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00:20: I'm Ken Cheeseman, Raleigh, North Carolina. We wanted to do some evangelism, but then we started seeing this could be, abortion ministry could be effective for evangelism.
00:36: YouTube, just started watching, found Durbin confronting people, and then, yeah,
00:45: YouTube, basically. Well, I mean, at the place that we're at now, we have our pro -life,
00:57: I don't know, pregnancy center type place that's completely hostile and hates what we do.
01:04: They're trying to do what we do, and they really just hate the gospel, I think.
01:09: They don't give them the gospel. They're out there and they say, we're not with them, we're not with them, yeah, we're not with them.
01:18: No. And they have, you know, they have gift bags, there's food in the bag, there's information about getting the ultrasound, but we asked them to look in the bag, and there's not even a gospel track.
01:34: I really do think they're ashamed of the gospel. It's about handing out these bags and getting people to have the ultrasound so they can check the box, so they can extort money from churches that are afraid to share the gospel.
01:52: People should support End Abortion Now because they're not ashamed of the gospel, and they're proclaiming the law of God, which that's what's going to work on the heart to bring people to the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
02:09: I mean, it is the gospel. We can't be ashamed of the full counsel of God. If we don't proclaim it, if the church doesn't proclaim it, there's no organization on earth that will.
02:22: And then you have these pseudo -Christian organizations, again, extorting and taking money from Christians in the name of Christ, but will not speak the true message of Jesus Christ.
02:44: Hi, I'm Jeff Durbin, pastor of Apologia Church and the head of EndAbortionNow .com. I am so excited to present to you what
02:50: God has done over the last year through your prayers and your support, all that you've done to partner with us as a
02:56: Christian church trying to equip other Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children.
03:06: Years ago when we started this ministry, we told you that we were a Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel.
03:12: We did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion. We wanted to establish justice, to abolish this, to criminalize it, and to end it once and for all.
03:22: When we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free.
03:27: We wanted to educate them. We wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
03:33: As of today, over 615 local churches have signed up. They have been equipped.
03:39: They have been trained. They've gotten free resources. We haven't taken anything from these churches. We've wanted only to give to them, and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free.
03:52: Over 615 churches, countless lives have been saved at this point. Thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved, and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us.
04:05: You gave to this church to equip these churches, and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
04:11: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
04:19: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
04:27: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel, demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
04:37: That all has happened, and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
04:46: Right now in the state of Arizona, we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate, to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
04:56: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law, and that is admitted now.
05:04: Number one, we don't know exactly what she would do, and her expectation is that she may very well move to overview over rule,
05:13: Roe. The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
05:18: Roe the law of the land. That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v.
05:24: Wade is a court opinion, and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
05:32: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has, where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion.
05:44: They call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves. You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that worldview.
05:52: The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what Christians would call it. We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice.
06:07: We've been able to do that through your support. Over 615 local churches now out saving thousands of lives.
06:12: We have now established other media ministries. We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios.
06:25: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
06:36: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
06:42: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
06:56: God has made this movement global, and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
07:03: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
07:14: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
07:20: You've helped us to do that, and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
07:26: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed.
07:31: Right now, we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
07:42: Roe versus Wade, and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
07:50: It's already being submitted. All that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
07:56: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these pre -born children.
08:03: Will you join us again in 2021? Of course, pray for us. Of course, please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com
08:10: with your church. Save some lives with us. There's Christians all over the country that need you to join us.
08:16: We need your help to save lives. But also, partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together, and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation.
08:30: Help us to meet our matching donation for 2020. Help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb.
08:42: When you give to EndAbortionNow .com, you're giving to equip local churches to save lives.
08:48: That's all there is to it. Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
08:58: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
09:14: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
09:20: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
09:26: 10 years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying, end it.
09:34: It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here. Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
09:56: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
10:02: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
10:10: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
10:19: God has done. We never ask for another penny. The pro -life industry is an industry.
10:24: It's a business. When you give this to the church, the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny.
10:33: Brothers and sisters, will you give? Help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021.
10:41: Will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
10:46: Christian church? Help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now.
10:57: That's what's happening. So many churches. So many lives saved. Now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country.
11:12: Will you partner with a Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all?
11:21: We can celebrate together when we never ask for another penny from a
11:26: Christian to end this issue because it's ended. Go to endabortionnow .com,
11:33: sign up with your church to join us in saving lives. Go to endabortionnow .com to give towards the work of 2021.
11:42: All of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives, creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature.
11:55: Join us for 2021, brothers and sisters, I'd be so grateful if you did. Feels good to be out of that heat, doesn't it?
12:09: Yes. Summertime is officially here. Hey guys, here at Planned Parenthood in Nashville.
12:21: It's hard. It's been a real tough day here. One, it's hot. But man, there's been 30 cars rolled through here and most of them abortions.
12:30: So Wednesday now in Nashville has become a huge kill day. So they're killing babies five days a week.
12:37: I go two or three days a week and struggle with the fact that, you know, I'll be here tomorrow, but I won't be here on Monday.
12:46: And babies will die on Monday. It's, you know, if you really believe and know that's what's happening, how can you not do something?
12:58: Don't go in. Let's go to the Hope Clinic. Can we guide you to the Hope Clinic, please?
13:06: Can we guide you to the Hope Clinic? She's going in.
13:14: And so part of me going out there is it also gives me an excuse to engage everybody on the street.
13:20: And that's why I talk to everybody on the street. I wave at everybody. I'm looking for opportunities to not just save a baby and rescue a life there, but to bring life to somebody that doesn't understand the kingdom, the good news of the kingdom.
13:35: The sad thing is I'm standing here on the chair. Just on the other side of the fence, there's a car on the other side.
13:42: And I came in on the conversation, and it turns out, man, he's listening and responsive, but it's too late.
13:49: His child's already dead. Because I've had, I mean, through four years of conversations, I've had some really good ones where I've been successful.
13:56: And then there's times where I've just bombed. And it doesn't keep me from coming back. You learn.
14:02: Let's go get a free ultrasound, free pregnancy test. She's going to let her baby live? Yes!
14:08: How can we help? Let's say a year from now, abortion is over. Yeah.
14:14: Everywhere in the country. What did it take from now until one year for that to happen?
14:22: For the church to unite. Not only when I say the church,
14:27: I think the African American community within the church has to rise up.
14:33: I'm against racism. Call me, man. Call me. Hey, Tony, ask this discord about Margaret Sanger.
14:41: Ask her who Margaret Sanger is. Who looked at black people as animals. You know, I test this every day.
14:47: I asked the question of Margaret Sanger today. I did it multiple times. But very few people in the
14:53: African American community have ever heard that name. They just don't know. They don't have the knowledge of who she is and how this whole concept is based upon racism.
15:03: I ask the Lord really every day, is this what you want me to do?
15:09: And so, he's burned it into my heart to do it.
15:16: I think until it's done. Hi, I'm Jeff Durbin, Pastor of Apologia Church and the head of EndAbortionNow .com.
15:26: I am so excited to present to you what God has done over the last year through your prayers and your support, all that you've done to partner with us as a
15:34: Christian church trying to equip other Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children.
15:44: Years ago when we started this ministry, we told you that we were a Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel.
15:50: We did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion. We wanted to establish justice, to abolish this, to criminalize it, and to end it once and for all.
16:00: When we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free.
16:05: We wanted to educate them. We wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
16:11: As of today, over 615 local churches have signed up. They have been equipped.
16:17: They have been trained. They have gotten free resources. We haven't taken anything from these churches. We've wanted only to give to them, and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free.
16:30: Over 615 churches, countless lives have been saved at this point.
16:35: Thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved, and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us.
16:43: You gave to this church to equip these churches, and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
16:49: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
16:57: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization, and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
17:05: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel, demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
17:15: That all has happened, and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
17:24: Right now in the state of Arizona, we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate, to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
17:34: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law, and that is admitted now.
17:42: Number one, we don't know exactly what she will do. Well, the expectation is that she may very well move the overview over rule,
17:51: Roe. The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
17:56: Roe the law of the land. That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v.
18:02: Wade is a court opinion, and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
18:10: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has, where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion.
18:22: They call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves. You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that worldview.
18:30: The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what Christians would call it. We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice.
18:45: We've been able to do that through your support. Over 615 local churches now out saving thousands of lives.
18:51: We have now established other media ministries. We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios.
19:02: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
19:14: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
19:20: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
19:34: God has made this movement global, and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
19:41: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
19:52: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
19:58: You've helped us to do that, and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
20:03: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed.
20:09: And right now we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
20:20: Roe v. Wade, and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
20:28: It's already being submitted. And all of that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
20:34: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these pre -born children.
20:41: Will you join us again in 2021? Of course, pray for us. Of course, please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com
20:48: with your church. Save some lives with us. There's Christians all over the country that need you to join us.
20:54: We need your help to save lives. But also, partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation.
21:08: Help us to meet our matching donation for 2020. Help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb.
21:20: When you give to EndAbortionNow .com, you're giving to equip local churches to save lives.
21:26: That's all there is to it. Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
21:36: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
21:52: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
21:58: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
22:04: Ten years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying,
22:11: End it. It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here.
22:17: Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through End Abortion Now to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
22:34: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
22:40: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
22:48: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
22:57: God has done. We never ask for another penny. The pro -life industry is an industry.
23:02: It's a business. When you give this to the church, the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny.
23:11: Brothers and sisters, will you give? Help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021.
23:19: Will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
23:24: Christian church? Help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now.
23:35: That's what's happening. So many churches, so many lives saved. Now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content, with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country.
23:50: Will you partner with a Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all?
23:59: We can celebrate together. We may never ask for another penny from a
24:04: Christian to end this issue because it's ended. Go to endabortionnow .com,
24:11: sign up with your church to join us in saving lives. Go to endabortionnow .com
24:17: to give towards the work of 2021. All of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives, creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature.
24:33: Join us for 2021, brothers and sisters. I'd be so grateful if you did. My name's
24:42: Christina. We are in Raleigh, North Carolina. So a year, a year this past October, we've been going out.
24:52: Every Monday is our day. Well, initially my husband.
24:59: So we came across some videos, abortion now videos on YouTube.
25:05: And actually it was the desire to go to the city council meetings at first is what really was kind of like our thought process.
25:16: And then God did a miraculous thing one weekend and we watched babies are murdered here.
25:22: And then we Patty Smith somehow visited our church that same weekend.
25:29: And so we got to meet Patty and Scott Smith. And we did some street preaching with them like that day.
25:36: And then we trained with them for like six weeks on how they do abortion meal ministry.
25:42: And then we have just been doing it faithfully ever since. It's it's truly gospel centered.
25:51: They are not ashamed of the gospel. They're calling people to repentance. They're pointing out that this is murder, that this is sin.
26:00: We now have a actual resource center from Raleigh that is trying to do sidewalk ministry next to us.
26:08: It's kind of sad. It's sad to see their focuses on just sharing snacks and smiling and waving.
26:17: And their message is one of we know you have a hard decision to make.
26:24: And you know we just want to give you other options. You know as if abortion is still an option when it should not be an option at all because it's murder.
26:33: So murder should never be an option. So the pro -life message is weak.
26:38: It's a weak message and it's not Christ centered and it's not biblical. If you're giving to a resource center,
26:45: I would say stop that and give to End Abortion Now. Because they are legit.
26:52: They are Christ centered, standing on the word of God and not ashamed of Jesus. We actually found out that she had cystic fibrosis about a week after she was born.
27:44: Adrienne knew that something wasn't right just by how she was eating and some different things like that.
27:51: So what I remember was Adrienne went to her first appointment with Jade. And when she came home she was in tears just crying and she couldn't even really talk.
28:02: So Cheryl was with us which is our pastor's wife and she told me she said
28:08: Jade has cystic fibrosis. And I didn't know at the time what that meant exactly. I didn't know what that meant for Jade.
28:16: I just knew it was bad. I knew it had something to do with her lungs. So from there on we just started planning on how to raise a child with cystic fibrosis.
28:28: It used to be a death sentence for kids. Now, thank the Lord, we live in a time where the medical technology has come so far.
28:37: Medication has come so far. With any baby, they need to eat a lot.
28:44: And with her, you can't just feed her. She needs medication every time she eats anything.
28:51: So that can get time consuming and stressful. But she's very happy. She's very playful.
28:57: And she's been healthy lately. And it's just really rewarding to see how far she's come.
29:05: What a joy she brings to our family regardless of what we have to do to keep her healthy. Abortion wasn't even a thing that ever crossed our mind.
29:36: I think that a lot of people look at Jade's condition and they think,
29:42: Oh, she has something that's going to make her life difficult and hard. And it's going to make your guys' life difficult and hard.
29:49: So the narrative we're sold is the best thing to do is just kill her. And so for us, that never crossed our mind because life is hard in general.
29:58: It's hard for all of us. It's hard for children. It's hard for adults, parents, husbands, wives.
30:04: Life is difficult. And there are many obstacles that we go through. So abortion never crossed our mind.
30:11: And we're continuing to have children knowing that our future children could also have cystic fibrosis.
30:17: Every child we have, there's a 25 % chance. And we're not deterred from having children.
30:24: Children are a blessing. And God made her just the way she was. Not only did you save one generation.
30:42: Oh, thank you. Not only did you save my first granddaughter. Because that she lived,
30:48: I am a great -grandmother, and my mother is a great -great -grandmother. Praise the Lord.
30:53: Praise God. And they all are doing well. And I just thank you for your ministry.
30:59: Because my mother had me to commit abortion when I was 16. And I did not want to have it, but my mother made me have it.
31:09: And because of that, I am so desperately thankful that my daughter did not commit an abortion here.
31:21: And she had my granddaughter, her name is Jocelyn. And Jocelyn is on her second baby.
31:27: It's a little great -grandmother. Praise Jesus. That's awesome. I just want to tell you that. Thank you so much.
31:32: So, you know, your endeavors is not unheard. And all the people who say the mean things, it's not in pro -life.
31:41: Even though my mother had me to have an abortion. But at that time, back in the day, they didn't want the girls to get pregnant.
31:48: And my mother was fearful. And praise God, he's forgiving. Oh! That's because we've all done things that would get me to be forgiving.
31:56: I'm on my way to prayer right now. We knew of a woman that had needed some help.
32:11: And we had chosen to help her with her pregnancy. And she birthed a little girl.
32:18: And we continued to help her for a couple of years.
32:24: And she ended up pregnant, an unwanted pregnancy. And she wanted to get an abortion. And I just,
32:32: I couldn't fathom that. And I talked to her about it being murder.
32:39: And that it's just, you can't do that. She couldn't do it. I just wasn't going to let her do it. And I said, we'll talk tomorrow.
32:46: Next day came. She was living at her home, by the way. Next day came and she still wanted to.
32:52: And I said, you couldn't. And I told her she couldn't. And four days went by. And on the fourth day, she said that she had already ruined him.
33:00: That she had already ruined him. That she said that she had already been doing things that she shouldn't have been doing while she was pregnant.
33:08: And she said that nobody would want him. And I said that I would. I said that she couldn't get an abortion and that I wanted him.
33:18: And then I called my husband and I told him what I said. And he was like, okay, we're going to have another baby.
33:26: And he was born two months early. And his name is Jairus. And we are so blessed by him.
33:35: And I'm so blessed that that mom chose life. I'm so blessed that she trusted me.
33:43: That she trusted me to help her through her pregnancy. And to care for him.
33:53: And he's one. He's one. Well, he's number 10.
34:00: And he is full of energy. And we hadn't had a boy for a while. So it's just, he's a bundle of joy.
34:08: He is more than what I expected.
34:14: He's right on track with kids his age. He's not been affected by anything that she was doing.
34:24: He's perfect. So this is actually, to my mind, a historic site.
34:47: It's a place where one of the giants of the faith of our generation has stood and ministered for 16 years.
34:56: It's a really incredible spot. This is the Orlando Women's Center. I've only been here for a little bit as we're getting everything set up to do this for you so you can see this place.
35:06: And just in being here for a short time, I've already seen several mothers and fathers going in and out.
35:14: I've watched two women who came in here to kill their children stumble out and sort of be carried out by the fathers of the children.
35:27: And so it really can be a devastating emotional experience to be out here, to be so close.
35:36: We've been in this for maybe about a decade, preaching the gospel at abortion mills, raising up churches to go and save lives.
35:44: Thousands of children have been saved through the work of the churches through End Abortion Now, who have come out to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope and love to mothers and fathers who are going in to kill their children.
35:56: But where we're at, we can't get this close to the abortion mills. So this, for me, is a really powerful experience.
36:08: Not just because of how close you can be to the mothers and the fathers who are going in there to kill their children, how close you can be to the paid assassin who's out back smoking, and to the staff that are out there smoking in between killing children.
36:23: But it's an amazing place to be because of what's taken place at this location.
36:29: John Barros is my hero of the faith, one of my heroes of the faith.
36:35: He's been out here faithfully. He's been a silent hero for so long. Every single day coming out here to preach the gospel to these mothers and fathers to plead for the lives of their children.
36:45: He's been doing it for 16 years. I call him a silent hero because he was doing this and he was faithful out here every single day before people really cared about who he was or had cameras on him or could do live feeds out here.
36:59: He was just saving children by the thousands before it was cool. And so many miracles have happened here at the
37:09: Orlando Women's Center. Too many miracles to actually talk about right now on this particular clip.
37:15: But miracles happening, I mean, even every day I've talked to the two men that are out here today and they've already seen,
37:20: I think, two or three saves today. Just by being here, being faithful, standing on the truth and preaching
37:28: Christ. But I wanted to show you this. This for me is a moment that I will never forget.
37:36: John's one of my heroes. He's inspired me to do this work. And abortion now exists in many ways because of his testimony and his work.
37:43: But I've wanted to come here for so long to experience just being here at the place where God has moved to save thousands of children from death over so many years.
37:54: And I've wanted to come here because of this.
38:01: This is actually a very, very powerful thing. John, many of you guys know, stands on crutches.
38:09: So not only does he come to the abortion mill to preach the gospel, to save lives all day long. And let me just tell you right now, it's hot out here.
38:15: It's hot. It's not comfortable. But he stands on crutches. And he's been here for so long, so faithfully been here for so long, for 16 years, that he's literally worn the sidewalk down.
38:29: He's worn the sidewalk down right in front of the doors where the mothers and fathers are going in to kill their children.
38:37: This has been his station. Right here. This is his spot. And this is where the gospel has come from, this worn down sidewalk, right into those doors, into those mothers and fathers in there who are going to kill their children.
38:53: The gospel has come out from this spot so many thousands of times.
38:59: And God has saved so many thousands of children. To my mind, this ought to be a monument.
39:05: It is a monument. It is a monument. It's a monument to one man's faithfulness, to a silent hero, a man who's given his life for these children.
39:19: And I was saying this earlier, so many thousands of children are going to go through their whole lives and never even hear the story of the hero who saved their lives.
39:27: Many of the mothers and fathers who turned away from killing their children aren't going to tell their child, you know,
39:32: I was going to kill you and then this man stopped me. They'll never tell them. Who knows?
39:39: God knows. John knows. Those mothers and fathers know. But their children, they won't know that their life is a reality because of one man's faithfulness in this hot sun, outside of this one place of death for so many years.
40:00: And there's a monument to his heroic acts. There's a monument to his faithfulness.
40:07: And it truly is incredible because, I don't know if it comes through on the camera like it does when you're here, but if you feel the sidewalk all around here, it's consistent, it's rough, but as soon as you move over here,
40:26: John has stood here and you can see where he's worn the sidewalk down and even where when he was standing on his crutches, he's worn the sidewalk down to where this is white.
40:38: But it's not just white. He's literally worn it down to where there's holes in the concrete.
40:46: You can feel this man's faithfulness. The monument to it. All of this dark and consistent and then the concrete just worn down from the weight of his body, pushing into those crutches, leaving a mark of gospel faithfulness going through those doors.
41:08: And it's powerful because, wouldn't it be amazing if one day, like this was an actual historic site?
41:17: I think it ought to be. I know it is in God's mind. But to me, this is one of the most precious moments of my life to be able to see this because this man and his silent faithfulness, the silent hero, was out here preaching the gospel to these women, saving lives, long before most of us got involved in this.
41:40: There are many heroes besides John, don't forget that, but many of us today who are out preaching the gospel and saving lives are doing it in a particular context that's just so different.
41:50: John and others like him were out here as silent heroes before most of us had woken up.
41:58: And here's the monument to his faithfulness. I'm so glad I got to touch it.
42:05: And you can not just hear this story, you cannot just hear this story and say, oh that was amazing, praise
42:14: God for this man, and move on. Don't do that. Don't do that.
42:23: We're a part of this now as the church with the gospel to save lives and preach the gospel.
42:30: This is about the truth. This isn't merely a political situation.
42:36: I'm not trying to draw on your heart strings. There's real children being slaughtered inside this location and others like it that are near you.
42:47: You can be a part of what God is doing to save children and to bring the gospel into conflict with the issue of abortion.
42:58: All right, I've been asked to give five tips on how to get started in abortion ministry. Everywhere you go, everything's going to be a little bit different, but these are five things that I think are pretty essential.
43:11: Number one, I think that the best deal is when we are able to own that abortion clinic, when you're able to get somebody there full time to head up the ministry there.
43:23: I'm so thankful that there's people around the country now that are doing that, but it's very important to own that place.
43:31: I'm at my abortion clinic every day, and there's people that can come and minister. They know that they're going to be in Orlando that day or a certain day for some other doctor's appointment or something.
43:43: So they know, though, that they can come by that clinic and minister there for an hour or two or do whatever on any day and then once everybody knows that you're there, then it flows that people would come down and minister with you.
43:58: It's very important that you have the local church behind you and that you're supported and fed and taken care of by the people in your church, that they agree with you that they're behind this type of ministry, that they believe that the church should be down fighting for the lives of innocent babies and that the gospel should be brought to such a wicked place.
44:27: I know there's a lot of people whose churches aren't behind them for that, but I would suggest then that you try to find another church.
44:37: I know that I wouldn't be able to do what I do if I didn't have the support, love, and care of not only the leaders in my church, but also the members of my church.
44:48: They provide care, prayer, love. They support financially.
44:54: They also have a support for the people that choose life. There's a group of women at our church that, when someone chooses life at the abortion clinic, you can turn them over to them, and they'll be discipled, they'll be taken care of, they'll become involved in their lives.
45:14: And it's a very important thing. Another thing that you need to do is to know
45:21: Scripture, especially Scripture that pertains to the ministry down at the mill.
45:29: God tells us in Romans 1 that the gospel is the power of God.
45:35: So when we come there, our two weapons are prayer and God's word, and those are the tools that he has instituted for us to fight this fight with.
45:49: So you don't want to go down there without a sword. You don't want to go get into a battle without a sword.
45:55: So just study as much as you can of Scriptures that pertain to what
46:01: God thinks of abortion, what the consequences of it are, his faithfulness to everyone that is obedient and commits themselves to him, and repents of it.
46:13: Always have and always be looking, never quit looking, actually, for resources. Unfortunate that I have several pregnancy centers in the
46:23: Orlando area, but we also have people in our church that do, and everything from adoption to just taking care of whatever needs they have.
46:35: But just always know what you can. It takes time. I know if you're going to go start at a brand new place, it's going to take you time to figure all these things out, but the
46:46: Lord will lead you in it. It's very important, too, that you have follow -up with these ladies as much as they'll let you into their lives.
46:55: There's a dear lady that comes down and helps the clinic where I'm at. Her name's Karen. She has
47:02: Bible studies and everything for people that choose life and tries to disciple them and tries to lead them all to Christ and be involved evangelistically in their families as well.
47:19: That is really important because so many of them, if you're not careful, can fall through the cracks.
47:25: Even when you are really trying to not let anybody fall through the cracks, it can happen.
47:32: So you want people that can take care of that thing. All I can do myself, personally, is
47:40: I go to an abortion clinic, and I try to speak to people as they're arriving.
47:47: And then I preach the word. And then they come out, and someone chooses life.
47:56: Pray with them and send them on their way with resources. But I can't be involved in all these people's lives.
48:07: And the people that I'm just like the mouth, and then there's all these other people that are hearts and hands and arms that are so desperately important.
48:19: And that is the key to truly having a ministry.
48:26: It's a whole package. These are just a few points that I was asked to bring out, and I would just encourage you to research it all yourself.
48:35: Oh, baby,
48:45: God gave it to you regardless of anybody there. When nobody else is there, there's love right here, right there.
48:58: Hi, my name is Deanna Peterson. This here is Dion. First of all, he looks just like me.
49:07: So he's the cutest thing. I think he's smart from, you know, he's only four months now.
49:14: But he do a lot of stuff that is really fun to see.
49:19: You know, it's fun to see them grow up and do stuff that they wasn't doing yesterday or the day before.
49:25: And then I imagine what he going to look like when he get Bryce's age. Bryce turn two in a week.
49:34: You know, emotions were already high. I just had my first baby, and then when he was turning one, then
49:40: I found out I was pregnant with him. I was not having good luck with jobs.
49:48: My living situation wasn't really that good. You know, like what am I going to do now?
49:53: But, you know, I figured it all out when he here now. So I had actually been sitting inside for a while.
50:02: When I had walked past originally, you know, like everybody, he just waved them off at me like, you know, you're going to go do what you're going to do.
50:08: I walked back outside because I was like really impatient about it. I'm like, dang, there's like 30 ,000 people in here.
50:15: Like everybody want to do the same thing on the same day. So I went back outside. I called my children's father, and my mom was outside.
50:25: She was the one who took me up there. She didn't want to really take me, but I'm like, you know, I'm thinking there's something I got to do.
50:30: Like, Mom, he just take me. But then I did stand there, and I had a conversation with Andrew, and it really changed my perception from that point on because I had the same mindset, same decision thinking when
50:50: I was pregnant with my first son. I was like, oh, my God, and then I had somebody save me then, too. So, you know, it would be a blessing that them people do be outside because ain't no telling where I would be without either one of them because I love them so much.
51:08: If Andrew wasn't outside, I probably would have still took the time to really contemplate it because once you're in there, like, you know, you kind of start feeling guilty.
51:19: You'd be like you don't really know if that's what you want to do, but then you think about, you know, of course you think about who's going to be there for you and all that stuff when it really don't matter because God's there for you.
51:29: You're going to be there for them. Life would be different. You know, I'd just have my one versus my two.
51:37: You know, honestly, I'd probably be in the same situation I was in because, you know,
51:43: I wasn't really pushing hard enough and trying hard enough, but I had him, and I guess it gave me a little more strength.
51:50: It gave me a little more faith to fight and keep going. Just imagine the little you.
51:56: Like, if somebody ended your life, you wouldn't have been here. So, you know, like, why would you take?
52:01: This is a gift to you. Why would you take that away from me? When I'm mad, I sometimes don't want to look at him sometimes because I'm so mad, but then
52:10: I do, and then I'm just overjoyed. I'm filled with life, love, everything in between.
53:04: Years ago, when we started this ministry, we told you that we were a Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel.
53:10: We did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion. We wanted to establish justice, to abolish this, to criminalize it, and to end it once and for all.
53:20: When we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free.
53:25: We wanted to educate them. We wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
53:31: As of today, over 615 local churches have signed up. They have been equipped.
53:37: They have been trained. They've gotten free resources. We haven't taken anything from these churches. We've wanted only to give to them, and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free.
53:50: Over 615 churches, countless lives have been saved at this point. Thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved, and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us.
