really funny thing with him.

Somebody put him in a red Star Trek shirt. That's, yeah, that's.

It's been determined that this is what the man's enemies do. We elect him.

Yes, yes, yes. You want to get rid of somebody? Elect him Ayatollah of Iran. He'll be gone within two hours.

Wow. Yeah, you think that there's some people on the inside in Iran?

Maybe, possibly. I probably got people on the inside all over here too. With the

Democrats doing what they're doing. Speaking of Democrats, gotta start off the program today.

We've got to address this issue. There's just absolutely no two ways about it. I saw this guy a few weeks ago.

He's this James Tallarico is the exact representation of what the

PCUSA has become. Now, the PCUSA, President Church, United States of America, PCA, President Church USA, you've got your spectrum.

From your super conservative OPCs to your PCA to the PCUSA. The PCUSA is the left wing, all the major denominations.

This is what happens over time. It's just what happens over time.

And, you know, Baptists are the best at it, dividing that is. But there are times when it's absolutely necessary to divide when the

OPC broke off and Westminster formed and Jay Gresham Machen, so on and so forth.

Absolutely necessary. This is where that redeemed Zoomer guy is just completely out to lunch. And he's a child.

He's childish in his thinking. He's not mature. He will not listen. He thinks he's got it all figured out.

So he's staying in this apostate denomination, PCUSA, to try to reform it and bring it back.

And it's foolishness. You know, I have a dear friend and he is a dear friend.

For years, he has been working to try to elect conservative school board members in the district he lives in back in Missouri.

And he's gotten involved. He doesn't, you know, he's retired. So it's not like he has kids in the system.

I'm not sure what his granddaughter's doing as far as that's concerned. But, and grandson.

But, you know, at first I was like, oh, okay, you know, but, and they actually had a little success initially, getting some conservatives elected to this thing.

But then the NEA found out about it and all they had to do is throw a bunch of money at it and they reversed stuff.

And most of the people in the district don't care. Hardly anybody shows up to vote. So he's out there putting up signs and doing all this hard work.

And it didn't take me long to start going, bro, you're trying to clean house in Mullick's temple.

You're trying to bring reformation to Mullick's temple. I mean, that's what the educational system is in the

United States. It's Mullick's temple. It's a pagan temple. It's run by purple haired nut balls, half of which may well be demonized.

And you're not going to bring reformation there, not through the political system. It's just not going to happen.

Put your effort into homeschooling, put your effort into Christian schools, you know, the necessary alternatives.

And he's still at it, still doing his thing. Even though I've been very straight up front, especially now,

I've been very upfront with him. It's like, dude, that windmill ain't going down no matter how many times you ride at it on your horse.

And it's the same thing, trying to quote unquote reform the PCUSA. Now, redeem

Zuma, or whatever his name is, Zuma redeemed, I don't know, who cares? He doesn't have the theological background to be a reformer in the first place.

He doesn't have a foundation. But still, it's just, it's absolutely necessary when a denominational structure is captured by people who are going, who are making it very, very clear, this denomination is going to fundamentally deny the authority of scripture in all aspects of life.

And that's always where it starts. You go back to any of the mainline denominations, you know,

I remember my dad, he used to say, son, I remember when I was young, man, there were some

Methodist preachers that could just preach the gospel. I mean, they were just strong as can be.

And there were, and there were. And my debate with Barry Lynn in 2001 was at a

PCUSA church. It was one of the last conservative PCUSA churches trying to take a stand.

And so, you know, I honor the fact that there were believers in the PCUSA, but you've got to recognize once apostasy has taken place and the patient has died, you don't sit around putting makeup on the corpse, which is what you'd be doing now.

And so, the first place that you can see the apostasy is in the seminary.

And this James Tallarico has an MDiv from the

PCUSA seminary in Austin. Okay, so this seminary would have two left wings if it was a plane.

All right, there's no balance here. You need to understand something, folks. Conservative seminaries, conservative seminaries read liberals and respond to them.

Liberal seminaries do not even know that conservatives exist. They never read any of their books.

They never engage any of their arguments. Believe me, I've engaged with Bishop John Shelby Spong.

Okay, I know these people. I know how they think.

He was piss compelling, I realize that. They don't think that conservatives have an

IQ above 20. And so, they don't read our books. They've never heard the other side.

