School Shooting the Movie by Ray Comfort | Rapp Report Weekly 0011 | Striving for Eternity

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Church, go to strivingforeternity .org. All right, welcome to another weekly Rap Report. We are back to the regular gang. Well, we have an additional member of the gang, but we have been doing a number of interviews.

I hope you guys have enjoyed talking with some friends and some others, being able to hear from folks like Jay Warner Wallace and Sean McDowell and others, Jim Osmond. We've had a number of interviews, good stuff.

I hope you've been enjoying that. But today, what we want to deal with on this podcast is a new movie that is out on YouTube. It is available for you to watch for, well, free. That's right. It is a new movie by Ray Comfort.

And before we get to this movie, I will plug another movie that Ray has coming out. Ray has a new movie that will be out soon, I think end of this month, either no end of end of June. So I'm not sure when this podcast is going to drop, but it may be June when this drops.

But a new movie coming out called The Fool. It is a must see for every Christian. I think this is, if any of you have had that feeling that you've been embarrassed, you've been worried about how the world is going to view you when you share the gospel, the movie The Fool will be a great encouragement to you.

Ray Comfort opens up, talks about some of his own life and talks about just a little bit of how the world of atheists came in, mocking him, insulting him, trying to humiliate him. And instead of taking that and just basically hiding away, he really saw that through advice from a friend as a way that God used to really open up doors.

And it allowed him when we were at the Reason Rally, as folks may know, I organize an event every year at the Reason Rally when they have their atheist convention or worship service, whatever you want to call it.

But when they gather every four years, we evangelize them. And I invited Ray out and Ray came with his team and we had a thousand Christians to evangelize the hordes and hordes of atheists. Actually, no, no.

They said they were scared. They said that they would have 20 to 30 ,000 atheists and only about 4 ,000 showed up. We made up one fifth of their group. And they said that it was our fault that no one was there.

They were so afraid, those Christians might share the gospel with us. Yeah, that's what they were doing. But one of our new guys who is here, it was the first time I met him in person was at that Reason Rally.

And that is Josh Smith. We'll hear from him in a bit. We'll probably, I'm just saying, we'll probably hear some marriage advice from him at some point. He's got this cool, some great marriage advice. He's newly married.

But for folks who watch or used to watch the Slick Answers when Matt Slick and I used to get together, they know of Josh Smith. They know of his marriage advice and the calm dating. But there's some insight there that we could share with you.

So I will be announcing, maybe John or Vince can remind me if I forget, we will be having a new Preacher's Bible giveaway. We said that we have two Preacher Bibles that we got to give away. And Striving Fraternity will be giving the second one away in the month of June.

And so you have the month of June to be able to enter. And I will tell you those details after we go through the school shooting movie. And so we want to go through this. And so I'll welcome in Vincent and John and Josh.

I don't know, have you guys got a chance beforehand to watch the movie that I sent you?

I have not either. I watched it last night.

Good. So you guys are well prepared. I'm good. I don't want to be biased.

We're coming into this blind and fair. Yeah.

So for folks who are new to hearing Josh's voice, Josh is, well, he used to be in Maryland where the Reason Rally was, not far from where the Reason Rally was. And that's where we had met. And we used to be, I gave a little bit of inside jokes and it's never good to do.

So we've got to explain those jokes. So Josh, we first met on Slick Answers when you were talking with Matt Slick about how you were dating someone and you decided to give her a quiz on the first date.

Yeah. Did it make it to a second date?

It did. It did, actually. I don't know how, but it was an injury though. It was an injury,.

But it did. Really? It made it to a second date? Was that in Iraq, that second date? Did it, I mean, you basically went through Karm articles and started challenging her on her, you know, what her beliefs were.

Didn't she flee to Iraq or something?

No. That's half truth.

So, but you did end up getting married. And after getting married, you came on to Slick Answers and we were glad to see you. And you gave us this wonderful bit of marriage advice.

Yeah. It's been challenging, but it's good. I feel like it's already been forever. It's only.