54:03: You gave to this church to equip these churches, and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
54:09: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
54:17: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization, and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
54:25: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel, demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
54:35: That all has happened, and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
54:44: Right now in the state of Arizona, we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate, to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
54:54: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law, and that is admitted now.
55:02: Number one, we don't know exactly what she would do. The expectation is that she may very well move to overview over Roe.
55:12: The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making Roe the law of the land.
55:19: That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v. Wade is a court opinion, and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
55:31: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has, where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion.
55:42: They call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves. You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that worldview.
55:49: The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what Christians would call it.
55:55: We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice.
56:05: We've been able to do that through your support. Over 615 local churches now out -saving thousands of lives.
56:11: We have now established other media ministries. We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios.
56:23: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
56:34: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
56:41: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
56:54: God has made this movement global, and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
57:02: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
57:11: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
57:18: You've helped us to do that, and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
57:24: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed.
57:29: And right now we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
57:41: Roe v. Wade, and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
57:48: It's already being submitted. And all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
57:54: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these pre -born children.
58:01: Will you join us again in 2021? Of course, pray for us. Of course, please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com
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58:15: We need your help to save lives. But also, partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together, and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation.
58:28: Help us to meet our matching donation for 2020. Help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb.
58:40: When you give to EndAbortionNow .com, you're giving to equip local churches to save lives. That's all there is to it.
58:48: Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
58:56: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
59:12: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
59:18: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
59:24: 10 years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying,
59:31: End it. It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here.
59:37: Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion, and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
59:55: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
01:00:01: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
01:00:09: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
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01:02:02: When I say believe, I don't mean believe in committing sin. Do you believe there is such a thing as sin? I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically, delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things, just marked when they're born.
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01:03:32: I'm Jeff Durbin, this is Luke Pearson. We are in front of the Margaret Sanger Clinic.
01:03:37: This is actually one very historic site. It's literally a historic site, historic landmark, but historic in terms of the evil, wicked things that began here really shaped the course of the future in the
01:03:55: United States of America and shaped the culture itself. And it really started here at this first legal birth control clinic in the
01:04:04: United States of America. And this was the Birth Control Research, Clinical Research League Bureau.
01:04:13: And this particular location here, Margaret Sanger worked long and hard for, a moment, a space in the
01:04:21: United States of America where she could actually promulgate and propagate her worldview, which was a wicked, evil worldview.
01:04:29: Let's be honest, Margaret Sanger is no hero. She's lauded as a hero today, but we need to understand, who was
01:04:36: Margaret Sanger? Is she the hero everyone thinks that she is? No, not at all. So who was she, what did she believe? So she was born in 1879 to an atheist immigrant father, and her mother was
01:04:46: Irish Catholic. She actually was secretly baptized into the Catholic Church when she was a child.
01:04:53: And then when her mother passed away at 17, she went off to boarding school, and that's when everything changed for her.
01:04:59: She became all about free love and feminism and socialism, and she, at that point, began to hate
01:05:07: Christianity. And so at the turn of the 19th century, we see, at the same time she's around, right?
01:05:15: You have Stalin, you have Hitler, and you have Mussolini. And the other three, not
01:05:21: Margaret Sanger, the other three are obviously villainized, right? Right. Because they combined approximately 30 million people they murdered.
01:05:29: What's crazy, Margaret Sanger, you're talking about, she's a hero to so many people. She's more than doubled that now because of Planned Parenthood and the amount of people she's killed even before they had a chance to live.
01:05:40: So yes, definitely not a good person by any means. Definitely not a hero. It's definitely someone that we should be telling the truth about.
01:05:46: So we're talking about telling the truth about Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger actually believed that there were lower classes of people or lower races of people who were not worthy to be cared about.
01:05:59: They were seen as parasites. And her particular worldview, it wasn't just about birth control.
01:06:06: No. The Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau League, everything she was doing here, it wasn't simply about birth control, taking a pill or a diaphragm she was smuggling from overseas.
01:06:17: That really wasn't the main point, right? She had a worldview that she was living out.
01:06:23: She was putting legs on. Birth control was just the tip of the iceberg. What was underneath that is that she actually believed,
01:06:29: I know she believed the Slavs, she believes the Eastern Europeans, she believed the black people were actually the lower class of human beings.
01:06:37: Jews. Jews. And she wanted to actually have something with legs on it that would actually help to exterminate and end those classes of people.
01:06:49: Exactly. And she actually is on record saying that she wanted to exterminate the Negro population.
01:06:56: And so is it an accident that we see that in the history of Planned Parenthood and this movement that Margaret Sanger began that we actually see the abortion clinics, abortion facilities in predominantly lower income areas?
01:07:13: Exactly. Is it an accident we see it right next to where there is a larger population of black people and Hispanic people?
01:07:21: She believed that the Aryan race was the superior race. The fit race. The fit race. Yeah, everyone else was unfit.
01:07:28: Okay. Yeah, and so one of her mentors, Thomas Malthus, he actually taught that we should only allow essentially those to live that were necessary for the desired population and everyone else should be necessarily exterminated.
01:07:44: Right. So if you weren't needed, you should be put to death even before you had a chance to live. So when we talk about sterilization, that goes along with that.
01:07:52: Yeah, absolutely. And so Malthus actually, he wanted to put the unfit, these other races,
01:08:02: Negroes as they call them, not what I say, Hispanics, whoever that wasn't
01:08:07: Aryan, he wanted to cram them into housing projects, narrow streets, and wanted to introduce the plague to them.
01:08:14: That was his desire. He literally wanted to exterminate them, and she was all for that. And speaking of what we have today with Planned Parenthood, there's a saying that good roots produce good fruit.
01:08:27: Now with Planned Parenthood, bitter roots have produced bitter fruit. So I was just reading a little bit ago, and so essentially almost half of the black babies are aborted in this nation.
01:08:41: Almost half. Here in New York City, it's over that. It's over half of all black babies are aborted in New York City.
01:08:48: So it's exactly what she wanted, only it hasn't gone quite as far because there's still a black population.
01:08:53: And there's a propaganda machine that makes her dream, I can't believe
01:08:59: I'm touching this right now, that makes her dream, her vision seem like it's about women's rights and their bodies and their freedom, when in reality, if you know
01:09:09: Margaret Sanger, and if you know her worldview, if you know the worldview of the killer angel, then you know that really what's going on behind Planned Parenthood, the women's rights, reproductive rights, and my body, my choice, all that, there's something really much deeper beneath that.
01:09:27: She got what she wanted. In terms of her believing there was a lower class of human beings, believing that black people ought to be exterminated, believing that they shouldn't propagate as a race, she got what she wanted.
01:09:42: And in particular, we look at New York itself. I mean, in New York, her dream is fulfilled.
01:09:49: I mean, she's wiping out the black population. It's a wicked, evil, disgusting thing.
01:09:55: She was an evil, disgusting, disgraceful human being. And it began, much of it here, right here in this location, on this regular old street in New York City, right here, what we're touching right here, this
01:10:09: Margaret Sanger clinic. You see, worldviews have consequences. Theology matters.
01:10:16: If you were to talk about Margaret Sanger for 60 seconds, if you had 60 seconds to tell somebody about Margaret Sanger and why she was evil and why her vision of the future was wicked, what would you say?
01:10:29: Well, first, she was an atheist. She was a socialist. She was a thief, a liar, and an adulterer.
01:10:35: She wanted free love. She abandoned her husband and her children. She stole from Planned Parenthood.
01:10:41: At one point, she actually was removed from the board because she was stealing funds that they raised to invest them in the black market.
01:10:48: Like, it just, the list goes on and on. She lied about her resume. She lied about who she was. She actually went as far as to change the record in her mother's family
01:10:57: Bible in order to make herself look better. Like, she was a vile, evil person.
01:11:03: There's nothing righteous about her whatsoever, and yet she still celebrates. She was a Nazi sympathizer.
01:11:08: You look at Stalin and Hitler, both took what she was preaching and applied it to their regimes in the
01:11:18: USSR and, well, I don't know, I guess it was Russia then, and Germany. She actually had Hitler's main guy that was in charge of sterilization and eugenics was on her board at one point.
01:11:29: So she was supportive of all the Third Reich, eliminating the Jews, which is crazy.
01:11:35: We're saying that because literally right next to us is the, what is this called?
01:11:40: The Center for Jewish History. It's right next door. And she wanted to eliminate them. Yes. Like, it's crazy.
01:11:46: No, that is wild. Right here at the Margaret Sanger Clinic, the first legal birth contraceptive clinic in the
01:11:55: United States of America is literally next door to the Center for Jewish History.
01:12:02: It's insane. Which is, it's amazing that they can be sitting next to each other in terms of everything that she believed about the future.
01:12:09: Her hatred for particular races, particular classes of people, is something that's disgusting and ought to be actually exposed.
01:12:18: Margaret Sanger was no hero. No. Her vision of the future was no utopia. No. I mean, it was a perverse, disgusting,
01:12:25: Nazi -esque utopia. But I think one of the things that most awes me about this is this is just some regular old street in New York City.
01:12:39: And this was not very long ago in our history and so much evil swept across the
01:12:45: United States of America because a woman believed in something evil, but she held to that worldview and she fought for it.
01:12:54: And because you've got this woman who planted here and fought for this, 60 million babies dead in our country because of her movement, because of her belief system.
01:13:04: And if anything I can think of is that there are little pieces of land, little moments in history where things can legitimately happen.
01:13:15: I mean, not far from here is Stonewall. A mile away. And so we're actually in a little piece of property in New York where we have the first legal contraceptive clinic in the
01:13:30: United States of America that actually launched the abortion movement to just slaughter babies wholesale.
01:13:36: And then actually Stonewall, the Stonewall riots were not far from here at all.
01:13:42: And there's another movement that actually changed the course of our nation, the culture in our nation.
01:13:49: That came from her essentially. Exactly. So you've got Margaret Sanger, you've got Stonewall, and this little part of New York City.
01:13:57: So much happened here that actually recreated the culture. Yeah. In many ways, right?
01:14:02: Yeah, it's crazy. So for me, I think about that as, obviously us as pastors thinking about the future, is that it doesn't take massive armies
01:14:10: No. to change a culture. Right. It takes people who believe very strongly in what they believe in and they're courageous enough to start standing up and fighting for it.
01:14:20: Now, I want to say when unbelievers can do that and become national historic landmarks after slaughtering 60 million human beings,
01:14:30: I think we can do it with the gospel. Yeah. And with enough courage and boldness to be willing to lay our lives down to shape the future.
01:14:37: Right. Yeah, we stand on truth, right? Right. We have answers to everything. She stood on atheism, nothing. Nothing.
01:14:42: She had to borrow, right, from our worldview. And this is important. I think especially for where we're at now in our culture with this movement infiltrating the church now, she firmly believed that Christianity in the church was her number one enemy.
01:14:57: Of course. And she sought to destroy the church from within. And her and Malthus and all of her friends, they hated
01:15:06: Christian benevolence and generosity because they saw that as their enemy, right?
01:15:12: They saw the church helping those women that couldn't care for their babies.
01:15:18: She saw them as the enemy, so she encouraged the women to abort their babies, to murder their babies, instead of allowing the church to help.
01:15:25: And unfortunately, the church has fallen right in line with that. Right. And so I think it's pretty eye -opening where we are now.
01:15:32: Again, she's got what she wanted. This is the fruit. If you look at a lot of the early tracks and propaganda that they were handing out here from this clinic, they would say things like, you know, hey, birth control, don't kill your baby, don't take the life of your baby.
01:15:47: Like she was actually arguing against abortion, like just do it, like diaphragms and just take these pills.
01:15:53: And what about this medication? For her early on, it was because she was propagating her worldview.
01:15:58: She can only do it an inch at a time. So early on, she was actually saying, don't kill your baby. Don't take the life of your baby after you've created the baby.
01:16:07: Just take these pills, just do these things first. And as soon as she got legalization, as soon as she got into effect, what was seen before as perverse, it really was, it was against the law because it was seen as perverse.
01:16:20: Then that's when it moved into the next stage, which was actual kill your baby. You should be able to kill your baby at will.
01:16:28: So it starts just incrementally, small steps, small stages. And Margaret Sanger got what she wanted.
01:16:34: But Margaret Sanger belongs, if there was a Mount Rushmore of wicked people in history, and if it was like Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Margaret Sanger most certainly belongs on that, on that mountain of villains, villains in history.
01:16:51: And it's amazing because you see people like Hillary Clinton and other leftist and liberal politicians actually get in line, praising, singing the praises of Sanger.
01:17:04: Exactly. They're not ashamed of the history. No, no, no. They know the history and they actually laud her as a hero of the movement.
01:17:11: But if you look at her, no question, objectively, look at what she said, look what she did. She despised certain classes of people.
01:17:19: She hated black people, wanted to destroy them. And we laud her as a hero. She was a wicked, disgraceful excuse of a human being.
01:17:27: Exactly. Now, of course, she's dead now. If she was alive, we'd be preaching the gospel to her, calling to repentance.
01:17:32: But she needs to go down in history as a villain because that's who Margaret Sanger was. She was a villain.
01:17:40: This place right here housed one of the darkest individuals in human history.
01:17:45: Yeah. I was going to say, speaking of incrementally, so she actually opened her first clinic in 1923 and was shut down because it was, at that point, was seen as something that was not morally acceptable.
01:17:57: Right. Right. And she actually, she'd hand out the pamphlets, she encouraged something called a
01:18:02: Clorox douche. Right. That was her first birth control method, right? Put Clorox inside.
01:18:08: That will take care of everything. And then when she, like you said, when she opened this, then she started smuggling diaphragms from Holland and just a history of lying, of being dishonest, of disguising the truth.
01:18:24: Right. And so I wanted to make sure I mentioned this. I'm wearing my baby lover shirt, right? We're baby lovers because we want to rescue the babies in the womb from being murdered.
01:18:34: If I was a Planned Parenthood supporter, this would say baby liver, right? Because they're guilty of selling baby livers.
01:18:41: That's right. Even though they want to lie about it and disguise it and act like it doesn't happen, it's proven it happens. And again, that's just bitter fruit of the bitter root.
01:18:49: That's right. That's where it all came from. All right, so I think one of the things we have to do to end abortion now in our nation is start telling the truth about what happened to get us to this place of abortion wholesale across our land.
01:19:05: And one of the things you have to do is tell the truth about the villains in history. Margaret Sanger, villain in history, not a hero, not a heroine, and certainly not someone to be emulated by any of us.
01:19:15: She was a villain. She was a liar. She had a very corrupt worldview, and Pastor Luke is right.
01:19:21: When you have a corrupt root, you will have corrupt fruit, and that's what we have with Margaret Sanger and her movement across the
01:19:27: United States of America. It started with a villain. And worldwide, really. Right here, in this location right behind us.
01:19:33: So again, it takes people who are willing to be bold, who believe in their worldview, and in particular, we know that God changes the world through the truth.
01:19:42: So get up, start speaking the truth, start telling the truth, start talking about Margaret Sanger as the villain that she was, and let's work to end abortion now.
01:20:24: Are you recording? Let me know when you're going. We'll just wing it. The very first thing that she said to us, or said to me, was,
01:20:36: I quit, and I'm willing to tell you whatever you want to know. And that's before any offer.
01:20:43: Before any offer. That was before, it took her several attempts to reach me, because we're not friends, and I didn't see the message come across.
01:20:51: And so, she reiterated it, and I thought, well, great. We can at least meet, and it'll give me an opportunity to find out where she's at, and share the gospel with her.
01:21:03: So Kim and I took her out to lunch on Tuesday of last week, and sat with her for like an hour and a half while she just told us details about what was happening.
01:21:15: They were very helpful information for us to have, but I knew Marcus was coming to town, so I'm like, this is providential.
01:21:23: Right. Maybe she'll agree to it. I didn't really know that she would, but she did agree to it.
01:21:29: We don't believe that she was saved, or that she quit because she's against abortion, but you and a group that you're with decide to help her out.
01:21:36: Well, I used to work at Home Women's Health, Fort Worth. Ended up leaving due to the fact that, well, there's a lot of reasons why, but the straw that broke the camel's back was made me pick between my small child versus them, is basically what it came down to, and I chose child, so they didn't win that battle.
01:21:57: They were increasing the hours. They were becoming increasingly more, before they were more,
01:22:03: I guess more accommodating would be the best word to use, more accommodating to people's schedules and people that have kids versus the ones that didn't because they could do whatever they wanted to, and it got to the point where if the accommodations just stopped, they wouldn't even listen to them, just said no, and it came down to, well, you can pick your kid or us, so I'm like, well, kid wins.
01:22:24: Right. But I got the impression from the interview that she did not quit out of an opposition to abortion.
01:22:30: I think she's been on the wire, on the line with it, but I think in the interview it came out that she wasn't really opposed to it, so I believe that she quit for practical reasons.
01:22:39: So with the increasing hours, the reason behind that is... More patients.
01:22:46: So they can fit in more people within their certain timeline because they were seeing so many people during one time.
01:22:53: Well, hey, if we open up more slots, we can see even more people and people that maybe have to go to work but they can't come in at like 4 o 'clock in the afternoon, 2 o 'clock in the afternoon, whatever it may be.
01:23:03: So if we open them up after 6, like, you know, 6 or 7, and we start seeing patients maybe about 740, stop having them scheduled at 740, 730, then we can see more people and squeeze more people even in.
01:23:14: Right. Yeah. She did share with us some information that I think would be helpful, and one of the things that we don't know because we're never in there, but she said that the people inside can hear every word that you're saying when you're preaching, especially on the amplification.
01:23:29: Depending on how... Depending on where someone was. So if you were on the... If you were facing the building, if you were on the left -hand side of the building, we could hear you pretty well.
01:23:39: That's very helpful. When we're out there with an amplifier and we can say, hey, if you're there right now, you know, you need to get out of there, and we can speak more directly to that situation.
01:23:49: Very helpful. Are there women who, like, are upset because they know they're killing their child?
01:23:56: Do you think there's women in there that don't know it's a child? About a 50 -50 on that one.
01:24:04: I think some of them, maybe they're in denial, maybe. Probably the best way to put it is denial about it.
01:24:13: And then there's some in there that come in... Like, they've been there several times. And they know exactly what they're doing.
01:24:21: They know exactly what's going on. And they're like, okay, just get it done. I don't care. I was kind of...
01:24:27: I was always on the fence with it. I think I reconciled it a little bit because I didn't actually go in the room rooms when they were doing anything.
01:24:35: So I think that's kind of how I, you know, played it out in my head because I was like, I was either working in the front office doing paperwork, like, you know,
01:24:41: I'm just looking at a bunch of paper all day. Or I'm just taking some vitals here and there or doing this, this, and take, maybe drawing some blood.
01:24:48: Other than that, I wasn't having anything really inadvertently with it. What I thought was interesting too is that they insulate the staff from that.
01:24:56: There's only very few people who get to see the gruesome part of it. And I think that's to insulate them for what they're actually doing.
01:25:03: Although they know it, but I think it makes it even more real to them when they see that. What you're bringing to light here is that they're not treating, they're treating the patients badly.
01:25:12: They're treating their own staff badly. They're just trying to get people in and out like as quickly as possible.
01:25:18: It's all money. Yeah. Because if they can get them in and out, especially then they also push the surgical. They push that one more.
01:25:27: Yeah. It doesn't make more money. Well, it's not even that they make more money, especially when like they're like, say someone's seven weeks, right?
01:25:35: They're not going to make more money off someone doing surgical versus the medication. They're not going to, because they're the same price.
01:25:41: They're the exact same price. So no matter which way you flipped it, they're the exact same. And they push the surgical because apparently there's like a quota he has to meet for the surgicals themselves.
01:25:53: Not so much the medication, but for the surgical. I'm not sure why. I never was told why.
01:25:58: I just was told that we really need to push surgicals or whatever because of... Well, that would be, that's where I would wonder about the whole selling stuff.
01:26:11: They take it to the bathroom. There's a dirty path and a clean path. So she takes the jar and dumps it into that little, like a little,
01:26:20: I thought it was like a colander. It's like one of those things you kind of like, almost like pull out of something from a deep fryer.
01:26:26: The best way I can describe it, it's kind of like that metal wiring mesh kind of deal.
01:26:31: And then they rinse it out. And then I know that from there, they end up dumping it onto a light table that you'd use for drawing.
01:26:38: And then they'd put it on there to make sure. And sometimes the doctor would actually ask to verify.
01:26:44: I'm not sure exactly. To verify they got everything. Yeah. He would have, he would come in like, okay, I guess he had like a little once over.
01:26:51: And then, okay. And then from there, I know they would put it in a biohazard bag. Sometimes I've seen the biohazard bag.
01:26:57: And then put it in the freezer. And then it sits in the freezer until whoever it is that comes to pick it up.
01:27:06: And one time that freezer actually went out. That was horrible. We ended up having to buy a new freezer and have it sent in.
01:27:14: Like she literally went to like Costco or something and bought like another small. Cause it's not very big. It's about yay wide freezer and about as tall as the table.
01:27:24: So it's not, it's not a very large freezer they keep in there. When it goes out, obviously it stinks in there.
01:27:31: Yeah. Yeah, whenever you would open that dirty path door, it was bad. It was really, really bad.
01:27:38: Just the door to the room. Yeah. Cause that room was sealed pretty well in the first place.
01:27:44: So it was only, you only got to smelt it whenever someone had to open that door. I can just imagine that, you know, the feeling inside that these babies that they had murdered were going to start to stink.
01:27:57: And that there was a bit of a panic for them to get another freezer. I thought that was really telling of what goes on there. Very telling.
01:28:03: It's the reality of bloodshed and murder that's taking, it's the evidence.
01:28:08: Based on what she was saying, it really kind of matches up with the David Daleiden videos that keeping those remains in the freezer, what other purpose would there be for the quotas, right?
01:28:24: It's horrific, right? I mean, imagine you're trying to make sure you've got all the pieces of a dead baby.
01:28:32: New at noon, an important appeals court ruling on a Texas law requiring doctors to perform abortions to show sonograms to patients.
01:28:41: Now, federal appeals court in New Orleans says that Texas can enforce the law.
01:28:50: They only show them if they ask. So if they ask, then they show. I had a couple of patients that came in and they asked me, can
01:28:58: I see it? I'm like, yeah, that's fine, you can see it. No one's like, I'm not going to stop you from seeing it. If you want to see it, just tell them, hey,
01:29:04: I'll tell her in the hallway, make sure that she's aware that you already want to see it. And I would do that at least.
01:29:11: I know other people probably wouldn't have done it, but I would be like, okay, well, hey, this patient in room one wants to be able to see the sonogram, just heads up.
01:29:19: And they're like, oh, okay. But if they don't want, if no one tells them beforehand or they don't tell them, they won't show it.
01:29:27: Okay, well, the fetal Doppler, since our sonogram machines don't do anything with that because they're old.
01:29:34: Yeah, one's a little newer, one's a little older, but they don't have that capability of like sound. So they don't have the sound capability.
01:29:41: And I don't know if that was by coincidence or what, but the fetal, so they have to have, since their sonogram machines don't do that, they have to have the fetal
01:29:49: Dopplers in each room that they have procedures in order to, if say that they want to hear the heartbeat, they'll be able to hear a heartbeat.
01:29:59: I've never, they're still in the box as far as last time I checked because I have never seen anyone bust it out of the box.
01:30:07: Like brand spanking new. Like brand new, still in the box. I think it still has like the paper stuff like wrapped around it.
01:30:17: Well, what you're seeing there in that interview is what we said in Babies Are Still Murdered Here that the industry, the abortion industry, they don't have to follow these pro -life regulations.
01:30:29: There's loopholes. And this is just proof of what we were talking about there that these pro -life regulations will not, they're unenforceable.
01:30:41: Completely unenforceable. They do what they want with those loopholes to fit what they're trying to do, make money.
01:30:49: And again, there's no one that's really standing over his shoulder making sure the Texas state law regarding subtle.
01:30:57: who's supposed to be doing it is the clinic manager. But she's, I don't know, she's gone doing whatever.
01:31:02: Okay. But she doesn't, so she's normally not doing that. Yeah, she's normally either running around like a chicken with her head cut off.
01:31:10: Right. Or she's not even there. Or she's just hanging out in her office talking to one of the other managers. And, yeah.
01:31:16: So that's not happening from the office manager's standpoint? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, okay.
01:31:22: Even though these types of clinics are the enemy, I mean, we as Christians have to be fair to them.
01:31:27: This was one woman. One woman. We didn't have a corroborating testimony from her. So we believe that she has no reason to lie.
01:31:34: Right. And what she says might not have been accurate. I mean, I trust what she said, but we have to keep in mind that this is uncorroborated testimony.
01:31:41: Yeah. And we have to give them that benefit as Christians even though they are the enemy. A few months ago, I remember women coming out of the clinic limping really dramatically.
01:31:51: It looked like probably they had a torn uterus. A bit from just, you know, having been out in front of clinics for a long time.
01:31:58: Just observing and knowing what happens. So do you know of that happening often there?
01:32:07: No. It's only happened once and like the one time since I was there.
01:32:12: And that was because a patient was not listening. And they were trying to like, like, you need to be still.
01:32:18: You know, we don't want to do anything to hurt you. We need you to be still because there's something sharp and stuff like that.
01:32:23: Like, you've got to be still. Okay. And she just kept wiggling and everything. And he's like, well,
01:32:30: I think I just ruptured her uterus because she just wiggled. Like, she literally turned one way and then flipped again really fast.
01:32:38: And so he's like, well, okay. I think that just happened because she won't be still. But the funny thing about that is they only have to,
01:32:48: I guess, file a report of some kind if he knows for a fact he did it.
01:32:56: But if he suspects he did it, they don't have to file a report. So on that one, they suspected.
01:33:03: He said, I suspect I did because the way she was moving and the way she started bleeding, I suspect that I might have.
01:33:10: So, and then, you know, call an ambulance and all that, get her out of there, go get her looked at. to file a report. Yeah, as long as he suspects.
01:33:16: Unless he knows, knows, then they have to file a report. But if he says he suspects it, then they don't have to.
01:33:22: So there's a loophole built in for them so they can dodge it? Pretty much. Another loophole.
01:33:28: Okay. One thing that struck me with interviewing Amanda as well is that if it's not a gospel proclamation,
01:33:34: I mean, we're thrilled that she quit her job. But if she doesn't repent and put her trust in Jesus Christ, she is no closer to heaven for quitting her job.
01:33:40: So our goal is not to get women to quit their jobs. Right. It's not to get women to stop killing their babies.
01:33:46: Ultimately, we want that, but we want it because we want them to be saved. Because if they don't kill their baby for pragmatic or practical reasons or they quit for practical reasons, they're still going to hell.
01:33:56: Right. So that's why I, you as well, believe that we go to the clinics to share the gospel with them because there's a target -rich environment of unbelievers.
01:34:03: Right. Because I don't believe a true believer would go there and kill their child. Yeah. All we will do from here on out is just continue to minister to her needs and continue to, you know, present the gospel to her.
01:34:20: My experience before I came to Christ, I was a pastor for about 12 years. And when
01:34:26: I realized I wasn't even saved, I was pastoring. I was preaching every Sunday, doing all that. And then
01:34:31: God revealed through His Word that, you know, I was a hypocrite because I was doing one thing, saying one thing, you know, and doing completely different.