They think that their drivel is all there is. It's accepted as absolute given fact.

And so, that's where this guy's gone to school. And I've noticed now that,

I started seeing a few things coming out over the past couple of weeks as the run up to the primary. Well, he just bounced

Jasmine Crockett. He defeated her. He's gonna be the Democratic nominee for Senate in the state of Texas.

And now, starting yesterday and especially today, this flood, absolute flood of video, because he's never met a camera he doesn't like.

So, a flood of videos of this Tallarico and his absolutely wild -eyed leftism are all over ExNOW.

I mean, somebody's digging them all up. Protestia is doing it. Everybody's just cranking this stuff out.

And it's not difficult to do, because he speaks in churches all the time. And I think maybe that's why he won is the idea is in Texas, hey, maybe he'll sort of go down the middle and even if the people on the left don't necessarily like him because he looks like,

I think Al Mohler described him as the American grandson. He looks like the grandson all grandparents have in the

U .S. He's just, he looks like a nice, well, he doesn't really look like a

Texan. He looks like somebody from Austin. Austin, of course, is deep, deep, deep blue. Would fit in much better in California than it does in Texas.

But anyway, maybe they're thinking, let's take this out of the middle.

We'll get the stuff on the left anyways. And this way we can win. Now, he is a radical.

He's a radical in everything. He's, his left wing is, what was that guy they kept running in Texas?

Beto, Beto O 'Rourke, whatever his name is. He's just as radical as that guy in his politics.

But he's well -spoken and he's clean cut. And he just doesn't ooze.

O 'Rourke was just creepy, totally creepy. So here's what you need to understand.

This Tallarico guy, this isn't unusual for PCUSA. This isn't unusual for seminaries in the

PCUSA or in the United Methodist domination or amongst the Episcopalians or the

ELCA Lutherans. The stuff you hear him saying is what is being taught in those schools.

This guy, if you understand where he came from and that he's not really unusual, you'll understand all those rainbow stolled priestesses standing in Lutheran churches,

Presbyterian churches, Episcopalian churches, United Methodist churches behind a pulpit saying the same radical, idiotic stuff.

Now, would this guy ever debate? Maybe after the election, if he loses it, possibly.

They're never gonna allow him to do it now. Now, Bob Gagnon, Robert A .J. Gagnon is down in Houston.

And so, I actually said on YouTube this morning, well, maybe since they're both in Texas, well, what does it mean they're both in Texas?

Texas is larger than most European nations. So that doesn't really mean anything, but I can guarantee you,

I haven't talked to Bob, but I know Bob well enough. If Tallarico was willing to debate, and I mean a real debate, not one of these fashion shows that they call debates, but if Tallarico was willing to debate,

Bob would debate him in a heartbeat. And it would be an absolute slaughter. And the funny thing is,

Bob Gagnon wrote his work on homosexuality while a member of the PCUSA denomination, long time ago, but yeah.

So that might be something, maybe that might get him through the door. I'd love to see it happen, really would.

But it would be an evisceration of this guy, because you can just tell from what he's saying, he's just repeating the same drivel that he was spoon -fed in seminary, has never even considered the other side, not even close.

So you're gonna be hearing a lot of stuff. So let's, hold on a second here.

This is gonna sit here and - Before we go further.

All right, let me, gotta do the expand the duty here.

Okay, this is only 30 seconds. Nice and short, all right? But you just gotta listen to this.

This is St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church. I can guarantee you, given what's in the background, it's PCUSA, here you go.

Before we go further, I wanna acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too.

Defending trans Texas is something we have to do every day at the state capitol. And you better believe

I'll be giving sermons on that too. So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy.

Similar to how we specify anti -black racism when - Okay, so here's

Tallarico. And yes, he just said that the trans community needs abortion care.

Okay, so here's a man who hates language. Because words have meaning.

There is no trans community. There may be people who have sexual predilections and confusions and rebelling against God that get together and pretend to be a community, but there is no trans community because there is no such thing as transgenderism.

It's an impossibility, it's a fantasy. And it's a heartbreaking fantasy because so many people die.

Of disappointment when they believe the lie that there is such a thing as transitioning, when there isn't.

