Whatever Happens Next Do Not Comply — Shane Idleman

Whatever Happens Next, Do Not Comply

The title is, Whatever Happens Next, Do Not Comply. And boy, the enemy was working overtime on this one. I don't know if you follow the Christian Post or the stream .org. If you've heard of James Robinson as well, he's a friend of mine.

He texted me, or actually called me. He read the article and loved it. And so we have this big push. We're going live. Live, so people can hear this message. And guess what? Our Internet's down today.

Or the live stream. So you're the only ones hearing this. Unless we release it later, of course. But it's just funny. And then we have all kinds of sound issues we gotta work on after the service. It's just, and other distractions I won't go into.

But the enemy wants to discourage God's people. And that's, we need to fight through that. We need to humble ourselves and get back up and keep fighting again. Now I actually wrote an article by the same name, Whatever Happens Next, Do Not Comply.

Oh, I forgot to tell you. Next Sunday, a fireman who was part of 9 -11 actually is going to be here speaking. And worship from Ireland, special guest worship from Ireland is going to be here. So make sure you're here next Sunday.

I'll actually be in Torrance. I'm speaking in Torrance at a church in Los Angeles. If you know any friends, I believe it's called Rolling Hills Covenant Church. It's been there a long time. Solid. It was kind of going in a woke direction.

And that changed the last couple years. It's been hard to get it back on track. And I've been going down there every six months or so and speaking. Just a great body of believers. I love their, it feels like here, kind of, you know, you know those churches.

And when I spoke in Dallas, Texas, Jeff Wickwire, his church feels just like this too. You can tell, you know, isn't it funny? You can tell that the living churches and God's people, and then you get to others, it's like, you know, frozen chosen.

And they're judging you. And so it's just a benefit to be there. And then my wife and I are heading to San Diego to be part of something called Turning Point USA Faith. I don't know if you've heard of that.

So yeah, Charlie Kirk's group put together a large pastors conference. And I'm one of the panels there to talk. And this is going to be one of the topics. So you're going to hear some of the key elements of it right now.

Submission to Authority and the Limits of Compliance

But I want to say up front, whatever happens next, do not comply. The rebel in me claps really loud and go get them, Shane. You know, but here's what's challenging. We're actually supposed to comply. Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2, you know, it talks about submitting to the governing authorities.

And so our attitude should be erring on the side of grace. And OK, we comply, we submit. But when the government becomes evil and deceptive and tells us to do things that are against God's word, that's where we have to take a stand.

So on the on the surface, on the surface, that title is a little it's in your face, you know, a little bold. But that's what people like. I remember the first day I just posted the title. There's like fourteen hundred shares.

People like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, OK, hold on, hold on. Let's bring it back. You know, we're not Mel Gibson in Braveheart here. Let's let's back it up a little bit. But you know what?

I've got to say something up front that a friend of mine brought to my attention in the prayer room. And I've known this for 20 years. And I can't believe I didn't mention it at the first service. And that was when we read Romans 13, it's under Roman authority, right?

Roman Caesar was God. And China, North Korea, you have the same things. And I agree with this position to mostly. And we just have to be careful with it. America is the only government in the nation where I mean, the world where actually you are the governing authorities in the sense what the Constitution says, if we the people.

So the government is actually servants of the people. And I knew that I just forgot, like, yeah, obviously. But so it doesn't change the context of the verse, of course. But it gives you a different insight to where our Constitution actually says we have we can push back if the servants are out of order, then we were.

So do I follow the Constitution or do I follow Biden? You know, see, that's where it's so when they start to separate their the revolutionary war that happened, it wasn't just a bunch of farmers with pitchforks.

It was what they call the the the law of the lesser magistrate. So the governing officials that were here, John Adams, Samuel Adams, you know, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, all those officials, they were governing officials.

They rebelled against Great Britain. So there's a misconception. People think, oh, it's just a bunch of people being rebellious. No, it's it's the governing officials here forced the hand of Great Britain.

And that's where the American Revolution came from. Seventeen seventy six or so. There's a lot to that. But they fought to give if we the people. So we aren't technically a the governing body, but we are we are a government that elects representatives.

That's why we're actually we're not a democracy, true democracy. We are a republic. So we appoint people. We appoint people as servants. That's why they used to be called statesmen. They thought about the next generation, not the next election.