01:34:42: And so, you know, my concern about anyone that's there, and obviously
01:34:49: I'm including you, I'm going to be direct, you know, would be that, do you really know Christ? You know, knowing
01:34:54: Him changes us to a degree that, man, we wouldn't even want to be a part of it.
01:35:00: And I understand, like, coming out of college, you're looking for work, and it's the job that opened up. Yeah, it was literally boom, boom.
01:35:07: Like, it was like, I got done with medical assisting school, like, in February, I was there in March.
01:35:13: Right. It was just boom, boom. It was quick. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, the thing I encourage everybody in the
01:35:19: Bible Belt is two questions. Number one, what is the gospel? What's the content of the message?
01:35:25: Well, obviously, Christ died for sinners. He rose from the dead. Our sins can be forgiven if we repent and place our faith in Him.
01:35:32: But then the second question, I think, is more important, is what difference does that message make in our lives?
01:35:39: And if there's no difference between us and, like, what is going on in the life of an unbeliever, doesn't even, maybe an atheist or whatever, then we have reason to be concerned, you know.
01:35:51: And so I say that to you out of concern for you, you know, that you know Christ and that ultimately one day that you're in His presence, you know, apart from, you know, all the garbage that we face in this life.
01:36:06: And so our desire is, you know, hopefully one day God will, you know, if we're,
01:36:12: I don't know your heart. Only God knows people's hearts. But, you know, if you're not, if you haven't trusted
01:36:19: Christ, that's our desire is to see that happen. We can't make that happen. Right. You know, we don't do that whole walk the aisle, pray the prayer thing.
01:36:26: You know, we believe if God's going to do something, He'll do it. So that's how we leave that. But, yeah, and you know that we're,
01:36:34: I've expressed this to you before, but we're available for whatever you need. You know, as you're looking for a job, we'll help you do that.
01:36:42: You know, try to help out where we can. Well, initially when we had these people coming in all the time, like, literally they were here in February.
01:38:17: And next thing you know, like, that name looks familiar. Why does that name look familiar? And then all of a sudden you see it, like, wait, oh, that's why it looks familiar.
01:38:24: She was here in February. Now she's back in April. And then, okay, she was here, and then all of a sudden you see the same name again.
01:38:30: Like, what is this? And then, like, it's June, and she's back again. It's like, do you not understand what's happening here?
01:38:38: Nope. Yeah, once they're in path, they take the, so she takes the jar and dumps it into that little, like a little, is that even like a colander?
01:39:22: It's like one of those things you kind of like, almost like pull out of something from a deep fryer. And the best way
01:39:27: I can describe it is kind of like that metal wiring mesh kind of deal. And then they rinse it out, and then
01:39:34: I know that from there they end up dumping it onto a light table that you'd use for drawing. Have the two, two, like, small, like,
01:39:43: I guess it would be like the best way to describe it is a casserole dish. Like, clear casserole dishes, like really small ones. And then they put it on there to make sure, and sometimes the doctor would actually ask to verify.
01:39:56: It was really sporadic if he did. It was like here, there, just, I guess, sometimes if he wasn't sure,
01:40:03: I'm not sure exactly. To verify they got everything? Yeah. He would come in, like, okay, and I guess he would have like a little once -over.
01:40:09: Okay, and then from there I know they would put it in a biohazard bag. Sometimes I've seen the biohazard bag.
01:40:16: And then put it in the freezer. And then it sits in the freezer until whoever it is that comes to pick it up.
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01:42:06: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
01:42:16: That all has happened and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
01:42:25: Right now in the state of Arizona we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate, to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
01:42:35: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law and that is admitted now.
01:42:43: Number one, we don't know exactly what she would do. The expectation is that she may very well move to overview overrule
01:42:52: Roe. The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
01:42:58: Roe the law of the land. That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v.
01:43:04: Wade is a court opinion and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
01:43:12: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion.
01:43:23: They call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves. You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that worldview.
01:43:31: The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what Christians would call it. We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice.
01:43:46: We've been able to do that through your support. Over 615 local churches now out saving thousands of lives.
01:43:52: We have now established other media ministries. We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios.
01:44:04: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
01:44:15: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
01:44:22: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
01:44:35: God has made this movement global and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
01:44:43: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
01:44:53: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
01:44:59: You've helped us to do that and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
01:45:05: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed.
01:45:10: And right now, we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
01:45:22: Roe versus Wade and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
01:45:29: It's already being submitted. And all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
01:45:35: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these preborn children.
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01:46:27: That's all there is to it. Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
01:46:37: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
01:46:53: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
01:46:59: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
01:47:05: Ten years ago we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying, end it.
01:47:13: It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here. Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
01:47:36: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
01:47:42: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
01:47:49: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
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01:48:03: It's a business. When you give this to the church, the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny.
01:48:12: Brothers and sisters, will you give? Help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021.
01:48:20: Will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
01:48:26: Christian church? Help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now.
01:48:36: That's what's happening. So many churches, so many lives saved. Now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content, with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country.
01:48:51: Will you partner with a Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all?
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01:49:34: Join us for 2021, brothers and sisters. I'd be so grateful if you did. Thank you.
01:49:42: Thank you. Thank you. How are you guys? Good to see everybody.
01:49:48: Praise God. Thank you for having me. I'm just going to read a scripture for you real fast. If you would, just take a moment to pay close attention to this.
01:49:59: Proverbs 24, verse 11. Here's what it says. Rescue those who are being taken away to death.
01:50:06: Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, behold, we did not know this.
01:50:14: Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it?
01:50:21: And will he not repay man according to his work? That's a powerful text of scripture.
01:50:28: And if you heard it, you heard, that's you. And that's me.
01:50:35: Rescue those who are being led away to the slaughter, being taken away to death. And the answer from scripture, from the
01:50:41: God of this scripture, the God that established this nation, is that if you say, we didn't know, we didn't know.
01:50:50: It says, doesn't he who weighs the heart know it? Doesn't he know that we know? And will he not repay man according to his deeds?
01:51:00: It's a powerful text of scripture. It's a challenging text of scripture that challenged us.
01:51:05: I'm a pastor of a church in Phoenix. It challenged us about a decade ago. Of course, we were
01:51:11: Christian. Of course, we were pro -life. Of course, we thought the pro -life industry was doing their duty to end abortion in our nation.
01:51:17: And we learned that they're not. Their focus is regulation, not abolition.
01:51:23: It's regulation and not criminalization. They have professed themselves that they are not
01:51:30: Christian institutions. They are not standing on scripture. And we learned very early on that if we are going to end this, we need to end it with courage as Christians first and foremost.
01:51:40: First and foremost. Have you all noticed? I'm sure you've noticed lately. None of us can deny this now.
01:51:47: Have you noticed lately that the radical left, those who would be self -professed, unbelievers, do not want to compromise on their positions?
01:51:57: They say, this is our position. This is what we're fighting for. This is what we're doing. And have you noticed that conservatives, those who profess to be followers of Christ, even, are the ones who are always compromising.
01:52:11: The ones who will not exhibit courage. Courage enough to believe this. If you are not with me, you are against me.
01:52:18: Those are the words of Jesus. If you're not with me, you are against me. I want to encourage you guys to think about something for a moment.
01:52:27: This man over here, Walt Blackman, he's not just a good man, a strong man, a courageous man.
01:52:33: I want you to know this, and you're going to be seeing this a lot in our state over the next couple of months. This man is the hero of the children in Arizona.
01:52:43: And I want to explain to you why. Many of you may not even know this. It hasn't become fully public yet, completely, so that everyone can know about it.
01:52:51: Right now in Arizona, please hear this, this is massive, it is earth -shattering, and it is mind -altering, trust me.
01:52:59: In Arizona, it's never been changed. AZ Statute 13 -3603
01:53:05: AZ Statute 13 -3603 makes abortion a criminal act in Arizona.
01:53:12: It has never been changed. This man, this man, the hero of the children in Arizona, is going to point to that statute and establish that law so that abortion is not regulated in Arizona.
01:53:28: It is a criminal act. Abortion is murder. We are human from conception.
01:53:39: Listen closely. You win this argument. There is no way to surmount this argument and outdo it, overcome it.
01:53:48: Number one, biblically speaking, God says that he's the creator of life. He knits us together in our mother's womb.
01:53:54: We are human beings, image of God from conception. That cannot be disputed. Number two, biologically speaking, it is a matter of scientific fact that from the moment of conception, the moment of conception, you are human from that very moment.
01:54:11: The only difference from that moment to where you are now is a difference of degree, size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependence.
01:54:20: All this talk about Black Lives Matter, I want to know if the black lives in the womb matter because the black community is the community most in danger from extermination via abortion.
01:54:39: We have about 3 ,000 human beings exterminated, murdered.
01:54:45: Listen, I know we're trying to have a good time and a good rally here, but I've got to be honest and courageous enough to tell the truth.
01:54:52: Every day in our nation, in our streets, in our neighborhoods, every single day, 3 ,000, about 3 ,000 human beings lose their lives.
01:55:01: They have their heads cut off, their arms taken off their bodies, their legs taken off their bodies, and they are disemboweled every single day.
01:55:13: And I want to grant something as a minister of the gospel. That is not something any of us can fully comprehend.
01:55:20: All we can do is think about it one baby at a time. So we started going out as a church many years ago with the gospel of Jesus Christ first and foremost to the abortion mills.
01:55:31: We said, number one, Mom and Dad, please don't murder your child. Number two, there is hope in Christ, forgiveness in Christ.
01:55:38: And number three, we will help you. We will pay for everything. We'll even adopt your child. Because of that work, we've raised up 500 churches globally doing the same.
01:55:48: And as of today, thousands and thousands and thousands of children are alive today because of that work.
01:55:58: I have a son who is eight months old. He's adopted.
01:56:04: He was going to be exterminated and aborted. We have children who are at my church.
01:56:10: They show up before the pulpit running around circles in front. Olivia Grace and Cara, twin girls saved from Tempe's Planned Parenthood because Christians went out with the gospel of Jesus Christ and offered to help and called it what it is.
01:56:24: This is murder and we won't tolerate it anymore. And so what I want to ask of you is this.
01:56:29: Is to consider this. What's happening in our country is very simply this. It is a collision of world views.
01:56:37: It is the world and life view of those who stand on this revelation as the truth of the living God. This is the objective standard and those who deny it.
01:56:46: Did you know that this nation, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the reason that is so meaningful and brought so much peace and freedom and justice is because the principles behind all those things come directly from this book.
01:57:01: This book. The people who established this nation, the
01:57:06: Huguenots, the pilgrims, the Puritans, the Christians who came over and established this nation.
01:57:12: Did you know this? Did you know this? In the colonies, they named the Triune God of the
01:57:18: Holy Scriptures as the God over their state. When they would make treaties with other nations, they would make that treaty in the name of the
01:57:25: Triune God of the Holy Scriptures. They knew that this book is the standard of all truth.
01:57:33: And did you know that John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice, when he was creating the case law system of our nation, our first Supreme Court Justice, he would name directly the verses from which he was establishing the law on this nation.
01:57:47: If you want to know where we've gone, you need to look at how far we've departed from this revelation.
01:57:53: And I want to encourage you, if you're someone who professes faith in Jesus Christ, you call this the truth, stand on this truth.
01:58:00: Be courageous. And please hear me on this. Over the next few months, we're going to need you. We're going to need you because when...
01:58:08: Where'd he go? When the hero of Arizona's children calls abortion what it is, murder, and says it will no longer be tolerated and we're going to criminalize this, there's going to be two things coming at Walt.
01:58:21: You need to know what it is. Number one, the pro -choicers, the pro -aborts, the people who say we should be able to murder our children in the womb.
01:58:28: And please hear me on this and please be gracious enough and humble enough to hear me because I am not the enemy.
01:58:36: The pro -life industry that does not want to criminalize it, does not want to call it murder, that wants to regulate it, they will also come against Walt trying to stop what he's doing.
01:58:48: I've seen it in another state, Oklahoma. In Oklahoma, there was a senator named Joseph Silk who put a bill into criminalize abortion immediately.
01:58:57: Do you know who the opposition was? The pro -life industry. They stopped it. So if you want to give money to somebody to help them stop abortion in this state, give it to Walt Blackman.
01:59:11: If you want to give money, give it to the Christian churches who are ending abortion and not regulating it.
01:59:19: And if you want peace and righteousness and justice and freedom to prevail in this country, it isn't going to be through mere political commitments.
01:59:27: It's only going to be because of what Christians said in the past to establish this nation. Are you ready for it?
01:59:33: And I'm almost done. This is, by the way, a miracle you're seeing right now. They told me I had five minutes. That's only about an hour less than I usually go.
01:59:40: Here's the answer to the hope of this nation. No king but Christ. That's the answer.
01:59:50: The gospel is the answer. The problem we see with the rioting and looting and sin in our streets is just that, sin.
01:59:57: The answer to our problem of sin is peace with God through Jesus Christ. Jesus is
02:00:02: God in the flesh, lived perfectly, died for sinners and rose again from the dead. The only hope of anybody in this world is through faith in Him.
02:00:10: The call of the gospel is to repent and believe the gospel. Come to Christ for life. Join us as we criminalize the injustice of abortion in this state.
02:00:20: Be courageous. No compromise. This is murder and it's ending in our state.
02:00:25: Thank you. So I'm going to bring up in a moment here a Rusty Thomas. Some of you guys probably heard this story before but was friends with Marcus and he sent me a private screening of Babies Are Murdered Here.
02:00:39: This is many years ago. I dropped my kids off. They're homeschooled. They have a co -op and so I drove across town.
02:00:46: I dropped the kids off. I see Marcus' message come in. The Dropbox file. I can preview
02:00:51: Babies Are Murdered Here before everyone else sees it. And I'm in my car after I dropped my kids off.
02:00:58: I did not know who Rusty Thomas was but I sat there in the parking lot and I watched
02:01:03: Babies Are Murdered Here in the parking lot of my children's co -op all the way through. And there are moments in my life that I can mark as very profound that feel like yesterday that were totally transformative for me.
02:01:18: Moments. Not a lot but there's spots there and I can always point to those moments where God did something enormous in my life to change my heart, to change my mind, to put me on a new course that affected so much of where you see we are today.
02:01:33: And this was one of those moments. Again, never had known who Rusty was but I'm in my car and I'm watching
02:01:41: Rusty preach and my life was totally transformed from that moment in my car watching on my smart phone from a
02:01:50: Dropbox file. I was in my car and I was weeping.
02:01:59: Weeping during that sermon. And I became completely convicted and challenged.
02:02:05: I would have identified my whole Christian life as pro -life. I would have told you that abortion is wrong and every year
02:02:14: I think even from when we planted Apologia Church it wasn't many years before we started this but on a particular
02:02:21: Sunday I would preach a pro -life sermon which is the norm, right?
02:02:26: You preach that pro -life sermon on that day. You talk about pro -life issues at Starbucks and in your
02:02:31: Christian bubble and that's pretty much the extent of it. And after God used Rusty's sermon in my life it went from Starbucks to our little huddle to the world and it was because of a very faithful message.
02:02:45: Preacher Rusty Thomas who has now become one of my friends, solid brother and a mentor and father in the faith.
02:02:51: So Rusty Thomas come on up brother. And I actually have a really cool, two cool experiences with Rusty I'll share with you just on a personal level.
02:03:29: One is I got to sit in Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office for about an hour with Rusty, my son and Sheriff Joe which
02:03:40: I never thought. How did that happen by the way? I don't know. Okay. It's a
02:03:46: God thing. And it was a God thing. And so we were with Sheriff Joe for about an hour talking to him about the cause of abolition and sad to say but I'll go ahead and share with everybody here.
02:03:57: Sad to say it never happened but basically he was up for re -election and he did tell us in his office that day that if it was his last time being elected it was going to be his last run.
02:04:08: If he was re -elected he was essentially going to criminalize abortion. The doctrine of the lesser man.
02:04:14: Yeah. In Maricopa County in Phoenix he was just essentially going to wave the banner of him as Sheriff Joe and toughest sheriff in America and he was essentially going to say no more abortions allowed.
02:04:25: And then George Soros funded his opponent's campaign and he won and so Sheriff Joe didn't.
02:04:31: But it was actually an amazing experience to see that if you get in front of a sheriff like Sheriff Joe he was willing to actually put his neck out and say
02:04:40: I'll stop the murder of children in Maricopa County. Unfortunately in God's providence he wasn't allowed to be sheriff again but it did open my eyes to something.
02:04:49: These sheriffs are out there and I think that they will do their duty if Christians will get in front of them and call them to consistency.
02:04:58: So that was my first story with Rusty. Second one is fairly recently we had a difficult last couple of months of ministry.
02:05:06: I don't think I told you this but I had all this stuff going on in my head just praying and everything else. I sat down with Rusty and I was there to minister to him and it turned into two hours of him basically telling me everything that was in my head.
02:05:19: It was one of the most divine things in my life and I just wanted to share that with you. It was really crazy. I was there for you and the next thing you know it was two hours of you ministering to me and telling me everything that I had been praying about and thinking about.
02:05:31: I don't know if you saw my face the two hours we were sitting there having lunch together. I don't know if I looked like a deer in the headlights but I was thinking how does he know everything that I've been asking
02:05:41: God about and you just were speaking to me and I was supposed to be there for you so I'm sorry. Were you there? You were there for me brother.
02:05:48: You were there for me and it meant a lot. It meant a lot to not just me personally but my family.
02:05:54: Praise God. Thank you for that. Of course. Of course. Thank you. So Rusty you've been doing this for a very, very long time.
02:06:04: Go ahead and tell us what does this mean to you to see a consistent bill listen to Senator Silk a moment ago.
02:06:13: Where in the world did he come from? Well we had been praying for him a long time.
02:06:19: I know. We didn't know it was him but the prayers were there for a very long time. Right. Yeah. Well what's it mean to you to see all this coming to fruition?
02:06:27: I mean you've been standing outside of abortion mills with the ashes of dead babies falling on your head.
02:06:34: What's this mean to you to see all this? Well when we started
02:06:42: Jeff I think a lot of us that are older in this room a lot of us got birth in this battle in the fall of 1988 at the
02:06:53: Atlanta Democratic National Convention and my own personal story was
02:07:03: I was always a preacher of righteousness. I was a pastor I was an evangelist
02:07:08: I didn't shy away from the burning issues of the day and I even back then I was saying abortion was murder.
02:07:18: And of course there was a huge struggle because I was saying one thing but I was living entirely different kind of life.
02:07:29: And so my rhetoric and my actions were not consistent with the almighty.
02:07:36: And so the way the Lord kind of did some things that actually set me up is he
02:07:44: I came across this videotape called the Massacre of Innocence.
02:07:50: And up to that point abortion was something we kind of argued about. You know you had pro -life rebuttals to pro -choice arguments and things of this nature.
02:08:02: So it was an issue we debated like back and forth. But up until that time
02:08:09: I had never seen an abortion. And so this pastor friend
02:08:16: I call him a friend he absolutely ruined my life. Because he gave me that videotape.
02:08:26: And so one night I was all alone and put the tape on and it was first theological it was doctrinal it was tracing the roots of child sacrifice the shedding of innocent blood biblically.
02:08:42: And he did a tremendous job it was Eric Holmberg did a tremendous job biblically but it was the latter part of the video that it was my
02:08:54: Isaiah 6 moment where I literally had saw the Lord and his mind moving towards this.
02:09:02: And so he had this the old rocker Pat Benatar and she had a song about child abuse called
02:09:10: Hell is for Children. And every time she screams Hell is for Children there were like pictures of a boarded baby and I'm literally seeing like arms and legs like severed from the torso decapitated heads and it was like blood everywhere.
02:09:38: To tell you I was not prepared for that assault upon my mind my emotions my inner man.
02:09:48: I just it was too much and I literally turned off the tape
02:09:54: I ran into my bedroom and I just lied prostrate before God and I'm talking about a wailing so intense that my chest hurt.
02:10:03: It was like an accordion like there was sounds coming out of me like a wounded animal I couldn't believe this nation that I loved had sunk to this level of depravity and wickedness.
02:10:17: And so I was undone I was literally undone. And then a week later
02:10:23: I'm watching TV I'm watching Christians at death camps singing praises to God praying and being arrested and hauled away from death camps living out the doctrine of interposition to save these babies lives and I'm like what meaneth this?
02:10:49: And then a week later this all happened within three weeks a week later
02:10:54: I get a knock at a door from a local pastor and he asks me am
02:11:01: I the pastor of this church? And I said yes sir I am. He says we need to talk. And I said talk about what?
02:11:09: He said I just got back from Atlanta. You were in Atlanta?
02:11:18: And he said yes sir. And as soon as he said that tears started streaming down my face and I said yes sir we have to talk.
02:11:27: What is happening? What's going on here? He said I'll tell you what's happening is
02:11:33: God is birthing a spirit of repentance in the church of the living
02:11:39: God because up to this point we had pointed our finger at the Supreme Court we pointed our finger at the pro -choice groups we pointed our finger at the usual suspects but this is the first time we're pointing the finger at the church of the living
02:11:58: God. And God used that to birth repentance and the fruit of the repentance was living out the doctrine of interposition.
02:12:08: And so brother that was the start of actually awakening the evangelical church to the evils of abortion.
02:12:19: Now through the years obviously it's gone up and down and back and forth and things of this nature.
02:12:27: And when we started we could only see from afar what is taking place right now and then through the years
02:12:35: God has raised up different brothers and different sisters. I mean the work that was started here in Oklahoma with the abolitionist movement with men like Russell Hunter and Josh Malone and others in this area you know we in the rescue movement had the same biblical principles.
02:12:58: There was no compromise, no exceptions but I gotta tell you there was men like Russell and others that God used to really tighten and refine the language and the terminology and to tighten up the principles and then all of a sudden you know
02:13:18: God uses Pastor Matt Chuella who you know produces this tremendous work, the doctrine of the lesser magistrate and as far as I am concerned that is the book for this time in our nation's history.
02:13:42: And so what has happened you have sort of the old time rescuers who always believed these things to be true but through others like Russell, like Pastor Matt, like others they actually took those biblical principles and created a platform that we can now stand on those principles and bring it into the political realm.
02:14:15: This is huge. One of the reasons why I never fought the battle politically
02:14:20: I always fought it culturally, I always fought it on the streets and then the churches.
02:14:26: One of the reasons why we could not according to conscience fight this battle biblically politically is because we were compromised to our core.
02:14:39: We were making deals with the devil that God did not give us the moral authority to make.
02:14:47: And so when these brothers came along they literally, what they provided for the church of Jesus Christ is a solid foundation that honors the
02:15:05: Lord, that upholds his truth and his commandment and now we're bringing it into the political realm to once again disciple the magistrate and call them to do their duty which is to use their lawful authority to interpose, to welcome these children into this life and protect them by law.
02:15:32: Huge. So people may not be able to tell from your hat, you're a
02:15:42: Texan. Where's Russ? Where is he? You guys are kind of in a race to see who will be the first state, right?
02:15:53: You trying anyways? The first state to abolish abortion? I think we're all sort of competitive by nature.
02:16:00: But here's the thing though, Russ has helped us in Texas and of course we help him here.
02:16:06: Absolutely. You guys have the anti -Joseph Silk there in Texas don't you? An anti -Joseph
02:16:12: Silk? Yeah. Who's that? Senator Leach. Oh lord have mercy. Did you have to bring that up?
02:16:18: Well here's what I want to ask you. What can Texans or non -Texans do to help you guys in Texas in your fight, what you got going on?
02:16:29: Okay, well just give you a little update on that. First of all, thank you for all of you that reached out to our family when we went through our situation with our son
02:16:45: Jeremiah. And I do want you to know that God did not waste his life nor his death.
02:16:51: And God powerfully used it in the state of Texas. And you're going to be interviewing
02:16:59: Bradley Pierce right after me. He was very instrumental in taking what
02:17:08: God worked through Jeremiah to build a little army in the state of Texas with the
02:17:15: Jeremiah Wish campaign. And he'll tell you more how God prospered that.
02:17:22: How many saw the actual hearing in Texas when hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of abolitionists addressed that committee?
02:17:36: It might have been a world record, I don't know. It might be one of the longest hearings in history because we started in the evening and we didn't end until like 3 or 4 o 'clock in the morning.
02:17:50: Incredible. Now, we did make history. That was the first time a bill of abolition was allowed a hearing.
02:18:01: And God's people showed up in force. And I believe it was
02:18:11: Thomas Hoffling who has run for president under the American Party. He said before the committee there, do you recognize what's happening right now?
02:18:23: Are you hearing what is happening? He said, this is the death rattle of the pro -life movement.
02:18:29: And you don't even know it. You don't even know it, but it's happening.
02:18:36: And I gotta tell you, brothers and sisters, the toothpaste is out of the tube and it's not going back in.
02:18:42: This is the future. In Jesus' mighty name, you mark it down. Amen?
02:18:48: The train is leaving the station and it's time to get on board. But anyway, you know,
02:18:56: Jeff Leach was very personable. He was patient.
02:19:03: He was somewhat kind. And he was, you know, patronizing to Kendra and I over the loss of our son.
02:19:16: And we appreciated that. Honestly, we did. But the fact of the matter is when it came to a bill of abolition that would completely outlaw abortion in the state of Texas, he said because there's a penalty against the woman,
02:19:39: I cannot in good conscience support the bill. So he allowed that bill to die in committee.
02:19:49: So it never got out so people can vote on it. But I gotta tell you, brothers and sisters, these bills of abolition are so critically important because what
02:19:58: Luke is getting here at is that there are pro -life politicians who
02:20:08: I truly believe want to end the suffering and the injustice against the preborn but they're getting their marching orders from pro -life organizations that allow them an easier way to deal with this issue.
02:20:27: So one of the things that the bill of abolition does, it does separate the wheat from the chaff.
02:20:34: Do you understand what I mean? It begins to expose those who say they're pro -life only to get votes for their campaign and check it off.
02:20:45: Okay? And so Jeff Leach really was exposed.
02:20:51: Now here's the iron of it. He is now known as a pro -life champion in Texas getting all kinds of awards and yet it was him and his committee that killed, allowed to die, the only bill that would actually have ended the suffering and the injustice against the preborn.
02:21:13: And so that's being exposed right now. Can I have you stress that again? Especially for people who are maybe just jumping on this live stream that missed the first half as we're talking about the pro -life lobby and the pro -life industry, their methodology.
02:21:26: I saw Leach at the March for Life do a live stream and I struggled to watch it.
02:21:37: I really did. I want to pray for the man. I want to show as much respect and as grace towards him as I possibly can.
02:21:43: But I know that he's responsible for stopping the bill that would have actually ended and criminalized abortion in the state of Texas.
02:21:51: And he was doing a live stream talking about life and pro -life and these different things in Washington.
02:21:57: All the while he stopped the bill that would have criminalized and ended it. That's a heavy weight on his shoulders that he will answer for.
02:22:06: It's 110 ,000 children that will be butchered in the state of Texas.
02:22:14: And we have to wait two more years before we can address it and put forth another bill of abolition.
02:22:21: So we pray for his repentance. But he is responsible. And again as people are getting onto this live stream or they're hearing about this for the first time we are really criticizing the pro -life movement and we're doing a lot to expose the inconsistencies.
02:22:42: But it is ultimately the inconsistencies of the pro -life movement, the pro -life legislators that is ultimately keeping abortion from being ended and abolished.
02:22:54: And so a man like Leach is responsible in Texas. He's the pro -life champion that stopped the bill to criminalize and end abortion.
