In other words, the degree that I find myself attached to certain desires is the degree my life is exposed to suffering, and the whole thing is if I could just remove myself from all thought, all desire, and just find ultimately nirvana, as he looked at it in a sense there, this high state of being free of all things around me, and all of the thought, and that there was a way out of the suffering, and it was ultimately to eliminate my attachment to these desires, and that he had an eightfold path on how you kind of go through these contemplative things, and finally thereafter, some four years sitting out there, the great amounts of times under a tree, contemplating, he became enlightened, and so he changed his name to Buddha, the awakened, and out of that there, with all of these things, just trying to contemplate, working to nirvana, this is something there, it's just man, just there, man speaking, man contemplating, man imagining, and yet billions of people have looked there and said, I believe that, they're willing to risk their whole identity, their life, their eternal life, their entire existence on this fella who is very troubled, even all the way through his life trying to find greater heights of awakening and enlightenment, never knew if he did it of course, but becoming this kind of a person there that is fully escaped, you know, the interesting thing to me, you look at this Buddha, and if you've ever seen these Buddhas, I mean, there's a little fat guy sitting there, you know, and the thing there, and he did not escape a lot of worldly desires to become that fat, I can tell you, but the, but when you look at this, and here's what the man ended up, but this is the thing that we realize, billions of people, this is how they live, this is what they actually think about, what they desire, you look at Hinduism, started of course approximately, they say going back 6 ,000 is what they want to attribute it to, BC, but no way that that is there, but predominantly of course it was born in and grew in India, and it is kind of the, again, the contemplated, the escaping the world around us, all of this stuff out there is wicked, it's bad, it's no good, stay away, you know, from this worldly life, worldly desire, worldly physical world of which there are definitely trues to some of these thinkings, but at the same time, when you just simply, it doesn't exist, I've got to get out of it, I'm going again to Nirvana as they, you know, believe much the same thing, only unlike Buddhism, it's, I suppose, Hinduism's a little more convenient because you get a lot of shots at kind of achieving Nirvana because you keep, with reincarnation, it adds that in, so you keep on working your way up, and that's why you want to be nice to dogs and flies and cows, you know, and stuff, because it just might be you someday, or it might be your mother or your grandma, or who knows who's on their way up or down, and they don't even know what is the higher or lower life forms anyway, but they're all, we're all coming back, and again, working our way to Nirvana, and yet you look at the billions of people, this is their religion, and it's all man -dreamed, not even supposed to say God said, God spoke, has no authority to it, no foundation or basis that the mind can grab onto this and say, that has got to be true, it just seems, then on the other hand, you go like to Islam, that again, billions of people, over since around 500 A .D., 600 A .D., you know, and Mohammed comes along, and here's somebody there that essentially invented his own religion, proclaimed himself to be the messenger and the spokesman of God, he's the ultimate one, he is the central one, in all other definition, though others may have been around, whatever they said is true insofar as it agrees with him, but if it doesn't agree, he's the great and the ultimate prophet of God, and therefore, that's it, and so now he simply speaks for God, and yet billions of people, there is, he was born in Mecca, and so there he conveniently set up Mecca, now Saudi Arabia, there is where it's all born, and where it all happened, and Mohammed spoke, you know, Buddha spoke, you know, and all of these just people inventing something to find their hopefully a way out of the world as it was, and one of them, whether we're gonna get out of the world or Islam, we will take over the world, we'll fix the whole world by its power or whatever else, and when you look at Christianity, it is absolutely unique in the sense that all of the other religions, they're man contemplating, reaching out, trying to figure out, and they're essentially inventing God, but when you pick up your Bible, you're picking up a book that God spoke, this unbelievably wonderful book there where when it just says God, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, when we pick up this Bible, we're so used to just talking about the son of man came to seek and to save those which were lost, here is the writer of Hebrews again, the God who in sundry times, diverse manners, he spake unto us, he says by his prophets, unto the fathers by his prophets, and here is, he looks there and he says in sundry times and diverse manners, he's looking there and he says over something, when you pick up this book, you're looking at a book with some 66 books written by 40 plus writers over 1500 years, no single authority for it, no single voice for it, other than the voice of God himself, that is merely just picking up and sustaining and having all of these to me, it's almost, I look at the Bible so much, almost like a bicycle tire in the sense that you've got all the 1500 years, you've got 40 spokes, you know, sort of a thing, all coming down to one truth, outside of all of them themselves, they're just one truth, one prophecy, one thing is that all ultimately finds its fulfillment in Christ, but it makes itself absolutely unique because at sundry times and diverse manners, it means essentially they're in different times, when you pick up the Old Testament, it's made up of what we call law, history, prophecy and poetry, all these wonderful statements about the coming of a Messiah, of a savior, the God who had created the world and is now going to visit it and to recreate it in his mercy and in his love and in his powers, it's laid out and prophesied over and over, in sundry times and diverse manners, sometimes he spoke there with visions or with parables and different manners or types and symbols and many different ways of