Satan Cast Out： A Woman, A Child, A Dragon — Shane Idleman

Satan, the Woman, the Child, and the Dragon in Revelation 12

The title this morning, Satan. Satan is cast out, a woman, a child, and a dragon. Revelation 12. Now a great sign appeared in heaven. So remember, it's John receiving this revelation. That's where the book comes from.

Revelation. The revelations of Jesus Christ. Jesus is giving John these revelations and John is writing them down. And so he saw a great sign appear in heaven. A woman clothed with the sun. So there's this woman wearing the sun and the moon were under her feet.

And on her head, a garland of 12 stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and was in pain to give birth. So remember what I mentioned about revelation. To really understand revelation, you have to have a good understanding of the Old Testament.

Because it references the Old Testament so many different times. And this is one of those times, in Genesis we see where Joseph had that dream as well, representing almost the same things here. So some people say this appearance, this woman, who is this woman that is clothed with the sun?

Some say it's the church. I wanted to let you know that. I like to show different views, especially in areas where we're not exactly crystal clear on who this is. Because the Bible doesn't say, oh, by the way, this represents such and such.

You have to go to the Old Testament. You have to look at the language of what is John linguistically, what do these Greek words mean? Active verb tense, passive verb tense, historical context, what is the writer?

So when it gets into sermon prep or even commentaries, it's not easy. Because trying to relay what they actually meant 2 ,000 years ago can be challenging. Others, and this is who I would agree with, others say that this represents Israel.

And I'm going to reference gotquestions .org quite a bit. All right? I don't want to take credit for this. And when I research things, and they say exactly what I want to say, I just copy and paste it.

Like this explains it better than I was going to explain it. They said, note the similarities between this description and the description that Joseph gave of his father Jacob, Israel, and his mother, their children.

Genesis 37 talks about that. The 12 stars refer to the 12 tribes of Israel. So the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel. And of course, I think that makes even a little bit more sense when you read the last sentence that she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

This sounds like a pretty important child for them to mention in the Bible. And Israel is often described as a woman in labor throughout the prophets. Israel, the nation of Israel is, the prophets would give that imagery a lot.

I didn't jot them down. That took some time, and I don't know how much time to have on this. But I remember one of the prophets talking about, and again, a lot of these things just come to me, and I think it's important, but he said that you're about ready to give birth, but you couldn't.

You're about ready to bring these things to fruition, and you couldn't. Or they would say when Zion travails, sons and daughters are born. So often you would see Israel as this mother, this woman giving birth to this nation.

And she is in great pain, great labor. Can anyone relate who is a female? No, men cannot have babies. You might be able to hook up a machine where you feel a contraction, but it's not the same thing. And we are losing our mind in this country.

It's unbelievable. It's only satanic deception in my opinion. And she's in great pain, and I want to remind you this morning that purpose often comes with pain. Calling with conflict and blessing with affliction.

Isn't that true? God's purpose in your life, it's not going to be absent of pain. Calling does not come without conflict, and blessing does not come without affliction often. Because it makes for a soft Christian, and God builds his men and women in the furnace of affliction.

And God doesn't show us these challenges. I mean, you can ask most pastors or most people involved in Christian ministry, you know, if they knew what was ahead, they'd say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'll see you later. I'm going to jump in. Swim away. Get out of here. But to fulfill God's purpose, there is pain. Because it's hard to birth a dream that God gives you. Because that dream is challenged by the enemy.

It's challenged by your family. Negative Nellies and judgmental Jerrys want to stop you. It's just, it is hard to bring forth God's purpose. And calling, your calling has conflict with it, does it not?

Satan is wanting to stop you, and so we see she cried out in labor, but God's purposes, His plans would prevail. And then 12, three and four, verses three and four, and another sign appeared. So He's giving signs.

There's a woman there clothed with the sun and different things. Then another sign appears in heaven. Behold, this sign now is a great fiery red dragon having seven heads and 10 horns and seven diadems on his head.

Of course, many would agree that the dragon is Satan. But I want to think here for a minute. Also, we keep seeing throughout Revelation, another sign was given, another sign was given. And even we're celebrating Christmas, a sign was given in the stars.

This will be a sign. You'll go and you'll see the baby that is born and they're in the manger. And there's a sign and the preaching of the gospel, signs and wonders followed. God often gives people signs.

Signs, Guidance, and the Danger of Presumption

Signs, I believe, have five main purposes. But let me caution you, you have to be careful. This is tricky because on one hand, you want to let people know we have the Word of God. You follow the principles.