02:23:04: I know it seems tinfoil hat. It seems conspiracy theory. It seems like that's wild and it can't be the case.
02:23:12: But it is the case that the pro -life movement is keeping abortion alive. Just to give you sort of a biblical narrative.
02:23:22: You know you think about the Apostle Paul. You know where he's starting his great missionary work, right?
02:23:29: And so he's blazing a trail. He's introducing the gospel of the kingdom into the world.
02:23:36: God is establishing his beachhead these local churches throughout his missionary journeys.
02:23:43: And who comes behind him to undo and destroy the work?
02:23:50: The Judaizers. The Judaizers. Right? To get everybody back on the religious reservation.
02:24:02: Right? And so literally this is what we're seeing as we're moving throughout the land from city to city, state to state introducing this movement of abolition.
02:24:14: Who are the ones following behind to make sure the legislators and make sure the magistrates get back on the pro -life reservation?
02:24:25: It is these pro -life organizations. And so here's the problem, guys.
02:24:32: See, this is a cozy arrangement where everybody gets what they want, right? So the pro -life politician gets their vote.
02:24:40: The pro -life and pro -family groups get money. They take pictures together. One provides cover for the other.
02:24:49: Everybody gets what they want except the one who needs our help the most, and that is that pre -born child.
02:24:58: And so I gotta tell you this unholy alliance needs to be broken in the mighty name of Jesus!
02:25:15: And we gotta get back to God's program. Which honestly what we're seeking is three things.
02:25:23: States, city, county, states, ignore all, establish justice, and abolish all abortion now.
02:25:42: That is the message. That is the mission. And the Church of Jesus Christ, we need to get back to God and fight this battle
02:25:53: His way with His tools and His word that He has granted to us.
02:26:00: No more compromise. No more regulating baby murder.
02:26:06: Rise up and end it once and for all in Jesus' name. Amen? Hi, I'm Jeff Durbin, pastor of Apologia Church and the head of EndAbortionNow .com.
02:26:25: I am so excited to present to you what God has done over the last year through your prayers and your support, all that you've done to partner with us as a
02:26:33: Christian church trying to equip other Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children.
02:26:43: Years ago when we started this ministry, we told you that we were a Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel.
02:26:49: We did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion. We wanted to establish justice, to abolish this, to criminalize it, and to end it once and for all.
02:26:59: When we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free.
02:27:04: We wanted to educate them. We wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
02:27:10: As of today, over 615 local churches have signed up. They have been equipped.
02:27:15: They have been trained. They've gotten free resources. We haven't taken anything from these churches. We've wanted only to give to them.
02:27:21: And through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free.
02:27:29: Over 615 churches, countless lives have been saved at this point. Thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved, and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us.
02:27:42: You gave to this church to equip these churches, and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
02:27:48: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
02:27:56: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
02:28:03: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel, demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
02:28:14: That all has happened, and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
02:28:23: Right now in the state of Arizona, we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate, to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
02:28:32: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law, and that is admitted now.
02:28:40: Number one, we don't know exactly what she would do. The expectation is that she may very well move to overview over rule
02:28:50: Roe. The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
02:28:55: Roe the law of the land. That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v.
02:29:01: Wade is a court opinion, and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
02:29:09: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has.
02:29:16: Where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion, they call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves.
02:29:25: You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that worldview. The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what
02:29:32: Christians would call it. We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice.
02:29:44: We've been able to do that through your support. Over 615 local churches now out -saving thousands of lives.
02:29:49: We have now established other media ministries. We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content just like Apologia Studios.
02:30:02: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
02:30:13: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
02:30:19: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
02:30:33: God has made this movement global, and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
02:30:40: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
02:30:50: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
02:30:57: You've helped us to do that, and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
02:31:02: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed, and right now we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
02:31:19: Roe versus Wade, and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
02:31:26: It's already being submitted, and all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
02:31:33: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these pre -born children.
02:31:40: Will you join us again in 2021? Of course, pray for us. Of course, please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com
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02:31:53: We need your help to save lives, but also partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together, and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation.
02:32:07: Help us to meet our matching donation for 2020. Help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb.
02:32:19: When you give to EndAbortionNow .com, you're giving to equip local churches to save lives. That's all there is to it.
02:32:26: Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
02:32:34: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
02:32:51: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
02:32:57: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
02:33:02: Ten years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying end it.
02:33:11: It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here. Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
02:33:33: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
02:33:39: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
02:33:47: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
02:33:55: God has done. We never ask for another penny. The pro -life industry is an industry.
02:34:01: It's a business. When you give this to the church, the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny.
02:34:10: Brothers and sisters, will you give? Help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021.
02:34:18: Will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
02:34:23: Christian church? Help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now.
02:34:33: That's what's happening. So many churches, so many lives saved. Now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content, with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country.
02:34:49: Will you partner with a Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all?
02:34:57: We can celebrate together when we never ask for another penny from a
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02:35:15: to give towards the work of 2021. All of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives, creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature.
02:35:32: Join us for 2021, brothers and sisters. I'd be so grateful if you did. Thank you everyone again for tuning in to this tonight.
02:35:42: I'm super excited to be able to speak to everyone tonight. If you don't know who I am, my name is Luke Pearson and I'm the
02:35:48: Discipleship Pastor at Apologia Church here in Mesa, Arizona and also one of the co -founders of End Abortion Now.
02:35:56: And like I said, it's an absolute honor and privilege to be speaking to you tonight.
02:36:02: My dear friend and brother and really, I consider my father in this fight,
02:36:09: Rusty Thomas, who I see you sitting there in the front row, brother. He asked us to prepare what he called the message that we would give to any magistrate or pastor if given the opportunity.
02:36:23: So you just heard one of my best friends and one of my fellow elders here at Apologia do an excellent job of presenting a biblical view of cowardice.
02:36:33: And now I want to follow up with an open message to any and all pastors or magistrates admonishing you to be courageous and to stand tall in this fight to end the slaughter of our pre -born neighbors and their mother's wombs.
02:36:49: To boldly make decisions based upon biblical principles of truth and to lead by example, even if you are all alone.
02:36:59: I have a quote here from Charles Spurgeon. He once said that the weakest of minds are those which go forward because they are born along by the throng.
02:37:09: The truly strong are accustomed to stand alone and are not cast down if they find themselves in a minority.
02:37:17: So you may feel like you're in the minority, but when you fight on the side of Almighty God, you are never truly alone and never ever in the minority.
02:37:30: Before getting too far into this message, I want to tell you a quick story.
02:37:37: Which by the way, I know Rusty gave the three of us about an hour and a half, so we'll see how we do with that.
02:37:43: We're used to each speaking at least an hour. Pastor Jeff's after me and an hour would be a miracle.
02:37:51: So, we're going to do our best to get done in an hour and a half here. I want to tell you a quick story. Back in the first week of March of this year,
02:38:00: B .C. as I call it, before COVID, Pastor Zach, myself, and Pastor Jeff, who's up next, we had the unforgettable and life -changing opportunity to go on the
02:38:12: Covenanter tour in Edinburgh, Scotland. Without getting too far off topic, it was amazing.
02:38:20: We were able to see the church and the pulpit of John Knox, his house, his grave where he's literally buried in a parking lot.
02:38:29: What an amazing man. If you don't know much about him, you need to study up on him.
02:38:35: He's an amazing Scottish reformer. We also saw, we went to the museum and we saw the
02:38:40: Scottish National Covenant of 1638. It was literally signed in blood by the
02:38:48: Covenanters. They signed their names in their own blood. These are the same faithful men who ultimately founded our nation.
02:38:55: We saw the devices used to torture them. We heard incredible stories of their martyrdom and even touched.
02:39:02: We laid our hands upon the blood -stained guillotine used to behead them.
02:39:08: Literally, I'm not exaggerating when I say this, as soon as we finished the tour, we stood there in utter awe and amazement.
02:39:15: We were ready and willing and inspired to fight. We literally asked ourselves, we looked at each other and we said, what is
02:39:23: God preparing us for? The moment we landed back in the U .S.,
02:39:28: within two to three days of us landing back, COVID hit. And immediately we were forced with a decision, even if we should gather or not gather for worship.
02:39:38: Needless to say, we were left with no choice but to defy tyranny at all cost.
02:39:45: John Knox himself once said, resistance to tyranny is obedient to God.
02:39:51: And I now want to encourage you to do the same. But before going any further, let's look at the main passage of Scripture that I want to drive home tonight.
02:40:01: It's Proverbs 24, 10 through 12. It says, if you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small.
02:40:08: Rescue those who are being taken away to death. Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, behold, we did not know this.
02:40:16: Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it?
02:40:22: And will he not repay man according to his work? Before going any further,
02:40:28: I'd like to start off in prayer. Lord, I thank you once again for this opportunity to be here tonight and to preach this message,
02:40:37: Lord. I ask that you get me out of the way. Lord, I ask that you use this conference, these messages tonight,
02:40:42: Lord, for your glory. I ask that you would use them to end this modern holocaust in our nation. Use them to encourage and inspire and motivate pastors and legislators.
02:40:53: And most of all, Lord, be asked that you would be glorified in Christ. In me pray. Amen. So, a brief outline of my talk tonight.
02:41:02: First, I want to look at two stories from scripture that I hope and pray will inspire you to take courage.
02:41:08: And then next, I will speak directly to pastors and then directly to legislators. And lastly, I will close by admonishing everyone together.
02:41:16: So, the stories I want to talk about, the first one is David and Goliath, which we're probably all familiar with.
02:41:22: 1 Samuel chapter 17. We all know the story, right? But I think we often look at what is actually said.
02:41:30: So, David first came to the Israelite camp and he saw Goliath for the very first time. And Goliath literally says he was breeding threats against the
02:41:38: Israelite army. Verse 26 here is David's response to Goliath. He says, For who is this uncircumcised
02:41:46: Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God? So, notice
02:41:51: David's immediate boldness and courage. While the entire Israelite army was hiding in utter fear,
02:41:59: David was not at all impressed by Goliath. After declining Saul's armor, he went and he collected the five stones for his sling and he approached
02:42:08: Goliath. So, Goliath's reaction then to David when he approached him in verses 43 and 44 was this,
02:42:15: Am I a dog that you come to me with sticks? Come to me and I will give your flesh to the birds of the air and to the beasts of the field.
02:42:24: Scripture says that Goliath actually disdained David and cursed him by his gods.
02:42:31: So, here's David's reply then in verses 45 to 47. He says, You come to me with a sword and a spear and with a javelin, but I come to you in the name of the
02:42:38: Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel whom you have defied.
02:42:45: This day the Lord will deliver you into my hand and I will strike you down and cut off your head, and I will give you the dead bodies of the hosts of the
02:42:52: Philistines this day to the birds of the air and to the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a
02:42:59: God in Israel and that all this assembly may know that the Lord saves not with sword and spear, for the battle is the
02:43:06: Lord's and he will give you into our hand. So, the point
02:43:11: I want us to get here is how often do we have the same courage that David had? How often do we face our enemies with that much confidence?
02:43:22: I believe Goliath is a perfect picture of the culture that we're currently facing, the same spiteful,
02:43:28: God -hating attitude that we're up against. When the big, mean, haughty culture is bearing down, when they say,
02:43:36: Are we dogs that you come to us with a book? Our response should not be to duck and cover or run and hide.
02:43:45: We should not cowardly retreat. Our response should be, Who are you, uncircumcised culture, that you should defy the armies of the living
02:43:54: God? When the culture spits and hurls insults and threatens us, our response should not be to find the nearest bunker and wait it out.
02:44:06: Our response should be to confront them in the name of the Lord of hosts, to let them know that they have defied the armies of Israel.
02:44:15: Excuse me, the God of the armies of Israel. For what purpose? The passage we just looked at here, it says that all the earth may know that there is a
02:44:24: God in Israel and to declare that the Lord saves not with sword and spear. So I ask you, if you're watching this, who will have the courage of David?
02:44:34: Who will stand firm, knowing that the battle is the Lord's? Who has enough fortitude to tell the culture he will give you into our hand?
02:44:45: So the second story then I want to look at is that of Gideon and Judges 6. This is one of my favorite stories.
02:44:52: Without getting too much into the text, God commanded Gideon to literally tear down his community idols.
02:45:00: These are the same idols that his father built with his own hands. They were his father's idols.
02:45:06: Of course, Gideon was very afraid, but God told him in verse 16, I will be with you.
02:45:13: So Gideon was faithful, and he followed God, and God gave him the courage to obey what he had commanded.
02:45:20: So Gideon pulled down the altar of Baal and cut down the Asherah pole. And what was the result?
02:45:27: The men of the town immediately went looking for him. They found his father and demanded, Bring out your son that he may die, for he has broken down the altar of Baal and cut down the
02:45:37: Asherah beside it. Yet, just as God promised, he protected him.
02:45:43: So here's the point I want us to get here. Abortion is a cultural idol.
02:45:50: And if you have the courage to end it, you will be attempting to tear down that idol. I promise you that you will be hated.
02:45:58: The culture may even want to kill you. But, be faithful to God's commands.
02:46:04: As he said in verse 34, he will clothe you with the spirit of the Lord. This fight will not be easy.
02:46:13: It is hard to be hopeful, but easy to be hopeless. Courage means doing the hard thing, and cowardice means doing the easy thing.
02:46:25: So, now I want to directly address pastors, if you're watching this. And your pastor, my challenge to you, as shepherds of your flocks, and as leaders in your communities, is that this starts with you.
02:46:41: It starts in the pulpit. You are not just the watchdogs of your congregations, but also the watchdogs of your culture, and of your communities.
02:46:52: There's a saying that says, as goes the church, so goes the nation. This could not be a truer statement.
02:46:59: How you lead your churches directly affects the state of your culture. I recently heard
02:47:06: Brother Rusty say something, he actually was here a couple weeks ago teaching, and he said something that I found very profound.
02:47:14: So, admittedly, Rusty, I'm stealing this from you, and I'm going to add to it a little bit, so you can feel free to use the part
02:47:21: I'm adding. But, speaking of MAGA, right, Make America Great Again. He said this, In order for America to become great again, the church has to become good again.
02:47:31: And then I added this, And in order for the church to become good again, pastors have to guide again.
02:47:38: I'm going to repeat this, In order for America to become great again, the church has to become good again.
02:47:47: And in order for the church to become good again, pastors have to guide again. So, I'm going to tread very lightly here with this next point, because I know that this does not apply to every pastor, but I do think that it does apply to a lot of pastors, and if it does,
02:48:06: I implore you to please listen, and to please examine your hearts and motives, and to please repent if necessary.
02:48:15: So, throughout Biblical history, God has notoriously diminished the size of his armies, prior to the time of war, and also preceding great victory.
02:48:26: Doing so makes triumph seem utterly impossible, allowing only him to receive the honor and glory.
02:48:36: So, brothers and sisters, pastors, or anyone else watching this, I truly believe that this is what we are witnessing before our very eyes, currently in our culture, this is what's happening.
02:48:46: And I want to quickly look at another story from the life of Gideon, again, one that I'm sure most of us are familiar with.
02:48:55: So, this is Judges chapter 7, remember we were just in chapter 6, now we're chapter 7, verses 1 through 8.
02:49:01: It says, Then Jeroboam, that is Gideon, and all the people who were with him rose early and encamped beside the spring of Herod.
02:49:09: And the camp of Midian was north of them, by the hill of Moriah, in the valley. The Lord said to Gideon, The people with you are too many for me to give the
02:49:19: Midianites into their hand, lest Israel boast over me, saying, My hand has saved me.
02:49:25: Now therefore proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, Whoever is fearful and trembling, let him return home and hurry away from Mount Gilead.
02:49:35: Then 22 ,000 of the people returned and 10 ,000 remained.
02:49:41: So that's, of 32 ,000 people, 22 ,000 of them left because they were afraid and trembling. Verse 4,
02:49:48: And the Lord said to Gideon, The people are still too many. Take them down to the water, and I will test them for you there.
02:49:55: And any one of whom I say to you, This one shall go with you, shall go with you. And any one of whom
02:50:00: I say to you, This one shall not go with you, shall not go. So he brought the people down to the water.
02:50:05: And the Lord said to Gideon, Everyone who laps the water with his tongue as a dog laps, you shall set by himself.
02:50:13: Likewise, everyone who kneels down to drink, and the number of those who lapped, putting their hands to their mouths, was 300 men.
02:50:23: But all the rest of the people who knelt down to drink water. And the Lord said to Gideon, With the 300 men who lapped,
02:50:29: I will save you and give the Midianites into your hand, and let all the others go, every man to his home.
02:50:36: So the people took provisions in their hands and their trumpets, and he set all the rest of Israel, every man to his tent, but retained the 300 men, and the camp of Midian was below him in the valley.
02:50:50: So, remember we had 32 ,000 down to 10 ,000, now we're down to 300 men, and this is the army that God has shrunk and built for victory.
02:51:01: So this is an amazing story, right? And I think it perfectly illustrates my point. Remember I said earlier, the reason
02:51:08: God does this is so that man can't boast. He says here in the text, Lest Israel boast over me, saying,
02:51:13: My own hand has saved me. So, again, we shrunk it down to 300, and the test that God used,
02:51:22: I think, is one that most Christians probably just overlook, don't understand, haven't spent time examining.
02:51:28: And this is actually really important. So the 9 ,700 soldiers who failed the test failed because they proved themselves not ready for war.
02:51:38: So by kneeling down to drink, they put their faces down to the water, leaving themselves vulnerable and unalert.
02:51:46: But the 300 soldiers who passed the test passed because they proved themselves ready for war. So by cupping the water in their hands, they brought the water up to their mouths so that they could lap it up like a dog.
02:51:57: And in so doing, they left themselves then protected and alert. So I have an honest question
02:52:04: I'm asking here tonight. Are there, at this point, 300 pastors left in our nation fully prepared for war that are alert and guarded and protected?
02:52:16: How many pastors have proven themselves unworthy by kneeling before the inviting cool waters of our current culture, ultimately leaving themselves vulnerable and unprepared for the war at hand?
02:52:30: Make note of mistake. Not only are these pastors making themselves unworthy for war, but also unworthy for victory.
02:52:40: Now, you may be hearing this and you may think I'm crazy. And to be honest, I myself may have felt this same way if I had not just seen with my own eyes the published list of businesses and organizations that received funds through the
02:52:54: Paycheck Protection Program. This money was loaned by the federal government to help fund operational costs during shutdowns due to COVID.
02:53:04: This was money that had to actively be applied for, not just freely given.
02:53:11: If I'm being honest with you tonight, I was completely surprised and appalled by the millions upon millions upon millions of dollars taken by churches.
02:53:22: Even churches I would consider to be solid God -honoring churches. So now the souls of these churches are owned by Uncle Sam and, in my opinion, have proven themselves unprepared for the war at hand.
02:53:37: I in no way consider myself a prophet, but I can see the writing on the wall and I do try to view current events through a biblical lens, taking into consideration
02:53:48: God's modus operandi throughout history. So here's a powerful quote
02:53:54: I'm going to share with you from my good friend Gary DeMar from his book, God and Government. He said this,
02:54:01: The early church was able to grow and have influence because it was decentralized. When the
02:54:07: Christians were persecuted in Jerusalem, they moved on to Judea and Samaria. Even Rome, the center of apostate political power, was populated with Christians.
02:54:16: Spain was next in Paul's missionary plans. The decentralized church was a growing and elusive church.
02:54:22: No political power on earth could curtail its efforts. Christians, because ultimately they serve
02:54:29: God, take their religion with them wherever they go. Families no longer look to the state for care.
02:54:34: Education is seen as a parental responsibility. Statist education is opposed. Alternative educational establishments are constructed.
02:54:43: Care for the needy is seen as a Christian responsibility and not the obligation or right of the state. There was little need for fair business laws because Christian employers treated their employees with dignity as individuals created in the image of God.
02:54:58: These early Christians were persecuted for their individualistic beliefs, but with the
02:55:04: Roman Empire crumbling around them, in time Christians found themselves in positions of power and authority.
02:55:13: Unfortunately, the church has become anything but elusive. In actuality, the church has succumbed to political power by kneeling before it, leaving the bride of Christ vulnerable.
02:55:26: Our culture, much like Rome, is crumbling around us. And I don't know about you, but when it finally does collapse,
02:55:34: I want to be left in a position of power and authority. As pastors, people will be looking to us to lead.
02:55:43: But my question to you, if you're a pastor, will you even still be standing? Our nation's founding fathers, the
02:55:50: Puritans, who escaped tyranny and risked their lives to sail across the ocean to live in freedom, rightly understood this concept.
02:56:00: They were willing to lie face down in the mud so that generations after them could walk across their backs in freedom.
02:56:09: I'm willing to do the same. Are you? I'm willing to fight to get beat up, to get my hands dirty.
02:56:16: Are you? Proverbs 29, 18 says, where there is no prophetic vision, the people cast off restraint, but blessed is he who keeps the law.
02:56:26: This verse has greatly resonated with me over the last several years. Our culture, the people, have cast off restraint because overall, there has been no prophetic vision from our pulpits.
02:56:42: So, pastors, consider this a prophetic vision from me, to please repent of your lack of prophetic vision and to turn from your failure to not only keep but also to love the law of God.
02:56:55: I know it's difficult in our day and age, it's very difficult, but we see here that God has promised to bless you for doing so.
02:57:05: So, my admonition to you is to be bold, just like Pastor Zach was saying, be bold, be courageous, don't buckle under persecution.
02:57:12: And my plea to you is to please repent of any apathy about abortion. Please allow the gospel and God's law to be your standard.
02:57:21: Precious little lives literally depend upon it. My next topic now,
02:57:27: I wanted to address magistrates, politicians, legislators that are watching. So, my admonition to you is much more simple.
02:57:34: You, as lesser magistrates, are accountable to God for how you handle your authority and for how you rule those under your jurisdiction.
02:57:44: Looking quickly at Romans chapter 13, verse 1 states that there is no authority except from God and those that exist have been instituted by God.
02:57:55: So, let me be clear. The authority that you have has been given to you by God.
02:58:02: Then moving down to verse 3, it says, for rulers are not a terror to good conduct but to bad.
02:58:08: So, your duty is to be a terror to bad conduct and not to good conduct.
02:58:14: Then, verse 4, it says, for he is God's servant for your good. You are
02:58:19: God's servant. Literally, the word is you are God's deacon for our good, your citizens.
02:58:26: Then, continuing in verse 4, it says, but if you do wrong, be afraid for he does not bear the sword in vain for he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out
02:58:34: God's wrath on the wrong doer. So, you are responsible to not bear the sword in vain.
02:58:42: The apostle Paul repeats himself again. He says, you are God's deacon. You are his avenger to carry out
02:58:47: God's wrath upon the evil doer. To summarize, the authority that you have is given to you by God and as God's servant, you are therefore to protect the innocent and to seek vengeance on the evil doer and you will be held accountable.
02:59:07: This means that you are to protect the lives of our innocent pre -born neighbors and wield the sword against the hired assassins who intentionally murder them in their mother's wombs.
02:59:19: Unfortunately, the very opposite of this occurs every single day under your watch.
02:59:25: The sword is being wielded in vain against the innocent while the wrong doer is not only going free, but in many cases is even being praised.
02:59:37: So, legislators and lesser magistrates, please hear me on this. 2020 has thus far been one wild and crazy ride for sure and one thing that the
02:59:48: COVID pandemic has shown is that politicians are really good at covering their backsides.
02:59:55: You may be able to temporarily and successfully do so during your elected term, but I can promise you that apart from Christ, you cannot eternally cover your backside.
03:00:06: So, I implore you to do the right and God honoring thing. Politics are nothing more than legislated morality.
03:00:14: So, the question is, whose morality will you legislate? Whose morality will you uphold and protect?
03:00:21: The objective morality of your creator, who has given you the power you hold, is one option.
03:00:27: The other option is the subjective morality of sinful men whose standards ebb and flow like the daily updates of COVID -19.
03:00:38: In closing, I would like to admonish everyone. Remember the passage from Proverbs that I read at the very beginning.
03:00:47: I'll read it again. Proverbs 24, 10 through 12. If you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small.
03:00:54: Rescue those who are being taken away to death. Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter. If you say,
03:01:00: Behold, we did not know this. Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it?
03:01:06: And will he not repay man according to his work? This passage is the driving force behind an abortion now.
03:01:15: It's quite simple. There's nothing tricky nor exegetically difficult to decipher.
03:01:21: The bottom line is this. We are commanded to rescue those who are being taken away to death and to hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
03:01:31: This clearly and directly describes abortion. So pastors, magistrates alike, it is your responsibility to live this out.
03:01:40: To rescue those beautiful children being taken away to death. To hold them back from stumbling to the slaughter.
03:01:46: If you have the opportunity to obey this command and are not doing it, then you are failing in your duties and you are neglecting your
03:01:53: God -given responsibilities. And if you say, we did not know this, you simply are a liar.
03:02:00: And if you're hearing this, you now know and are without excuse. Verse 12 says, does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it?
03:02:10: And will he not repay man according to his work? Again, you will be held accountable whether in this life or the next.
03:02:19: So who here will be this generation's David? Who will be this generation's Gideon? God does not bless cowardice but does reward courage.
03:02:29: And I can promise you this, if you lead, they will follow. If you are willing to put to death cowardice and courageously stand firm and embed yourselves upon God's righteous and just principles, we will support you.
03:02:44: And we have a growing grassroots army standing behind us waiting for their marching orders. So what do you say?
03:02:51: Who is with me? Isaiah 41 10 and I'm going to close. It says, fear not for I am with you.
03:02:59: Be not dismayed for I am your God. I will strengthen you. I will help you. I will uphold you with my righteous hand.
03:03:06: Let's pray. I'm off the property.
03:03:15: Move. Move where? Off the property. I'm not going to play games with you.
03:03:21: That's public. No, it's not.
03:03:30: I'm going to tell you one time. Move off the property or you're going to jail.
03:03:35: I have the paperwork. I'm going to give you one more chance and then you're going to handcuff. Are you moving or not? Yes or no?
03:03:42: I'm not on the property. Alright, come here. Come here. Turn around. I wouldn't resist.
03:03:48: That's a good lawsuit there, Steve. Get my keys. Hey, easy on the cuffs.
03:03:56: You mind your business. Get my keys out of my pocket. Get my keys out of my pocket.
03:04:02: Ow! I haven't even searched him yet.
03:04:09: Ow! Criminal trespassing. My hands are going numb, dude.
03:04:16: Alright. Please just take off. Take off.
03:04:22: This place is wicked, man. Do you know the Lord, sir?
03:04:29: You're arresting a Christian. You're arresting a Christian right now. Well, my name's
03:04:34: John Barrows. I don't know, you know, how many of you know me or anything.
03:04:41: There's a lot of people I haven't ever met here before. There's some here that have been down to the clinic with me and that serve down there in Orlando.
03:04:51: I've been going to the Orlando Women's Center for 16 years.
03:04:57: I've been there full time for the last... I'll be starting my 10th year in a couple of weeks.
03:05:07: I used to be there the first few years. It wasn't popular to do this. You weren't going to rooms filled up with people like you 16 years ago and people wanting to get out and do this type of ministry.
03:05:22: So I was alone most of the time the first three years. I thank
03:05:28: God for that. I want to encourage you guys that if you get days where you feel like you're the only one there, and you probably are going to be the only one there, don't yell, where's the church?
03:05:42: Enjoy that time because he's there with you in a special way. It might not seem like it, but he really truly is.