So these statesmen that we appoint to represent our will. And that's what the Constitution says. That's our governing document. And that's critical in understanding, because Romans under Nero, that that was it.

There's no other if by the people for the people. And so we when I get to Romans 13, just keep that in mind that we have a different dynamic working here again. It doesn't change the application of the Bible.

It doesn't mean, OK, well, that doesn't apply to us. It still applies to us. But you have to understand that we have a higher authority God. And I don't believe when you say divinely inspired, I mean, only the Bible is divinely inspired.

But if you read the founders works, you read the Constitutional Convention that happened to form the Constitution. You see that they quoted the Bible four times more than any other source. Half of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were ministers of the gospel.

You see that God was throughout. You see that you couldn't even run for office without a belief in God and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. You see that God was all throughout that our early founding.

And so you can't say that God inspired these people to write the Constitution because it's a separation of powers, executive judicial, executive judicial and legislation branches of the government. And it was actually to protect the people.

And so if you understand all that, you can see more. I mean, it was Benjamin Franklin. They're they're they're all having. They just couldn't come to a consensus. And if you read, it's interesting, you read their journals and the different writings.

It's funny, they were all on the same side of morality. Well, see, that's a big divide now. We've the Democratic Republic Party. That's no longer about paving roads and building buildings and budgeting.

It's about moral issues. Huge more. They were never divided over moral issues. Sin was sin. From marriage to transgender to abortion, I mean, they all agreed on that. But then now we've broken those those that unity in those areas and now we are so divided, unlike anything we've ever seen before.

So Benjamin Franklin actually said, hold on, men. Let's call a prayer and fasting meeting. And he said, if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without God's notice, is it probable that an empire can be rose up without his aid?

And they actually use Tom, I believe, remember his first name, Locke. Locke's book on the governing, how to write up a government. And there are 1600 references of the Bible, Blackstone's commentaries of the laws of New England that they were using, reference scripture for every law they had.

And let me tell you, crime is a lot less when the punishment fits it. Like things that people just get a slap on right now. You were you were toast. You rape and you hurt a child death penalty. That's just the way it was.

Gary, I understand grace and love and all the things, but if you if you don't have the the the the the punishment fit the crime and you dumb down these things. That's where we're running into trouble.

You see all these videos of people just running into stores. You think you think that's not you think that's just going to stop? That's going to that's going to just feed more and more and more. Look at what we can get away with.

Look what we can get away with. It's just the decadence of society. And so many leaders have their heads stuck in the sand on these issues. But you have to get back to God. We have to start there. Republican, Democrat, whatever you want to call yourself.

You've got to get back to God. And that's why we say it's about principles. It's about principles, principles. Not necessarily parties, principles. For example, one, I think he's right under Gascon, right under the D .A.

He's going to be in our area. I've been asked to go and pray at the event. He's registered Democrat, but everything he believes is biblical. So that's interesting. Like, you know, so you you you look at and he's wanting to unseat him because of all the that just you're protecting the criminal and and and hurting the victim.

By these things, because I believe you can still have good, good police force. You can have jails that do the the right thing. And you can do all these without having to capitulate and hurt good people.

Biblical Transformation in Prisons and Society

What about what about if prisons would let the Bible back in to the degree they used to and let chaplains? Oh, they do that. Yeah, but they also don't really promote it. A lot of them shy away from it.

Depends on who the lieutenant is and different things. I've tried to get into a lot of prisons. Some are, but some some don't. I remember a story. It's one of the worst prisons in the in the I think the Bible Belt.

Years ago, they had documentary on it and how they brought in the Bible, the word of God and teaching and discipleship. And all that there was no more fights breaking out. People are becoming pastors in the church and the prison.

They said it's a completely whole different environment because, see, you have to change the heart. You have to change the heart of the person. And so that's kind of the underpinning. And I won't be able to get through all the notes.

Resisting Harmful Mandates Without Fear or Anger

I'll tell you right now up front. But let me just state up front, it appears what what happens next. Do not comply. What I mean by that is that if you look at different places, mask mandates are coming back.

I think it was Lionsgate who was acquiring it in Hollywood and contract tracing, pushing the vaccine. I've got all of this information in my article for you. President Biden was even going to ask Congress about developing new vaccines, requiring shots for all Americans.

