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Now, before we read from the scriptures, I do want to take this opportunity to say, not as a matter of form, but very sincerely, thank you to the believers here in Mount Sterling for their invitation and their hospitality and their welcome.
I hope you won't think me presumptuous if I speak on behalf of all the visitors when we say that we've been very well looked after. We've been fed with food convenient for us and maybe some that was a little bit inconvenient too, but it has really been a joy to be here and a great joy to share with my brethren in these readings.
And very encouraging to see such a large number of young people here. And we don't want to pick on you and we don't want to certainly don't want to patronize you, but I hope that what we've been thinking about this weekend is something that you will take away and develop for yourselves.
We've only been able to sort of sketch the outlines of this great subject, but it is a great subject. And Bible study in some ways is a little bit like doing a jigsaw puzzle. And we take the different pieces and we put it together so that we can see the picture and understand the picture that God has for us.
Now, I don't really like doing jigsaw puzzles, but I do know that if you're doing a jigsaw puzzle, a good strategy is to start with the frame. And if you can get the frame fitted in, well, the other elements of the picture will make sense.
And what we've been thinking about this weekend, this great subject of the kingdom that's taken us all the way from the very beginning of the Bible will take us this afternoon to the very end of the Bible.
It's kind of like the frame of scripture. And if you can get that clear in your mind, you'll find it an enormous assistance to understanding your Bible as a whole and to understanding how the different parts fit together.
Along with that, we've said much in the previous Bible readings about the subject of the covenants. They interrelate as we've seen very closely with the kingdom program. And I say again to younger brethren and sisters, it's well worth putting in the time just to get a grasp of the significance of the covenants that God has made with mankind.
And then, and we didn't have as much time as maybe we would have liked to talk about this, God's great dispensational program, which unfolds through the ages. These are big framework elements and you get those framework elements in place and you will reap the rewards of that for the rest of your life.
And I know I speak for these brethren here, far older some of them than I am, when I say to younger believers, you will never regret the minutes that you spend studying the word of God. And you will never, I know you think you are busy now, but you'll never have more time and you'll never have better abilities for studying the word of God than you will now.
So I trust that this weekend will have been a help and a blessing to you, for we badly need younger brethren and sisters who are reading, who are studying and who are living out the truth of God's word.
So with that as a preamble, let's turn to the scriptures. Now, we've all been very anxious this weekend to tell you all what a difficult job we have. In fact, you nearly wonder why we bothered agreeing to take the Bible readings because we seem to have found it so burdensome.
So I'm not going to go over, I'm not going to go over all the ground that our brethren have covered. I do have a special problem though. And that's this, that where do you start to read? And where do you finish reading in the great subject of the millennium?
That's been very interesting and it kind of seemed to happen more frequently as we made our way through the three readings yesterday that again and again, brethren were saying, oh, Mark will be dealing with that in his reading.
And while that puts the pressure on a bit, it's important to notice that this is a coherent picture and we're drawing together this afternoon. I trust we will draw together strands that we've been looking at right from the beginning of these Bible readings.
But it does leave us with a little problem as to where to read. I mean, we could spend the rest of the time and maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea, just reading the scriptures relating to the future kingdom.
So I'm being very selective and the brethren will want to speak about other scriptures as we make our way through and that's absolutely fine. But I want to begin first of all, as the handout suggests, by reading just briefly in the epistle to the Ephesians.
Ephesians and chapter one. And we're not gonna say much about the context here really, but we do want to get the expression that we find here in verse number 10, but we'll read from verse seven. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace, wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence, having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he had purposed in himself.
This is the expression we want to think about, that in the dispensation of the fullness of times, he might gather together, he might head up in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven. And which are on earth, even in him.
Over with me please to Revelation and chapter 20. Revelation chapter 20. And we should perhaps read the verses at the end of chapter 19. I'm not going to do that for the sake of time. We will say a little bit about them, but we have this climactic war and verse number 20 of chapter 19, the beast was taken and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and then that worshiped his image.
These both were cast alive into a lake burning with brimstone and the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil and Satan and bound him a thousand years and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal upon him that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years should be fulfilled.
And after that, he might be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones and they sat upon them and judgment was given unto them. And I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands.
And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years, but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.
On such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And they went up on the breadth of the earth and compass the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.
And I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away and there was found no place for them.". Back to Psalm 72. And we're gonna take the time to read the whole of this.
Beautiful Psalm. It is a Psalm, our authorize says a Psalm for Solomon. Likely that should be a Psalm of Solomon. That's the same word that's used of the Psalms of David. So a Psalm of Solomon. We've been thinking about him already this weekend.
"'Give the king thy judgment, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son. He shall judge thy people with righteousness and thy poor with judgment. The mountains shall bring peace to the people and the little hills by righteousness.
He shall judge the poor of the people and he shall save the children of the needy and shall break in pieces the oppressor. They shall fear thee as long as the sun and moon endure throughout all generations.
He shall come down like rain upon the moon grass, as showers that water the earth. In his days shall the righteous flourish and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth. He shall have dominion also from sea to sea and from the river onto the ends of the earth.
They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him and his enemy shall lick the dust. The kings of Tarshish and of the Isles shall bring presents. The kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts. Yea, all kings shall fall down before him.