03:05:49: I learned more about Jesus and about God in those three years than I could have ever possibly do in anything else and in any other way.
03:05:59: He will bless you in the most possible. Of course we want help and of course we want people there.
03:06:06: I want people to be supporting you and helping you wherever you are, but don't shy away from those days.
03:06:12: They really are good days and can be some of the best days of ministry ever really.
03:06:19: In fact honestly at our clinic especially in the afternoon or a lot of people can come early in the morning and then they have to go about their business of the day.
03:06:33: I like it when there's just a couple of us there because people are much more open to coming and speaking to you than if all of us were there.
03:06:46: But if there's just a couple of us there they'll come and talk to you. I have a little tiny wall pony wall that separates the property there and my goal every morning is
03:06:57: I ask the Lord to fill somebody sitting on that wall next to me being able to speak to them and that's the goal there.
03:07:11: But I forgot where I was. I gotta tell you I had a stroke in April and so I might zip in and out here in a few places and I'll forget where I was but just bear with me.
03:07:27: The only thing I can do as far as this goes, you all are ministering in completely different places.
03:07:34: Completely different situations. Completely different everything. So all
03:07:39: I can speak to in all honesty is where I minister at. And if you can pull something out of that that can help you
03:07:50: I'd be very happy. But I also know, you know, I've been to the one in Bristol where Amanda's been and I've served there.
03:08:01: That's a difficult place. I've been to Phoenix and been to some of that nonsense.
03:08:08: I've tromped through cactuses outside of Phoenix with Raleigh Haggard and John Speed trying to talk to people at one there.
03:08:19: So I understand that everybody has a different thing but there's basic things
03:08:24: I think that we all have to do. So I'm just going to run down what it's like at our clinic and what we do at that time.
03:08:35: It usually opens at 9 o 'clock every morning. I try to be there between 7 .30 and 8 o 'clock.
03:08:40: Because for one reason is, and I think probably all of you that do this ministry can probably attest to this, that a lot of people come early.
03:08:48: And they come early a lot of the time because they don't want to do it. And they think if they can hurry up and get it done they'll be done.
03:08:59: And if you can talk to them you know, it's gold. It's solid gold. So many of them choose life actually.
03:09:09: I have a wonderful place where I send them to. It's called
03:09:15: Choices Pregnancy Center. It's a ladies doctor's office with a real lady doctor there.
03:09:21: We have real lady RNs. They're all all the ones there are godly women.
03:09:28: I watch on Facebook people upset with the pregnancy centers that they're sending people to and I can certainly
03:09:35: I would hate to have to deal with that. But the way I know that ours is good is because so many of the volunteers from the ones
03:09:42: I send them to come and help me on the sidewalk. So I know exactly what they're saying. I know exactly what they're doing.
03:09:48: I know their exact view of it all. So again, I'm probably blessed more than people in that area.
03:09:55: But I have a wonderful place to get people started at.
03:10:03: They get a free ultrasound, of course, and then they get a free financial help.
03:10:10: State of Florida, they get them on Medicaid if they're if they need that. They do it all immediately right there.
03:10:17: And then of course they get them start on physical help as well.
03:10:24: The biggest thing that helps with mine is that my pastors at my church will back up every single thing
03:10:31: I tell a lady. If I tell a lady I'll pay three months of her back rent or you know all the things that it could be.
03:10:42: They will back me 100%. Whatever I say. Usually the people that say that they're in all this dire need really are.
03:10:52: I mean it's very rare that we even really have to help anybody but they've blown this so much up into their minds that they think we at least have that covered.
03:11:03: We try to have absolutely everything covered. Our church actually has a fund for people in our church to help pay to adopt babies actually.
03:11:17: I mean our church has actual prayer groups for to fight abortion.
03:11:25: They oh thank God. There is a God. I've been dying.
03:11:34: Thank you. See Don was supposed to do this but that's
03:11:40: Don you know. See you shouldn't have prayed for me to feel better.
03:11:48: Now you're going to pay. Oh okay. I didn't realize that. But so anyway the church is absolutely valuable and I know a lot of people always say they say how do
03:12:00: I get my church won't do anything my church won't this my church won't. I always say please the thing that changed ours the one that changed that changes a church is when you bring a girl that has chosen life that really does need help and you bring her into the church and you disciple her and as she's going through her pregnancies she's getting bigger and bigger and the ladies in the church just start mothering on her you know what
03:12:34: I mean and then and then when that baby's born you make sure every single person in that church holds that baby and smells there's no smell like that in the world right and and it changes people and when they see somebody come to Christ and they see this baby growing and they see this baby now growing up in the church and going through the nursery and going through all that stuff it becomes as normal as anything else in your church it really does so I always just say you know bring them your fruit now maybe you're in one that's really bad
03:13:13: I don't know but I don't have an answer for anything other than that I really I really don't but then throughout the day at the church the way it works is we have a brochure the living waters in the womb tract that's the one
03:13:33: I use I only use that and we've had so many girls that take those and go in I mean it's not like every week or anything but over the years there's been many that have gone in there and on the back they have that little square thing where you can do your phone
03:13:54: I mean you young people know how to do that but anyway it pops up the 180 video and they're sitting in there they all have their headphones on and nobody knows what they're doing and they'll actually watch that video sitting in the lobby of the abortion clinic and many have come out and chosen live watching that video so it shows a little bit of development about the baby and all that in the brochure itself plus it has a little short gospel message in it as well and then
03:14:26: I give them our place makes these cards about that big the pregnancy center says what they can do for them on it and has a map on the back and directions and then
03:14:38: I give them my card and over there if they if a lady shows up with my card they know that they met me and they'll then put them to the front of the list of everything that's going on there at choices and then they'll be seen there immediately so no appointment necessary no anything so we try to cover all that and then around about 10 o 'clock depending on what it is after they're all in there
03:15:12: I'm fortunate enough to be close enough to the building about 25 feet from the front door and I preach a sermon there every day and it lasts about 45 minutes and it covers pretty much everything you can imagine and that is when 90 some percent of the people that have chosen life when they choose life it's when either that or right afterwards they get very convicted
03:15:49: God God convicts people people harden their hearts even the ones that go through with it they're convicted
03:15:55: I mean heavily but they but the thing I learned was there's no you know you can show up with all the little cool little sayings like I don't know that people will come and yell at these people and they'll say abortion one wounded one dead or something
03:16:17: I've never seen any of that stuff turn anybody's heart but I see God's word turn their heart and I always try to get people
03:16:24: I get people like street preachers will call me or text me and they'll say hey I'm coming down to serve with you on Thursday I say why well because I want to I say we don't need you you know because we don't want people down there that are arrogant number one
03:16:44: I'm not saying all street preachers are but I always tell people you know you're welcome if if you can show up here and you can and you're prepared to preach a site specific message like what it has to do with what's going on here you know not everywhere else you know the fire coming down from the mountains and all this kind of stuff and but a site specific message as to what abortion is what
03:17:12: God thinks of it why you need to repent and turn from this and the care that he will give you if you trust him how he's never let one girl down in all the years
03:17:22: I've ever been there not one that has put their trust in him if you're not willing to preach that kind of sermon please don't come because you'll just be a hindrance actually more than anything and so that's what we try to do but usually that's when the people choose life but the other advantage that we have there than a lot of places like you probably go to is ours lasts all day long they get them in there at nine o 'clock they give them nine o 'clock appointments they all have the same appointment time so you get twenty five thirty people showing up at nine o 'clock and then they sit in there sometimes till six o 'clock at night before the abortionist even gets there so you've got all that time you know to share the word with and they come out they need cigarettes have saved more babies than anything on earth in our clinic
03:18:22: I'm sorry that's the truth they come out and you get a chance to talk to them and as the day wears on God's word is like banging around in their head in their heart and they and they they'll come out with questions and they'll come out and talk and fights will erupt between the guy and the girl and the you know you'll have all this kind of stuff going it's very tiring doing this because it is it's you know
03:18:53: I'm there from seven thirty or eight in the morning till four thirty in the afternoon everyday and it's like it's just never ending it's just everyday you go back to the same people just different faces same excuses same craziness the same all of it but but that time is an advantage that time that's why we don't get all excited like when they come we're not you gotta you know you don't have that tension of like oh that baby's gonna be dead in twenty minutes or something we try to talk to them like we would talk to our next door neighbor or something like not being all hyped up not being all pumped up because we know we have time and we know that God's word is gonna work and I'll tell you over the years
03:19:40: I've been there I'm gonna tell you this with with I can't stress enough
03:19:49: I tell people people think I'm something I am absolutely nothing
03:19:55: I am absolutely when I tell you this I mean it from it's not a false humility it's anything
03:20:02: I know who I am I know what I am I'm actually the most obnoxious stinking guy you've probably ever met but but I have been able to see the
03:20:14: Lord in this time in this nine years I've been able to see him turn the hearts of over 2 ,500 girls that have chosen life and that's not counting the turnaways that you don't know about until you know they just leave and you wonder if they just vanish out into thin air somewhere and you don't know but I could never take credit for one of those
03:20:39: I don't have that kind of power to turn a heart, do any of you? can you take that black heart of some of those people going in there?
03:20:46: I see God do it like that in an instant of time the most hateful, angry mid -sentence cussing you out just BAM!
03:20:57: and it's like wow I don't have that power it does not belong to me
03:21:03: I don't and neither do you but his word, he promises in Romans 1 16 he says that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation and it, why would we want to use anything but his power?
03:21:18: right? I mean why what can we possibly manufacture that's more powerful than that?
03:21:23: now when I say the gospel I don't mean that just a gospel presentation like like you would typically say but you weave it, you weave the gospel through what's happening there in front of you and each individual person, you can learn a lot about people by reading the stickers on the back of their cars by what they're wearing and all these things, you try to use it to number one, get to know them and then to enter into them you know, enter into their life somehow and you try to weave that gospel through all of that and it's not easy,
03:22:03: I mean it's and you're not always gonna be right, I mean when you people can fool you,
03:22:11: I mean you're not gonna but I've seen God do the most absolutely amazing things what?
03:22:24: okay you didn't know this was being directed this is a
03:22:29: Don Martin production but I will tell you a story
03:22:36: I told it already earlier today to these guys, I told them one from a month ago and this will show you how much power
03:22:43: I've got, right, to turn a heart, I even told Knucklehead over there yesterday Michael but I told you
03:22:52: I was obnoxious but I one day I was out there preaching and I had
03:22:59: Joe and Yoli from my church were there and I was I was just preaching,
03:23:06: I was on the sidewalk preaching, I hear a car pull up behind me on the street and I hear some guys start screaming and hollering in Spanish and I don't pay attention
03:23:16: I don't stop, I don't quit, I don't do anything, I just stay focused and and so Yoli says
03:23:25: John, I think you need to come and talk to this one and I said okay so I stopped preaching and I went out in the street there's this guy with tears pouring down his face, he's on his phone and he was a transportation driver for a medical medical transportation taking some patient to a doctor and he's crying and the guy's sitting in the back seat and he's trying to figure out why is someone preaching out here, why is this guy crying, you know, what's all going on and then he starts telling
03:23:59: Yoli the story and the passenger finally realized hey this is going to be a while, he got out and walked the rest of the way to his thing, but he was happy you know, for this guy but he gets his wife on FaceTime and then he's showing me and he's just rambling in Spanish, fast
03:24:16: Spanish I mean there's no way I could ever and here's his wife and she's crying and here's this little baby she's holding about this big, and then it turns out they were a turn away about 14 months earlier and we didn't know,
03:24:36: I mean I had no idea you know, about this because when they just vanish like that you don't ever know, and a lot of you guys if you're in a place where you're far away from them and you don't able to really one on one with people, just know that people are leaving, that you will never even know
03:24:57: Joe's life, I guarantee you but so they're talking and he's all thankful, he gets out of his car and he hugs me and all this stuff and then
03:25:10: I thought, I gotta go back to preach so he gets back in his car and I'm walking back to preach and something hit me and I said, wait a minute
03:25:21: I said, Yoli, she said what I said stop that guy and so she hollered and he stopped and she goes, why
03:25:31: I said, Yoli he speaks Spanish and she said
03:25:38: I said, ask him how in the heck he knew what I was preaching and he heard it in his own language, him and his wife now
03:25:48: I mean, how is that, do I have that power? I don't have that power man, I don't have any power
03:25:54: I'm the most broken guy you would ever imagine, I liken myself to the guy in Mark chapter 5 when
03:26:03: Jesus went to look for an evangelist to the Gentiles it says he had to go across the lake so he goes across the lake and he goes to find his first evangelist to the
03:26:16: Gentiles he goes to a cemetery and he finds a guy with a thousand demons in him, right and so he cleans that guy up and then that guy, as you can imagine
03:26:29: I'll shorten the story up a lot but as you can imagine, that guy is now clean, he's healed
03:26:36: Jesus they want him to leave because all the pigs got killed and so he he's getting in the boat to leave and that guy wants to get in the boat and Jesus says you, no, you stay here, you tell the people the wonderful things that God has done and and then the next time
03:26:58: Jesus comes to that area it's called the Decapolis, you guys can look all this up, the Decapolis was an area where there were ten city states and all the ruling empires had their own cities there in this area and part of dealing with Rome and Israel and all that and when
03:27:18: Jesus came back there the next time, all the people came out to him and the first thing
03:27:24: Jesus did there then was heal a deaf guy, remember to signifying that he's bringing the gospel now to the
03:27:32: Gentiles and to the masses anyway, that's what I look at myself I'm just a broken guy sinner beyond belief um you know,
03:27:43: I'm still you really wouldn't like me if you knew me but I'm just a regular guy
03:27:50: I don't have any of that power, I haven't been to seminary, I haven't done any of that stuff but God called me there and he will equip whoever he calls and when you go he's going to equip you, he's going to give you everything you need and he's going to do things that you will never ever in a million years believe but that's one example um there's thousands of them but um the whole point is that I don't know how
03:28:25: I got off on this I was trying to go in order of how to do this kind of ministry but um again,
03:28:35: I don't know, I don't understand like uh the area where you're at, I know some things that you don't want to have, you don't want to have people that are fighting you on the sidewalk
03:28:46: I mean that is the biggest no -no ever you don't want to waste your time with them at all um you just carry on do what you're going to do and God's going to he'll sort it all out because you know
03:29:00: I've been through all that as well but it's honestly, you know I tell people that um
03:29:10: I show up and watch him show off because I can't do any of this I'm not saying it's easy, it's kind of miserable really,
03:29:18: I mean it's you're out there in Florida, I don't know what it's like where you live but you know, summer over there it's 9 o 'clock in the morning, it can be 95 with 95 % humidity and you get out of your car and it's dripping off your elbows already but it's you know, but the joy when you get to see him move, there's nothing worth you know, there's nothing there's nothing like that boy, he protects you in a special way he does everything he really truly becomes your all in all when you're put yourself in that position and there's nothing on earth worth that I mean nothing is comes even close to that I kind of got to regroup here and figure out where I'm going but how much time do
03:30:10: I have anybody know? no so I have 10 more minutes how about if I do this then yeah, why don't
03:30:23: I see if any of you guys and maybe we could all, maybe one of you have an answer to somebody else's question about where you guys are serving at anybody have a question?
03:30:37: yes sir I just had a question about if something that I think all of us have seen is maybe some legal problems with basically if you had any trouble with that I have to tell you, at the beginning yeah, but here's the thing, if you can possibly do it, get somebody in your church, don't you have an old cripple guy in your church or something that can adopt, that's on disability or retired, that can adopt that abortion clinic and that he can be there every minute they're open he's getting paid anyway or he's on retirement he can do it, what else is he going to do watch
03:31:20: Andy Griffith all day long but get him to go down there, once you own that place, things happen
03:31:28: I have the police I couldn't believe it either, but last week I'm out there preaching and I hear this
03:31:37: I didn't hear it actually because I get in this like zone and I have to have people watch so that nobody comes and attacks me, they'll run up and I'll know that somebody's coming because I get in this weird place when
03:31:51: I'm preaching and I I didn't hear the car pull up I didn't even hear the people yelling and then all of a sudden
03:32:00: I hear, John! and I turn around and it's the police and I turn around and I look at him and I go, what's up what did
03:32:10: I do, and he goes no, no, no, you don't get it John, preach louder John, preach longer so I don't have those problems, but I really believe it's because I own the place you know what
03:32:24: I mean, it's because they're not coming out there, in fact when somebody calls the police on me, which is every day, there, because they don't they don't think
03:32:32: I have a right to be there they don't, you know, all this stuff, the police just tell them, he has every right to be there, it's just John, if you don't want to hear him go sit inside or go sit in your car but every once in a while they'll make a claim and they'll come out and then they basically end up giving them a civics lesson but the thing is own the place own it, that's not the devil's land it's really not he doesn't belong there they don't belong in that place that's
03:33:08: God's and you gotta look at it that way that's your place, those people are yes sir what do you think about bringing your kids there, you have a 4 year old and a 3 year old well it's winter in Alaska right now so they're in the car usually winter in Alaska what winter in Alaska do they have a
03:33:28: DCF up there department of children and families winter in Alaska sitting in the car no
03:33:38: I don't like kids where I'm at it's not because of what the exposure and all that but ours is such a weird thing we have these two driveways and then the clinics right here and people hit that driveway at 40 miles an hour coming in there and boom, and if there's a kid when they're coming around, there's a kid standing there adult to anybody they're gonna be dead but if you can get them in a safe place and all that, yeah
03:34:08: I know many families in Florida where I live that have done that is it safe yeah people coming in, moms coming in seeing babies yeah
03:34:23: I don't know if that works but it's not safe don't plan on being safe no it's not safe yes so if we do have all the opposition out there cause ours we do, there's volunteers
03:34:41: I'm pretty sure they're paid there's probably 5 or 6 to 9 at any given time and as soon as we get there they call them do you recommend just not engaging them at all what
03:34:54: I always try to do when they've done that at ours they don't last long cause number 1 they're not gonna get paid by them and number 2 they're not there the same reason we are they're not looking at this as a spiritual thing between us and God the battle that's before us but I've had them there they've turned on the sprinklers they've done all that but I always try the workers when they'll go get the girls heads and put their heads over their ears and all and walk them up the driveway usually what
03:35:29: I always say is young lady come and talk to me about what they don't want you to hear and it really gets people inquisitive and usually it ended up working against them you gotta try and use them as your thing
03:35:48: I know one thing, one big deal I'm sure somebody would ask what do you do when someone says you're judging us?
03:35:56: do you ever hear that? here's what
03:36:02: I tell them I say I'm not judging you my judgment wouldn't mean anything even if I did
03:36:08: I'm here to warn you about his judgment and try to protect you from it but you in fact are the actual judge and you have just condemned your baby to death you've just judged your baby not worthy of life and nobody has a comeback for that, none of them
03:36:28: I think we're yes ma 'am my name is Tina Brown and I've been in Oklahoma City you're my hero
03:36:39: I follow you and I would like to ask you since I have to be there
03:36:45: I will be there tomorrow and I'll speak briefly at the Capitol Tuesday and then
03:36:52: I'll be back there Wednesday could you please come to my gate sir? when is this, tomorrow?
03:36:59: well let me check with the schedule and see what they want me to do but yeah, sure
03:37:04: I'm gonna call him and I'm gonna talk to him or I'm gonna come to Florida come on down to learn more, you know she just came down, she just moved down next to you from Austin, she's down there now at our clinic
03:37:18: I think that's it for time right guys, is that it? yeah
03:37:25: I think we're done but if there's any other questions I don't want you to miss any other classes but if you want to come back in with more questions come back in gotta give you a way to escape thank you guys
03:38:07: I'm Ken Cheeseman Austin, Raleigh, North Carolina you know, we wanted to do some evangelism but then we started seeing you know, this could be abortion ministry could be effective for evangelism
03:38:22: YouTube just started watching found Durbin confronting people and then, yeah,
03:38:31: YouTube basically well,
03:38:38: I mean at the place that we're at now we have our pro -life I don't know, pregnancy center type place that's completely hostile and hates what we do they're trying to do what we do and they really just hate the gospel
03:38:54: I think they don't give them the gospel they're out there and they say we're not with them yeah, we're not with them no and they have gift bags, there's food in the bag, there's information about getting the ultrasound but we asked them to look in the bag and there's not even a gospel track,
03:39:20: I really do think they're ashamed of the gospel, it's about handing out these bags and getting people to have the ultrasound, so they can check the box, so they can extort money from churches that are afraid to share the gospel people should support end abortion now, because they're not ashamed of the gospel and they're proclaiming the law of God which, that's what's going to work on the heart to bring people to the knowledge of Jesus Christ I mean, it is the gospel we can't be ashamed of the full counsel of God if we don't proclaim it if the church doesn't proclaim it there's no organization on earth that will and then you have these pseudo
03:40:10: Christian organizations, again extorting and taking money from Christians in the name of Christ that will not speak the true message of Jesus Christ Hi, I'm Jeff Durbin, pastor of Apologia Church and the head of endabortionnow .com
03:40:34: I am so excited to present to you what God has done over the last year through your prayers and your support all that you've done to partner with us as a
03:40:43: Christian church, trying to equip other Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children years ago when we started this ministry we told you that we were a
03:40:56: Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel we did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion, we wanted to establish justice to abolish this, to criminalize it and to end it once and for all when we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free, we wanted to educate them, we wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
03:41:19: As of today over 615 local churches have signed up they have been equipped, they have been trained, they've gotten free resources, we haven't taken anything from these churches, we've wanted only to give to them and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free over 615 churches countless lives have been saved at this point, thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us, you gave to this church to equip these churches and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
03:41:57: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
03:42:05: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
03:42:13: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel, demanding immediate justice to our legislators, we started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice, that all has happened and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion right now in the state of Arizona we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize not regulate to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona Roe v.
03:42:43: Wade is a court opinion it does not have the force of law it is not a law and that is admitted now number one, we don't know exactly what she will do, her expectation is that she may very well move to overview over rule
03:42:59: Roe the only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
03:43:05: Roe the law of the land that's what I would do we needed to educate believers that Roe v.
03:43:11: Wade is a court opinion and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970's we knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has, where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion they call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves you'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that world view the pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what
03:43:41: Christians would call it, we've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality but with the gospel demanding immediate justice, we've been able to do that through your support, over 615 local churches now out saving thousands of lives, we have now established other media ministries, we through your support have actually given numerous churches their own media kit, where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios, we've given them high end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
03:44:22: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion we've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland and the
03:44:33: Republic of Ireland and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia in New Zealand, in Canada God has made this movement global and it's happened because of your support with us,
03:44:47: I want to speak to you from the heart here, we are not trying to create an industry I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue we are working as a
03:45:01: Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives you've helped us to do that and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches we've just helped them, equipped them you did that, you supported us you prayed and right now we have legislators in Indiana South Carolina, Texas Oklahoma and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
03:45:29: Roe vs Wade and to criminalize abortion at the state level, it's going to be happening here in Arizona, it's already being submitted and all that's happening because of the work of endabortionnow .com
03:45:42: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice true justice for these pre -born children, will you join us again in 2021 of course pray for us of course please sign up at endabortionnow .com
03:45:56: with your church, save some lives with us, there's Christians all over the country that need you to join us we need your help to save lives but also partner with us so we can equip more churches develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation help us to meet our matching donation for 2020 help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb when you give to endabortionnow .com
03:46:30: you're giving to equip local churches to save lives that's all there is to it, lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave you are helping to raise churches up you are saving lives you're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end to criminalize the issue of abortion you're helping us to actually train and equip
03:47:02: Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice just think about this 10 years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying end it it's over, we're criminalizing this we're abolishing it now we're here,
03:47:25: Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through End Abortion Now to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one, it's happening in Arizona right now we have people all over the country now who are in this, this is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line and I just want to reiterate again,
03:47:59: I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
03:48:05: God has done we never ask for another penny the pro -life industry is an industry it's a business when you give this to the church the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny brothers and sisters, will you give?
03:48:22: help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021 will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
03:48:33: Christian church help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now, that's what's happening so many churches so many lives saved now, more media ministries than ours, able to speak to this with good quality content, with a consistent message, and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country will you partner with a
03:48:59: Christian church that makes this about the gospel that makes this about ending abortion once and for all we can celebrate together when we never ask for another penny from a
03:49:12: Christian to end this issue because it's ended go to endabortionnow .com
03:49:19: sign up with your church to join us in saving lives go to endabortionnow .com
03:49:25: to give towards the work of 2021, all of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives, creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature join us for 2021 brothers and sisters,
03:49:44: I'd be so grateful if you did feels good to be out of that heat doesn't it?
03:49:57: summertime is officially here hey guys, here at Planned Parenthood in Nashville, it's hard it's been a real tough day here one, it's hot, but man there's been 30 cars roll through here and most of them abortions, so Wednesday now in Nashville has become a huge kill day so they're killing babies 5 days a week
03:50:24: I go 2 or 3 days a week and struggle with the fact that, you know I'll be here tomorrow, but I won't be here on Monday and babies will die on Monday and it's, you know, if you really believe and know that's what's happening how can you not do something don't go in, let's go to the
03:50:46: Hope Clinic can we guide you to the Hope Clinic please? can we guide you to the
03:50:53: Hope Clinic? she's going in and so part of me going out there is it also gives me an excuse to engage everybody on the street and that's why
03:51:07: I talk to everybody on the street I wave at everybody, I'm looking for opportunities to not just save a baby and rescue a life there but to bring life to somebody that doesn't understand the kingdom, the good news of the kingdom the sad thing is
03:51:23: I'm standing here on the chair just on the other side of the fence, there's a car on the other side and I came in on the conversation and it turns out, man he's listening and responsive but it's too late his child's already dead because I've had,
03:51:38: I mean, through four years of conversations I've had some really good ones where I've been successful and then there's times where I've just bombed and it doesn't keep me from coming back, you learn let's go get a free ultrasound, free pregnancy test she's going to let her baby live?
03:51:53: yes! let's say a year from now abortion is over everywhere in the country what did it take from now until one year for that to happen?
03:52:08: for the church to unite, not only when I say the church
03:52:14: I think the African American community within the church has to rise up I'm against racism call me man, call me hey
03:52:24: Tony, ask this discord about Margaret Sanger ask her who Margaret Sanger is who looked at black people as animals you know,
03:52:32: I test this every day I ask the question of Margaret Sanger today, I did it multiple times but very few people in the
03:52:39: African American community have ever heard that name they just don't know they don't have the knowledge of who she is and how this whole concept is based upon racism ask the
03:52:51: Lord, really every day is this what you want me to do and so he's burned it into my heart to do it
03:53:01: I think until it's done for these pre -born children years ago when we started this ministry we told you that we were a
03:53:33: Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel we did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion we wanted to establish justice to abolish this, to criminalize it and to end it once and for all when we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free, we wanted to educate them we wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill as of today, over 615 local churches have signed up, they have been equipped they have been trained, they have gotten free resources we haven't taken anything from these churches we've wanted only to give to them and for your support we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free over 615 churches countless lives have been saved at this point thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us, you gave to this church to equip these churches and now thousands of children are alive because of that we knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
03:54:43: Christian perspective that worked towards the end the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation we knew that we needed to speak with the gospel demanding immediate justice to our legislators we started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice that all has happened and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion right now in the state of Arizona we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona Roe v.