And so I thought, you know what, we need to speak on this issue because in many cases we are to comply. But when compliance becomes capitulation, which means surrendering what we know to be right, then we are operating in fear, not faith.

So that's that's the key. Yes, we comply as Christians. We we submit. We we recognize those in positions of leadership. We respect the position. But when they start to do things that are unhealthy and harmful, or against God's word, we have to really take a step back and handle it the right way.

Did you know that a lot of people avoided dying in the fires? And why? Because they they didn't listen to the police and stay in the barricades. They broke those barricades and went out like the water, actually, and saved their lives.

Now, I don't think the police were trying to be bad. They're trying to enforce, you know, they just didn't know. But sometimes the complying is is is dangerous and harmful. For me, don't even give a start on this, but having kids wear masks all day.

I mean, you know, it's just not in how that breeds disease and contamination and things like that. And and really, really, again, I don't want to go into that and and get into the weeds there. But we know that something could be coming because of all these new pushes.

Just this weekend, have you seen where New York is required or they're asking all citizens to wear masks for the holiday weekend? And wanting to I don't know, maybe elections coming up, I don't know. Could be they call it the election variant.

So here's where I'm I'm really torn because I feel like you, many people, you know, you're angry, you're upset, but we can't let that come out of us. We can't be the angry, tirade, rebellious in your face thing.

We think, right? You guys are laughing at me, I don't know if it's anything. But anyway, I pray for this guy. I pray for this guy at the first service. I felt bad for him because it really hit home. He was that angry guy because I'm even flipping people off online.

I'm like, you go to this church and you're doing that. What? Yeah, I'm like, stop, stop. I know you're angry. I know you're angry. But see, the more time you spend with God, the more time you spend with his word and you're praying out of that prayer closet will come the filling of the spirit.

Then you can navigate these waters. Then you'll have a holy righteousness, a holy boldness. And God will do amazing things with that. He doesn't do a lot with anger and anger and arrogance. Last I checked.

Anger worketh not the righteousness of God. Now, it can be the right type of anger point in the right direction, like anger over the abortion industry. And God prompts, usually emotion prompts us to do something.

Right. We get sad. You go to a memorial service. You go back home and you hug your kids, you know, strong more. And you hug your spouse longer. And then you want to work on things at home and spend more time with them.

And then life comes in and you go to another memorial and those emotions draw you back. And same thing with seeing what the travesty that's going on in our nation with the sex trafficking. So that type of anger, if it propels you in the right direction, is really good.

And the direction it should propel you in is on your knees. First and foremost. First and foremost, without a shadow of a doubt. So let me talk about point number one. Point number one. This is so critical.

Erring on the Side of Grace

We are supposed to err on the side of grace. So you'll see, like sometimes in Paul's writings and other writings, you know, you can tell they're erring on the side of grace. Same thing with Romans 13.

You know, you err on the side of grace. And here's why. There's something inside of us called the rebel within. So if you do nothing, guess who's going to take over? The default mechanism in your heart.

If I don't do anything, I'm just going to lash out and get angry and get upset. So what do we do? We react. They react in anger. Have you ever sent that text and my wife showed me, I can delete my text now right after I send it.

I didn't know you could edit. Edit. Oh shoot. And you react. React. Instead of, Lord, spending time with Him, fueled up, filled up, prayed up, and then you respond the right way. Because I'm not talking about backing down and just complying, but you respond the right way.

You love the person and you err on the side of grace. See, erring on the side of grace keeps the flesh restrained. It doesn't let it control you. You control it by erring on the side of grace. What does that mean?

Well, it just means to just ponder, settle, don't react. Because often when we react, what's coming out? An emotion. Did you know anger is a secondary emotion? Often it's secondary. Something first happens and then we respond in anger versus reacting in anger.

And then versus responding later. More often than not, we must be slow to speak and live with humility. We don't know what someone is going through. And I made a confession at the first service. I'm going to confess to you right now.

Let me see. Didn't take me too long. I didn't do too well on the first go around a couple years ago. I didn't err on the side of grace. I wasn't filled with joy and love when they tell me to put on my mask.

You know these don't work. And so, we don't know though. For example, somebody might put on a mask to visit their child in the hospital. Because compliance, in their case, overrides the need to resist.