All nations shall serve him for he shall deliver the needy when he crieth. The poor also and him that hath no helper. He shall spare the poor and the needy and shall save the souls of the needy. He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence and precious shall their blood be in his sight and he shall live and to him shall be given of the gold of Sheba.
Prayer also shall be made for him continually and daily shall he be praised. There shall be a handful of corn in the earth. Upon the top of the mountains, the fruit thereof shall shake like Lebanon and they of the city shall flourish like grass of the earth.
His name shall endure forever. His name shall be continued as long as the sun and men shall be blessed in him. All nations shall call him blessed. Blessed be the Lord God. The God of Israel who only doeth wondrous things.
And blessed be his glorious name forever. And let the whole earth be filled with his glory. And we can surely say amen and amen. And even David could think of nothing higher than this. To ask God for to request in prayer, not that he never prayed again, but this was the zenith of David's prayer life.
The prayers of David, the son of Jesse are ended. And one final reading, and I'm sorry that, and I'm not really sorry, but we are having a fairly extensive reading, but I think actually we're being reasonably minimalistic.
1 Corinthians 15, please for a final reading. Now, you will remember that at the beginning of this conference, the beginning of the Bible readings, one of the scriptures that our brother John read was Psalm 8.
And we saw that Psalm 8 takes us back to God's original design, what God intended for man, what God had established in Eden. And he mentioned to us, I think, that that Psalm is quoted on a number of occasions in the New Testament.
And it's quoted in Hebrews 2. We might want to think about that in our discussion. And it's quoted here in 1 Corinthians 15. Now, one of the things that we're going to see this afternoon is that God's first thoughts are his final thoughts.
And what he spoke about Adam in Psalm 8 is here spoken about the Lord Jesus Christ. And we'll read from verse 24. Then come at the end, well, maybe 23. Every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, afterwards they that are Christ's at his coming.
Then, and that really is the idea of after that, come at the end. When he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the father, when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power, for he must reign till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is accepted, which did put all things under him.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the son also himself be subject unto him, that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. And we know that God will bless to us the reading of his precious word.
And we look forward to his help in the opening and in the discussion. I want to keep my opening short because I'm interested to hear the help that our brethren have to offer. And we have a smaller crowd here.
And these older brethren are intimidating figures. I understand that, but I'm just a young fellow. So if you're sitting behind, if you're sitting over here to the sides, we'd like to hear from you. So do feel free to give us help if you can.
I want to start by making a very emphatic statement, a series of emphatic statements. The first thing I want to say is this, that God's word makes it very clear that at any moment, Christ could return for his church.
The savior said, if I go away, I will come again and receive you unto myself. The precondition for his coming again was he's going away. That has taken place. And he could come again this afternoon. And I hope we believe it.
It'd be good if we lived as though we did. After the Lord Jesus Christ has come and taken the saved of this dispensation to be with himself, there follows a period of time, at least seven years, likely a bit longer than that.
But when that period of time has come to a close, we have the events that are recorded for us or that are prophesied for us, I should say, in Revelation chapter 19. And when those events, that judgment of the beast and the false prophet has taken place and Satan has been bound for a thousand years, listen, brethren and sisters, this is something we can be absolutely certain about and confident in.
Jesus Christ is coming back to earth and he's coming to reign, literally, and physically he will reign for a thousand years. As we have seen in these Bible readings, the covenants of God guarantee that.
And the character of God demands it because he has committed himself to this. And the word of God teaches it. And we're all, I think, pretty sure that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. It is just as sure, Jeremiah will tell us, chapter 31, just as sure that Christ will sit on the throne of his father, David, and that he will reign from the river onto the ends of the earth.
Now, I'm stressing that because there are many Christians who don't believe that. And if you read very widely, there'll be many books on your shelves that don't teach that. And if you are daring enough to venture into the shark-filled waters of the internet, you'll find plenty of teaching that denies the truth of a literal millennial kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ.
That denial does disservice to our God. That denial distorts all of scripture. And I trust that we can just grasp the certainty and the reality of what we're thinking about. When we think about this future kingdom, the certainty of it, it is going to be established.
I'm gonna jump just for a minute to the end of my outline. And I hope we'll have time to get to this in the discussion, but just in case we do not, I want to stress again that what we've been thinking about this weekend, the truth concerning God's kingdom, while it is, I tell you, it's truth that can fitly occupy our minds, it's a fascinating subject.
We fill our minds with so many small and petty things, and many of them are legitimate. And we have to think about the day-to-day things of life. I tell you, it's great to fill your lungs with the breath of scripture and to open up your viewpoint.
And to occupy your mind with the great kingdom program. And I hope that has happened over this weekend. But I hope we have time to see, and I want to emphasize now that this truth that we've been thinking about is intended by God to affect our lives.
And affect our lives in quite a number of ways that I'm not going to go into now. But affect our lives in this, that we are to walk worthy of God who is calling us presently, continuously is calling us to his kingdom and glory.
The fact that we have a part in that coming kingdom places restraints, places requirements on your behavior and mine. The apostle Paul will tell us on a number of occasions about behavior that is not fitting, not in keeping with the kingdom.
And it shouldn't be seen in our lives. The fact that we are bound for that kingdom, the fact that we are in fact going to have a role, we're going to be involved in that kingdom. And in that kingdom reward for service here is going to be seen.