Been 16 days, so. And Matt and I love that. It's 16 days and you felt like it was forever. I'm glad that you're still married, but it's only because your wife is a wonderful person.

And that his father-in-law can beat him up. That quote was completely out of context. That was the full quote. No, that was, no, no, it was it because I was saying, wow, it feels like, you know, I'm already used to everything.

And it feels like we've already been, you know, been together so long, but it sounded like, because I, it sounded like the.

Way that everyone interprets it. Is that what you're saying? No. I mean, John, am I wrong here? Does that not sound like exactly like how we heard it? Sounds like it to me. I didn't, I didn't interpret anything with that.

Did you? 16 days is important to him is forever. It feels like forever. But we like busting on Josh just a little bit too much. But I think John is right. If you were ever to think about leaving your wife, your father-in-law could beat you into the ground.

And he could do that with just a look. I'm just saying. I mean, if my choice was to get into a cage match with Frank Mullis or have to follow, face your father-in-law, I think I'd go with Frank Mullis.

Just saying. Yeah. Keeps Josh in line, you know,.

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Why School Shootings Expose a Loss of Moral Clarity

So, all right. Let's get into this movie on school shooting. Now, this is more of a serious type of issue. But as we look at this, and I have not been following the news on things. I don't know about you guys, but I've discovered that if I stop watching the news like all the time, I'm suddenly a lot happier of an individual.

But I don't have as much time to watch the news. But there was a school shooting. And I am convinced that Ray Comfort had a lot of this footage already from previous school shootings and was able to put this together kind of quickly to have this out right after the shooting.

But this is something you can watch. And I would encourage folks, we're going to play through it and talk about it. But my encouragement to you, the link will be in the show notes. But my encouragement is that you would share this movie with folks because there is a lost and dying world that is trying to make sense of the school shootings that are happening over and over and over again.

And as we understand from this school shooting, this was not an individual that everyone was watching and looking and thinking he could do this. This is someone who wanted his couple of minutes of fame.

And I will take a page from Al Mohler's playbook, and we will not be naming the individual. We will not give him his five minutes of fame in any way. If anything, the people who were injured and murdered should be named and not him.

But this video becomes something you can share with folks that are asking the question about these repetitive school shootings and in doing so have a way to also share the gospel with them. So I encourage you to consider doing that and sharing this.

So I'm going to hit play and then these guys will raise their hands and let me know when they want me to stop and we'll talk through it. So all right, here we go. I'm just going to speed it up a little bit just at 1 .25.

Shouldn't be too quick, but all righty, so here we go. Go.

Now this is one of the deadliest school shootings in U .S. history as seen for saying that well too often these days. 17 people killed in a mass shooting at a Florida high school.

This guy that recently killed 17 people, do you think he was evil? I don't think he was evil per se. Do you think this guy was evil?

I mean it's hard to define the difference between evil and what's good.

But I feel like... Why is it hard? I think he was evil. I don't know. Was he evil?

Evil? I mean people just don't know about evil. How do you define evil? Now do you guys notice how hard it is for these folks to call murdering of 17 people evil? Yep. Oh yeah. They have no way to ground good and evil anymore.

I think Ray is hitting on one of the major things that people are asking why these school shootings. Is this not a major issue when people can't even refer to someone that kills 17 people as evil? This is what is called post-modernism.

Right here. This is where nobody knows the difference between wrong and right, evil and good. So this is what the result is. When you ask people what is evil or is it evil,.

They just shrug their shoulders. They detach morality from anything that's absolute, therefore subjective of what is good and evil. So they don't really have a way to compare it anymore.

You know this was one of the things I noticed after 9 -11 and that's now 17 years ago. But people were saying it was the end of post-modernism because people could recognize something as being evil and they were calling what happened on 9 -11 evil.

This is 17 years later and they can't refer to this as evil. And we're going to see more of it. But watch how Ray does this. Ray starts with the question of being able to identify evil because I think this is the main problem with the school shootings.