That's all we need for godliness and living. Here's the principles laid out. But on the other hand, you know that sometimes you get a sign. Anybody can relate? Any signs out there? A few people? I think you're just not being honest, but that's okay.

And I don't mean a weird sign, but like, God, confirm this. Confirm this if you're doing this in my life. And there's something that sometimes there's things that are just, and I think God in His goodness, He knows when we're genuinely seeking Him, when we're genuinely asking, Lord, I need to know if this is You, because I can't step out and just do this.

I don't know if it's me. I trust You. I don't trust me. Lord, I need to know if this is You. Show me. Just give me something. Because there's also a fine line between faith and presumption. Anybody ever messed up because they presumed certain things?

But there are five main purposes if God gives you a sign. Number one, you'll see that it's to wake us up or to wake someone up. There's a sign that I've got to get back to church. I've got to get back to God.

I've got to repent and turn my life back over to Him. The prodigal son, that car accident, or that near-death experience, or somebody does something and you realize, or your child is almost hit by a car, or something, there's something that wakes you up.

God, if you're really there, if you're really there, there's been atheists who would scream out at God and He would give them a confirmation. That's one of the reasons. And again, because I'm not teaching on signs today, I didn't want to give all the references and spend a lot of time here, but you need to know that it's to wake us up sometimes or it's to direct us.

And I think it's okay to wait and say, Lord, I don't know if this is You. You know, it's good to encourage young couples to put that marriage on the altar until you say, I do. You don't always know. How many people have got, yeah, this seems great, it feels great, and they're like, uh-oh, that was, what do you got, a couple months?

I better cancel this thing now. And so, Lord, I don't know what to do. I do not know what to do. Direct us. I've got so many stories, I don't want to tell them because I've already told them before. I want some new stuff in 2024, right?

Some new signs. Lord, show us. But He will use that sign to direct you. But again, you have to be careful because not just any happenstance. You know, we sometimes get silly about it. All right, Lord, if that light turns green and I don't have to stop, I know You want me to, mm, that's kind of, we don't want to play games either.

So I think, in my opinion, it's not all the time. Okay, I need to sign Monday, and then Wednesday I need to sign, Friday I need to sign, and direction, I need confirmation all the time. That can become unhealthy.

You know, sometimes you might be like Abraham, or Abram was his name when God called him. He said, go to a land that I will show you. Okay, any direction, north, south, east, or west, you'll know when you get there.

And I've thought about that a lot. I wouldn't even, like, okay, because when you pack up and you're just walking with camels, you've got to kind of have an idea of what direction you're going. I mean, you could go completely the wrong direction.

So, possibly, I mean, we don't know, but it could be that, you know, they got up and they just, okay, this makes sense, let's head out this direction. But we know that when you commit your works to the Lord, your thoughts will actually be established.

And I do believe if the enemy can plant thoughts, so can the Lord. Commit your works to the Lord, and your thoughts, your thinking will be established as you meditate. And the more you meditate on God's Word, the more you worship and pray, the more your thoughts become more like how He wants you to think.

It's easy not to snap at someone or make the wrong decision or make a foolish decision or quick temper or quick reaction because you've been saturating your mind and heart with the things of God. He will also give you a sign, often to confirm His will or His Word.

I mean, not the sense that His Word means confirming, the Word stands forever, it's inerrant, but sometimes to confirm His will. Okay, Lord, we're doing this, I hope you're in this. I hope you're going to give me some direction on this, to confirm what direction He wants you to go.

And I don't want to get into all the different ways. I mean, it could be, you know, I've had people tell me, Lord, show me, hey, this job opportunity is before me. And Lord, I need to make a decision Friday.

I don't, how do I know if this is Your will? I have no clue, Lord, I need to know by Friday. I'm going to wait, here comes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I got to make a decision. And then you get an email from a different place that you've been really praying about and really would like to work.

That might be a good confirmation. And so that's how He'll confirm or even direct you a little bit different. Lord, how many of you have done this? Is this Your will if I buy something? And it's not there when you go to buy it.

You want to wait, Lord, show me, I don't want to step out, I don't know if this is You. You know this house that we're going to purchase, if this is going to be a great spot for us long-term. We don't want, Lord, You know, and we just have to trust You.

God, please confirm Your will. And you step out, and many of you know, I started in real estate in 2009, just for a few years to launch this church. But so many people, you know, it's okay. You know, and they put it in, the offer in.

Back then, the prices were like way less than now. Nice home in Palmdale, Rancho Vista was 220 ,000. And, okay, this is Your will, and then the bank would come back and increase their offer by 50 ,000.