As I was trying to point out to the younger people last night from 2 Timothy chapter four, where Paul charges Timothy to do a difficult task and a solemn task. He says, I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and by his appearing and his kingdom, kingdom truth.
It motivates our sanctification. It motivates our service. And perhaps it will need to motivate to our suffering, the kingdom of God. Paul writes to the Thessalonians, for which ye suffer. And so we do want to see that this kingdom truth, it's not just for our minds, it's for our hearts.
I hope we've been encouraged. We have sung repeatedly, have we not? God is still on the throne. And we thank God that that's true. But it needs to affect our life. It needs to affect our walk. And we'll try to get to that before we get to the end of the Bible reading.
I'm gonna sit down just after I deal with the first point because I do want to work through the points on the handout. We have an enormous amount of material. And as has been the case in the previous Bible readings, we're gonna need to keep a kind of a helicopter view.
We're not really going to have time to dive down into the nitty gritty. And I know the brethren, I was very docile and I think reasonably helpful in the brethren's Bible readings. So I think it would be awfully inappropriate for them to be unkind to me now.
And you would all think very poorly of them if you saw them doing that, I know. So they'll be on their best behavior just like I've been for the past three Bible readings. We need to move through the material.
But just before I sit down, I want to go back to where we started, to this expression in Ephesians chapter one. There were a number, the brethren might want to tell us about them. There were a number of very interesting ways in which what we talk about as the millennium is described.
The millennium just talks about its extent. It's a thousand years. We'll need to think about that. A number of interesting expressions that really deal with its character. I think this one is very precious.
The dispensation of the fullness of times. Now that word fullness they tell us is a word that could be used, for example, in relation to a ship. Here's a ship and they're preparing to sail. And all the cargoes on board, and the hold is full of grain or whatever it might be.
The ship is full, but it hasn't received its fullness. And you would know that before that ship would sail, the order would be given, all hands to stations. And before it would pull away from the key, everybody would be in the right place.
The captain would be where he's supposed to be. And the man who holds the wheel would be where he's supposed to be. And there's first mates and second mates. And I'm not terribly good on nautical, but everybody would be in the right place.
We noticed in our brother John's Bible reading, we went way back to the Garden of Eden. And we saw that one of the things that is very clear in the account of creation is that our God is a God of order.
And all the way through creation, there is precision, there is order, there's arrangement, division and organization. And we saw that when Adam then is given God-like work to do, it is also a work of organization.
He's to name the animals, he's to dress, and he's to keep. And we saw that implicit built into this concept of kingdom is the idea of order. And we see that so clearly illustrated by its absence when we read through the Book of the Judges.
You move through the first two sections of that book and you get to those awful, awful chapters at the end and everything is disordered. And the writer will tell us on four times, like four great hammer blows just to drive the point home.
There was no king, there was no king, there was no king, there was no king in Israel, and every man did that was right in his own eyes. And you say, what's the root of all this disorder? There's no king, what's the solution?
That's what Judges is doing in the Canon of Scripture in large part. It's setting us up to long for a king so that all this disorder can be corrected. Now, I've described those chapters at the end of Judges as dreadful chapters.
They are dreadful, but I was struck again reading them recently, just how familiar they seem in relation to the day and age in which we live. And I don't have time to develop that. We live in a day of disorder, there's no king.
I hope our hearts throb with, we're longing for the return of Christ. We can almost hear his footfall on the threshold of the door. Our hearts are longing to be with him evermore. Praise God, he's coming for us.
But if our expectation stops short there, we're very short-sighted and we're very selfish. And I don't think we should be able to open a newspaper if we do open a newspaper without praying Maranatha even so come.
Because there's no king. And we live in a world that's marked by spiritual and moral disorder, political disorder. Everything is wrong. The times are out of joint, if you'll allow me a little bit of Shakespeare.
But there's a king coming. And when he comes, his reign will be the dispensation, the administration of the fullness of times. And everybody will be in their right place. Christ preeminent. And Israel, at his side, the church.
Israel, no longer the tale of the nations, but having her correct position at the head of the nations, as we have been reminded on a number of occasions, a priestly nation, mediating God to the nations round about.
And these wicked, evil nations that people of the world, all of them subdued. We read about them, didn't we? In Psalm 70, bringing their tribute into Jerusalem. And even creation. A creation that groans and that travels.
A creation that is subject to vanity because of the effects of sin. Brethren and sisters, it is going to be delivered into the glorious liberty of the sons of God. And all that's wrong is going to be put right in the glorious dispensation of the fullness of times.
We're gonna see that. I'll tell you something, we're going to be intimately involved in it. And how we long for the day when he will reign and one unto him will the gathering of the peoples be. Now I got a little bit carried away there.
I was gonna sit down. The brethren, if you want to come in in this first issue of the character, as I've called it, of the kingdom, maybe some of the other terms that are involved. We'll move. I would like us to be able to spend ample time on the conditions and the climax of the kingdom and say something on the effects of the kingdom.
So we'll have to move reasonably quickly. So Mark, we've had an expression in the book of Galatians, Galatians chapter four, where we read about the fullness of time, singular. Here in Ephesians chapter one, it's the dispensation of the fullness of times, plural.