People can't identify morality because they've been told because atheism has to say there is no absolute morality. People no longer are looking at things as a right and wrong issue because they don't want to be accountable to God ultimately.

Why are you hesitating to say that? 17 people murdered, innocent people. How many people do.

Have to murder before you say evil? Yeah, that's a great question. It's an evil person. It was a.

Person who commits rape evil. Yes. Okay, so a man who killed 17 people, is he evil? Now that's amazing.

Right there what Ray just did. And this is, you know, we want to go through this not just for the content of the movie but for folks who don't realize me, Ray Comfort is a master of conversation. He's a master of maneuvering through conversations and that's what you just saw there.

Although, I don't know why it is I always seem to freeze it when someone's got their tongue out. Sorry dude. But, you know, look at the question. The person is saying that murdering of 17 people, he has trouble saying that's evil.

But he could say raping someone, that's evil. And so why the difference? That's the question Ray's asking. Never mind. I was just going to say,.

I mean, we live in a culture that doesn't value life but they do value your self-autonomy. And if you go against that, then that's the big sin. But life, as you see with the abortion industry, is just not all that important to them.

It's a weird double standard there. But isn't the.

Taking of someone else's life violating their self-autonomy? I guess depopulation is a greater good though to the people who survive. Yeah. So I guess, I didn't say it made sense but I just,.

It's there, you know, they value, they don't value life as much. That's their thinking, yeah.

Well, and you know, this is, I mean, this is how a guy like Hitler was able to do what he did, right? And this is how others will continue to do these sort of things. Because, I mean, a whole generation of people can't even say killing of 17 people for no reason whatsoever is evil, is an evil act.

I can say it, it's evil. Okay, so he killed women. He killed some women.

He killed women. It doesn't matter if it's women or men. Well, he worse than raped them. You'll say rape is evil but you won't say murder, mass murder is evil. Why not? You know, this guy that killed 17 people, was he evil?

You know, deep down, I want to say no one's evil. Why do you think no one's evil? I think it has to do with some true things, you know, there's restrictive gun laws and like, and maybe just like focusing on mental health issues.

Also, it's a mental.

Illness awareness issue. Mental health issue. No, it's a sin issue. Yeah, they think it's a system. Yeah, it's a heart issue. Yeah, see, and this is what, there's a whole generation where they want to remove God.

That's why they can't recognize this. You know, and I mean, we're chopping this up. This is why I'm going to put the link in. Folks, you want to watch this in its entirety. Okay, I'm just saying you want to, but we want to point out some things that we're going to see in this.

So, you notice how the culture has such a difficulty recognizing evil. Kid was.

Probably bullied. If you're referring to the one in Florida attack, right? It was an orphan, correct? If I remember correctly, there are millions of orphans that don't go out and kill people. Millions of people bullied.

I was bullied as a kid. Were you bullied as a kid? Yes.

He's bullied as a kid. Josh wants to say something. No, no, no. He was talking about marriage. Don't worry. But I mean, you get the point. It's like he's saying, oh, well, they were bullied. Notice the excuses that these people, these kids are making about to really to excuse the behavior, a sinful,.

Wicked behavior of an individual. They have to place the blame somewhere outside of the individual. It's their environment. It's the system they're in. It's society's fault. It's.

Not the fault of the individual. It's government. It's society. It's politics. It's anything.

It's the laws that we have. They're unjust. They'll always have an excuse.

And so, it's a mental health awareness issue or it's that he was bullied. But I always find it interesting. They're very quick to blame the gun, right? The gun did it. No, no. Someone did it, not a gun.

I mean, they use the gun. In England, they use knives and throw acid in people's face, you know, but they'll find a means.

Why are there so many people? I mean, our great fear is terrorism. Some Islamic terrorists showing up at school and blowing people up. But this is American against American. Why is this happening? That's a question that I think no one can answer that.

I don't know the answer. I mean, how do we stop this happening again?

That's amazing. We have no answer. They have no answer. I've got another question for you. The Bible has an answer, doesn't it?

I like to think that I'm good. So, are you good or evil?