It doesn't happen, it can't happen. It's against the laws of nature. When I was in high school,

I would have loved to have played in the NBA, but ain't gonna happen. So he hates language.

And then of course, the very use of the term abortion care can only be said by a person who is either completely mind numbed or they have been so evacuated of morals and ethics that they're willing to rape the

English language. There's no such thing as abortion care. That's like saying right now, the

United States and Israel are giving Iran explosive care. Okay, it's the same thing.

Same meaning. Abortion involves the murder of a human being. And we're gonna look at some of his incredibly, again, he will never defend all this stuff because he knows he can't.

He knows it would be absolutely disastrous if he did. But can you imagine, I mean,

I debate him any day on any of these subjects, transgenderism, homosexuality, abortion, you bet.

But there are probably better people to do it. Can you imagine him debating Bob Gagnon? Not gonna happen.

Can you imagine debating Jeff Durbin? Yeah, I just, I don't know, the contrast of his baby face versus Jeff's beard, which is getting grayer and grayer with each passing week,

I noticed. I hope that has nothing to do with me, but it might. Yeah, those would be great, great, great, great, great debates to see.

But, so here's the next one. And again, I have to let it start, stop it, and then expand it.

That's just the only way that it works here. Dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, and expand.

And here we go. Trans children are God's children, made in God's own image.

There's nothing wrong with them, nothing at all. They are perfect, they are beautiful, and they are sacred.

Bullying children is immoral. It's a sin, a special kind of sin.

So trans children are made in the image of God. Utter blasphemy, and he should know it.

He could know it if he would have done any serious work on his masters of divinity.

But again, when you're in a leftist seminary, you are not encouraged to read widely or read historically.

The very sin and blasphemy of transgenderism is that it denies the image of God in mankind.

It denies to God his right to determine his own creation. Jesus himself said, from the beginning, he made them male and female.

That are the only categories, that's it. If Jesus is your ultimate authority, which of course in leftism is not the case.

But this is the abuse of a heretical form of Christianity to promote the idea that, well, you know, there's different viewpoints on this, you know?

I mean, we really don't know. I mean, yeah, you know, those folks, they quote Jesus, but he quotes

Jesus too. And can you see how now in our society, now that you're no longer taught how to think, but what to think, can you see how the people who've come out of the public educational system are gonna hear this and it's like, well,

I don't know. You know, there's good people on both sides. So I don't know, we really can't make a decision.

That type of thing. That's the whole purpose to all of this. It's not that anyone really takes it seriously, but yeah, that's who he is.

Now, I've got some more to play here real quick. Time's going by. But a guy, when

I was commenting on this, asked me a question.

I said I'd talk about it briefly on the program. He said, Redeemed Zumer argues that if I would leave this

PCUSA church, I would be guilty of the sin of schism. James, on what biblical ground would you justify leaving this church?

You cannot schism from heresy. You cannot schism from a church that denies the

Lordship of Jesus Christ, the inspiration of the scriptures, and his fundamental right to determine his own creation.

Okay? You cannot be accused of schism from the Temple of Baal, from the

Temple of Moloch. All right, schism takes place in the Christian church. And when someone says that the trans community deserves abortion rights, this is someone who has blood dripping from their hands, the murder of innocent children, and talking about sexual rebellion, and this is a church?

Yeah, church of the synagogue of Satan, but it's not a church. You can't schism from the synagogue of Satan.

So there's your biblical justification. I don't know how you got into the church in the first place, other than maybe it was just the tradition, and you all of a sudden woke up one day, and wow, it changed.

I understand that that kind of thing can happen. Okay, this is gonna be another one where I have to stop it.

In the Gospel of Thomas. Yeah, you know where this one's going. Okay, I don't know how many years ago it was in Storytime with Uncle Jimmy.

We read the Gospel of Thomas. It's only 114 sections long. It took us a little while, but we read through it.

Gave the background, the textual problems, minimal, minimal textual witness to be able to really determine original reading, things like that.

But the fact that this is a gospel that has been deeply influenced by the early Gnostic movement, and hence comes from a completely different worldview than Christianity or Judaism.

And then the Judeo -Christian worldview, which actually used to have meaning, and now people write books because they're so dumb, they don't understand what the meaning was in its original context.

Specifically, there is a worldview of a singular creator who makes all things and gives his law to his people and has the image of God.