And you used a very interesting expression there. Instead of using dispensation, you use the idea of administration. Now, isn't it true in a sense, like God could have once we come to the end of the tribulation period, we could have stepped right into the day of God.
God has chosen not to do that. Can you help us why there's gonna be this administration just at that point? Thanks, John. A number of very important reasons. First of all, all those covenants that we've heard about, if we moved from tribulation times into the eternal state, those covenants wouldn't be fulfilled.
So that needs to happen. But the other thing, and as we move through the dispensations, we see that in each dispensation, mankind is tested. That was true back in the Garden of Eden, down through the ages.
There is an ultimate test coming for mankind. Mankind has, even back in the Garden of Eden, when conditions were perfect, Satan was active. And mankind has always blamed the conditions for the failure of mankind and rebellion against God.
God is gonna have a thousand years of perfect rain, perfect felicity. These glorious conditions that we think about, and we're going to discover this. As we read in Revelation 20, Satan has to be released, because there's a final and a climactic test for mankind.
Had you anything further on that? No, no, appreciate. That's exactly what I had in mind. So this will be the final test. At this point, what was the obstacle in the garden will be removed. This is one of the stages of Satan's downfall.
The second stage of Satan's downfall, isn't that right? Satan will have three stages of his downfall. Revelation 12, he'll be cast out of heaven. Revelation 20, he'll be bound for a thousand years. And then we've got the last stage where he'll be cast into the lake of fire.
Very good, thank you.
John mentioned an expression there that will come up again, no doubt, in the reading. And that is the day of God, right? Now, evidently, we live in the day of man. But in between, there is what is called the day of the Lord, which is initiated by the appearing of the man of sin, right, 2 Thessalonians chapter two.
So all the way through to the coming of the day of God, we have the day of the Lord inserted. So the tribulation period is included in the day of the Lord, right? But the majority of that period is the millennium.
So it's the intervention of the Lord on planet Earth that is in view. First of all, removing from his kingdom all things that offend, if you will, the tribulation period, all right, culminating in his manifestation at that point.
But he continues to intervene on planet Earth all the way through the thousand years, establishing his lordship on an ongoing basis until the final rebellion is put down and he hands everything back to God intact.
Now, as you know, Brother Mark, there is sometimes a difference of opinion in the thought of the fullness of times that he might gather together in one all things in Christ. Is it that thousand year period where the Lord holds sway in his rule, even though there will still be sin occasionally?
And where that occurs, it'll be put down by his lordship. And then there will be a final rebellion. So another view is that this is not actually complete until he hands the kingdom intact after all rebellion is put down back to God.
Yeah, I, well, William and I were listening to it, to a brother taking that view in a recording in the past day or two. I said, I'm glad he won't be in the Bible reading, but William has done his best to channel that.
The thing that would persuade me that it's the millennium that's in view here is the use of the word dispensation, this administration word. I think by the time we get into the day of God, we're not in dispensations anymore.
There's no longer any testing. That dispensational program has been brought to an end. But the administration of the Lord.
Will continue through until then.
Yes, yes, yes. So just allied with that, Brother Mark, is the fact that it's the dispensations of the fullness of times when he will head up all things in Christ. Isn't it true that you read 1 Corinthians 15, that the thing that separates the millennial kingdom, the day of the Lord from the day of God is that God will be all in all in the day of God.
The focus will not be Christ. It will be the triune God. That's right. And we'll need to think about that when we get to 1 Corinthians 15. So the next point that I want to think about, and this maybe we don't need to spend too long on because it will come out through the Bible reading.
But this is another of the terms that are used of the kingdom. The Lord in Matthew chapter 19 speaks about it as the regeneration. And I think that just emphasizes for us the radical difference that there will be between conditions in the millennium and conditions that exist now.
Now, again, we don't want to... We haven't time to sort of engage in polemic all the way through. But there are believers, some of them my friends who tell us that we're already in the kingdom. The kingdom has been inaugurated.
They will tell us if we come to the next point, in the kingdom that the devil has been bound, that that has already happened. Well, that idea drastically short changes what the Bible tells us about the kingdom.
You have to massively water down. And there are many difficulties with exegetical difficulties with amillennialism. But actually, again, I think the biggest difficulty with amillennialism comes from the pages of the newspaper because it sure doesn't look like Satan is bound.
So maybe take those together, the contrast of the kingdom and controlling the kingdom. This is vitally important to the character of this reign. Satan is removed. He's taken out of circulation. He's bound, he's cast into the bottomless pit.
And this is one of the things that makes the millennial period different from any of the ages that have gone before.
So the word you used, amillennialism, that's the theology that has removed the millennium from the future, right? That's correct, yes. So those people believe that there's no future for Israel, right, those people also would believe that the kingdom is currently here in a spiritual form?
Yes. Is that correct? That's correct. All right, so I'm just looking for identifying marks of this false theology that we could notice if we were to be reading a book or listening to a speaker. So maybe some more would be good.
I mean, we talked yesterday.
About one of the big hallmarks of this. To make this all work, you have to spiritualize those promises that were given to Israel. And so it's not talking about a literal land and it's not talking about a literal temple in Ezekiel.
And you end up with increasingly imaginative allegorizations. One crucial hallmark, our brother, John, I think said, I can't remember how many Israels we had. I think he said, Israel is Israel is Israel is Israel when we read the Bible.