03:55:21: Wade is a court opinion it does not have the force of law it is not a law and that is admitted now number one, we don't know exactly what she would do the expectation is that she may very well move to overview over rule
03:55:37: Roe, the only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
03:55:43: Roe the law of the land, that's what I would do we needed to educate believers that Roe v.
03:55:49: Wade is a court opinion and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970's we knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has, where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion they call mothers and fathers who have abortions, victims themselves you'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that world view the pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder what
03:56:19: Christians would call it we've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians, not with neutrality but with the gospel demanding immediate justice, we've been able to do that through your support, over 615 local churches now out -saving thousands of lives, we have now established other media ministries we, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit, where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content just like Apologia Studios we've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
03:57:00: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion, we've been able to raise up churches in Ireland Northern Ireland, the
03:57:11: Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia in New Zealand, in Canada God has made this movement global and it's happened because of your support with us,
03:57:25: I want to speak to you from the heart here we are not trying to create an industry I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue we are working as a
03:57:39: Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives you've helped us to do that and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches we've just helped them, equipped them, you did that, you supported us, you prayed, and right now we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion to resist
03:58:07: Roe vs. Wade and to criminalize abortion at the state level, it's going to be happening here in Arizona it's already being submitted and all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
03:58:20: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice true justice for these pre -born children will you join us again in 2021?
03:58:30: of course pray for us, of course please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com with your church, save some lives with us, there's
03:58:38: Christians all over the country that need you to join us we need your help to save lives but also partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation help us to meet our matching donation for 2020 help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb when you give to EndAbortionNow .com
03:59:08: you're giving to equip local churches to save lives that's all there is to it lives are being saved every single day, across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave you are helping to raise churches up you are saving lives you're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians that are helping to actually end to criminalize the issue of abortion you're helping us to actually train and equip
03:59:40: Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice just think about this 10 years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now where we have legislators who are actually saying, end it it's over, we're criminalizing this we're abolishing it now we're here,
04:00:03: Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one, it's happening in Arizona right now we have people all over the country now who are in this, this is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line and I just want to reiterate again
04:00:36: I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
04:00:43: God has done we never ask for another penny the pro -life industry is an industry it's a business when you give this to the church the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny brothers and sisters will you give, help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021 will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
04:01:11: Christian church help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now that's what's happening so many churches so many lives saved now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country will you partner with a
04:01:37: Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all we can celebrate together when we never ask for another penny from a
04:01:50: Christian to end this issue because it's ended go to endabortionnow .com
04:01:57: sign up with your church to join us in saving lives go to endabortionnow .com to give towards the work of 2021 all of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature join us for 2021 brothers and sisters
04:02:22: I'd be so grateful if you did my name's
04:02:28: Christina we are in Raleigh, North Carolina so a year a year this past October we've been going out every
04:02:38: Monday is our day well initially my husband so we came across some videos abortion now videos on YouTube and actually it was the desire to go to the city council meetings at first is what really was kind of like our thought process and then
04:03:03: God did a miraculous thing one weekend and we watched babies are murdered here and then we
04:03:10: Patti Smith somehow visited our church that same weekend and so we got to meet
04:03:17: Patti and Scott Smith and we did some street preaching with them like that day and then we trained with them for like six weeks on how they do abortion meal ministry and then we've just been doing it faithfully ever since it's truly gospel centered they are not ashamed of the gospel they're calling people to repentance they're pointing out that this is murder that this is sin we now have a actual resource center from Raleigh that is trying to do sidewalk ministry next to us it's kind of sad it's sad to see their focus is on just sharing snacks and smiling and waving and their message is one of we know you have a hard decision to make and we just want to give you other options as if abortion is still an option when it should not be an option at all because it's murder so murder should never be an option so the pro -life message is weak it's a weak message and it's not
04:04:26: Christ centered and it's not biblical if you're giving to a resource center
04:04:31: I would say stop that and give to end abortion now because they are legit they are
04:04:39: Christ centered standing on the word of God and not ashamed of Jesus we actually found out that she had cystic fibrosis about a week after she was born
04:05:30: Adrienne knew that something wasn't right just by how she was eating and some different things like that so what
04:05:38: I remember was Adrienne went to her first appointment with Jade and when she came home she was in tears just crying and she couldn't even really talk so Cheryl was with us which is our pastor's wife and she told me she said
04:05:54: Jade has cystic fibrosis and I didn't know at the time what that meant exactly I didn't know what that meant for Jade I just knew it was bad
04:06:03: I knew it had something to do with her lungs so from there on we just started planning on how to raise a child with cystic fibrosis it used to be a death sentence for kids now
04:06:17: I mean thank the Lord we live in a time where the medical technology has come so far medication has come so far if any baby they need to eat a lot and with her you can't just feed her she needs medication with every time she eats anything so that can get time consuming and stressful but she's very happy she's very playful and she's been healthy lately and it's just really rewarding to see how far she's come what a joy she brings to our family regardless of what we have to do to keep her healthy abortion wasn't even a thing that ever crossed our mind
04:07:23: I think that a lot of people look at Jade's condition and they think oh she has something that's going to make her life difficult and hard and it's going to make your guys' life difficult and hard the narrative we're sold is the best thing to do is just kill her for us that never crossed our mind because life is hard in general it's hard for all of us it's hard for children it's hard for adults parents, husbands, wives life is difficult and there are many obstacles that we go through so abortion never crossed our mind and we're continuing to have children knowing that our future children could also have cystic fibrosis every child we have there's a 25 % chance and we're not deterred from having children children are a blessing and God made her just the way she was not only did you save one generation oh thank you not only did you save my first granddaughter because that she lived
04:08:34: I am a great grandmother and my mother is a great great grandmother praise the lord and they all are doing well and I just thank you for your ministry because my mother had me to commit abortion when
04:08:49: I was 16 and I did not want to have it but my mother made me have it and because of that I am so desperately thankful that my daughter did not commit an abortion here and she had my granddaughter her name is
04:09:09: Jocelyn and Jocelyn is on her second baby I want to tell you that so your endeavors is not unheard and all the people who say the mean things
04:09:25: I am pro -life even though my mother had me to have an abortion but at that time back in the day they didn't want the girls to get pregnant and my mother was fearful and praise god he's forgiving because we've all done things that we need to be forgiving
04:09:42: I'm on my way to prayer right now we knew of a woman that had needed some help and we had chosen to help her with her pregnancy and she birthed a little girl and we continued to help her for years for a couple years and she ended up pregnant, an unwanted pregnancy and she wanted to get an abortion and I just I couldn't fathom that and I talked to her about it being murder and that it's just you can't do that, she couldn't do it,
04:10:28: I just wasn't going to let her do it and I said we'll talk tomorrow, next day came, she was living at her home by the way next day came and she still wanted to and I said you couldn't and I told her she couldn't and four days went by and on the fourth day she said that she had already ruined him that she had already she had already ruined him that she had already been doing things that she shouldn't have been doing while she was pregnant and she said that nobody would want him and I said that I would
04:10:59: I said that she couldn't get an abortion and that I wanted him and then
04:11:05: I called my husband and I told him what I said and he was like okay, we're going to have another baby and he was born two months early and his name is
04:11:16: Jaris and we are so blessed by him and I'm so blessed that that mom chose life
04:11:24: I'm so blessed that she trusted me that she trusted me to help her through her pregnancy and to care for him and he's one he's one well he's number ten and he is full of energy and we hadn't had a boy for a while so it's just he's a bundle of joy he is more than what
04:11:59: I expected he's right on track with kids his age he's not been affected by anything that she was doing and he's perfect so this is actually to my mind a historic site it's one it's a place where one of the giants of the faith of our generation has stood and ministered for sixteen years it's a really incredible spot this is the
04:12:44: Orlando Women's Center I've only been here for a little bit as we're getting everything set up to do this for you so you can see this place and just in being here for a short time
04:12:55: I've already seen several mothers and fathers going in and out I've watched two women who came in here to kill their children stumble out and sort of be carried out by the fathers of the children and so it's it's it really can be a devastating emotional experience to be out here, to be so close we've been in this for maybe about a decade, preaching the gospel at abortion mills, raising up churches to go and save lives, thousands of children have been saved through the work of the churches through End Abortion Now who have come out to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope and love to mothers and fathers who are going in to kill their children but where we're at we can't get this close to the abortion mills so this for me is a really powerful experience not just because of how close you can be to the mothers and the fathers who are going in there to kill their children how close you can be to the paid assassin who's out back smoking and to the staff that are out there smoking in between killing children but it's an amazing place to be because of what's taking place at this location
04:14:15: John Barros is my hero of the faith one of my heroes of the faith he's been out here faithfully, he's been a silent hero for so long every single day coming out here to preach the gospel to these mothers and fathers to plead for the lives of their children he's been doing it for 16 years
04:14:33: I call him a silent hero because he was doing this and he was faithful out here every single day before people really cared about who he was or had cameras on him or could do live feeds out here he was just saving children by the thousands before it was cool and so many miracles have happened here at the
04:14:55: Orlando Women's Center too many miracles to actually talk about right now on this particular clip but miracles happening
04:15:03: I mean even everyday I've talked to the two men that are out here today and they've already seen I think two or three saves today just by being here, being faithful standing on the truth and preaching
04:15:14: Christ, but I wanted to show you this, this for me is a moment that I will never forget
04:15:22: John's one of my heroes, he's inspired me to do this work and abortion now exists in many ways because of his testimony and his work but I've wanted to come here for so long to experience just being here at the place where God has moved to save thousands of children from death over so many years and I've wanted to come here because well because of this this is actually a very very powerful thing
04:15:51: John, many of you guys know stands on crutches so not only does he come to the abortion mill to preach the gospel and save lives all day long and let me just tell you right now it's hot out here, it's hot, it's not comfortable but he stands on crutches and he's been here for so long, so faithfully been here for so long for 16 years that he's literally worn the sidewalk down he's worn the sidewalk down, right in front of the doors where the mothers and fathers are going in to kill their children this has been his station right here, this is his spot and this is where the gospel has come from, this worn down sidewalk right into those doors into those mothers and fathers in there who are going to kill their children the gospel has come out from this spot so many thousands of times and God has saved so many thousands of children, to my mind this ought to be a monument it is a monument it's a monument to one man's faithfulness, to a silent hero a man who's given his life for these children and I was saying this earlier so many thousands of children are going to go through their whole lives and never even hear the story of the hero who saved their lives, many of the mothers and fathers who turned away from killing the children aren't going to tell their child you know,
04:17:19: I was going to kill you and then this man stopped me, they'll never tell them who knows?
04:17:25: God knows, John knows, those mothers and fathers know, but their children, they won't know that their life is a reality because of one man's faithfulness in this hot sun, outside of this one place of death for so many years and there's a monument to his heroic acts, there's a monument to his faithfulness and it truly is incredible because I don't know if it comes through on the camera like it does when you're here but if you feel the sidewalk all around here it's consistent, it's rough but as soon as you move over here
04:18:12: John has stood here and you can see where he's worn the sidewalk down and even where when he was standing on his crutches he's worn the sidewalk down to where this is white but it's not just white, he's literally worn it down to where there's holes in the concrete you can feel this man's faithfulness the monument to it all of this dark and consistent and then the concrete just worn down from the weight of his body pushing into those crutches leaving a mark of gospel faithfulness going through those doors and it's powerful because wouldn't it be amazing if one day like this was an actual historic site
04:19:04: I think it ought to be I know it is in God's mind but to me this is one of the most precious moments of my life to be able to see this because this man and his silent faithfulness this silent hero was out here preaching the gospel to these women saving lives long before most of us got involved in this there are many heroes besides John don't forget that but many of us today who are out preaching the gospel and saving lives are doing it in a particular context that's just so different John and others like him were out here as silent heroes before most of us had woken up and here's the monument to his faithfulness
04:19:48: I'm so glad I got to touch it and you can not just hear this story you can not just hear this story and say oh that was amazing praise
04:20:01: God for this man and move on don't do that don't do that we're a part of this now as the church with the gospel to save lives and preach the gospel this is about the truth this isn't merely a political situation
04:20:22: I'm not trying to draw on your heart strings there's real children being slaughtered inside this location and others like it that are near you you can be a part of what
04:20:35: God is doing to save children and to bring the gospel into conflict with the issue of abortion
04:20:44: I've been asked to give five tips on how to get started in abortion ministry everywhere you go everything's going to be a little bit different but these are five things that I think are pretty essential number one
04:20:58: I think that the best deal is when we are able to own that abortion clinic when you're able to get somebody there full time to head up the ministry there
04:21:09: I'm so thankful that there's people around the country now that are doing that but it's very important to own that place
04:21:17: I'm at my abortion clinic every day and there's people that can come and minister they know that they're going to be in Orlando that day or a certain day for some other doctor's appointment or something so they know though that they can come by that clinic and minister there for an hour or two or do whatever on any day and then once everybody knows that you're there then it flows that people would come down and minister with you it's very important that you have the local church behind you and that you're supported and fed and taken care of by the people in your church that they agree with you that they're behind this type of ministry that they believe that the church should be down fighting for the lives of innocent babies and that the gospel should be brought to such a wicked place now
04:22:13: I know there's a lot of people whose churches aren't behind them for that but I would suggest then that you try to find another church
04:22:22: I know that I wouldn't be able to do what I do if I didn't have the support, love, and care of not only the leaders in my church but also the members of my church.
04:22:34: Well they provide care, prayer, love they support financially they also have a support for the people that choose life there's a group of women at our church that when someone chooses life at the abortion clinic you can turn them over to them and they'll be discipled, they'll be taken care of they'll become involved in their lives and it's a very important thing another thing that you need to do is to know scripture, especially scripture that pertains to the ministry down at the mill
04:23:15: God tells us in Romans 1 that the gospel is the power of God so when we come there our two weapons are our prayer and God's word and that's those are the tools that he has instituted for us to fight this fight with so you don't want to go down there without a sword, you don't want to go get into a battle without a sword so just study as much as you can of scriptures that pertain to what
04:23:47: God thinks of abortion, what the consequences of it are his faithfulness to everyone that is obedient and commits themselves to him and repents of it always have and always be looking never quit looking actually for resources,
04:24:04: I'm fortunate that I have several pregnancy centers in the Orlando area but we also have people in our church that do and everything from adoption to just taking care of whatever needs they have but just always know what you can now it takes time
04:24:25: I know if you're going to go start at a brand new place, it's going to take you time to figure all these things out but the
04:24:32: Lord will lead you in it it's very important too that that you have follow up with these ladies as much as they'll let you into their lives, there's a dear lady that comes down and helps the clinic where I'm at, her name's
04:24:46: Karen she has bible studies and everything for people that choose life and tries to disciple them and tries to lead them all to Christ and be involved evangelistically in their families as well, that is really important because so many of them if you're not careful can fall through the cracks even when you are really trying to not let anybody fall through the cracks it can happen so you want people that can take care of that thing, like all
04:25:23: I can do myself personally is I go to an abortion clinic and I try to speak to people as they're arriving and then
04:25:34: I preach the word and then they come out and someone chooses life pray with them and send them on their way with resources but I can't be involved in all these people's lives and the people that,
04:25:54: I'm just the like the mouth and then there's all these other people that are hearts and hands and arms that are so desperately important and that is the key to truly having a ministry it's a whole package these are just a few points that I was asked to bring out and I would just encourage you to research it all yourself it's your baby,
04:26:32: God gave it to you, regardless of anybody there, when nobody else is there, there's love right here, right there
04:26:44: Hi, my name is Deanna Peterson this here is Dion first of all, he looks just like me so he's the cutest and he's,
04:26:56: I think he's smart from, you know, he's only four months now, but he do a lot of stuff that is really fun to see you know, it's fun to see them grow up and do stuff that they wasn't doing yesterday or the day before and then
04:27:12: I imagine what he gonna look like when he get Bryce age Bryce turn two in a week you know emotions are already high,
04:27:23: I just had my first baby and then when he was turning one, then I found out
04:27:28: I was pregnant with him I was not having a good luck with jobs my living situation wasn't really that good you know, like, what am
04:27:38: I gonna do now but, you know, I figured it all out and he's here now so,
04:27:44: I had actually been sitting inside for a while when I had walked past originally, you know, like everybody was just waving them off at me like you know, you gotta go do what you gotta do
04:27:54: I walked back outside cause I was like really impatient about it, I'm like dang, there's like 30 ,000 people in here like everybody wanna do the same thing on the same day, so I went back outside I called my children's father and my mom was outside cause she was the one who took me up there she didn't wanna really take me, but I'm like you know,
04:28:15: I'm thinking there's something I gotta do like mom, please, can you just take me but then I did stand there and I had a conversation with Andrew and it really changed my perception from that point on cause
04:28:29: I had the same mindset same decision thinking when
04:28:36: I was pregnant with my first son, I was like oh my god and then I had somebody save me then too so, you know, it'd be a blessing that them people do be outside cause ain't no telling where I would be without either one of them cause
04:28:47: I love them so much if Andrew wasn't outside,
04:28:57: I probably would've still took the time to really contemplate it cause once you in there you know, you kinda start feeling guilty, you'd be like you don't really know if that's what you wanna do but then you think about, you know of course you think about who's gonna be there for you and all that stuff, when it really don't matter cause
04:29:14: God's there for you you gonna be there for them life would be different, you know, I'd just have my one versus my two um you know, honestly
04:29:25: I'd probably be in the same situation I was in because you know,
04:29:30: I wasn't really pushing hard enough and trying hard enough but I had him and I guess it gave me a little more strength, it gave me a little more faith to fight and keep going just imagine the little you like, if somebody ended your life, you wouldn't be here so, you know, like why would you take, this is a gift to you, you know why would you take that away from me when
04:29:51: I'm mad and I be sometimes don't wanna look at him sometimes cause I'm so mad but then I do and then
04:29:57: I'm just, I'm overjoyed, I'm filled with life love and everything in between other
04:30:43: Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children years ago when we started this ministry we told you that we were a
04:30:54: Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel we did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion we wanted to establish justice to abolish this, to criminalize it and to end it once and for all when we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free, we wanted to educate them we wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill as of today, over 615 local churches have signed up, they have been equipped, they have been trained, they have gotten free resources we haven't taken anything from these churches, we've wanted only to give to them and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free over 615 churches countless lives have been saved at this point, thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us, you gave to this church to equip these churches and now thousands of children are alive because of that, we knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
04:32:04: Christian perspective that worked towards the end the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation we knew that we needed to speak with the gospel demanding immediate justice to our legislators we started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice, that all has happened and now, we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion, right now in the state of Arizona, we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize, not regulate to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona, Roe v.
04:32:41: Wade is a court opinion, it does not have the force of law, it is not a law and that is admitted now, number one we don't know exactly what she would do our expectation is that she may very well move to overview, overrule
04:32:57: Roe, the only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation, making
04:33:03: Roe the law of the land that's what I would do we needed to educate believers that Roe v.
04:33:09: Wade is a court opinion and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s we knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion, they call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves you'll never end abortion with that mindset with that world view, the pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder, what
04:33:40: Christians would call it we've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice we've been able to do that through your support over 615 local churches now out saving thousands of lives we have now established other media ministries, we through your support have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content, just like Apologia Studios, we've given them high end cameras and recording equipment sound equipment, tripods, lenses so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
04:34:20: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion we've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland in the
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04:34:45: I want to speak to you from the heart here, we are not trying to create an industry I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue we are working as a
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04:35:27: Roe vs. Wade and to criminalize abortion at the state level it's going to be happening here in Arizona it's already being submitted and all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
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04:37:23: Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia, through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one, it's happening in Arizona right now we have people all over the country now who are in this, this is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line and I just want to reiterate again,
04:37:57: I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
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04:39:42: I'd be so grateful if you did do you believe in sin?
04:39:48: when I say believe I don't mean believe in committing sin, do you believe there is such a thing as sin? I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being delinquents prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they're born that to me is the greatest sin that people can commit hey guys,
04:41:18: I'm Jeff Durbin, this is Luke Pearson we are in front of the Margaret Sanger Clinic this is actually one very historic site, literally literally a historic landmark but historic in terms of the evil wicked things that began here really shaped the course of the future in the
04:41:41: United States of America and shaped the culture itself and it really started here at this first legal birth control clinic in the
04:41:50: United States of America and this was the birth control research clinical research league, bureau and this particular location here
04:42:03: Margaret Sanger worked long and hard for a moment, a space in the
04:42:08: United States of America where she could actually promulgate and propagate her world view, which was a wicked, evil world view let's be honest,
04:42:16: Margaret Sanger is no hero she's lauded as a hero today but we need to understand who was
04:42:23: Margaret Sanger, is she the hero everyone thinks that she is? No, not at all so who was she, what did she believe? So she was born in 1879 to an atheist immigrant father and her mother was
04:42:33: Irish Catholic she actually was secretly baptized into the Catholic Church when she was a child and then when her mother passed away at 17 she went off to boarding school and that's when everything changed for her she became all about free love and feminism and socialism and she at that point began to hate
04:42:53: Christianity and so at the turn of the 19th century we see at the same time she's around, right, you have
04:43:01: Stalin, you have Hitler and you have Mussolini and the other three, not
04:43:07: Margaret Sanger, the other three are obviously villainized, right because they combined approximately 30 million people they murdered what's crazy,
04:43:16: Margaret Sanger, you're talking about she's a hero to so many people she's more than doubled that now because of Planned Parenthood and the amount of people she's killed even before they had a chance to live, so yes, definitely not a good person by any means, definitely not a hero, definitely someone that we should be telling the truth about.
04:43:33: So we're talking about telling the truth about Margaret Sanger, Margaret Sanger actually believed that there were lower classes of people or lower races of people who were not worthy to be cared about they were seen as parasites and her particular world view, it wasn't just about birth control, the birth control clinical research bureau league everything she was doing here, it wasn't simply about birth control, taking a pill or a diaphragm, she was smuggling from overseas, that really wasn't the main point, right, she had a world view that she was living out she was putting legs on, birth control was just the tip of the iceberg, what was underneath that is that she actually believed
04:44:15: I know she believed the Slavs she believes the Eastern Europeans, she believed the
04:44:20: Black people were actually the lower class of human beings, Jews, and she wanted to actually have something with legs on it that would actually help to exterminate and those classes of people, exactly, and she actually is on record saying that she wanted to exterminate the
04:44:40: Negro population, and so is it an accident that we see that in the history of Planned Parenthood and this movement that Margaret Sanger began, that we actually see the abortion clinics, abortion facilities, in predominantly lower income areas, is it an accident we see it right next to where there is a larger population of Black people, and Hispanic people she believed that the
04:45:09: Aryan race was the superior race, the fit race everyone else was unfit and so one of her mentors,
04:45:16: Thomas Malthus, he actually taught that we should only allow essentially those to live that were necessary for the desired population and everyone else should be necessarily exterminated so if you weren't needed, you should be put to death even before you had a chance to live.
04:45:35: So when we talk about sterilization and things like that, that goes along with that. Yeah, absolutely, and so she
04:45:43: Malthus actually he wanted to put the unfit, these other races Negroes, as they call them, not what
04:45:50: I say, Hispanics whoever that wasn't Aryan he wanted to cram them into housing projects, narrow streets and wanted to introduce the plague to them that was his desire he literally wanted to exterminate them, and she was all for that speaking of what we have today at Planned Parenthood there's a saying that good roots produce good fruit now with Planned Parenthood, bitter roots have produced bitter fruit
04:46:17: I was just reading a little bit ago essentially, almost half of the black of black babies are aborted in this nation, almost half here in New York City it's over that, it's over half of all black babies are aborted in New York City, so it's exactly what she wanted only it hasn't gone quite as far because there's still a black population and there's a propaganda machine that makes her dream
04:46:44: I can't believe I'm touching this right now, that makes her dream her vision seem like it's about women's rights and their bodies and their freedom when in reality, if you know
04:46:55: Margaret Sanger and if you know her world view if you know the world view of the killer angel then you know that really what's going on behind Planned Parenthood the women's rights reproductive rights my body, my choice, all that there's something really much deeper beneath that she got what she wanted in terms of her believing there was a lower class of human beings believing that black people ought to be exterminated believing that they shouldn't propagate as a race she got what she wanted and in particular we look at New York itself in New York her dream is fulfilled
04:47:35: I mean she's wiping out the black population it's a wicked, evil, disgusting thing she was an evil disgusting, disgraceful human being and it began, much of it here right here in this location on this regular old street in New York City right here, what we're touching right here this
04:47:55: Margaret Sanger clinic you see, world views have consequences, theology matters if you were to talk about Margaret Sanger for 60 seconds if you had 60 seconds to tell somebody about Margaret Sanger and why she was evil and why her vision of the future was wicked, what would you say?
04:48:15: well first she was an atheist, she was a socialist she was a thief, a liar and an adulterer she wanted free love she abandoned her husband and her children she stole from Planned Parenthood at one point she actually was removed from the board because she was stealing funds that they raised to invest them in the black market the list goes on and on, she lied about her resume, she lied about who she was she actually went as far as to change the record in her mother's family bible in order to make herself look better she was a vile, evil person there was nothing righteous about her whatsoever and yet she still celebrated she was a
04:48:53: Nazi sympathizer, you look at Stalin and Hitler, both took what she was preaching and applied it to their regimes in the
04:49:04: USSR and I don't know, I guess it was Russia then and Germany, she actually had Hitler's main guy that was in charge of sterilization and eugenics was on her board at one point so she was supportive of all the
04:49:18: Third Reich eliminating the Jews, which is crazy we're saying that because literally right next to us is the what is this called?
04:49:26: the Center for Jewish History it's right next door and she wanted to eliminate them it's crazy, that is wild right here at the
04:49:34: Margaret Sanger Clinic the first legal birth contraceptive clinic in the
04:49:41: United States of America is literally next door to the Center for Jewish History it's insane it's amazing that they can be sitting next to each other in terms of everything that she believed about the future her hatred for particular races, particular classes of people is something that's disgusting and ought to be actually exposed
04:50:03: Margaret Sanger was no hero her vision of the future was no utopia it was a perverse, disgusting
04:50:11: Nazi -esque utopia but I think one of the things that most awes me about this is this is just some regular old street in New York City and this was not very long ago in our history and so much evil swept across the
04:50:32: United States of America because a woman believed in something evil but she held to that world view and she fought for it and because you've got this woman who planted here and fought for this 60 million babies dead in our country because of her movement because of her belief system and if anything
04:50:51: I can think of is that there are little little pieces of land little moments in history where things can legitimately happen
04:51:01: I mean not far from here is Stonewall and so we're actually in a little piece of property in New York where we have the first legal contraceptive clinic in the
04:51:16: United States of America that actually launched the abortion movement to just slaughter babies wholesale and then actually
04:51:23: Stonewall the Stonewall riots were not far from here at all and there's another movement that actually changed the course of our nation the culture in our nation that came from her essentially so you've got
04:51:37: Margaret Sanger, you've got Stonewall and this little part of New York City so much happened here that actually recreated the culture in many ways so for me
04:51:50: I think about that as obviously us as pastors thinking about the future is that it doesn't take massive armies to change a culture it takes people who believe very strongly in what they believe in and they're courageous enough to start standing up and fighting for it now
04:52:06: I want to say when unbelievers can do that and become national historic landmarks after slaughtering 60 million human beings
04:52:16: I think we can do it with the gospel and with enough courage and boldness to be willing to lay our lives down to shape the future yeah we stand on truth we have answers to everything she stood on atheism, nothing she had to borrow from our world view and this is important,
04:52:31: I think especially for where we're at now in our culture with this movement infiltrating the church now she firmly believed that Christianity and the church was her number one enemy of course and she sought to destroy the church from within and her and Malthus and all of her friends they hated
04:52:54: Christian benevolence and generosity because they saw that as their enemy they saw the church helping those women that couldn't care for their babies she saw them as the enemy so she encouraged the women to abort their babies to murder their babies instead of allowing the church to help and unfortunately the church has fallen right in line with that and so I think it's pretty eye opening where we are now again she's got what she wanted if you look at a lot of the early tracks and propaganda that they were handing out here, from this clinic they would say things like hey, birth control don't kill your baby, don't take the life of your baby, she was actually arguing against abortion like just do it, like diaphragms and just take these pills and what about this medication for her early on it was because she was propagating her world view she can only do it an inch at a time so early on she was actually saying don't kill your baby, don't take the life of your baby after you've created the baby just take these pills, just do these things first and as soon as she got legalization as soon as she got into effect what was seen before as perverse it really was it was against the law because it was seen as perverse then that's when it moved into the next stage which was actual kill your baby you should be able to kill your baby at will so it starts just incrementally small steps, small stages and Margaret Sanger got what she wanted but Margaret Sanger belongs if there was a
04:54:23: Mount Rushmore of wicked people in history and if it was like Stalin Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Margaret Sanger most certainly belongs on that on that mountain of villains, villains in history and it's amazing because you see people like Hillary Clinton and other leftists and liberal politicians actually get in line praising, singing the praises of Sanger.