Like that might be a good confirmation that not to go that direction. You know, and so you just, but then we tried to play games with God, right? Well, if we squeeze this in, and that's between you and God.

That's why there's no, you know, one-size-fits-all approach. Because that could happen, and somebody could still end up getting that home. Not because of that. But, you know, praying, Lord, confirm Your will.

If I want to purchase this, but I don't want to overspend. I don't know what the future holds. And then number four, to prepare us. That's what He's doing a lot in Revelation. To prepare us. You have a sign, or somehow a confirmation to prepare you.

There's one thing that I want to mention that I had before, but I had this very vivid dream. And a lot of times, we could talk about dreams, and I don't get out there, because, you know, that's a whole other interesting topic.

But what's interesting is God uses dreams a lot in the Bible. Or Peter had a vision. Joseph was warned how many times? You know, flee from this area. Go to Egypt. Now leave Egypt. Don't go to that area, Bethlehem.

No, don't go there. Now go to here. And the wise men were, and so God will sometimes do that. And I had a very vivid one of His, I still remember, a black leopard. You know, kind of just coming at me, and I'd shine this light right in His face.

And there He is over there. It's like, why is it so vivid? Why is it that it felt like it had spiritual meaning to it? I think that next day, or maybe two days later, I set up an appointment. I don't know why I did this, because I thought it'd be fun.

It wasn't fun. But to have a Jehovah Witness come back with one of His top guns. And we sat in our living room for two hours. It was painful. Painful. The brainwashing is unbelievable. He said, well, here's what the Bible, well, no, no, no, we gotta pull out the watchtower.

Well, you gotta have one source of authority. Hey, let's pray in Jesus' name. No, we don't pray in Jesus' name. I mean, it's just so much stuff. But then when He left, I was so frustrated. And then I remember, He's all dressed in black.

And that just came to me. I didn't think it, it just came to me. And it's shining a light and getting around it. And I was like, just confirmation. Oh, I kind of feel a little bit better. Okay, He wasn't gonna be open.

He wasn't gonna be receptive. Now you could say, well, that's just coincidence. Okay, I don't know, it helped me out. And God still uses dreams to confirm His will. Reading, and to prepare us for things.

Reading Billy Graham's biographies. He would use to, and a lot of us have. I've had these early on, not in a long time. But where do you have dreams? And you're just, you're walking out and you're preaching to like a sea of people.

Like, what was that all about? I don't want to speak to anybody. I'm scared of public speaking. But He'll begin to show you things what might come in the future. To prepare, to confirm. God cares for us enough to, He knows where we're at.

And He knows that we're fallible, we're weak. I need to hear from God. I don't know about you, but I don't really rush ahead. I don't, I mean, it's taken seven years for tears. To build faith also, to build faith.

He shows us a sign to build faith often. He'll show you something. Oh Lord, thank you. It reinforces what we believe, and it's a very good thing. So there was a sign in heaven. And you can look at these five things to see how God might use a sign to warn you, to encourage you, to wake you up, or to direct you.

But you don't, let me just close with this. You don't just follow every whim. Or every little, you know, sometimes ask for a few signs, amen? Okay Lord, all right, I got it. But like Gideon, I can relate to Gideon.

Remember Gideon? All right Lord, if everything is wet, but the other side of this mat is dry, I know it's you wanting me to go forward. That's why they call it throwing out a fleece in the Christian community.

And then he woke up. Can you imagine? Everything is due. And for that to be dry underneath is actually impossible. Those of you who work outside or you know. And he goes, okay, okay. Well, one more chance here.

And he flipped it over, right? Now if it's wet and everything else is dry, then I'll know it's you. And it was. But he's still a little, a little worried. And they go sneak into the camp. And one of those enemies has a dream that this big sourdough, freshly made with butter on it, thing rolls into the camp of the enemy.

You just bought some sourdough today, Roger. I know you. And so it rolls into the camp. And the enemy says, ah, this is nothing but the sword of Gideon. And he confirmed it again. Now Gideon said, surely this is God.

Finally, it only took three times. And I think God knows our frailty. And actually to me, it's not really being disobedient. It's being cautious. Like, Lord, I know. Okay, that's a good confirmation. And again, I can tell you about the radio station, how he purchased that.

It took about three different confirmations that were totally not even, you couldn't make this stuff up if you wanted to. So just take it to prayer. Move cautiously. God will show you. So, but the sign, there was a great fiery dragon, which obviously it looks like Satan.