And those are the things we're talking about when we talk about the combined testimony of the

Old Testament and New Testament together, okay? That worldview, Gnosticism denies. It doesn't come from that worldview, and it fundamentally denies that worldview.

That's what the Gospel of Thomas is, uh, infected with.

And we read to you the 114th section, the very last section of the

Gospel of Thomas. And at the time we explained, if you understand

Gnostic theology, if you go into the eons, if you understand that, for example, Sophia gave birth to Demiurge because she contemplated the one apart from her consort.

She's female, he's male. And this gave birth to Demiurge, which created the physical universe.

Okay, it's pretty complicated, isn't it? Yeah, Gnosticism is a mess. And it's completely separated, utterly, from biblical

Christianity in all forms, okay? It's just completely out there.

All right, so we did all that stuff. And put this on silent, it wasn't doing anything, but I, funny how your mind goes, you've got silence for him.

So we talked about all this stuff. Well, here he is, and he's going to try to bring in the

Gospel of Thomas. Now again, not uncommon in leftist seminaries.

Rehabilitating Gnosticism is great for them because they're trying to redefine the Christian faith.

Anyways, they hate the Christian faith. They want to redefine it. They've apostatized from it, denied it.

So why not bring the Gospel of Thomas in? Cool, funsville. Now, there is only one truly encouraging thing about what

I'm seeing in this video, and watch for yourself. I see exactly one person in this audience that's under 60 years of age.

And that's pretty much true of the PCUSA. The PCUSA is dying. Well -deserved death.

But remember, Union Theological Seminary died 125 years ago, and it's still walking around.

It's the Walker Seminary. It's the walking dead. That's what they are.

So they just keep on going and keep on inhabiting the buildings that believers built a long time ago, and running off the money that they donated a long time ago.

So here's Tallarico and the Gospel of Thomas. In the Gospel of Thomas, which was later omitted from the

Bible by church officials. Okay, I got to stop there.

I'm sorry. Again, he would never debate this type of stuff. That is a bald -faced lie.

It is a lie. Completely. The Gospel of Thomas was never considered canonical by anybody but the

Gnostics. You will not find the Gospel of Thomas in any manuscripts.

When you first, you know, for example, we do textual criticism around here. We talk about the earliest manuscripts like P66, P75.

P45, right there, okay? The earliest manuscript we have that has portions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts.

Any Gospel of Thomas? Nope, nope. It was never considered, never discussed.

It was another religion. So to say was, what was the term that he used?

Was it deleted? This is such a short clip. Let's find out again. In the Gospel of Thomas, which was later omitted from the

Bible. Later omitted from the Bible. Well, if you mean that all books outside of the canonical books were omitted from the

Bible, then you can say everything was omitted from the Bible. But he's trying to say something here.

That maybe it shouldn't have been omitted from the Bible. That would tell you a lot right there.

But nothing was omitted. No one ever suggested that this concoction of insanity should have been included.

But leftists, wackos to this day, love talking about the Gospel of Thomas and the

Nag Hammadi Library and the Apocrypha of John. People love throwing stuff out there, rehabilitating stuff that died a long, long time ago.

Because it allows them to publish papers and to fundamentally undercut the authority of the teaching of Scripture itself, which they don't believe anyway.

So yeah, there you go. By church officials. I'd like to know what church officials, specifically, that was.

The Gospel of Thomas quotes Jesus as saying, when you make the male and female one in the same, when the male is not male, when the female is not female, then you will enter the kingdom of God.

Isn't that wise? Isn't that deep? No, it's neither of those things. And if you understand the eons and their consorts and what happened with Sophia, you realize this has nothing to do with Christianity.

So what is this guy doing talking to these people? Well, he's confusing them. That's all he's doing.

They're simple people and they don't have a foundation and they don't have anybody to lead them.

And so wolves like this come in amongst the sheep and he is a wolf. James Tallarico is a wolf.

There's an absolutely no question about that. He is one of those described in Acts chapter 20 along those lines.

Okay. And then, hey, Joe Rogan, here we go. Let's -

But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion. Okay. But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation,

God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke.

I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do.

And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be, let it happen. So to me, that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent.

You cannot force someone to create. Creation is one of the most sacred acts that we engage in as human beings, but that has to be done with consent.