04:54:50: They're not ashamed of the history. No, they know the history and they actually laud her as a hero of the movement but if you look at her, no question, objectively look at what she said, look at what she did she despised certain classes of people she hated black people and wanted to destroy them and we laud her as a hero.
04:55:10: She was a wicked disgraceful excuse of a human being now of course she's dead now if she was alive we'd be preaching the gospel to her calling to repentance but she needs to go down in history as a villain because that's who
04:55:23: Margaret Sanger was she was a villain this place right here housed one of the darkest individuals in human history
04:55:31: I was going to say, speaking of she actually opened her first clinic in 1923 and was shut down because it was at that point was seen as something that was not morally acceptable and she actually she encouraged something called a
04:55:48: Clorox douche that was her first birth control method. Put Clorox inside, that will take care of everything.
04:55:56: And then when she opened this she started smuggling diaphragms from Holland and just a history of lying of being dishonest of disguising the truth
04:56:10: I wanted to make sure I mentioned this I'm wearing my baby lover shirt because we want to rescue the babies in the womb from being murdered if I was a
04:56:21: Planned Parenthood supporter this would say baby liver because they're guilty of selling baby livers even though they want to lie about it and disguise it and act like it doesn't happen, it's proven it happens and again that's just bitter fruit of the bitter root that's right, that's where it all came from alright so I think one of the things we have to do to end abortion now in our nation is start telling the truth about what happened to get us to this place of abortion wholesale across our land and one of the things you have to do is tell the truth about the villains in history,
04:56:54: Margaret Sanger villain in history, not a hero, not a heroine and certainly not someone to be emulated by any of us she was a villain, she was a liar she had a very corrupt world view and Pastor Luke is right, when you have a corrupt root you will have corrupt fruit and that's what we have with Margaret Sanger and her movement across the
04:57:13: United States of America, it started with a villain and worldwide really, right here in this location right behind us so again, it takes people who are willing to be bold, who believe in their world view and in particular we know that God changes the world through the truth, so get up start speaking the truth, start telling the truth start talking about Margaret Sanger as the villain that she was and let's work to end abortion now are you recording?
04:58:12: let me know when you're going what is winging? the very first thing that she said to us, or said to me was,
04:58:22: I quit and I'm willing to tell you whatever you want to know that's before any offer before any offer, that was before it took her several attempts to reach me because we're not friends and I didn't see the message come across and so she reiterated it and I thought, well, great we can at least meet and it will give me an opportunity to find out where she's at and share the gospel with her so Kim and I took her out to lunch on Tuesday of last week and sat with her for like an hour and a half while she just told us details about what was happening, they were very helpful information for us to have but I knew
04:59:05: Marcus was coming to town so I'm like this is providential maybe she'll agree to it
04:59:10: I didn't really know that she would but she did agree to it we don't believe that she was saved or that she quit because she's against abortion but you and a group that you're with decided to help her out well,
04:59:22: I used to work at Home Women's Health, Fort Worth ended up leaving due to the fact that well, there's a lot of reasons why but the straw that broke the camel's back was made me pick between my small child versus them, is basically what it came down to and I chose child so they didn't win that battle they were increasing their hours they were becoming increasingly more before they were more
04:59:48: I guess more accommodating would be the best word to use, more accommodating to people's schedules and people that have kids versus the ones that didn't because they could do whatever they wanted to and it got to the point where the accommodations just stopped, they wouldn't even listen to them just said no and it came down to well, you can pick your kid or us so I'm like, well, kid wins but I got the impression from the interview that she did not quit out of an opposition to abortion
05:00:16: I think she's been on the wire, on the line with it but I think in the interview it came out that she wasn't really opposed to it so I believe that she quit for practical reasons so with the increasing hours the reason behind that is more patience so they can fit in more people within their certain timeline, because they were seeing so many people during one time, well hey, if we open up more slots, we can see even more people and people that maybe have to go to work but they can't come in at like 4 o 'clock in the afternoon, 2 o 'clock in the afternoon, whatever it may be, so if we open them up after 6 or 7 and we start seeing patients maybe about 740, stop having them scheduled at 740, 730 then we can see more people and squeeze more people even in.
05:01:01: She did share with us some information that I think would be helpful and one of the things that we don't know because we're never in there but she said that the people inside can hear every word that you're saying when you're preaching, especially on the amplification.
05:01:15: Depending on how depending on where someone was so if you were on the if you were facing the building, if you were on the left hand side of the building, we could hear you pretty well.
05:01:25: That's very helpful when we're out there with an amplifier and we can say hey, if you're there right now, you know, you need to get out of there and we can speak more directly to that situation, very helpful.
05:01:36: Are there women who are upset because they know they're killing their child?
05:01:42: Do you think there's women in there that don't know it's a child? About a 50 -50 on that one.
05:01:50: I think some of them, maybe they're in denial maybe probably the best way to put it is denial about it.
05:01:59: Then there's some in there that come in like they've been there several times and they know exactly what they're doing, they know exactly what's going on and they're like just get it done,
05:02:11: I don't care. I was always on the fence with it. I think
05:02:16: I reconciled it a little bit because I didn't actually go in the room rooms when they were doing anything, so I think that's kind of how
05:02:22: I played it out in my head because I was either working in the front office doing paperwork, like looking at a bunch of paper all day or I'm just taking some vitals here and there or maybe drawing some blood other than that,
05:02:35: I wasn't having anything really inadvertently with it. What I thought was interesting too is that they insulate the staff from that.
05:02:42: There's only very few people who get to see the gruesome part of it and I think that's to insulate them for what they're actually doing.
05:02:49: Although they know it, but I think it makes it even more real to them when they see that. What you're bringing to light here is that they're not treating the patients badly, they're treating their own staff badly.
05:03:00: Yeah, they're just trying to get people in and out as quickly as possible. Because of the money. It's all money.
05:03:06: Yeah, because if they can get them in and out, especially then they also push the surgical. They push that one more.
05:03:13: Yeah, it doesn't make more money. Well, it's not even that they make more money especially when they're like say someone's seven weeks.
05:03:21: They're not going to make more money off someone doing surgical versus the medication because they're the same price.
05:03:27: They're the exact same price. So no matter which way you flipped it they're the exact same. And they push the surgical because apparently there's like a quota he has to meet for the surgicals themselves.
05:03:39: Not so much the medication but for the surgical. I'm not sure why. I never was told why.
05:03:44: I just was told that we really need to push surgicals or whatever because of...
05:03:50: Well, that's where I would wonder about the whole selling stuff. They take it to the bathroom.
05:03:59: There's a dirty path and a clean path. So she takes the jar and dumps it into that little...
05:04:06: It's not really like a colander. It's like one of those things you kind of like almost like pull out of something from a deep fryer.
05:04:12: The best way I can describe it is kind of like that metal wiry mesh kind of deal.
05:04:18: And then they rinse it out. And then I know that from there they end up dumping it onto a light table that you'd use for drawing.
05:04:24: And then they put it on there to make sure. And sometimes the doctor would actually ask to verify...
05:04:30: I'm not sure exactly. To verify they got everything? Yeah. He would come in like, okay. I guess he would give it a little once over.
05:04:37: Okay. And then from there I know they would put it in a biohazard bag. I've seen the biohazard bag.
05:04:44: And then put it in the freezer. And then it sits in the freezer until whoever it is that comes to pick it up.
05:04:52: And one time that freezer actually went out. That was horrible. We ended up having to buy a new freezer and have it sent in.
05:05:01: Like she literally went to like Costco or something and bought like another small. Because it's not very big. It's about yay wide freezer and about as tall as the table.
05:05:10: So it's not a very large freezer they keep in there. When it goes out obviously it stinks in there.
05:05:17: Yeah. Whenever you would open that dirty path door it was bad. It was really really bad.
05:05:24: Just the door to the room. Yeah. Because that room was sealed pretty well in the first place.
05:05:30: So you only got to smelt it whenever someone had to open that door. I can just imagine that the feeling inside that these babies that they had murdered were going to start to stink and that there was a bit of a panic for them to get another freezer.
05:05:46: I thought that was really telling of what goes on there. Very telling. It's the reality that of bloodshed and murder.
05:05:53: It's the evidence. Based on what she was saying it really kind of matches up with the
05:05:58: David Dalyden videos that keeping those remains in the freezer what other purpose would there be for the quotas, right?
05:06:10: It's just horrific, right? I mean imagine you're trying to make sure you've got all the pieces of a dead baby.
05:06:18: New at noon an important appeals court ruling on the Texas law requiring doctors to perform abortions to show sonograms to patients.
05:06:27: Now federal appeals court in New Orleans says that Texas can enforce the law.
05:06:32: With the sonograms, what are they showing the women? What do they show them? They only show them if they ask.
05:06:39: So if they ask, then they show. I had a couple of patients that came in and they asked me, can I see it?
05:06:44: I'm like, yeah, that's fine. You can see it. I'm not going to stop you from seeing it. If you want to see it, just tell them,
05:06:51: I'll tell her in the hallway, make sure that she's aware that you already want to see it. I would do that at least.
05:06:58: I know other people probably wouldn't have done it, but I would be like, hey, this patient in room one wants to be able to see the sonogram.
05:07:03: Just heads up. And they're like, oh, okay. But if they don't want it, if no one tells them beforehand or they don't tell them, they won't show it.
05:07:13: Well, the fetal doppler or sonogram machines don't do anything with that because they're old.
05:07:19: Yeah. One's a little newer, one's a little older, but they don't have that capability of sound.
05:07:25: So they don't have that sound capability. And I don't know if that was by coincidence or what.
05:07:32: But the fetal doppler, since the sonogram machines don't do that, they have to have the fetal dopplers in each room that they have procedures in order to if say that they want to hear the heartbeat, they'll be able to hear a heartbeat.
05:07:45: I've never they're still in the box as far as last time I checked because I have never seen anyone bust it out of the box.
05:07:53: Like brand spanking new. Like brand new, still in the box. I think it still has like the paper stuff like wrapped around it.
05:08:03: Well, what you're seeing there in that interview is what we said in babies are still murdered here that the industry, the abortion industry can they don't have to follow these pro -life regulations.
05:08:15: There's loopholes. And this is just proof of what we were talking about there that these pro -life regulations will not, they're unenforceable.
05:08:27: Completely unenforceable. They do what they want with those loopholes to fit what they're trying to do, make money.
05:08:35: And again, there's no one that's really standing over his shoulder making sure the Texas state law regarding Well that's, who's supposed to be doing it is the clinic manager, but she's,
05:08:47: I don't know, she's doing whatever so. Okay, but she doesn't, so she's normally not doing that.
05:08:52: Yeah, she's normally either running around like a chicken with her head cut off or she's not even there or she's just hanging out in her office talking to one of the other managers and yeah.
05:09:02: So that's not happening from the office manager standpoint. Oh yeah. So yeah, okay.
05:09:08: Even though these types of clinics are the enemy, I mean, we as Christians have to be fair to them.
05:09:14: This was one woman. One woman. We didn't have corroborating testimony from her, so we believe that she has no reason to lie.
05:09:20: Right. And what she says might not have been accurate. I mean, I trust what she said, but we have to keep in mind that this is uncorroborated testimony and we have to give them that benefit as Christians even though they are the enemy.
05:09:31: A few months ago I remember women coming out of the clinic limping really dramatically.
05:09:37: It looked like probably they had a torn uterus. A bit from just having been out in front of clinics for a long time.
05:09:44: Just observing and knowing what happens. So do you know of that happening often there?
05:09:53: No. It's only happened once and like the one time since I was there.
05:09:59: And that was because a patient was not listening and they were trying to like, you need to be still. You know, we don't want to do anything to hurt you.
05:10:06: We need you to be still because there's something sharp and stuff like that. You've got to be still. Okay. And she just kept wiggling and everything and he's like, well,
05:10:16: I think I just ruptured her uterus because she just wiggled. She literally turned one way and then flipped again really fast.
05:10:24: And so he's like, well, okay. I think that just happened because she won't be still. But the funny thing about that is they only have to I guess file a report of some kind if he knows for a fact he did it.
05:10:42: But if he suspects he did it, they don't have to file a report. So on that one, they suspected.
05:10:50: He said, I suspect I did because the way she was moving and the way she started bleeding, I suspect that I might have.
05:10:56: And then, you know, call an ambulance and all that and get her out of there. Yeah. As long as he suspects, unless he knows, knows, then they have to file a report.
05:11:05: But if he says he suspects it, then they don't have to. So there's a loophole built into them so they can dodge it.
05:11:11: Pretty much. Okay. Another loophole. Okay. One thing that struck me with interviewing
05:11:16: Amanda as well is that if it's not a gospel proclamation, I mean, we're thrilled that she quit her job.
05:11:22: But if she doesn't repent and put her trust in Jesus Christ, she is no closer to heaven for quitting her job. So our goal is not to get women to quit their jobs.
05:11:30: Right. It's not to get women to stop killing their babies. Ultimately we want that, but we want it because we want them to be saved.
05:11:36: Because if they don't kill their baby for pragmatic or practical reasons, or they quit for practical reasons, they're still going to hell.
05:11:42: Right. So that's why I, you know, you as well, believe that we go to the clinics to share the gospel with them because it's a target -rich environment of unbelievers.
05:11:49: Right. Because I don't believe a true believer would go there and kill their child. Yeah. All we will do from here on out is just continue to minister to her needs and continue to you know, present the gospel to her.
05:12:06: My experience before I came to Christ, I was a pastor for about 12 years. And when
05:12:12: I realized I wasn't even saved, but I was pastoring, I was preaching every Sunday, doing all that. And then
05:12:17: God revealed through His word that, you know, I was a hypocrite because I was doing one thing, saying one thing, you know, and do it completely different.
05:12:28: And so, you know, my concern about anyone that's there, and obviously
05:12:35: I'm including you, I'm going to be direct, you know, would be that, do you really know Christ? You know, knowing
05:12:40: Him changes us to a degree that, man, we wouldn't even want to be a part of it.
05:12:46: And I understand, like, coming out of college or looking for work, and it's the job that opened up. Yeah, it was literally boom, boom.
05:12:53: Like, it was like, I got done with medical assistant school, like, in February, I was there in March.
05:12:59: Right. It was just boom, boom. It was quick. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, the thing I encourage everybody in the
05:13:05: Bible Belt, two questions. Number one, what is the gospel? What's the content of the message?
05:13:11: Well, obviously Christ died for sinners. He rose from the dead. Our sins can be forgiven if we repent and place our faith in Him.
05:13:18: But then the second question, I think, is more important, is what difference does that message make in our lives?
05:13:25: If there's no difference between us and like, what is going on in the life of an unbeliever, maybe an atheist or whatever, then we have reason to be concerned, you know.
05:13:37: And so I say that to you out of concern for you, you know, that you know Christ and that ultimately one day that you are in His presence, you know, apart from, you know, the garbage we face in this life.
05:13:52: And so our desire is, you know, hopefully one day God will, you know,
05:13:58: I don't know your heart. Only God knows people's hearts. But you know, if you're not, if you haven't trusted
05:14:05: Christ, that's our desire is to see that happen. We can't make that happen. Right. You know, we don't do that whole walk the aisle, pray the prayer thing.
05:14:12: You know, we believe if God's going to do something, He'll do it. So that's how we believe that. But yeah, and you know that we're,
05:14:20: I've expressed this to you before, but we're available for whatever you need. You know, as you're looking for a job, we'll help you do that.
05:14:28: You know, try to help out where we can. When we had these people coming in all the time, like literally they were here in February and next thing you know, like that name looks familiar.
05:16:06: Why does that name look familiar? And then all of a sudden you see it like, wait, oh, that's why it looks familiar. She was here in February and now she's back in April.
05:16:14: And then, okay, she was here and then all of a sudden you see the same name again. Like, what is this? And then like it's
05:16:20: June and she's back again. It's like, do you not understand what's happening here? Yeah, once they're in path, they take the, so she takes the jar and dumps it into that little, like a little, is that even like a colander?
05:17:08: It's like one of those things you kind of like, almost like pull out of something from a deep fryer. And the best way
05:17:13: I can describe it is kind of like that metal wiring mesh kind of deal. And then they rinse it out and then
05:17:21: I know that from there they end up dumping it onto a light table that you'd use for drawing. Have the two, like, small, like,
05:17:29: I guess it would be like the best way to describe it, a casserole dish. Like clear casserole dishes, like really small ones. And then they put it on there to make sure and sometimes the doctor would actually ask to verify the way.
05:17:42: It was really sporadic if he did. It was like here, there. Just, I guess, sometimes if he wasn't sure.
05:17:49: I'm not sure exactly. To verify they got everything? Yeah. He would come in, like, okay, I guess he had like a little once -over.
05:17:56: Okay, and then from there, I know they would put it in a biohazard bag. Sometimes I've seen the biohazard bag.
05:18:02: And then put it in the freezer. And then it sits in the freezer until whoever it is that comes to pick it up.
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05:27:31: How are you guys? Good to see everybody. Praise God. Thank you for having me. I'm just going to read a scripture for you real fast.
05:27:39: If you would, just take a moment to pay close attention to this. Proverbs 24 verse 11.
05:27:47: Here's what it says. Rescue those who are being taken away to death. Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
05:27:56: If you say, Behold, we did not know this. Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
05:28:03: Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it? And will he not repay man according to his work?
05:28:12: That's a powerful text of scripture and if you heard it, you heard that's you and that's me.
05:28:21: Rescue those who are being led away to the slaughter, being taken away to death. And the answer from scripture, from the
05:28:27: God of this scripture, the God that established this nation, is that if you say,
05:28:33: We didn't know. We didn't know. It says, Doesn't he who weighs the heart know it?
05:28:39: Doesn't he know that we know? And will he not repay man according to his deeds?
05:28:46: It's a powerful text of scripture. It's a challenging text of scripture that challenged us. I'm a pastor of a church in Phoenix.
05:28:53: It challenged us about a decade ago. Of course we were Christian. Of course we were pro -life.
05:28:59: Of course we thought the pro -life industry was doing their duty to end abortion in our nation and we learned that they're not.
05:29:06: Their focus is regulation, not abolition. It's regulation and not criminalization.
05:29:13: They have professed themselves that they are not Christian institutions. They are not standing on scripture and we learned very early on that if we are going to end this, we need to end it with courage as Christians first and foremost.
05:29:27: First and foremost. Have you all noticed, I'm sure you've noticed lately, none of us can deny this now, have you noticed lately that the radical left, those who would be self -professed unbelievers, do not want to compromise on their positions?
05:29:43: They say, this is our position, this is what we're fighting for, this is what we're doing and have you noticed that conservatives, those who profess to be followers of Christ even, are the ones who are always compromising, the ones who will not exhibit courage, courage enough to believe this, if you are not with me, you are against me.
05:30:04: Those are the words of Jesus. If you're not with me, you are against me. I want to encourage you guys to think about something for a moment.
05:30:13: This man over here, Walt Blackman, he's not just a good man, a strong man, a courageous man.
05:30:19: I want you to know this and you're going to be seeing this a lot in our state over the next couple of months. This man is the hero of the children in Arizona.
05:30:29: And I want to explain to you why many of you may not even know this. It hasn't become fully public yet, completely so that everyone can know about it.
05:30:38: Right now in Arizona, please hear this, this is massive, it is earth shattering and it is mind altering, trust me.
05:30:45: In Arizona it's never been changed. AZ Statute 13 -3603 AZ Statute 13 -3603 makes abortion a criminal act in Arizona.
05:30:59: It has never been changed. This man, this man, the hero of the children in Arizona is going to point to that statute and establish that law so that abortion is not regulated in Arizona, it is a criminal act.
05:31:16: Abortion is murder. We are human from conception.
05:31:25: Listen closely, you win this argument. There is no way to surmount this argument and outdo it, overcome it.
05:31:34: Number one, biblically speaking, God says that he's the creator of life. He knits us together in our mother's womb.
05:31:41: We are human beings, image of God from conception, that cannot be disputed. Number two, biologically speaking it is a matter of scientific fact that from the moment of conception, the moment of conception, you are human from that very moment.
05:31:57: The only difference from that moment to where you are now is a difference of degree, size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependence.
05:32:06: All this talk about black lives matter, I want to know if the black lives in the womb matter.
05:32:16: Because the black community is the community most in danger from extermination via abortion.
05:32:26: We have about 3 ,000 human beings exterminated, murdered.
05:32:31: Listen, I know we're trying to have a good time and a good rally here but I've got to be honest and courageous enough to tell the truth.
05:32:38: Every day in our nation, in our streets, in our neighborhoods, every single day, 3 ,000, about 3 ,000 human beings lose their lives.
05:32:47: They have their heads cut off, their arms taken off their bodies, their legs taken off their bodies, and they are disemboweled every single day.
05:32:59: And I want to grant something as a minister of the gospel. That is not something any of us can fully comprehend.
05:33:06: All we can do is think about it one baby at a time. So we started going out as a church many years ago with the gospel of Jesus Christ first and foremost to the abortion mills.
05:33:17: We said, number one, mom and dad please don't murder your child. Number two, there is hope in Christ, forgiveness in Christ.
05:33:24: And number three, we will help you. We will pay for everything. We'll even adopt your child. Because of that work we've raised up 500 churches globally doing the same.
05:33:35: And as of today, thousands and thousands and thousands of children are alive today because of that work.
05:33:44: I have a son who is eight months old. He's adopted.
05:33:50: He was going to be exterminated and aborted. We have children who are at my church.
05:33:56: They show up before the pulpit running around circles in front. Olivia Grace and Cara, twin girls saved from Tempe's planned parenthood because Christians went out with the gospel of Jesus Christ and offered to help and called it what it is.
05:34:10: This is murder and we won't tolerate it anymore. And so what I want to ask of you is this.
05:34:16: Is to consider this. What's happening in our country is very simply this. It is a collision of world views.
05:34:24: It is the world and life view of those who stand on this revelation as the truth of the living God. This is the objective standard and those who deny it.
05:34:33: Did you know that this nation, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the reason that is so meaningful and brought so much peace and freedom and justice is because the principles behind all those things come directly from this book.
05:34:47: This book. The people who established this nation, the
05:34:52: Huguenots, the pilgrims, the Puritans, the Christians who came over and established this nation.
05:34:58: Did you know this? Did you know this? In the colonies, they named the Triune God of the
05:35:04: Holy Scriptures as the God over their state. When they would make treaties with other nations, they would make that treaty in the name of the
05:35:11: Triune God of the Holy Scriptures. They knew that this book is the standard of all truth.
05:35:19: And did you know that John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice, when he was creating the case law system of our nation, our first Supreme Court Justice, he would name directly the verses from which he was establishing the law on this nation.
05:35:33: If you want to know where we've gone, you need to look at how far we've departed from this revelation.
05:35:39: And I want to encourage you, if you're someone who professes faith in Jesus Christ, you call this the truth.
05:35:45: Stand on this truth. Be courageous. And please hear me on this. Over the next few months, we're going to need you.
05:35:51: We're going to need you because when, where'd he go? When the hero of Arizona's children calls abortion what it is, murder, and says it will no longer be tolerated and we're going to criminalize this, there's going to be two things coming at Walt.
05:36:07: You need to know what it is. Number one, the pro -choicers, the pro -aborts, the people who say we should be able to murder our children in the womb, and please hear me on this, and please be gracious enough and humble enough to hear me, because I am not the enemy.
05:36:23: The pro -life industry that does not want to criminalize it, does not want to call it murder, that wants to regulate it, they will also come against Walt, trying to stop what he's doing.
05:36:34: I've seen it in another state, Oklahoma. In Oklahoma, there was a senator named Joseph Silk, who put a bill in to criminalize abortion immediately.
05:36:43: Do you know who the opposition was? The pro -life industry. They stopped it. So if you want to give money to somebody to help them stop abortion in this state, give it to Walt Blackman.
05:36:57: If you want to give money, give it to the Christian churches who are ending abortion, not regulating it.
05:37:05: And if you want peace and righteousness and justice and freedom to prevail in this country, it isn't going to be through mere political commitments.
05:37:13: It's only going to be because of what Christians said in the past to establish this nation. Are you ready for it?
05:37:19: And I'm almost done. This is, by the way, a miracle you're seeing right now. They told me I had five minutes. That's only about an hour less than I usually go.
05:37:27: Here's the answer to the hope of this nation. No king but Christ. That's the answer.
05:37:36: The gospel is the answer. The problem we see with the rioting and looting and sin in our streets is just that, sin.
05:37:43: The answer to our problem of sin is peace with God through Jesus Christ. Jesus is
05:37:49: God in the flesh, lived perfectly, died for sinners and rose again from the dead. The only hope of anybody in this world is through faith in Him.
05:37:56: The call of the gospel is to repent and believe the gospel. Come to Christ for life. Join us as we criminalize the injustice of abortion in this state.
05:38:06: Be courageous. No compromise. This is murder, and it's ending in our state. Thank you.
05:38:12: So, I'm going to bring up in a moment here, Rusty Thomas. Some of you guys probably heard this story before, but I was friends with Marcus, and he sent me a private screening of Babies Are Murdered here.
05:38:25: This is many years ago. I dropped my kids off. They're homeschooled. They have a co -op, and so I drove across town.
05:38:32: I dropped the kids off. I see Marcus' message come in, the Dropbox file. I can preview
05:38:37: Babies Are Murdered here before everyone else sees it. And I'm in my car after I dropped my kids off.
05:38:44: I did not know who Rusty Thomas was, but I sat there in the parking lot, and I watched
05:38:49: Babies Are Murdered here in the parking lot of my children's co -op all the way through. And there are moments in my life that I can mark as very profound, that feel like yesterday, that were totally transformative for me.
05:39:05: Moments. Not a lot, but there's spots there, and I can always point to those moments where God did something enormous in my life to change my heart, to change my mind, to put me on a new course that affected so much of where you see we are today.
05:39:19: And this was one of those moments. Again, never had known who Rusty was, but I'm in my car, and I'm watching
05:39:27: Rusty preach, and my life was totally transformed from that moment in my car, watching on my smartphone from a
05:39:36: Dropbox file. I was in my car, and I was weeping.