You try, if you find anyone trying to tell you that Israel refers to anything other than the nation, well, you know you're on dangerous ground. We interpret scripture, this is not, we haven't decided to believe in a millennium and we're therefore we have, we interpret scripture in a consistent literal way.
If you do that, you cannot avoid seeing a future for Israel. You cannot avoid seeing a millennium and you cannot avoid being pre-millennial as well.
Sure, but that view would also change the Christian's attitude toward his role in this current age, right? So that would be an involvement in politics, a movement to try and change the world through the preaching of the, or through political movements rather than just simply preaching the gospel in this age.
That was the problem or part of the problem in Corinth, wasn't it? They'd lost sight of that. And Paul said, already you're rich, already you're reigning. He says, we wish you did reign. He didn't say that you're never going to reign.
He says, we wish you did reign and we would reign with you. But actually this isn't reigning time. We're not sitting up in the seats of the arena. We're down in the sand, you know, facing the animals, facing the mockery of the crowd.
And you're absolutely right. You know, if we don't believe that there's a literal future millennium, we involve ourselves in politics, we involve ourselves in institution building and we de-emphasize the importance of the local assembly.
Whereas if I read my New Testament correctly, in this dispensation, that's the big thing that God has. It's the local assembly gathered to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and testimony connected with that.
And you will find where you have those who take an amillennial view and follow it, as our brother Brody has said, into that sort of involvement in worldly institutions and so on and so forth, it will devalue.
It will devalue the local assembly. And I remember once after a conference in work and there was a gentleman there from the United States and he was a believer and we'd had quite a pleasant conversation.
And he said, we were going out for dinner and they came around and they said, any drinks orders? And I possibly ordered a Coke or something uncivilized like that. And he says, yeah, he says, what vodka do you have?
And he must've seen the expression of consternation on my face. He says, okay, he says, I'm a world affirming amillennialist. That's not what we want to be, brethren and sisters. Can I ask you, Mark, you put this term regeneration from Matthew 19.
Do you see the regeneration? As you know, it's used twice in the New Testament. That's correct. The other references in Titus, Titus chapter two. Do you see the reference to the regeneration here physical or do you see it both physically and spiritually?
And then just bring in the Titus passage for us, please, alongside that. Thanks, brother. And I think it's both physical and spiritual in relation to the Lord says in the regeneration, you will sit on thrones judging the tribes is the context there.
When we come to the Titus passage, we're dealing with the spiritual aspect of regeneration, how we have been regenerated, how we've been brought into a new state as a result of the cleansing action of God's Holy Spirit.
Would you allow me also then, Mark, in regard to that, it anticipates a changed physical state. Very helpful, yes. Yes, so the regeneration that we enjoy presently is a spiritual regeneration anticipating a physical change to come.
This regeneration here is both in the millennial kingdom of the Lord Jesus.
Can I ask a question before you move on from there? What you're saying then, John, is that the actual physical created earth will have a physical change for that time to come. But will our bodies also have a change in the regeneration?
Well, we will have been changed. Correct. And there will be Old Testament saints who will have been raised at the end of the tribulation and they will have resurrection bodies. But there will be people, just as there was in the house in Bethany, there will be people who have not been resurrected and people who have been resurrected and they will both go into the kingdom and we'll think a little bit about just who goes into it.
I just didn't want to conflate physical regeneration if it didn't include both, so thank you.
Okay, ultimately, obviously, we'll be changed at the rapture, right? Peter, preaching in Acts chapter three, spoke about the Lord Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restitution of all things.
Now, is that the same idea? Certainly, I take it it's referring to the same time period, the millennium.
Yes, yes. So that's the idea really of things being put right. Right. And it's referred to as well in the book of the Acts and we will maybe come to this in the context of Psalm 72, the lovely expression, times of refreshing.
Yes. The Latin translation of the Bible uses a word, the word from which we get our word, refrigerator. It's the idea of times of cooling. And, well, we don't know much about it in Ireland. We have a very temperate climate.
Maybe you know a little bit more about it here, but the heat and the aridness, and well, Psalm 72 says those lovely, lovely words. He shall come down like showers. He will come with refreshment. It will be a time of restoration.
It will be a time of regeneration, a time of restitution, and it will be a time of refreshing. And all of these things, I suggest, have both a spiritual and a physical reality connected with them.
So in Acts chapter three, Peter preached to the people of Israel, repent ye therefore, be converted, so that the times of refreshing would come and the Lord Jesus would come and the restitution of all things would take place.
So clearly he did not have revealed to him at that point that there's going to be this 2 ,000 years or so period of the day of grace in between. So his anticipation at that point, I take it, was that if Israel repents now, that will be the trigger that will bring in the golden age, if you will,.
And the millennium. So we're still dealing in those early chapters of the book of Acts. We're still on transitional ground, and those issues of chronology are really still to be sorted out. Yes. So anything more on, really, we've sort of grouped those together, which is fine, the character and the contrast and the control.
Just on the control, we read that Satan is going to be bound 1 ,000 years so that he'll deceive the nations no more. But then a little bit further down the chapter, we read that he does go out to deceive.
So can there be a sense in which the kingdom of God doesn't achieve its fullness until the very end? I know we're looking forward to millennia, millennial kingdom, and that really is the ushering in of the kingdom they were looking for.