Am I good or evil? I think I'm in between. So, what's your judgment?

Do you notice how he laughs? Like, he doesn't even believe it.

Everybody has a little dark side in themselves. Like, what about you? Do I have a dark side?

Not really. So, what say that?

That's not convincing, though. He looked at Ray like, do you believe me?

I think a lot of these, why they make excuses is because they know they could do the same thing.

Yeah. No, that's a good point. Yeah. That's a really good point.

He killed 17 people. He's mentally ill. I mean, it's again, it's super tricky, I think. I mean, I think I have a simple solution to it. I don't think there is a simple solution to anything that's going on right now.

I'd rather keep him locked up and just have him realize like what he does, he's done, you know. And he already knows what he's done is wrong. We're just going to feed him and close him, give him free lodging for life.

I think it's worse to just suffer in prison by yourself and go crazy than to just get killed.

Do you notice how Ray gets these guys thinking? The guy was already crazy.

Yeah, but he'll go even more crazy and he'll just suffer.

Like that's going to suffer. We don't want to get ahold of guns, but it's not just insane people.

Do you notice as he goes through this, you notice that this is because they don't have a knowledge of the afterlife. They have no fear of spending eternity in a lake of fire. You got another?

Another, yes. Let's say this guy put her in the crosshairs and shot her through the head.

What would you say? You want to put him? You're going into my sphere of moral concern now. It would be executed?

Oh, that'd be kind of ironic, but yeah, sure. Why not?

So now I can happen to, I would get mad.

So if it's this guy's mother, then he'd get mad.

That's a law. You can go either way with that.

But 17 people he doesn't know, that's okay. I mean, it's just, I can't. You know, it reminds me of something that Stalin had said is, you know, killing one person is murder. Killing a thousand is a statistic.

That's really what that guy just said. If you kill his mother, then you should pay for it. But if you kill 17 people he doesn't know, it's not a big deal to him. This is where our culture is at.

The reason why his mother, you know, it's a big selfish generation out there too. So as long as it don't affect me personally, what do I care? And that's a sad testimony.

You know, decide whether or not somebody dies. Abortion. That's making the decision whether or not someone lives or dies. Right. So I mean, I guess with that logic, you should say immediately I'm against it because of your philosophy.

Yeah, of course I am. It's, again, these are just all, because I also believe that...

See how Reid gets them like thinking and they're trapped. He doesn't want to disagree with abortion, but he really can't. With Ray saying, oh, but look at your...

No, I'm not going to stand against you. It's not the woman's body, it's someone else's body.

Look at your own thinking, what you just said. I know, I know.

People like you haven't made their mind up strongly that allow people who think it's a woman's right to kill her own child to go ahead and do it. Do you think this nation has lost the fear of God?

Yes, that's definitely, I'd say, a point.

That, okay, the previous guy, he, Ray nailed it right there where he said, the problem is that you don't want to stand up and actually say something about it. That's what it is. No one is passionate enough to actually say something, to actually say this is wrong, this is right.

That's the issue right there. It's one of the core issues, you know, that because nobody wants to actually have the gall, the guts to actually say, you know, this is wrong, this is right. According to what God has laid out the standard of, you know, this is what we need to stand up and do.

And the problem is, you know, these people don't have that foundation. They don't have any kind of foundation. They're just floating around and, you know, without a rudder. And they have no moral compass whatsoever.

So therefore, we don't really, we can't really say what's equal. We can't say what's good, you know. And then when Ray actually put his feet to the fire, and like you said earlier, when he was saying, you know, when he brought up abortion, he was like, well, I mean, abortion is a whole different category, but yet you are saying that these people were murderers.

Well, you know, be consistent with your stance. But yet they don't want to, because like I said, they don't have a stance. It's not that they don't want to. They can't.

Once you give up God and try to deny he exists, you have no standard to argue for morality at all. I mean, that's why they're struggling. They're struggling because they're a generation of people raised believing that there is no standard of morality other than ones we set for ourselves.