It has to be done with freedom. And to me, that is absolutely consistent with the ministry and life and death of Jesus.

And so that's why I, that's how I come down on that side of the issue. So what he's saying is he twists the story and Catholics do the same thing.

Catholics do the same thing. There could not have been redemption without Mary's yes. No, it was announced to her what was going to happen.

That's not a matter of forced. She submits to God's will, but that is not some asking her permission type thing.

And so he twists the story all to justify the murder of unborn children.

That is the perversity of this. They know that they cannot win the battle if you recognize the humanity of the unborn child.

They can't. And so they constantly focus upon the woman.

And then they treat the sex act as if it's just an automatic given.

Everybody gets to do that whenever they want to in whatever context they want. And so that's the place of choice, okay?

That's why a rapist should be executed. Capital punishment, done.

Not 20 years later, 20 days later. That's why it should happen.

I mean, you see this stuff going on right now. Did you see the story? A guy murdered a woman at a bus stop.

He had been arrested 131 times. 131 times.

And now she's dead. And he will not be executed. He will be given three squares a day.

And if he decides he's female, the taxpayers will have to pay for breast implants.

That's how insane this culture has become. That's how under God's judgment.

You want to talk about being turned over? There it is. This, Tolerico is the example of how

God is turning this culture over to its own self -destruction. But the choice is at the point of consent in regards to intercourse, not once the child exists.

That's a separate body. That's a separate human being. We know this. We know this theologically.

We know this philosophically. We know this scientifically. That's a different body.

It's a different genetic code. We know more about the developing child than any generation before us has.

And that's why we have blood all over our hands is because we have no excuse. The womb has a window now.

We have 3D color movies of the development of the child in the womb now.

They didn't have that 100 years ago. We have it now. We have no excuses, none, zero.

So that's where the choice is, not in the choice to murder. And you have to be a moral and ethical pygmy to not understand that.

You have to be so compromised in your worldview. And here is a religious man that claims to be a follower of Christ, and yet he can hold a worldview that is the exact opposite of Christ.

And consider that a good thing. Consider that a good thing. Now, I can't help but remember,

I've seen Bob Gagnon debate one time in Scottsdale when he debated Dr.

Kirk. On this subject, not abortion, on homosexuality. And whether Presbyterians should be an affirming group.

And I'll never forget, I've told you the story before, but just to remind you, Kirk stood up there, and he had already said that the reason we should see homosexuals as our brothers and sisters in Christ is because, just as when the gospel went out, the

Gentiles, that involved the Holy Spirit opening people's hearts and minds to this new thing he's doing. And the new thing that he's doing now is he's expanding beyond what they understood in the first century.

And so he's expanding beyond Paul, he's expanding beyond 1 Corinthians 6, and 1

Timothy 1, and Romans 1, and all that was back then, but the Spirit's moving beyond that.

And then, in the back and forth, he literally said, and we need to remember,

Jesus was a first century Jew. And so he was limited in his understanding to that of a first century

Jew. We have to get past it. Okay, there's this garbage, this heresy from hell, there it is.

When you gotta get past Jesus, yeah, that tells you something right there. It really, really does.

All right, how many more of these do I have? I have, I got two.

I'm just gonna end up taking more than half the program. Sorry about that. But I think this is important.

I mean, my own state has sent two wackos to the Senate. We can't get anything done.

The legislative branch of the government of the United States is worthless. That's my opinion.

It'll never accomplish anything. All they do is go up there and pass bills that never end up as law.

The Republicans, worthless. The Democrats just hate America and they'll do everything to destroy it and are pretty close to accomplishing their goals right now.

And so the legislative branch is dead, which is why the executive has taken over. And we can't survive this.

The left will take over the White House again. And at that point in time, all future elections will be irrelevant.

In my, that's my opinion. That's what I see coming. But who you send to the

Senate is sort of important. And when you send people like this who are crippled ethically and morally while claiming to hold the higher ground, that impacts all of us.

This election in Texas impacts all of us. So yeah.

For me, prophetic voices. Okay, thankfully, these are all really short. This is like 13 seconds.

I like that. But man, this guy's gonna, I would like to hope that eventually he's gonna go, man,

I wish I hadn't opened my mouth as often as I did in front of a camera. But here we go.