And his tail, his tail, what did it do? It drew a third of the stars of heaven. And it threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth. And he was going to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Herod, the Child, and Satan’s Desire to Devour

And of course, this sounds like what Herod tried to do. As soon as Jesus was born, the wise men came and they said, where is this king who is born? And Herod said, well, when you find him, come back and tell me.

Because he wanted to kill that child. Be careful who you tell your dream to. There's a lot of dream killers. And I wish it wasn't true, but not everyone is happy for you when you're doing good. And there's a lot of lessons.

Mary pondered it in her heart. Nehemiah pondered it in his heart. David pondered things in his heart. The prophets would ponder things in their heart. And so Herod, when the wise men never came back, he set out to kill all the babies two and under to make sure they got rid of Jesus.

How did God remove Joseph and Jesus from that area? By a dream. And so there are YouTube videos and different things that actually mock. Oh, dreams aren't for today. Are you sure? Golly, I hate when people say God's not doing that anymore.

Are you sure He's not doing that anymore? Did He tell you? Because He hasn't told me. His Word is still kind of clear that He's doing things. I mean, think about it. God uses these things to direct His people.

Well, but now we have the Word in chain. Yeah, but the Word doesn't tell me who to marry. It doesn't tell me where to work. It doesn't tell me to buy radio stations. It gives me principles to follow. But I need a little help from the Holy Spirit to guide.

That's New Testament. That's New Testament theology. Well, what do you mean? Well, Paul was led by the Spirit, not the Septuagint. He was led. The Holy Spirit forbade them. Forbid them from going. The Holy Spirit did this.

There's so many things we're for open, we're allowing God to move us around. His Word is my stability. His Word is my anchor. I don't do anything without those principles. It's life, but we don't worship the Father, the Son, and the Holy Word.

The Word points us to Jesus. And God uses things to lead us. And I think it catches a lot of flack, dreams and things, because people can get really weird with it. You're not supposed to be weird. Solid.

Solid. Cautious, but careful. Open, but cautious and careful. And so, this picture of a third of the stars of heaven came in the vision, and the child, Satan was wanting to devour this child. And Satan's goal, you need to know this, is always to devour.

In case you're wondering this morning, in case you're wondering this morning, what his goal is, it is to devour. 1 Peter 5, 8 -9, be sober, be vigilant. Men, this is a call to you as well. Of course, sobriety, meaning withdrawing, drunkenness, of course, but also, it doesn't just mean that.

Sober means to be ready, be a watchman, be alert, know what's going on. Not the lazy man stuck in his man cave for five hours with no clue what's going on, in his family or around him or anything. Be sober.

Wake up to the things that are really important. Be vigilant. What does that mean? Vigilant, not giving up, fighting, moving forward despite setbacks, no matter come hell or high water, I am going to move forward.

I'm going to seek God. I'm going to guard my family. I'm going to pray for things even when it doesn't look like there are going to be good results. So you're sober in the things of God. You're vigilant.

So in other words, you discern what's going on and you're fighting spiritual battles and you have to do this because you're at war. The adversary, not your friend, the devil walks about as a roaring lion.

Do you know often lions, you picture, they don't roar right before they go after their prey. That would kind of give them a signal. The roar is an intimidation. This is my ground. This is my land here in Africa.

Don't you come near me. It's a sign of intimidation. So it's kind of ironic that the devil walks around intimidating and discouraging. He can't touch you if God has you. I'll never forget one of that.

You should read that book, Pilgrim's Progress. I think there was a movie out too, but his name is Christian. And he's walking down this path and there's two lions trying to get him, but they're chained.

They can't touch him. Unless he falls one side or the other. Or he sees them, he becomes discouraged and he goes back to where he was. So you have to understand about Satan. He's not equal. He's not all powerful.

He's not all knowing. He doesn't like me saying what I'm telling you right now. That's for sure. He roars. He intimidates. He tries to discourage you. And I think a discouraged Christian, a discouraged Christian is causing more problems than anything else.

It's quenching and grieving the spirit. Think about if we're discouraged, look at all areas of service. If the worship team is discouraged, it's like, hey, I'm going to take this month off. I don't even want to be there.

Can you imagine? Sound and media, I'm getting discouraged. I'm calling in sick. Other aspects of media, I'm discouraged. I'm frustrated. And now we have ushers calling in. Nobody's coming in. I don't want to be there.

Discouragement, discouragement. Witness to that person. No, I'm discouraged. I see it all the time. And in my own life as well. You don't want to do much for God when you're discouraged, do you? Come on, we've all been there.