But in a sense, is it not just the start of that great eternal kingdom that will run where you have the universal and the terrestrial in perfect harmony for all eternity?
Yes, I think I'd be happier with your second way of phrasing that. I mean, it's kind of stating the obvious to say that God's kingdom program isn't finished until it's finished. But it isn't finished until it's finished, and actually right up to the end of time, as we have in 1 Corinthians 15, there are things to be accomplished right to the end.
So until Satan is finally and fully dealt with, eternally dealt with, and he can no longer be released at the end of a thousand years and no longer deceive, in which case he does draw away people after him, until that point in time, it takes till we can actually say that the kingdom is fully complete.
Yes, and again, just to touch on a point that we've made repeatedly throughout these Bible readings, again, we see God's control in all of this. And we've seen that manifested right through history, but in a very vivid way, it's seen here.
Satan is taken and he is bound, and he's not going to be released until he doesn't break out of prison. God is going to release him, and he must be released. There's a program that God is working here, and he's totally in control of every detail and every aspect of it.
Just a practical thing in relation to that then. We go back to Genesis where we started with John, and we see a perfect scene coming from the hand of God. And we see Satan moving in rebellion and seizing control, becoming the God of this world, the prince of the power of the air and so on.
Isn't it sad to see that for 6 ,000 years, plus another 1 ,000 at least, the havoc and the mayhem and the evil and the sadness that has been wrought in this world by him, and still doing it.
And of course, that's what sin does, and it'll do that in our lives too.
So the idea of a dispensation, then Mark, just to bring that out, it's the thought, isn't it, of God testing fallen man, or God testing man initially in innocence, but fallen man ever since. And here in this 1 ,000 year period, you have the very best of conditions.
The curse largely removed, you have perfect administration from heaven down to earth, and it's thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And even in those conditions, fallen nature will still take a toll.
There will be a people that have been born naturally during the millennial period, which at the end when Satan is released, they rebel, and of course there's summary judgment upon them, but still fallen man, in the end analysis, after the very best of conditions on earth,.
Still is a failure. Absolutely, and it's not going to be a handful. Satan will find a large number waiting for him, who I take it, they're ready for him to appear. And maybe it's worth just sort of for the sake of, well, actually, maybe we'll leave that until we get to the constitutions, because I'm keen that we get a handle on who's in the kingdom, and who there is for Satan to work with, but we're not there just yet.
Maybe we should move then to the commencement of the kingdom. Sorry, Brody, did you? You looked like you were going to say something. The commencement of the kingdom. So actually in Brother Brody's Bible reading, we saw how that David came to the throne, but before David, there was the whole business with Saul.
And of course, when Christ comes, there will be someone who has sought to take the position of universal dominion. And we've seen in these readings that Satan is the great counterfeiter. He's not creative, he doesn't devise new things, but he takes what God purposes, and he deforms it, he depraves it, really.
And we've seen right through history that Satan has always been attempting to establish his own kingdom as a rival to God's kingdom. And that will reach, we can trace it through Nemrod and on down through history, that reaches its zenith, really, in the period of the tribulation, where there's this man that we call the beast, empowered by Satan, assisted by the false prophet.
And he heads up an empire that scripture speaks about as Babylon, that great historical title of the enemy of God's people and the enemy of God's purpose. And so he will have not only sought universal dominion, he will have sought universal worship.
In the temple of God, he will show himself that he is God. And we read just at the end of Revelation chapter 19, how that when Christ comes, as the nations are all gathered around Jerusalem and the final annihilation of that city has been, is in process, we might say, Christ is going to come.
And that rebellion and that man who has sought to arrogate to himself universal rule. It's a terrible thought. He and the false prophet cast alive into a lake of fire. And then, then Christ comes. So brother Mark, are there three ways in which that the Lord actually deals with enemies?
First of all, the beast and the false prophet cast alive into the lake of fire, the first inhabitants of the lake of fire. Then the enemies, there will be some who will die when the Lord Jesus comes, coming in flaming fire, taking vengeance on them that know not God.
There will be enemies who will die. Then there will be a sessional judgment. And so would you mind just defining, if you don't mind, define, Daniel gives us three dates, isn't that right? And included in those dates, Daniel 12, there will be that sessional judgment of Matthew 24.
Thanks, thanks, John. I was just gonna come to that, but William, were you a combater? On the days. Okay, okay.
Well, go ahead then. Okay, so there's an event that takes place in the middle of the week, you just referred to it, in the middle of the tribulation period, right? The man that we call the Antichrist, the man of sin, he sits in the temple of God showing himself, yes I do, showing himself that he is God.
He desecrates the temple in Jerusalem. Now from that point, from that day, you can start and count 1260 days, three and a half years. And on the 1260 day, Mark, the Lord comes from heaven in manifest glory and the beast and the false prophet are summarily taken, thrown into the lake of fire, right?
Then there's another two days. You have a statement in Daniel 12 that goes like this. And from the abomination that make it desolate, there shall be 1290 days. So there's an extension of 30 days. And the way that is stated, marking it from the abomination of desolation, there shall be, it seems to be indicating a limit on rebellion.