For me, prophetic voices like Jesus have helped me reckon with my own whiteness, my own masculinity, my own certainty, my own ego.

It's a never -ending process and it's a painful process. Prophetic voices like Jesus.

Yeah, my own whiteness. Yeah, it's a horrible disease.

So he sees a racist, a real kind of racist, not the fake racist, but real racist that would talk about whiteness.

That experience. And this last one here, whoa, this last one is a minute and 23 seconds long.

But this one tells you some stuff too. So we'll finish up with this one and get back to the debate.

That experience radicalized my mom. She became an activist for women's rights, volunteering with Planned Parenthood and TAROL, the

Texas Abortion Rights Action League. And I remember going to the TAROL offices after school because mom was helping to organize their big annual event,

Celebration of Choice. Now that word, choice, that word meant so much to my mom.

Choice meant consent. Choice meant power. Choice meant freedom.

I remember when we were driving home from nights at the TAROL office, as the passenger seat, mom would turn to me and she would remind me, women will never be free until they belong to themselves.

Women will never be free until they belong to themselves. The disagreement about the legality of abortion is not a disagreement about life.

It's a disagreement about personhood. No one disagrees that an embryo is biologically alive.

We each have trillions of living organisms inside of us right now, as we sit and talk in the sanctuary.

So the question is, is an embryo a legal person whose rights trump those of a woman?

I'm having to be self -controlled here. This man is so vile. This worldview is so vile.

Hatred of language, the twisting of language. We have trillions of beings living inside us.

You don't have human beings, you moron. You moral pygmy. Who are you lying to?

How evidently, maybe this kid, and he does seem like a kid, maybe this kid is just simply the mind -numb zombie of a mother who he was just describing as running around out there, wanting to kill all the babies she can find, okay?

And maybe that just pretty much wipes you out. Okay, I get it. He was just saying, that's what she's doing.

Planned Parenthood, TAROL, which is, you know, NAROL is the national group. TAROL, the

Texas group. But you have bacteria living in you.

Are you comparing the baby to bacteria? Are you?

Sounds like it. Well, it's biologically alive. Well, what is it?

Is it canine, feline, bovine, or might it be human?

We can determine this. Where did it come from? Oh, it came from the sex act of a male and female human.

That makes it a biologically alive human. Oh, wow.

We finally figured it out, didn't we? We've known it all along. We've known it all along.

You have to go through a lot of schooling and years and years of wiping your brain of common sense to come up with this kind of thinking, come up with this kind of vile, destructive thinking.

It is disgusting. It truly is. Now, we see this, there's nothing new here.

This stuff has been being said all along, but now we see it with a little more clarity because this guy wants to go to the

Senate and make us listen to this kind of anti -Christian drivel being presented as the

Christian faith for six years, minimally. You want that?

Well, looks like it could happen. Well, yeah,

Adrian Warnock, and almost nobody said anything about Adrian Warnock because he was the wrong color and because the time of COVID.

And everything else. So the baby's rights trump those of a woman.

How about of a mother? Oh, we don't want to talk about mothers. You see, once you kill that baby, she doesn't cease being a mother.

She's just the mother of a dead child. Oh my goodness.

What a world we live in. The evil around us is truly astonishing.

And, you know, those of you in Texas, what are you going to do?

What are you going to do? My understanding is that the Republicans, the

Republican candidate is a moral mess. It's just a horrible moral mess.

This guy's probably going to win despite all this stuff. Another situation where you're left with nobody to vote for.

And that is an example of God's judgment on a nation.

That's all there is to it. We could see Texas go blue.

We really could. We really could. And if that happens, well, guess all that, you know, for a long, long time, people were going, oh, are you tired of winning yet?

Man, we're winning, we're winning. Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We weren't winning in any of it, in any of it, because it didn't come from the heart.

It didn't come from repentance. It didn't come from a changed understanding of the world. That's not winning.

That's a Band -Aid on a gunshot wound. Okay, that's not going to do anything.

It's not going to do anything. What? What's going on here?

All of a sudden, my following thing went crazy. And just in,

President Trump has changed his true social post where he suggested that children should be allowed to transition genders with approval from their parents.

Yeah, oh, look at this. Before, it said no transgender mutilation surgery for children without the express written approval of the parents.