And even people today, they work at a store I go to. I ask them, hey, what's behind that? Are you sick? And they go, you know, I lost a couple friends at COVID and I don't want to get it. So they're living out of fear.

So if I make fun of someone living out of fear, I lose the ability to help them. Or to pray for them. Or to set an example. Maybe eventually say, why don't you, you're not afraid? Or what do you, and then you open the dialogue.

So anytime that fleshly nature comes out, you're really, you kind of hurt the situation more than help it. And then of course, we could stay here for hours and giving, well, what about this? What about this?

What about this? That's why you need to spend time with God. Because not every situation, there are times when you say, nope, uh-uh. You fool me once, but fool me twice. And you lovingly confront and you explain why.

There's articles out there explaining why things like that don't even work. Hand it to them and just, and you have to, every situation is different. But as long as our attitude is right, does that make sense?

As long as it's coming from the right heart, we'll be able to navigate these waters. Many people chided those who got the vaccine to see their grandkids or feed their family. Others rebuked those who didn't get it.

Failing to realize that they did hours of research on the experimental drug and did not want to rush ahead. We now know that many of their concerns are valid. And again, this is why we are an heir on the side of grace.

And that's what we saw. That's why this is so difficult. It's a Romans 14. Read that sometime. It shows how to be graceful in the areas that are non-essential. So you see, most of us agree that the medical industry has provided a lot of good things in the past.

But we also know, you know, many of us, big pharma, greed, things that are shenanigans like, you know, censoring videos that dare oppose them. I mean, so you can take a good concept possibly and make it really bad.

And there's people on different sides of the aisle. I've talked to people in the military. Anybody in the military? How many vaccines did you get? Lots. And you have the physical, you know, those in the medical industry and nurses.

But then there's all nurses on both sides. But then you have others that have a different view of immunology and how the body works and building up natural immunity or natural response versus trusting experimental.

You know, and so you just have to allow people that freedom. I found that I'm not going to change people. They need to go read someone else and then they'll change their mind. Kind of like your kids, right?

You try to tell your kids something for five years. One person talks to them for 20 minutes and now, oh my, I've been telling you that for five years. Right? Yeah. I've been telling you that for five years.

And so that's how it works with this area as well. And it was hard. It was a hard thing for me because you want to force, you just don't, why don't you see? You know, but that's why I think God gives us different views on this.

Now, I will say this. This week, I actually went and reached out to at least 20 some people I knew, pastors and friends who got the initial vaccine and 99 of them are not going to do it again or move forward or the boosters because more information comes out about, you know, all these different things.

I want to turn this into that type of message. I just want to be sensitive to both views and share that Christians should not be divided on these non-essential issues. And God will use these things to test us.

So if you're not to be quick to anger, well, you're going to be, you're going to be challenged with things that make you angry. If you're to be slow, if you'd be quick to listen, you're going to be challenged with things that make you want to talk.

If you're to be patient loving, you're going to be challenged with things that make you impatient and unloving. And I just get, I just get just as worked up as, as, as anyone on what, because we, it's so clear.

It's so clear that there is a huge agenda. The government is being weaponized to, to, to take out certain political leaders and things like that. It's just, it's, it's very clear. I don't know what the future hold, but, but thank God we know who holds the future.

Isn't that, that's, that's the sanity. And the more you get back and you trust God and trust in His Word, you start to build your sanity back up. And we heard a lot, trust the science, trust the science.

It's coming back again. Trust the science. Did you know though that science must be questioned to be legitimate science? But they wouldn't let anybody question anything. No, it's one voice. One, one, one type of, of a belief system.

Albert Einstein once said, whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted in important matters. He also said, science must be questioned. That's how it grows. And that's how we improve on things.

I won't do it with you today, but it's kind of, if you ever take time, you can find out all the things that, that science and the medical industry believed 100, 150 years ago, 200 years ago. And what, what, what they believe now is not a good idea.

Like one of the ones that stands out for me is bloodletting. So they drain all the blood out of you to get rid of the disease. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. Or I mean, what's the one DDT that was used for, was it pesticides or something?

And now it's harmful. And I remember laying pipeline when I was younger and had something, they used to have asbestos in it. And this is fine. Smoking is good for pregnant women. Coca-Cola is fine. It was actually, when it was first created, it was actual from the, from, from cocaine.