We get pumped up. January 1st is coming. New Year's resolutions. We know, man, I'm motivated. I'm going to do this. I can't wait. I'm going to talk to some of you on January 7th and see how you're doing.

Do you know you'll be very discouraged if you don't set realistic goals and understand that the enemy is trying to discourage you? That's what he does. He roars. He intimidates. I talked to a gentleman recently who finally took my advice and stopped watching the news all the time.

He goes, I feel so much better. The joy's returned. There's a smile back. Goodness gracious. I'm not so discouraged. Boy, it can get you, can't it? The White House having their Christmas party with all those transgenders, fluid, dancing down the middle of the White House.

My Lord, have mercy on us, God. And the video they're filming in the Senate Hall where the guy got removed and it's like, this is sexual perversion as a very deep and deviant and demonic level. And if you're not careful, you get very discouraged.

And that's what he does. He devours. Look at what I'm doing. Look at what I'm doing, he says. He discourages you. There's nothing you can do, Christian. And I get discouraged because people post that on social media.

I get thousands of comments a month on all different. It's like, oh, you think you're really going to make a difference? America's going to hell in a handbasket. We're supposed to just wait for the rapture.

Well, what verse? Can you tell me what chapter and verse that says to just go and wait for the rapture? What chapter and verse, please? Well, no, I mean, you gotta, you know, it's pointless. The pointless, the enemy's coming in and God's gonna do, that's not the Bible I read.

Tells me to do business until he returns. Tells me to expose the unfruitful works of darkness. I'm called to expose the unfruitful works of darkness. I'm called and you're called to motivate the next generation.

Can you imagine all the teenagers and young adults looking at us going, well, what about me? Well, too bad, honey. I'm out of here in 20 years. You can deal with this. Leave them the, well, no, we're supposed to be big boys, put on our big boy pants, get up and fight this battle, spiritually speaking, make a difference.

How do we know God's not gonna bring revival? You think God is concerned? God is scared? The enemy's roaring and God is backing away? Absolutely not. That's why he says, put on the whole armor of God and withstand the wiles of the devil.

Having done all, just stand there with their loins girt about with truth. That's all God says, just stand there, hold the line. Don't fall back, don't get discouraged. I might preach a little this morning.

I might change direction because you need to encourage yourself in the Lord. Yes, it's okay to stand up, Raquel, praise God. But right, we gotta encourage ourself and leave here ready. Okay, Lord, he might've been growling this week.

He might've been puffing his chest and roaring this week, but I'm gonna take him out. That enemy is no threat to me greater is God that is in within me than he that's in the world. I'm just telling you, discouragement is the biggest weapon he has, right?

If I'm discouraged, I'm not coming for a while. Abram, you got it, I'm done. I'm not gonna witness to people. I'm not gonna help people. I'm not gonna talk to people. I don't wanna do anything because I'm discouraged.

There goes our witness. There goes our spiritual power. There goes the Holy Spirit working in our hearts. How do you know you don't see someone walking on Trader Joe's and God puts on your heart to pray for them that they're delivered and they begin weeping and breaking down and you go somewhere else and you see you're full of the Spirit of God.

Now you're doing the things of God. Most of us are not full of the Spirit of God. That's why we go through our daily life like a robot. Went to church. I'll see you next week. Is that how robots walk?

When I was younger, I could do the robot, everyone. Remember that dance? No, I don't think I could. I'm not even gonna attempt it. I mentioned ice, ice, baby, vanilla ice last week. I'm not gonna go there this week.

I'm praying for that guy. I'm praying for him and all these guys that I grew up with in Hollywood. I didn't know them, but I'm just praying for them, but that's a side trail. But isn't that true discouragement?

He comes about roaring and he wants to devour, but what are you supposed to do? Resist him. You have to see this. Resist him. That word steadfast, steadfast. In other words, hold fast. If I had something, it's like, here comes the hurricane and I'm holding tight.

I'm steadfast. I'm holding tight. So resist him. Here he comes. I'm holding tight. I'm steadfast. It doesn't mean there's no hurricane or earthquake, but you hold on to Christ. You resist him. You hold to that faith, knowing that the same sufferings, meaning when you go through that difficulty, they are experienced by brothers all over the world.

We all go through the same things, but unfortunately in America, we know nothing of suffering. And then we see Satan cast out. We're going to talk about that here briefly because his tail threw, I'm sorry, drew a third of the stars and he threw these stars to the earth and the dragon stood before the woman and was ready to give birth and to devour her child.

