From Negative to Positive — Norman Grubb

The Holy Spirit and Living Union with Jesus

Holy Spirit, you're always speaking by your wonderful living voice, you have been all these days and you are tonight, and through this evening and through tomorrow. So we're able to hear your voice and through you, hear and see and come in living union with Jesus.

So we thank you, Amen. I'd like just to say, I suppose with my own missionary background and therefore some worldwide outreach, how moved I was by hearing from Tom and Virginia Price yesterday afternoon and today, and of the extensions of this foundation farthest out.

I find I can usually sense when God is on the move, and I sense that, as God is moving in a new way through this foundation farthest out, which is taking CFO fellowship and witness round the world. As I know the world, I believe it's right for something like this, and I have a conviction that this beginnings of the foundation farthest out is going to be as big as the beginnings of the whole movement.

You'll find that maybe in some ways the foundation farthest out will overwhelm the CFO just in this country. So I hope we can begin to catch the thrill that God is beginning to call us out now, to build, to reproduce the same kind of living fellowships in India and Africa and Indonesia and Jamaica and all around the world that we have here.

So I hope the day will come, maybe it is, I don't know, when the whole fellowship of camp farthest out will catch on to this, and find it part of the camp farthest out commission from God, and of course I shouldn't say this, but I'd like to see the day when every camp where they met had some time when it was presented to them, this calling of God to expand ourselves to the world, because as Tom knows and I know, the world is ripe for this kind of thing.

I also have a strong conviction that God's seal is on those two, God's seal of men and women, I believe those two are sealed in this kind of ministry, and God set him apart to be a large part with Dale Anderson, whom I know too is a precious man of God, in planting this witness worldwide.

So I thank God that he was brought to us these days. Now we've been talking these days of God's plan for eternity to manifest his lover father self and whatever purposes he has for eternity through his sons, his son and through his sons' sons are a vast company of people by whom he manifests himself so that the God manifests us, it's through the sons, the father son spirit will be seen in his love action and love purposes and love fulfilments, and we've been seeing how he has brought us as persons as we come to a place where we can be reliable sons through phases of recognition of our relationship to him.

Justification, Unity, and the Three Stages of Sonship

The first phase was the redemption phase, the justification phase, where as lost sinners we found our Lord Jesus Christ, we reconciled to God through faith in his blood, we're producing in us the consciousness of justification, that's what we saw on the, using those terms that the one John used, as a little child, first phase of recognition, come into this living, saved, redeemed, love relationship with Jesus, father and spirit.

Then we saw we moved on to what is the meaning of being a real person to the consciousness of a unified relationship, that the actual meaning of the living person, father son spirit and ourselves is that we have become a conscious unity, so it's we functioning, we do function as humans, it isn't really we functioning, we functioning is Christ functioning by us, we are the Christ in human form, and this is what his purposes of redemption brought us into, and again it's always by the inner consciousness because all we ever are is our inner consciousness, we are what we know we are.

So we've spent some time seeing how God has brought us into this in Christ and how we by faith move into the consciousness recognition of it. We now move on for a few minutes tonight to the final of the three, where it says that we are to have a relationship with him which is like a little child, young man and father, right out of you little children, right out of you young men, right out of you fathers.

And we saw that the first two relationships are for our development, little children and young men. The third is for what is dripping out from us in the fatherhood, as in fatherhood we move out into responsibilities for the family and our place in the world and in all normal activities or activities out from us.

So the first two are into us, the third is out from us. The statement made in the John word about it here, it doesn't seem at first to mean much, it says this, I write out you fathers because you have known him it is from the beginning.

Twice over it says, I write out you fathers because you have known him it is from the beginning. Now remember, knowledge is being mixed with something, knowledge is knowing, it is being it, it is part of me, it isn't something I just know here, it is something that has become part of me.

So I write out you fathers because you have become part of him it is from the beginning. He is not even given a name there, he is just the eternal one. Not him at the beginning, him from the beginning.

So we see here that the third relationship is union with him in his outgoing purposes, in his perfecting purposes, him from the beginning on to the ending of it. And we are in union with him, participators of him on that relationship.

That is a very strong message, a strong presentation. Because you see, this person, this living person, we see all along only has one nature, he is for others, he is love, he is for others. His whole existence, his love, his thrill, his joy, his fulfilment, his universe is perfected, his people are perfected, he is out for himself, giving himself for others.