05:39:45: Weeping during that sermon. And I became completely convicted and challenged.
05:39:51: I would have identified my whole Christian life as pro -life. I would have told you that abortion is wrong, and every year,
05:40:01: I think even from the way he planted Apologia Church, it wasn't many years before he started this, but on a particular
05:40:07: Sunday I would preach a pro -life sermon, which is the norm, right?
05:40:12: You preach that pro -life sermon on that day, you talk about pro -life issues at Starbucks, and it's in your
05:40:18: Christian bubble, and that's pretty much the extent of it. And after God used Rusty's sermon in my life, it went from Starbucks to our little huddle to the world, and it was because of a very faithful message.
05:40:31: Preacher Rusty Thomas, who has now become one of my friends, solid brother, and a mentor and father in the faith.
05:40:37: So Rusty Thomas, come on up, brother. And I actually have a really cool two cool experiences with Rusty I'll share with you, just on a personal level.
05:41:15: One is I got to sit in Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office for about an hour with Rusty, my son, and Sheriff Joe, which
05:41:27: I never thought How'd that happen, by the way? I don't know. Okay. It's a
05:41:32: God thing. And it was a God thing. And so we were with Sheriff Joe for about an hour talking to him about the cause of abolition, and sad to say, but I'll go ahead and share with everybody here, sad to say it never happened, but basically he was up for re -election, and he did tell us in his office that day that if it was his last time being elected, it was going to be his last run, if he was re -elected, he was essentially going to criminalize abortion.
05:41:59: The doctrine of the lesser man. Yeah, in Maricopa County, in Phoenix, he was just essentially going to wave the banner of him as Sheriff Joe, and toughest sheriff in America, and he was essentially going to say no more abortions allowed, and then
05:42:12: George Soros funded his opponent's campaign, and he won, and so Sheriff Joe didn't.
05:42:18: But it was actually an amazing experience to see that if you get in front of a sheriff like Sheriff Joe, he was willing to actually put his neck out and say,
05:42:26: I'll stop the murder of children in Maricopa County. Unfortunately, in God's providence, he wasn't allowed to be sheriff again, but it did open my eyes to something.
05:42:35: These sheriffs are out there, and I think that they will do their duty if Christians will get in front of them and call them to consistency.
05:42:44: So that was my first story with Rusty. Second one is fairly recently, we had a difficult last couple of months of ministry.
05:42:52: I don't think I told you this, but I had all this stuff going on in my head, you know, just praying and everything else. I sat down with Rusty, and I was there to minister to him, and it turned into two hours of him basically telling me everything that was in my head.
05:43:05: It was one of the most divine things in my life, and I just wanted to share that with you. It was really crazy. I was there for you, and the next thing you know, it was two hours of you ministering to me and telling me everything that I'd been praying about and thinking about.
05:43:17: I don't know if you saw my face the two hours we were sitting there having lunch together. I don't know if I looked like a deer in the headlights, but I was thinking, how does he know everything that I've been asking
05:43:28: God about, and you just were speaking to me? And I was supposed to be there for you, so I'm sorry. Were you there? You were there for me.
05:43:34: You were there for me, and it meant a lot. It meant a lot to not just me personally, but my family.
05:43:40: Praise God. Thank you for that. Of course. Thank you. So, Rusty, you've been doing this for a very, very long time.
05:43:50: Go ahead and tell us, what does this mean to you? To see a consistent bill.
05:43:57: Listen to Senator Silk a moment ago. Where in the world did he come from? Well, we had been praying for him a long time.
05:44:05: I know. We didn't know it was him, but the prayers were there for a very long time. Right. Well, what's it mean to you to see all this come into fruition?
05:44:13: I mean, you've been standing outside of abortion mills with the ashes of dead babies falling on your head.
05:44:20: What's this mean to you, to see all this? Wow. Well, we started,
05:44:28: Jeff, I think a lot of us that are older in this room, a lot of us got birthed in this battle in the fall of 1988 at the
05:44:39: Atlanta Democratic National Convention. And my own personal story was
05:44:49: I was always a preacher of righteousness. I was a pastor. I was an evangelist.
05:44:55: I didn't shy away from the burning issues of the day. And even back then I was saying abortion was murder.
05:45:04: And of course there was a huge struggle because I was saying one thing, but I was living entirely different kind of life.
05:45:15: And so my rhetoric and my actions were not consistent with the
05:45:21: Almighty. And so the way the Lord kind of did some things that actually set me up is
05:45:30: I came across this videotape called The Massacre of Innocence. And up to that point, abortion was something we kind of argued about.
05:45:41: You know, you had pro -life rebuttals to pro -choice arguments and things of this nature.
05:45:48: So it was an issue we debated like back and forth. But up until that time
05:45:54: I had never seen an abortion. And so this pastor friend,
05:46:02: I call him a friend, he absolutely ruined my life. Because he gave me that videotape.
05:46:12: And so one night I was all alone and put the tape on and it was first theological, it was doctrinal, it was tracing the roots of child sacrifice, the shedding of innocent blood biblically.
05:46:28: And he did a tremendous job, it was Eric Holmberg, did a tremendous job biblically, but it was the latter part of the video that it was my
05:46:40: Isaiah 6 moment where I literally had saw the Lord and His mind towards this.
05:46:48: And so he had this, the old rocker Pat Benatar and she had a song about child abuse called
05:46:56: Hell is for Children. And every time she screams, hell is for children.
05:47:05: There were like pictures of a aborted baby and I'm literally seeing like arms and legs like severed from the torso, decapitated heads and it was like blood everywhere.
05:47:24: To tell you I was not prepared for that assault upon my mind, my emotions, my inner man,
05:47:34: I just, it was too much and I literally turned off the tape,
05:47:40: I ran into my bedroom and I just lied prostrate before God and I'm talking about a wailing so intense that my chest hurt.
05:47:49: It was like an accordion, like there was sounds coming out of me like a wounded animal. I couldn't believe this nation that I loved had sunk to this level of depravity and wickedness.
05:48:03: And so I was undone. I was literally undone. And then a week later
05:48:10: I'm watching TV, I'm watching Christians at death camps, singing praises to God, praying and being arrested and hauled away from death camps, living out the doctrine of interposition to save these babies lives and I'm like what meaneth this?
05:48:35: And then a week later, this all happened within three weeks, a week later
05:48:41: I get a knock at a door from a local pastor and he asks me am
05:48:47: I the pastor of this church? And I said yes sir I am. He says we need to talk. And I said talk about what?
05:48:55: He said I just got back from Atlanta. You were in Atlanta?
05:49:04: And he said yes sir. And as soon as he said that the tears started streaming down my face.
05:49:10: Yes sir. We have to talk. What is happening? What's going on here?
05:49:16: He said I'll tell you what's happening is God is birthing a spirit of repentance in the church of the living
05:49:25: God because up to this point we had pointed our finger at the Supreme Court, we pointed our finger at the pro -choice groups, we pointed our finger at the usual suspects but this is the first time we're pointing the finger at the church of the living
05:49:44: God. And God used that to birth repentance and the fruit of the repentance was living out the doctrine of interposition.
05:49:54: And so brother, that was the start of actually awakening the evangelical church to the evils of abortion.
05:50:07: Now through the years obviously it's gone up and down and back and forth and things of this nature.
05:50:13: And when we started we could only see from afar what is taking place right now.
05:50:20: And then through the years God has raised up different brothers and different sisters.
05:50:27: I mean the work that was started here in Oklahoma with the abolitionist movement, with men like Russell Hunter and Josh Malone and others in this area.
05:50:39: You know, we in the rescue movement had the same biblical principles.
05:50:45: There was no compromise, no exceptions. But I gotta tell you there was men like Russell and others that God used to really tighten and refine the language and the terminology and to tighten up the principles.
05:51:02: And then all of a sudden, you know, God uses Pastor Matt Chuella who produces this tremendous work, the
05:51:11: Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate. And as far as I am concerned, that is the book for this time in our nation's history.
05:51:28: And so what has happened you have sort of the old time rescuers who always believed these things to be true.
05:51:39: But through others like Russell, like Pastor Matt, like others, they actually took those biblical principles and created a platform that we can now stand on those principles and bring it into the political realm.
05:52:00: This is huge. One of the reasons why I never fought the battle politically,
05:52:06: I always fought it culturally, I always fought it on the streets and then the churches.
05:52:13: One of the reasons why we could not, according to conscience, fight this battle biblically, politically, is because we were compromised to our core.
05:52:25: We were making deals with the devil that God did not give us the moral authority to make.
05:52:33: And so when these brothers came along, they literally, what they provided for the
05:52:44: Church of Jesus Christ is a solid foundation that honors the
05:52:51: Lord, that upholds His truth and His commandment. And now we're bringing it into the political realm to once again disciple the magistrate and call them to do their duty, which is to use their lawful authority to interpose, to welcome these children into this life and protect them by law.
05:53:18: Huge. So people may not be able to tell from your hat, you're a
05:53:28: Texan. Where's Russ? Where is he? You guys are kind of in a race to see who will be the first state, right?
05:53:39: You trying anyways? First state to abolish abortion? I think we're all sort of competitive by nature.
05:53:47: But here's the thing though, Russ has helped us in Texas, and of course we help him here.
05:53:52: Absolutely. You guys have the anti -Joseph Silk there in Texas, don't you? An anti -Joseph
05:53:58: Silk? Yeah. Who's that? Senator Leach. Oh lord have mercy. Did you have to bring that up?
05:54:05: Well here's what I want to ask you. What can Texans or non -Texans do to help you guys in Texas?
05:54:12: In your fight, what you got going on? Okay, well just give you a little update on that.
05:54:22: First of all, thank you for all of you that reached out to our family when we went through our situation with our son
05:54:31: Jeremiah. And I do want you to know that God did not waste his life nor his death.
05:54:38: And God powerfully used it in the state of Texas. And you're going to be interviewing
05:54:45: Bradley Pierce right after me. He was very instrumental in taking what
05:54:54: God worked through Jeremiah to build a little army in the state of Texas with the
05:55:01: Jeremiah Wish campaign. And he'll tell you more how God prospered that.
05:55:08: How many saw the actual hearing in Texas when hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of abolitionists addressed that committee?
05:55:22: It might have been a world record, I don't know. It might be one of the longest hearings in history because we started in the evening and we didn't end until like 3 or 4 o 'clock in the morning.
05:55:36: I mean, incredible. We did make history. That was the first time a bill of abolition was allowed a hearing.
05:55:48: And God's people showed up in force. And I believe it was
05:55:58: Thomas Hoffling who has run for president under the American Party. He said before the committee there, do you recognize what's happening right now?
05:56:09: Are you hearing what is happening? He said, this is the death rattle of the pro -life movement.
05:56:15: And you don't even know it. You don't even know it, but it's happening.
05:56:22: And I got to tell you, brothers and sisters, the toothpaste is out of the tube and it's not going back in.
05:56:28: This is the future. In Jesus mighty name, you mark it down. Amen.
05:56:34: The train is leaving the station and it's time to get on board. But anyway, you know,
05:56:42: Jeff Leach was very personable. He was patient.
05:56:49: He was somewhat kind. And he was, you know, patronizing to Kendra and I over the loss of our son.
05:57:02: And we appreciated that. Honestly, we did. But the fact of the matter is when it came to a bill of abolition that would completely outlawed abortion in the state of Texas, he said because there's a penalty against the woman,
05:57:25: I cannot in good conscience support the bill. So he allowed that bill to die in committee.
05:57:35: So it never got out so people can vote on it. But I got to tell you brothers and sisters, these bills of abolition are so critically important because what
05:57:44: Luke is getting here at is that there are pro -life politicians who
05:57:54: I truly believe want to end the suffering and the injustice against the pre -born but they're getting their marching orders from pro -life organizations that allow them an easier way to deal with this issue.
05:58:14: So one of the things that the bill of abolition does, it does separate the wheat from the chaff.
05:58:20: Do you understand what I mean? It begins to expose those who say they're pro -life only to get votes for their campaign and check it off.
05:58:31: Okay? And so Jeff Leach really was exposed.
05:58:38: Now here's the iron of it. He is now known as a pro -life champion in Texas getting all kinds of awards and yet it was him and his committee that killed, allowed to die the only bill that would actually have ended the suffering and the injustice against the pre -born.
05:58:59: And so that's being exposed right now. Can I have you stress that again especially for people who are maybe just jumping on this live stream that missed the first half as we're talking about the pro -life lobby and the pro -life industry, their methodology.
05:59:12: I saw Leach at the March for Life do a live stream and I struggled to watch it.
05:59:23: I really did. I want to pray for the man. I want to show as much respect and as grace towards him as I possibly can.
05:59:29: But I know that he's responsible for stopping the bill that would have actually ended and criminalized abortion in the state of Texas.
05:59:37: And he was doing a live stream talking about life and pro -life and these different things in Washington.
05:59:44: All the while he stopped the bill that would have criminalized and ended it. That's a heavy weight on his shoulders that he will answer for.
05:59:53: It's 110 ,000 children that will be butchered in the state of Texas.
06:00:00: And we have to wait two more years before we can address it and put forth another bill of abolition.
06:00:08: So we pray for his repentance. But he is responsible. And again as people are getting onto this live stream or they're hearing about this for the first time we are really criticizing the pro -life movement and we're doing a lot to expose the inconsistencies.
06:00:28: But it is ultimately the inconsistencies of the pro -life movement, the pro -life legislators that is ultimately keeping abortion from being ended and abolished.
06:00:40: And so a man like Leach is responsible in Texas. He's the pro -life champion that stopped the bill to criminalize and end abortion.
06:00:51: I know it seems tinfoil hat. It seems conspiracy theory. It seems like that's wild and it can't be the case.
06:00:58: But it is the case that the pro -life movement is keeping abortion alive. Just to give you sort of a biblical narrative.
06:01:08: You know, you think about the Apostle Paul, you know, where he's starting his great missionary work, right?
06:01:15: And so he's blazing a trail. He's introducing the gospel of the kingdom into the world.
06:01:22: God is establishing his beachhead, these local churches throughout his missionary journeys.
06:01:29: And who comes behind him to undo and destroy the work?
06:01:36: The Judaizers. The Judaizers. Right? To get everybody back on the religious reservation.
06:01:48: Right? And so literally, this is what we're seeing as we're moving throughout the land from city to city, state to state, introducing this movement of abolition.
06:02:01: Who are the ones following behind to make sure the legislators and make sure the magistrates get back on the pro -life reservation?
06:02:11: It is these pro -life organizations. And so here's the problem, guys.
06:02:18: See, this is a cozy arrangement where everybody gets what they want, right? So the pro -life politician gets their vote.
06:02:27: The pro -life and pro -family groups get money. They take pictures together. One provides cover for the other.
06:02:35: Everybody gets what they want except the one who needs our help the most, and that is that pre -born child.
06:02:44: And so I gotta tell ya, this unholy alliance needs to be broken in the mighty name of Jesus!
06:03:01: And we gotta get back to God's program. Which, honestly, what we're seeking is three things.
06:03:10: States, city, county, states, ignore all, establish justice, and abolish all abortion now.
06:03:29: That is the message. That is the mission. And the Church of Jesus Christ, we need to get back to God and fight this battle
06:03:39: His way with His tools and His word that He has granted to us.
06:03:46: No more compromise. No more regulating baby murder.
06:03:52: Rise up and end it once and for all in Jesus' name. Amen? Hi, I'm Jeff Durbin, pastor of Apologia Church and the head of EndAbortionNow .com.
06:04:11: I am so excited to present to you what God has done over the last year through your prayers and your support, all that you've done to partner with us as a
06:04:19: Christian church trying to equip other Christian churches globally to save lives at the abortion mill and to establish justice, immediate justice for these pre -born children.
06:04:29: Years ago when we started this ministry, we told you that we were a Christian church that wanted to make this about the gospel.
06:04:35: We did not want to work with the pro -life industry who were trying to regulate the issue of abortion. We wanted to establish justice, to abolish this, to criminalize it and to end it once and for all.
06:04:45: When we first started, we told you that we wanted to raise churches up, to equip them completely for free.
06:04:50: We wanted to educate them. We wanted to provide for them all the resources to go out and to save lives at the abortion mill.
06:04:56: As of today, over 615 local churches have signed up. They have been equipped.
06:05:02: They have been trained. They have gotten free resources. We haven't taken anything from these churches. We've wanted only to give to them and through your support, we've been able to equip them and train them and give them all their resources to save lives completely for free.
06:05:15: Over 615 churches, countless lives have been saved at this point. Thousands upon thousands of lives are being saved and they continue to be saved on a regular basis because of what you did with us.
06:05:28: You gave to this church to equip these churches and now thousands of children are alive because of that.
06:05:34: We knew that we needed to create a media ministry that was a platform that could communicate consistently on this issue of abortion from a consistent
06:05:42: Christian perspective that worked towards the end, the criminalization and the abolition of abortion in our nation.
06:05:50: We knew that we needed to speak with the gospel demanding immediate justice to our legislators. We started a movement across the country of Christians going to the legislature and demanding immediate justice.
06:06:00: That all has happened and now we've been able to work with Christians across the country who are working with their legislators to criminalize the issue of abortion.
06:06:09: Right now in the state of Arizona we have a representative who is presenting a bill to criminalize not regulate to end the issue of abortion in the state of Arizona.
06:06:19: Roe v. Wade is a court opinion. It does not have the force of law. It is not a law and that is admitted now.
06:06:27: Number one, we don't know exactly what she will do. The expectation is that she may very well move to overview over rule
06:06:36: Roe. The only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making
06:06:41: Roe the law of the land. That's what I would do. We needed to educate believers that Roe v.
06:06:47: Wade is a court opinion and states need to reject an unjust ruling by judges in the 1970s.
06:06:55: We knew that we needed to actually approach this consistently in a way that was different than the pro -life industry has.
06:07:02: Where they're working towards regulation and not the ultimate criminalization of abortion they call mothers and fathers who have abortions victims themselves.
06:07:11: You'll never end abortion with that mindset, with that world view. The pro -life industry refuses to call abortion murder what
06:07:18: Christians would call it. We've wanted to raise churches up to actually equip them to focus on this issue as Christians.
06:07:26: Not with neutrality, but with the gospel demanding immediate justice. We've been able to do that through your support.
06:07:31: Over 615 local churches now out -saving thousands of lives. We have now established other media ministries.
06:07:38: We, through your support, have actually given numerous churches their own media kit where they're actually going to be able to produce their own content just like Apologia Studios.
06:07:48: We've given them high -end cameras and recording equipment, sound equipment, tripods, lenses, so they can do what we're doing to broaden the reach of the voices of those within the
06:07:59: Christian church who can speak to this issue with consistency as Christians for the end of abortion.
06:08:05: We've been able to raise up churches in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and in Scotland who are speaking to this issue as Christians in Ireland, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada.
06:08:19: God has made this movement global and it's happened because of your support with us. I want to speak to you from the heart here.
06:08:27: We are not trying to create an industry. I long for the day when we shut all this down and don't ask for another penny to support these churches and to criminalize this issue.
06:08:37: We are working as a Christian church to criminalize this and to establish justice and to save lives.
06:08:43: You've helped us to do that, and you've helped us to do it in a way where we've been no burden to the churches.
06:08:48: We've just helped them, equipped them. You did that. You supported us. You prayed, and right now we have legislators in Indiana, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and in Arizona who are going to be putting in bills to criminalize abortion, to resist
06:09:05: Roe versus Wade, and to criminalize abortion at the state level. It's going to be happening here in Arizona.
06:09:13: It's already being submitted, and all that's happening because of the work of EndAbortionNow .com
06:09:19: and other believers across the country who are trying to establish justice, true justice for these pre -born children.
06:09:26: Will you join us again in 2021? Of course, pray for us. Of course, please sign up at EndAbortionNow .com
06:09:33: with your church. Save some lives with us. There's Christians all over the country that need you to join us.
06:09:39: We need your help to save lives, but also partner with us so we can equip more churches, develop more media ministries to speak to this issue in the public square together, and to once and for all criminalize abortion in our nation.
06:09:53: Help us to meet our matching donation for 2020. Help us through 2021 to save more lives and to end the slaughter of these innocent pre -born children in the womb.
06:10:05: When you give to EndAbortionNow .com, you're giving to equip local churches to save lives. That's all there is to it.
06:10:12: Lives are being saved every single day across the country and around the world now because of believers just like you who gave.
06:10:21: You are helping to raise churches up and you are saving lives. You're helping to establish media ministries like Apologia Studios that are speaking to this issue consistently, that are raising up Christians, that are helping to actually end, to criminalize the issue of abortion.
06:10:37: You're helping us to actually train and equip Christians to do what we've been able to do across the country now.
06:10:43: Christians have been able to talk to their legislators and demand immediate justice. Just think about this.
06:10:49: Ten years ago, we weren't in a place that we are now, where we have legislators who are actually saying, end it.
06:10:57: It's over. We're criminalizing this. We're abolishing it. Now we're here. Christians have been working so faithfully in this area and you can partner with a ministry like Apologia through EndAbortionNow to raise up churches, to bring the message of the gospel into conflict with abortion, and to bring the message of immediate justice to legislatures across the country like this one.
06:11:19: It's happening in Arizona right now. We have people all over the country now who are in this.
06:11:25: This is unprecedented in our time to see so many changes right on the line.
06:11:33: And I just want to reiterate again, I am so looking forward to the day as a pastor, where we never do another one of these videos except just to celebrate what
06:11:42: God has done. We never ask for another penny. The pro -life industry is an industry.
06:11:47: It's a business. When you give this to the church, the church can work with the gospel to end this issue and never ask for another penny.
06:11:56: Brothers and sisters, will you give? Help us to match our donation so we can fund all the work for 2021.
06:12:04: Will you help us in this moment in time to work to the end of abortion as the
06:12:09: Christian church? Help us to work in such a way that we end this, we don't regulate it, we criminalize it and establish justice for our pre -born neighbors now.
06:12:20: That's what's happening. So many churches, so many lives saved. Now more media ministries than ours able to speak to this with good quality content, with a consistent message and working with the legislators to criminalize this issue in our country.
06:12:35: Will you partner with a Christian church that makes this about the gospel, that makes this about ending abortion once and for all?
06:12:44: We can celebrate together when we never ask for another penny from a
06:12:49: Christian to end this issue because it's ended. Go to endabortionnow .com
06:12:56: Sign up with your church to join us in saving lives. Go to endabortionnow .com
06:13:02: to give towards the work of 2021. All of your giving goes towards raising up churches, saving lives, creating media content and media ministries to speak to this issue and to training churches to actually end this at the legislature.
06:13:18: Join us for 2021, brothers and sisters. I'd be so grateful if you did. Thank you everyone again for tuning in to this tonight.
06:13:28: I'm super excited to be able to speak to everyone tonight. If you don't know who I am, my name is Luke Pearson and I'm the discipleship pastor at Apologia Church here in Mesa, Arizona, and also one of the co -founders of End Abortion Now.
06:13:42: Like I said, it's an absolute honor and privilege to be speaking to you tonight.
06:13:48: My dear friend and brother, and really I consider my father in this fight,
06:13:55: Rusty Thomas, who I see you sitting there in the front row, brother. He asked us to prepare what he called the message that we would give to any magistrate or pastor if given the opportunity.
06:14:09: So you just heard one of my best friends and one of my fellow elders here at Apologia do an excellent job of presenting a biblical view of cowardice.
06:14:19: And now I want to follow up with an open message to any and all pastors or magistrates admonishing you to be courageous and to stand tall in this fight to end the slaughter of our pre -born neighbors and their mother's wombs.
06:14:35: To boldly make decisions based upon biblical principles of truth and to lead by example, even if you're all alone.
06:14:45: I have a quote here from Charles Spurgeon. He once said that the weakest of minds are those which go forward because they are born along by the throng.
06:14:55: The truly strong are accustomed to stand alone and are not cast down if they find themselves in a minority.
06:15:03: So you may feel like you're in the minority, but when you fight on the side of Almighty God, you are never truly alone and never ever in the minority.
06:15:16: Before getting too far into this message, I want to tell you a quick story.
06:15:23: Which by the way, I know Rusty gave the three of us about an hour and a half, so we'll see how we do with that.
06:15:30: We're used to each speaking at least an hour. Pastor Jeff's after me and an hour would be a miracle.
06:15:37: So, we're going to do our best to get done in an hour and a half here. I want to tell you a quick story. Back in the first week of March of this year,
06:15:46: B .C. as I call it, before COVID, Pastor Zach, myself, and Pastor Jeff, who's up next, we had the unforgettable and life -changing opportunity to go on the
06:15:58: Covenantor tour in Edinburgh, Scotland. Without getting too far off topic, it was amazing.
06:16:07: We were able to see the church and the pulpit of John Knox, his house, his grave, where he's literally buried in a parking lot.
06:16:16: What an amazing man. If you don't know much about him, you need to study up on him.
06:16:21: He's an amazing Scottish Reformer. We also saw, we went to the museum and we saw the
06:16:27: Scottish National Covenant of 1638. It was literally signed in blood by the
06:16:35: Covenanters. They signed their names in their own blood. These are the same faithful men who ultimately founded our nation.
06:16:42: We saw the devices used to torture them. We heard incredible stories of their martyrdom and even touched.
06:16:48: We laid our hands upon the blood -stained guillotine used to behead them.
06:16:54: Literally, I'm not exaggerating when I say this, as soon as we finished the tour, we stood there in utter awe and amazement.
06:17:02: We were ready and willing and inspired to fight. We literally asked ourselves, we looked at each other and we said, what is
06:17:09: God preparing us for? The moment we landed back in the U .S.,
06:17:14: within two to three days of us landing back, COVID hit. And immediately we were forced with a decision, even if we should gather or not gather for worship.
06:17:24: Needless to say, we were left with no choice but to defy tyranny at all cost.
06:17:31: John Knox himself once said, resistance to tyranny is obedient to God.
06:17:38: And I now want to encourage you to do the same. But before going any further, let's look at the main passage of Scripture that I want to drive home tonight.
06:17:47: It's Proverbs 24, 10 through 12. It says, if you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small.
06:17:54: Rescue those who are being taken away to death. Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, behold, we did not know this.
06:18:02: Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it?
06:18:08: And will he not repay man according to his work? Before going any further,
06:18:14: I'd like to start off in prayer. Lord, I thank you once again for this opportunity to be here tonight and to preach this message,
06:18:23: Lord. I ask that you get me out of the way, Lord. I ask that you use this conference, these messages tonight,
06:18:28: Lord, for your glory. I ask that you would use them to end this modern Holocaust in our nation. Use them to encourage and inspire and motivate pastors and legislators.
06:18:39: And most of all, Lord, I ask that you would be glorified in Christ's name we pray. Amen. So, a brief outline of my talk tonight.
06:18:48: First, I want to look at two stories from scripture that I hope and pray will inspire you to take courage.
06:18:54: And then next, I will speak directly to pastors and then directly to legislators. And lastly, I will close by admonishing everyone together.
06:19:02: So, the stories I want to talk about, the first one is David and Goliath, which we're probably all familiar with.
06:19:08: 1 Samuel chapter 17. We all know the story, right? But I think we often look at what is actually said.
06:19:16: So, David first came to the Israelite camp and he saw Goliath for the very first time.
06:19:22: And Goliath literally says he was breeding threats against the Israelite army. Verse 26, here's