From the, it's like, we, we just, we, we don't. And, and the big thing that was a no, no, no, no, no. Many years ago was fasting. Don't fast because you'll die in about five days. If your stomach doesn't have any food to keep it together.

Now it's a complete opposite. We realize we are overfed and we need to limit consumption. All these guys out there on, on, on, on all the longevity guys, you know, that you watch your podcasts and things.

Now, why is, now it's changed. Because we learn more. Remember when fat-free was a big thing? Now they're finding that was not good. Not good. Oh, I could have told you that. God put avocado, fat in an avocado and all this for reasons.

We don't, and just so you, you have to question these things. So here's the main challenge for genuine believers in times like this. We have to properly balance submission with resisting things that go against God's Word.

We have to be bold, but not at the cost of love. And we have to be slow to speak, right? But we also must speak. We must speak the truth. And then the point, second point, rarely is passivity the answer.

The Call to Resist Passivity and Confront Evil

What I mean by that is sometimes it's good to be quiet, calm, wait on the Lord. I'm just not going to do anything right now. Of course that's biblical. But passivity in itself, the idea is never the answer in and of itself.

It doesn't spark much change at all. Think about all, I mean, I could share the writings of early church fathers with you. How they would be bold enough to confront the culture. People, have you heard the name John Wycliffe before?

John Hus, William Tyndale. Anybody have a Tyndale Bible? Two of those three were burned at the stake. Because they were not passive. They were bold and challenged. The Reformation, you've heard of that big movement.

They were bold enough to challenge some things. And when things do change in a government, people are bold enough to say, hey, not on my watch. Can you imagine if nobody says anything about what's going on in our nation with the books in the schools?

You ever see those videos where people are reading what's in the actual book? And the school board says, oh, stop reading. Security, get them out of here. Wait a minute, you're allowing that in the school, you hypocrite.

What do you mean? What about if nobody stands up for that? What would happen? Evil would flood. Into this place. Would it not? Evil would flood into this place. A guy, me and Abram kind of know John. Reverend John, I don't know how to pronounce his name.

Montechuca or something? Big, black, six foot three. Guy's been on Fox News lately. He's been going to all these school boards. Have you seen the video? I sent him a message. He's responded, so hopefully we'll have him come speak out here.

I'm going to see him at Turning Point USA. But my thank God, brother, going to Florida and reading that. Going to Texas and reading that. You know, thank you for doing that. Being bold. It's waking up people, but why aren't we doing that?

We can go to the school board and say, I just want to look you six in the face and tell you this is wrong. Can you imagine? Because all they're hearing now is praise from the other side. Oh, thank you.

Thank you for inclusivity. Thank you for loving me and not judging me. Thank you for helping. No, that's not love. That's your harming people. And those who are intolerant really aren't for tolerance.

You've heard me talk about that before, haven't you? They're not open to opposing views. For example, I just answered on Facebook. Somebody said, it's a gay couple, a woman and her gay, I guess they're married probably.

And they want to come to the church and ask, are you a affirming church? And I said, well, give me a call and let me walk you through everything. And they ghost me. They block me. And she said, we already know what your stance is because you won't answer my question yes or no.

Like, well, do I even have the opportunity? Can we talk? I mean, is this Bible? See, they don't tell me. Don't tell me what I don't want to hear. It's okay for you to tell me what you believe, but God forbid I tell you what the Bible says.

See, they don't want to have a conversation because the truth invites scrutiny. Hey, what does the Bible say? Let's talk about it. Error will run from it. When somebody's in error, they run from the truth.

No, don't confront me. I've been blocked now. It's like I'll talk to you. So you can't even talk to people now. You can't even talk to them. It's amazing. And then so we have to be bold enough to share our faith.

Love people enough to tell them the truth. But passivity is rarely an answer. All of you have heard this before, but it bears repeating. First, we overlook evil. Then we permit evil. Where are we at now?

Then we legalize. Then we promote. Then we celebrate. And then we persecute and punish those who call it evil. And I'm convinced, the more I go through the Word, the more I live, I am absolutely convinced that we are not as believers called to be passive.

Now, again, they're a passive moment. Rest in the Lord. Wait upon Him. Renew your strength. Go into your prayer closet. Take some time. But all this put on the whole armor of God. Why? So I can remain passive?

Carrying around the sword of the Spirit and this. But I'm just going to go sit at home and do nothing? It makes no sense. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal. And I'm not talking about going and protesting and burning down anything.