And during that period of time, those 30 days I take it, what John has referred to it as the judgment of the living nations, Matthew 25, the separation of the sheep and goats takes place. And during that period of time, the Lord literally roots out from his kingdom all things that offend in a negative way, right?
And then the next verse goes like this. Blessed is he that comes to the 1335 day, Mark. Blessed, so that's positive. I would take it that during that period of time, interested in your thoughts, I would take it that the Lord Jesus in that period of time is inaugurating the structures of the kingdom, if you will, setting it up, perhaps the Ezekiel's temple built, and he will sit upon the throne of his father, David, inaugurating the kingdom on earth, right?
Fulfilling those scriptures in that way. But then there's the heavenly city that has the throne of God and of the Lamb. So the kingdom, I would take it, actually starts in the end of those days at the 1335 day, Mark.
Okay, thanks, that's helpful, William. So on this issue of these judgments, I take it there are actually two judgments that have to take place before the kingdom of God can actually begin. I mean, I mean, mopping up operation is really an inappropriate term, but there is a sense in which that has to happen.
There has been this return of Christ, and for those armies and enemies who are gathered, it has been cataclysmic. And he has destroyed them with a sword that comes out of his mouth. It's just the word of God that will do.
We speak about the battle of Armageddon, but there's really not much fighting that's involved. The slaughter, the conquest, if you like, of Armageddon. Then there are a number of things as William has been bringing before us that have to be accomplished.
And there are really, it seems to me, two judgments that will take place. So in Ezekiel chapter 20, we read about, the Lord says to Israel, I will bring you, verse 34, verse 33, as I live, said the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand and with a stretched out arm and with fury poured out will I rule over you.
And I will bring you out from the people and will gather you out of the countries wherein you're scattered with a mighty hand and with a stretched out arm and with fury poured out. And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people and there will I plead with you face to face like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness and in the land of Egypt.
So will I plead with you, said the Lord, and I will cause you to pass under the rod and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant and I will purge out from among you the rebels and them that transgress against me.
I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn and they shall not enter into the land of Israel and ye shall know that I am the Lord. So that there's a judgment, a purifying judgment, particularly for the nation of Israel.
Brethren might want to say more about that. Then we have what we read about, what we didn't read about, but what we do read about in Matthew's gospel, chapter 25 and verse 31. When the son of man shall come in his glory and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory and before him shall be gathered all nations and he shall separate them one from another as a shepherd divided his sheep from the goats and he shall set the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left.
Then shall the king say unto them on his right hand, come ye blessed of my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world for I was a hungered and you gave me meat, I was thirsty and you gave me a drink, I was a stranger and you took me in, naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him saying, Lord, when saw we thee a hungered and fed thee or thirsty and give thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger and took thee in or naked and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick or in prison and came unto thee?
And the king shall answer and say unto them, verily I say unto you, in as much as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then he shall say unto them on the left hand, depart from me ye cursed and to everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.".
And then we get the inverse of what he says to those who are blessed. So that's what we're speaking about here in terms of the judgments that take place at the commencement of the tribulation. So help us, brethren, about the people who are judged and the basis on which they are judged.
Is this teaching salvation by works?
I would take it, I would have more to say about the sessional judgment of the nations, the living nations, but we can go to that Ezekiel judgment too. But the living nations are divided up based on their testimony of faith by what they did during the tribulation.
So it's not what they did that makes them suitable for the kingdom. It's the fact that they originally had faith. And then for those persecuted saints in the tribulation, these sheep now helped to take care of them.
When they saw that they were hungered, they fed them. When they saw that they were fleeing, they were sick, they helped them. I take it that what we're seeing here is that those who become the sheep in this judgment are those who express their faith by helping the persecuted saints.
And those who are the goats never had faith.
That's very helpful. So we're not thinking here about sort of getting into heaven on the basis of philanthropy or getting into the kingdom, I should say, on the basis of philanthropy. The tribulation is going to be a time of intense pressure and persecution.
And we read in Revelation 20 about those who are martyred. So there'll be the 144 ,000 who are sealed. They will, and we discussed this in an earlier Bible reading, we're happy, I think, that they will go and they will preach.
There will be a response to their message. There will be those who will respond in faith. To give someone a cup of water, to visit someone in prison in the circumstances of pressure and persecution that will mark the tribulation, where we have an organized and institutionalized opposition to God that even goes beyond what is seen in some of the totalitarian states, where it would presently, you would need to be fairly convinced about the truth of Christianity.
If you were in China or in North Korea or some of these places to do these sort of things, you wouldn't just do it on a whim. And that pressure and that scrutiny is going to be intensified in the tribulation.
And so as our brother Brody has been saying, these are people and, well, their faith is not dead because it abides alone. Their faith is seen in the work that they perform. And we also see, and I think we should say, Christ's identification with his own.
You remember what he said to Saul on the road to Damascus? Why persecutest thou me? Saul was persecuting the believers, but the Lord, we might say, took it personally. Here we have those who are helping those who belong to Christ.
And again, the Lord takes it personally. And I think it's beautiful the way they, when did we do this? And he says, well, you did it, you did it to mine.
Therefore you did it to me. In 2 Thessalonians chapter two, in relation to those who are linked with the Lord Jesus Christ, Paul has this comfort for them. He's called them by the gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
They're not earmarked for wrath. Their lot is glory with the Lord Jesus Christ because they're linked with him. On the flip side of that, those who do receive the man of sin, they will share in his doom.