Now, no transgender mutilation surgery for children. I'm sorry.

When you can make Paula White your White House faith leader, you don't have a

Christian worldview. You don't have a Christian morality. You don't, and Trump doesn't.

Can we at least be honest about that? Can we at least say that that's the case? Some people don't seem to think that you can do that.

Okay, well, I didn't expect to spend that amount of time. But when you hear someone claiming to be

Christian, you know, I've never, I had

PCUSA professors at Fuller Theological Seminary, but that was in the 1980s. PCUSA was way to the left by then, but not where it is now.

And one of my favorite professors, he was sharp, good.

He was even good at expressing a range of perspectives. He knew

I was a conservative. He never made me feel badly about that. He always interacted with me, and not in a condescending way either.

He knew I was listening. I've told you a story. He was the one, my Pentateuch teacher, where he had to write the reviews.

Remember, I've told this story. Algo has heard it 20 times now. Where he had to write reviews of these commentaries, and my review of Gerhard von

Roth's commentary on Deuteronomy, he had to put the positives and the negatives. The only positive thing I come up with commentary was this book had a very nice binding.

I got a 98 on the review, because when I criticized it, I demonstrated I had read it.

I don't think that would happen at Fuller today. No possible way. But it did happen back then, so yeah, that was good.

Anyway, so I had a lot of, most of the professors there, in fact, the last class

I had at Fuller was an ethics class. And at one point in that class, the professor came out from behind the podium, sat down in a chair, turned toward mine, and we debated abortion.

For the whole class. So that's how far to the left my initial seminary education was.

And so I learned to take the meat and spit out the bones in that type of a context.

And so, but I've always wondered, once you get to this point, why do you even bother to talk about Jesus?

You don't believe what he taught. You're embarrassed by his claims. You're embarrassed by his actions.

You're embarrassed by his law. You're embarrassed by his disciples, his apostles. You're embarrassed by all of it.

Why even bother? And the only answer is, it's a plague on the nation.

There is no clear Christian testimony in the United States today. Every time

End Abortion Now goes to a state legislature to testify and bring the gospel to bear, all the other side has to do is bring in their

PCUSA ministers, their United Methodist ministers, their Episcopalian ministers, and say, this is, we're the mainstream denominations.

We're the respectable denominations. We're the denominations that are dying and disappearing and won't be here in 30 years, but there you go.

That's what it's all about. So, yeah. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and address this because we've only got 11 minutes left in the program anyways.

This is really weird. There was a guy, let me see here if I can find the original.

Probably won't be able to find it here because there's been some back and forth on this subject, but someone referred to Taco Talks and evidently

Taco Talks is a Christian apologist, non -Roman Catholic.

And I don't, I'm sorry, I've never heard of him. I've asked other people.

Have you ever heard of Richard? I've asked a bunch of other people. Have you ever heard of this guy? Nobody.

So I looked at his YouTube channel briefly and yeah, here it is.

Yeah, here it is. So a guy named, okay. So I had responded to Bishop Jacksy, who again is one of the worst of the

Catholic apologists online. Very shallow, doesn't know anything about what he's talking about.

Doesn't listen to the other side at all. And he had, to be prompt, the lesson is to believe every

Christian before you was wrong and that you alone with your study Bible finally got it right. Well, that's just, that's not even hardly worth even reading.

That's not serious. He's not, he hasn't read Good, Whitaker, Calvin, anybody.

He's just an ignorant, ignorant person trying to get clicks. The internet's full of it on both sides.

The internet's full of it. And so I had said, just a reminder of how shallow most

Romanist ex apologists are, just note the past few dividing lines where we listened and interacted with the

Heshmeyer -Hansen debate for sufficient rebuttal of this childishness. And yeah, that's just one, that's just the current example.

We have interacted with history, Roman Catholic teaching, papacy. Joe Heshmeyer's claims,

Irenaeus, Ignatius. Here were the three offices. Nope, there weren't three offices, not the way you understand them.

We had gone through all that and doing it with Mormonism too. So in other words, we demonstrate a knowledge of the positions that we critique.

And Bishop Jackson, he has no knowledge of the positions he critiques.

It's just surface level childishness. So someone I think named Catholic Maximus said, you can't deny that Bishop Jackson has a point here, sir.