So how can you say that what that guy did was wrong?

You can't. That makes people want to lash out like that.

And if you don't fear God, you don't care about, you shall not kill. And so you go and kill because you're upset at someone, even if you're upset at people you don't know, you just kill them anyway because you don't fear God.

Everything I do as a Christian, I think, is this going to get God's smile or his frown?

And that's how I govern my life. Notice how Ray provides his standard, right? The fact that he knows he's going to face God provides a way of how he's going to live. There's too many in the population,.

So it'd be good if a lot died off and they wouldn't be happy. Massive killing? Um, yeah, I think, hey, no, stop it.

So are you an atheist? See, Ray didn't even believe that guy that he wants massive killing for population control. It's crazy talk.

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Is that what you believe?

Nothing created everything? After one school shooting, the Associated Press reported authorities in Kentucky said a teenager accused of fatally wounding two high school classmates and wounding several others showed no remorse when talking about the carnage.

Police say Gabriel Ross Parker seemed to view his actions as a science experiment. See, you notice how they're connected from what they're actually doing. The biggest thing he gave me was that he said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose.

You see, this is atheism. That's all it is.

Wow. That's right. And that's exactly what we see. What we end up seeing is that when we reject God, this is what happens. You guys have heard this plenty of times, that religion has killed more in all of history, that more people die because of religion, and yet in the last 100 years, not all of history, the last 100 years, atheism has been responsible for killing more people, the murder of more people than all the religions combined in all of history, recorded history.

You know, when you think about what happened in China, in Russia, Stalin, Mao, you know, you look at the hundreds of millions of people they killed in the name of godlessness, because once you remove God, you remove everything that is a right and wrong.

And now it's just what you make right is right. And that's how you can excuse a holocaust. And for folks who want to say, oh, Hitler was religious, they haven't read Hitler. He used the Catholic church, but he only, you know, as any politician, he's going to use it to get his power, but he didn't believe it.

Yeah, he believed he was a devout believer in evolution.

And Ray makes that point later on here, too. Someone threw that Hitler card out, and he's like, politicians kiss babies to get voted, to get votes.

So, it's a good line. ...said, there is no purpose, no evil, and no good. We're merely dancing to our own DNA.

Helen Fisher is a biological anthropologist at the Kinsey Institute.

Let's go back a million years. A man has one wife and has two children. But if he occasionally goes over the hill and sleeps with another woman and has two extra children, he's doubled the amount of DNA he has sent into tomorrow.

So, adultery made it more likely that any given gene pool would continue. Yes. You see how she just justified adultery? Like, I mean, now she really thinks she's intelligent with that. But don't the genes just reproduce regardless?

I mean, I don't have to commit adultery for genes to reproduce. And if it's not me, it could be someone else. And maybe that someone else is better genetically. But you notice how she just makes the excuse.

We have seen the theory of evolution being used to excuse all kinds of behavior that we know is wrong. We know it to be wrong, but we use it to justify sinful actions.

Now, can you imagine them actually continuing on with that thought? Now, eventually, it's going to come to the point like, well, look, I mean, people a million years ago, they went around and they killed people for good reason.

I mean, it's basically what they're going to come across to at some point. They're going to justify killing, even though nowadays they already have justified killing through abortions.

But did Hitler not justify the murder of six million Jews and five million others because of the fact that they were not as evolutionarily evolved as Aryan race? He argued that they were closest to the apes.

So, I mean, follow that logic with all the race topics. I mean, evolution is what teaches that Blacks are closest to the apes, right? That's evolutionary thinking. That's not Christian thinking. We would say it's one race and there's no difference.

It just is a scientific thing. You have either more or less melanin. That's it. They would say it's an issue of evolution. So, really, if there's any group of people that should be standing up against this, it should be the African-Americans because, hey, someone could come along and say, hey, look, you aren't as evolved as us whites.

I mean, that's what Darwin said in Descent of Man. They're not as evolved. It justified the murder of millions of Blacks in Nazi Germany. And they said the Jews weren't as evolved. That's the excuse they made.