I take that they all might be damned. Now in Matthew 25, where we have been, at the end of that chapter, the last verse, those goats, we read, these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.
So would you take it from that, that the sessional judgment that our brethren have been speaking about, when the Lord Jesus will sit here on earth and judge those that are still living, the survivors of the tribulation, right?
That those who are unbelievers, the goats, they go from there directly to the lake of fire to share the doom of the man they've chosen,.
The beast and the false prophet. I think that's correct. So that's solemn, isn't that? Yeah.
So is it possible then that there could be souls living on earth today who will never experience death through the seven years of tribulation, who will never be in hell, but will go direct to the lake of fire, should the Lord come now?
Yes.
That's solemn, isn't it? That's possible, it is. So the other side of that then, Brother Mark, is this. The positive side of it is that apart possibly from babes in arms, very young children, the only inhabitants of the kingdom at this point in the kingdom are those who we would say are born again, those who have a relationship with the king.
That's a very important point. And we get to that again when we think about the constituents because it is important that we keep our eyes on that. So would you allow me then to go back to the Ezekiel passage?
In the Ezekiel passage, we actually get then a picture of what has happened with Israel in the past. Israel was taken into the wilderness in the past and God dealt with them in the wilderness in the past.
From the wilderness in the past, he brought them into the land, the servant of God. There was another servant of God. He went into the wilderness in the past. John 1, from the wilderness, he crossed over the Jordan.
He came into the land, the person of the Lord Jesus. And now we're going to see it with a restored nation in a coming day in Ezekiel chapter 20. We're going to retrace the path of the nation into the wilderness, from the wilderness, back into the land in perfect harmony and in what we would call spiritual relationship with God.
Very good, and it's maybe worth emphasizing because it will, I think, come up under the conditions, but just in case it doesn't, that it will be the land. And Ezekiel will give us very detailed instructions as to how the land will be apportioned and assigned.
So, and if you have some job, I tell you to get all of the instructions in Ezekiel spiritualized if they aren't literally true. But it's important for us to appreciate that there is a patch on earth that is special in the eyes of God.
And when Israel are restored, we thought in an earlier Bible reading briefly about the return from captivity. And they came back. And one of the interesting things we're told in Ezra was that they rebuilt the altar where it had been at the first.
And there's a tremendous emphasis in Ezra on getting back to right to the place where they left. God's going to bring his people. There have been in the lead up to the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, world leaders were trying to think, where can we put these problematic people?
And various patches of the world were suggested. We could put them here, we could put them there. And that would give them a land. And that wouldn't do because it's not the land, a land, but not the land.
And God will bring his people into the land. He will have them in the place where he wants them to be in this, the dispensation of the fullness of the times.
Mark, and you've drawn our attention to the chronology of the judgments at the beginning of the millennial kingdom. Aren't there also now three judgments at the end of this kingdom? Do you want to speak about those?
You go ahead, brother Donald. Well, we have the judgment of Satan again. He's cast into the lake of fire. We have the judgment of those who have risen in rebellion on earth. They are consumed, they're in the lake of fire.
And then we have the judgment of the dead, unbelieving of all time. Sadly, there are some who teach that that judgment is not just a judgment of unbelieving. They teach that there could be saved from that period of time, or those who are from the Old Testament like Queen Yeshiva and so on, who are there.
But they haven't taken part in the first resurrection. So this judgment, this last of these judgments, you're happy enough that that is unbelievers only.
I'm very happy, and thank you for raising that. Yes, I think that's absolutely right.
The first resurrection evidently is completed at the end of the tribulation. Revelation chapter 20, where Mark read, blessed is he that is part in the first resurrection.
We're coming to that in just a minute, but I just want to briefly address the point of chronology. Because like the Old Testament is full of the fact that there's a coming king. And there's a fair bit about it in the New Testament as well.
But if we didn't have Revelation chapter 20, we wouldn't be able to call it the millennium. We'd have to call it the kingdom because we wouldn't know how long it was. And sometimes people will sort of use that as a kind of an argument, as though that somehow meant that the millennium wasn't literally true.
But, you know, last time I checked, Revelation 20 was in my Bible. And Six times. Well, that's just the point. John makes up for the fact that we're not told elsewhere, because six times he will tell us, this is a reign for a thousand years.
And we thought about the beginning of that. We've thought, and we will think a little bit more about the end of it. But really, this point is just simply to say, it's for a thousand years. And our amillennial friends need to be careful, brother Mark, because there's other parts of scripture that are solely based on one passage.
Like, for example, if we wanted to teach the truth of headship, largely speaking with the coverings, et cetera, we have to go to one passage. That's right. If we want to teach the truth of what we know about the Bible and the inspiration of scripture when it comes to the New Testament, we're largely moving to one text, maybe two as our brother Mark knows, but we're narrowing it down again.
The field is narrowed again. So this is not a thing that is exclusive in the word of God, but it's made up, as you say, by the six occasions, a thousand years, a thousand years, a thousand years. Yes.
Thank you. Very good. And, you know, I mean, even if we didn't know that the duration is clear, there's going to be a kingdom, but God leaves us in no doubt about the duration of this. So we'll, if, happy enough with that, move on.