Please don't misunderstand. I'm actually not even talking about violence. I'm talking about getting in your prayer closet. Oh, your gun safe is full, but it's your prayer closet? That's what I'm talking about.

This is how we fight our battles. We come to worship nights. We come to times of church getting together, and we seek the heart of God, and we fight our battles, and we contend. That's the weapons of our warfare, and that's what God hears.

And this frustration. And I know it's difficult, and I mentioned Wednesday nights, but if you see where everything's going, you think it would, like the prayer night, you think that would be the busiest, like the most attended type of service.

But for most people, it's boring. And I hear that a lot. And I understand that. I've been there. And I've had hard days where I don't want to go. So I completely understand. But often it's boring because my heart isn't right.

If I've spent the first hour or two worshiping and in the Word, and even maybe fasting, and I'm expecting, living with the expectation of God to move, I'm hungry for those things, so I want to fuel and keep feeding on the things of God.

The reason those kinds of things are boring is because we've been feeding on the world all week, and of course, it's boring. We have no problem getting back to Netflix, putting our feet up on the couch for three hours.

But when it comes to the things of God, many times it's very difficult because we're feeding on the wrong things. Jesus was not a pacifist. Amen? I can imagine Him rebuking child groomers and pushers of perversion, saying it would be better for you if a millstone was hung around your neck and you were cast into the sea than to ever lead one of these little ones astray.

Now, be clear, He would offer hope, right? There's nobody behind His grasp at all. He would offer hope, but He would also point them to repentance. He would call them out on it. He would say, go in, sin no more.

It was that call to that deeper life with God. Many don't realize that although Jesus obeyed the government from taxation to protocol, things like that, He frequently did not obey the government in spiritual matters.

Did you know that there was a government in Israel over spiritual matters called the Sanhedrin? They were the governing body. They were researching. Did He do everything they said? Silly kids. You say this, but this.

You do this, but this. You need to stop healing. You need to stop. You can't. God's called me. God's called me to do this. And with the love... Because see, when you know what God's called you to do, and you're walking in that, people can't stop you.

They can try to discourage you, which is the big thing that the enemy will use for 99 of us to get us off track is discouragement. Discourage you. And He will try to discourage you. And you will then have to fight the good fight of faith and reinvigorate yourself, like David said, strengthen yourself in the Lord.

And the enemy wants to sidetrack you. And so when you're obeying God, and my position is not to obey, I'm not to disobey the governing authorities. Okay, I err on the side of grace. You're my leaders.

I'm to submit to you taxation, representation, different things, but now if you're asking me to do something, that clearly goes against God's Word, or clearly goes against wisdom too. God has given us... we forget about that.

Sometimes we're so focused on God, show me, write something in the sky, let me run into somebody, give me a dream. Okay, that's okay. But He also gives you wisdom in His Word. Wisdom is the principal thing.

Therefore, get wisdom in all you're getting. Get understanding. She will exalt you. She will promote you. Wisdom is so important. And look, here's a few examples of when authorities were disobeyed. In the book of Daniel, Daniel and three Hebrew boys rejected the will of the king.

The king said, here's what you will do. And they actually said, we can't find anything against Daniel unless we find it against him concerning the law of his God. In other words, Daniel obeys the king.

Daniel is the best servant of them all. And that's the way it should be. Hey, I'll do whatever you want. It sounds good. You're the best employee. You're the best servant. But now you say I can't talk about Jesus anymore?

Now we have a problem because God put me here to talk about Jesus. And did you know that's why most Christians go to jail in China? It's not because they're good citizens. It's not because they're bucking the system, the political system necessarily.

It's because they continue to witness. What about Paul? Did you know he was incarcerated for violating Roman law? What about the Hebrew midwives? Did they disobey? Hey, they disobeyed Pharaoh. That's losing your head time.

He wanted them to kill the male children. So, I mean, you could parallel that with abortion today. You know why we stand up against that. Still to this day, I cannot believe it. In Palmdale, a pastor told me he doesn't say anything about abortion, doesn't think it's necessarily...

He goes, I wouldn't do it. I don't tell people to do it. But the government, hey, it's law. You know, we have to submit to that. Like what Bible are you reading? But no, you don't submit to evil. My goodness, folks.