And it was a moral thing to do. It was a good thing to do. Lest you think that this is just, oh, this is just crazy talk. Sam Harris, if you read his book, Death of Faith, he makes the argument that it is morally right to kill people if they can't separate their faith from or their belief from their actions.

He says it's a moral thing to do to kill them. And now, lest you think that I'm taking him out of context, if you read that book and you read the later editions where he puts an addendum to it and he ends up clarifying that point and emphasizing it even more.

He argues in the additional ending where he argues because he was asked that question. And he argues, yes, it is morally right to kill people who can't separate their beliefs from their actions. We should kill them before they kill us.

You know what the problem is with that, Sam Harris? Once you start trying to follow that practice, that belief, you then can't separate your belief from your action. Everybody acts based on their belief.

The problem is when you remove God and you remove morality, then we now have this where people cannot say something is evil. They can't explain that something is wrong. And then that action, they want to say Islam is really bad.

This is worse. At least Islam understands right from wrong.

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Like we evolved to have hope. You know, like we've always got to hope for a better future. So who made us evolve? That's the question I can't answer. I don't know. Is it evolution or God or God? In my opinion, I'm a Christian atheist.

I believe in the teachings of the Bible. Christian atheists.

Yeah, Gary tells the best story. So, you believe? Well, we've heard that.

Yeah, we've actually heard that before.

Yeah, the atheists on Discord, they say stuff like that.

They'll say like, yeah, I'm a Christian atheist.

How is that possible? How is that? Yeah. I mean, so words have no meaning. That's, I mean, that's the whole thing. They redefined everything.

Yeah. The scientific impossibility that nothing created everything. That's insane. That could be insane. That could be insane. He admits it. There's nothing. God was there in the beginning. I love what you're saying.

God was there in the beginning. God knows. You think they feared God in those days? America was called a God-fearing nation in those days.

Well, I mean, there was more. I would think there was more Christians back then than now, you know, in some ways. Believe in God's existence?

I like what you said there. There were more Christians back then than now. Like, back when before Christ? Just saying. How could you have Christians before Christ? See, critical thinking is not under their strong suit, is it?

That there's something, but I mean. Because you can't teach critical thinking and evolution. I'm still kind of like on my own journey about that kind of thing. They're mutually exclusive. You know, I can't really answer that question.

Think about your own death? Oh, yeah. I think everyone does. You can't even define evil, let alone make a judgment that God sees everything that we do that's wrong as evil. There are degrees of evil, but lying is evil to God.

It's an abomination, the Bible says. So is stealing. So what I'm trying to say is that we're as a nation.

You see how Ray uses the law. Rudder. But notice the transition that he did there.

We're scared to call anything evil, I don't know why.

He's talking about that which is evil with each one of these kids. And going from looking at America's values, looking at the issue of evil, and from there getting into the law of God, getting into discussing what is right and wrong.

And where do we know that from? This is the thing that's great when you end up looking at what Ray does. Ray is a master at this, at those transitions of just very smoothly, very casually, conversation after conversation, going from one issue right into the gospel over and over.

Now, this actually encourages me. Ray is sharing the gospel here at Huntington Beach in the rain. And it's encouraging to me because when I was out at California, Ray actually was, we were getting really bad weather.

Ray was thinking of not going out because he told Scotty, hey, it's really bad weather, let's not go. And then the weather broke and it came out nice. And Ray felt bad that he said, you know, not that maybe we shouldn't go.

And I called him up and said, hey, let's go. And he was like, great. So, I'm encouraged. The weather doesn't stop him, you know. Yeah, you don't want to end up in hell.

I'd rather go to up there. Yeah, well, it does concern you.

And notice how many people even are hunting the beach. How many people are sitting there in the rain with umbrellas, hearing a guy preach the gospel.

Suffered and died on the cross, took the punishment. His last words on the cross were, it is finished. In other words, the debt has been paid. You and I broke God's law, the Ten Commandments, and Jesus paid the fine.