Have you not seen the post by the current leader of the Protestant movement that goes by the name

Taco Talks? And I'll add that he's a Calvinist like yourself. And I'm like, he's the leader of the

Protestant movement? I didn't know we had one. What is the

Protestant movement that he's leading, who elected him? And so I tracked the guy down.

If he's 30, I'd be surprised. He's young. And I haven't had time to listen to his stuff.

I mean, the few things I listened to seemed all right, but I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to put the guy down.

I'm really not. I want to encourage young guys who are doing solid work, especially if they're in the church, doing it in cooperation with the church, not just seeking their own stuff.

I did notice he's got this store and all this Taco Talks stuff. And it seemed like he's pretty much focused just on YouTube videos, which, okay,

I guess that's where we are now. I've got plenty of YouTube videos, but not this kind of stuff.

So I don't know. I'm not trying to put the guy down, but he seems very young. And I doubt he's ever taught anywhere.

I don't see any basis for believing he's graduated from any meaningful programs or gotten any kind of basis like that.

I don't know. But here's this guy and he's the current leader of the

Protestant movement. And I said, what, the what, who?

Current leader of the Protestant movement? You are kidding, right? And he responded with Trent Horn interviewed him.

So if Trent Horn interviews you, you become the leader of the Protestant movement? So if I interviewed you, would you become the

Pope? Right? It's just as silly. It's just as vacuous as this.

And so this guy named Gorilla Lawyer says, well, he's got more social media followers than you.

He makes a lot of noise. Accuracy isn't his concern. Historically, that's been plenty sufficient qualification for a many leader's past, secular or otherwise.

Okay, so your social media following is how you become the leader of a church now.

So we need to find who has the most followers on X, and they're the new

Pope. No more conclaves, no more cardinals, right? It's just,

I mean, people really think like this. They honestly do. And some guys even made reference to some kind of, and I responded,

I says, you're arguing credentials. I'm describing influence. Same rules as always, attention sets the agenda.

The medium changed. Presidents get elected by writing it. Governments have been toppled by organizing through it.

Refuse the medium, forfeit the audience, opt out, get voted out. Well, what an interesting view of the church.

What an interesting view of the Protestant movement, whatever in the world that is. I have no real idea what that is.

There is no such thing. I mean, that's just a fiction. You couldn't define it if your life depended on it.

But that's where we are. This is the kind of thinking of our society today.

The number of followers you've got determines your truth. If Grok agrees with you, then you must be speaking the truth, right?

I mean, it's just like, I look at this kind of stuff and I scratch my head and I go,

I'm outside of a massive work of regeneration.

I don't see how we can avoid the takeover by the technocratic autocrats.

That we already know what they did to us during COVID. We already know that there are people who did horrible, horrible things resulting in the deaths.

A lot of people I know, they'll never be held responsible. They'll never be held accountable. They suppressed data.

They suppressed medical results. And they'll do it again because they're still in control.

No one will hold them accountable. That looks like judgment to me. That's a good description of being turned over to the enemy of your soul.

And so, forgive my negativity. I'm just being a realist. And everybody's like, well, but God's still in control.

I know God's still in control. He was in control the day before the Black Plague broke out, people. Wasn't he?

Yes, he was. And he brought judgment on half the population of Europe.

Didn't he? We seem to forget these things. We don't want to be reminded of it.

Yeah. Yeah, JS's social media account wasn't all that good on the day of Pentecost, to be sure.

Yeah. But anyway, just amazing to try to interact with people and realize how effectively the

American de -education system has been in causing people to be able to be so easily manipulated, so easily controlled by argumentation that even 50 years ago would have been laughed right out of the room.

But now it's taken seriously. So anyway, so pray for Christians in Texas.

You guys especially have an opportunity here. The things he's bringing up are important things.

Address them directly. Don't apologize for what the word says. Lay it out there.

His position is incoherent. It is indefensible. Read the

Gospel of Thomas for yourself. Demonstrate what its historical background is. And tell people.

Use it as an opportunity. Only way to do it. Only way to do it. I think that's the way to get things done.

All right. Well, I wasn't gonna spend the whole program on that, but we've still got the

Sermon on the Grove to do. We've still got the rest of the cross -examination to do. We will get back to it as time allows.