which, but it was all God speaking, all God communicating there, as Peter tells us in 2 Peter 121, he says, for prophecy came neither by the will of men, but by holy men of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit, and here when you have all of these different characters out of different times and different places in history, all of which are given one little piece to a puzzle, to a puzzle, to a puzzle, to a puzzle, you begin to realize that there is a genius, there is a mind behind this book of which only, you know, little pieces are given here and there which prove that the puzzle is being put together by something way outside of itself, it is nobody inventing anything, it is merely the inventor himself revealing himself in a way that defies human invention, it says it could not have been done by any other way than it, and as Paul told Timothy, he says all scripture is given by inspiration of God, it is God speaking to man, that's the essential, that puts this book in a different category than any other book, it not only says God spoke and spoke and spoke and spoke, but it proves it in such a way as it's undeniable when somebody would begin to look at the prophecies that were even given, prophecies at the time that didn't even make sense to the very ones that gave them, as they only had a piece of the puzzle, when somebody say, oh, you understand it, they said, no, I don't, I got an idea, I got my own impressions of it, but I don't know how it fits, that's why 1 Peter 1 .10, Peter writes, he says, of this salvation the prophets have inquired and carefully searched who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, he says, even the ones themselves as they gave these truths, as they gave their message, what God gave them, they searched trying to figure out, how does this work, how does this fit, it's almost as if there was somebody making this project of which each person just has, here, you design this, you build this, you build this, and they're all given the specs for this, and they're all saying they know they're making something huge, but they have no idea because there's a genius behind it that says, I'm making it, and I'm gonna let all of you have a part in it, and when we put it together, you'll all sit back and realize the fact of the genius there that put it all together beyond any individual, that's why it was that the woman at the well, when there she spoke to Jesus, she said to him, I know that the Messiah is coming who is called the Christ, for when he comes, he will tell us all things, the mind there of anybody picking up this Old Testament and reading it was realizing that a Messiah is going to come that has been laid out, talked about, prophesied, all of the prophets of old, as they were putting this together, they're all waiting, when is this Messiah going to come, because when he does, he will tell us all things, and then there was something, though at the time, Noah, he prophesied, he lets us know the quarter of the world from which the Messiah was come, that was his part, Abraham tells us the nation of the Messiah, Jacob tells us the tribe that the Messiah will come from, David and Isaiah tell us the family that the Messiah will come from, Micah tells us the town that he will come from, Daniel, the time of his birth, Malachi tells us of his forerunner that will come, Jonah typifies the resurrection of the Messiah, as all of them are given these little bits and pieces that when finally Christ comes, what prophet could ever determine I'm going to be born at this time to this family, in this city, in this place, in Bethlehem, all of this, this is something that could only have been orchestrated outside the creation, something there that then when it happened, you had to stand back and say, whoever put this project together is God speaking, this separates Christianity from all other, there is no religion that ever imagined to do such a project, but this is how God has his great authority that when he then speaks, that's why even in the Old Testament, God instructed the children of Israel, if any man ever comes and supposes to speak a prophecy from me, and it does not come true, we have a very simple solution, kill him, because you kill him, you'll stone him because of the fact that he lied, and he deceived people because I'll never lie to you, everything I say to happen will happen, and it did, and all of the Old Testament, all these types, all these symbols, God speaking, sundry times and diverse manners there, all bits and pieces ultimately fulfilled in Christ, that's why Jesus told the Pharisees one time, he says, you know, you search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life, but they are they that speak of me, I am the fulfillment of all of these things that have been said about me before I came, so when I came, it was undebatable who I am, he's greater in all ways, greater, of course, than all of the prophets, greater in the sense that they all just had bits and pieces, he is the complete picture of which they dreamed of, and they inquired of, he's greater by instrument in the sense that in the Old Testament, just sinful people talking about one who would deal with sin, ultimately when he came, but when he came, we have the son, the perfect son himself speaking, he's greater in time, here as he says, God with sundry times and diverse manners spoken unto us in times past, but he says, now hath in these last days spoken unto us by his son, and here it is there where God is revealing and speaking and saying this is from me, and this is how you'll know it is me, and then the writer here of Hebrews then goes on to tell us who the Messiah is, who Jesus Christ is, who the son is, because you know, of course, many people, he's a teacher, or he's a fanatic, or he's a phony, or he's a fraud, or he's a criminal, or he's some sort of a radical revolutionary, or he's somebody there that just, you know, had a great spark within him like we all have of good and he just fanned his really intently and really harder than most and was very good, but here, the Bible, God says, I want to tell you exactly who it all that was prophesied all the way through these Old Testament, all these sundry times and diverse manners, here is who he is that came into the world, so there's no debate about it as far as the Bible is concerned, and he gives us a list here, he says, for he's last days spoken unto us by his son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.