Satan’s Fall, the Dragon, and the Meaning of the Stars

So a lot of people think, and it does get confusing because the Bible isn't always written in chronological order. I wish it was. There's a Bible, it's called the Chronological Bible. You can read that, but then it's like, well, who put this together, right?

They do some things that I don't quite agree with, but it's a good Bible. But some people say this is when Satan was cast out of heaven and he drew one third of the angels with him. Let's talk about that for a minute.

God declared everything to be good, very good after creation. After that, it appears that Satan was cast out of heaven when he rebelled against God. Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

So again, there are different views on your interpretation of Revelation and I mean, there's views on even Satan. You know, did he really fall and he was created really good and then he fell and became this or did God create him to be evil?

You know, and people teach that. And all we do is we can just stick with Scripture. And then Isaiah 14 is another passage that may describe the fall of Satan. It opens with judgment being pronounced against a human king and the nation of Babylon.

But then it goes on to suggest that it may also refer to Satan. And read Isaiah 14 at your convenience. I will just tell you that it's been, this has been a struggle for me for about 20 years on where everybody says, oh, this is definitely about Satan.

I'm like, I don't know, maybe, because there's some language in here that's definitely not for a king, a earthly king. But if you read the beginning, like Isaiah 14 around verse 12, it's definitely talking about an earthly king.

For sure, there's no way around it. You can look at the language, but then he goes on to say, he talks about the whole earth and the king fell from heaven and the king's desire was to exalt himself above all the stars.

And the symbolic name Lucifer or Lightbringer was also used. So it's an interesting passage. I just leave it at that. Definitely talking about a human king because he's pronouncing judgments in Isaiah 14, I believe, on different kingdoms.

And he gets to the king of Babylon and he pronounces a judgment on that king. But then it goes into some very interesting language that would not pertain to an earthly king. So that's why a lot of people think Isaiah 14 is talking about a judgment against Satan as well.

So again, got questions. The book of Revelation describes a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. Remember we read that a few, I think a month or two back. So there's a star that falls from the sky to the earth.

This star is given a key to the bottomless pit and proceeds to release a horde of tormenting locusts. So while Revelation 9 .1 is not clearly a reference, I mean, it's not clear referencing, it's not a clear reference to Satan, it could be, especially since he uses the key to unleash terror upon the earth.

So here's what you need to know. Just this one third of heaven could be Satan being cast down and taking one third of the angels with him. That's where we come up with this concept. Without that verse, there's really no...

And then are these angels now demons? And is that how the demonic realm was born? You know, so that's what that's about. John says that the dragon was hurled down to earth and he identifies it as the ancient serpent called the devil.

We're gonna read that here in a couple more verses. So John calls him the devil or Satan who leads the whole world astray. So let me bring this home. If the stars are symbolic references to Satan's angels, then we do have a reference to the fall of a portion of the angels.

So when you hear one third of the angels fell, Satan fell, these are all the verses they use to come up with that, to conclude that. But two thirds of the angels remain loyal to God if that indeed was the case.

And these are holy angels. And then one third of the angels who joined Satan, again, if that's the case, the reason I say that is we don't know for certain. There's no way I could come up here and say, oh, this is exactly what this means.

This is exactly how this played out. I mean, we just don't know. And they are called unclean spirits or demons today. And I had to share this Ravenhill quote with you. If you have the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and two thirds of the angels on your side, there's nothing to fear.

There's absolutely nothing to fear. We get worked up when the enemy roars. His loud roar and discourages us. And then we go to verse five. So Israel is what we think this is. She bore a male child. I even think Roman Catholicism might teach that this is Mary and tied in with their theology on the ascension of Mary, if I'm not mistaken there.

So she bore a male child. And if this was Mary, this has a lot of problems trying to make this Mary. So she bore a male child who was to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. That sounds familiar. If you haven't read the Bible, it's coming up in Revelation 19.

In Revelation 19, we're gonna get there in the months to come, the lamb becomes the lion and the servant becomes the king. He rules the nations with the rod of iron. So this is definitely talking about Jesus here because John says he has that vision and we're heaven opened up.

Couldn't you imagine this? Heaven opens up and you see Jesus coming, riding horses with the armies of God following after him. And his eyes are like flames of fire and on his head are many crowns. And out of his mouth goes a sword that he will strike the nations.

He will rule the nations with a rod of iron and he will tread the wine press of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. So this cracks me up when these people, like you hear Ben Shapiro dismiss Jesus.