This is the only nature he has, this is where his joy, his peace, his fulfilment is. So this is what this world is saying to us. The recognition that if I am a justified person through Christ, if I am a unified person in Christ, so it is not I living, it is he living.

Now I am also a cooperating person and there is no other meaning to my life except for others. That is a strong statement. There is no partial meaning, the only meaning to life. If you and I are justified, unified, people in this living relationship to him, there is no other purpose of time and eternity, no other meaning to our life except for others.

That is a strong statement. It means that whatever happens to us, see we so easily slip back into the old concept, the old outlook, why is this happening to me? Why am I in this situation? Why am I in this health condition?

I am relating to myself. Now as this new consciousness settles into me, this new recognition settles into me, every single thing happens to me because God has some purpose by me for others. Some means of which he is manifesting himself to others by me in this situation.

No situation ever happens to me again for myself. It is always part of the purpose for others. That is why I keep saying it is a strong thing, a strong thing to recognise it. Now in each case we learn, what we recognise, faith, faith is recognising facts.

When we were saved we recognised a fact, Jesus took my place, and then the consciousness came into us. When we recognise this unified relationship, we recognise it is not I, it is living Christ forever as a person, as a real person living here.

I recognise it by faith, the witness came into me, settled me in this fact. So you see, in each case it is a recognition of a fact. So I am just, in this final statement, throwing it out to you, for those who are listening here.

Can I begin to recognise there is never any other meaning to my life? Everything that happens to me is always because God has some outgoing purpose by me in his saving, self-manifesting purposes in the world, nothing else.

If I begin to recognise it, it will begin to settle into me. As I say, you see, on the health condition, often you know seeking health is selfish. It is why aren't I better? No, no, no. Start by saying, what has God got in this?

Don't start by saying, may I be better? Start by saying, what have you got in this? My body is part of you. What are you after? In what way are you revealing yourself through me in this situation? In every situation, start by saying, I am a co-operative with God.

My amazing privilege is to be the means by which God manifests himself. We are the God manifesters in this world. This is our high privilege. Co-operative with him. Begin to learn to have that outlook on life.

You see, we have moved over. It used to be a question of our dependence on him. Now it is our co-operating with him. We used to know him. He is my living bread. He is my living water. That is a permanent fact now.

I don't have to find him again. He is forever my living bread in here. He is forever my living water. I don't have to find him again, nor do I have to recognize him. We talked about the difference between soul and spirit on that level, I think, yesterday.

So that is our permanent background. But our foreground is, we are co-bred with him for others. We are outpoured wine with him for others. We are co-with God for others. It is a different relationship.

It is a relationship of fellowship, co-operation, co-acting. Not, oh God, I am hanging on to you. No, no, no, that is fixed. He is hanging on to me. He got me, praise God. That is finished. I don't have to hang on to him.

He has got me. I am part of him. He is part of me. We are he in human form forever. That is fixed. So don't look at that. Take up the knowledge. Now, as he, we are as he, with him. What is his purpose in manifesting himself some way by me to others?

So this, I am just presenting to you, this is the fatherhood level. It is actually the level which we, because all these begin in the beginning. Even when we are born again, we begin to do that. You know, the moment we are his, our delight is we can be blessing to others, isn't it?

We know it already. Our true joy is when we can be something for others, isn't it? When our lives can tell for others, that is our joy. That is eternal joy. It is the only joy there is. That is eternal thrill, joy, fun, gaiety, wonder.

When we, in some way, are bred where other people can eat and find Jesus. And outpoured living water, as it were, by which other people can drink and find Jesus. That doesn't mean, it doesn't mean, don't get back, doesn't mean we try to be for others.

Cut that trying out. It is this person acts by us. We don't do it. He acts by us. He takes us his way. So we don't try. Don't try. Just be yourself. This wonderful life, you are just yourself, as if you are just for yourself.

It is a paradoxical life. You are just yourself. You are not you. You are Jesus. We talked about yesterday. Forget that and be yourself. This is Jesus offering to you. Live your life. Live it freely. But the person in you is the person for others.

The Holy Spirit in you is the person for others. He will cause you to be for others. You cannot help it. He will cause you to relate your life so that you can be somebody that other people can find. They are also sons of God by grace in Jesus Christ and so on.

Crucifixion, Resurrection, and Ascension

So I will throw that out as a third recognition. See faith is recognising fact. So we begin to settle into this high recognition. This is what is called the ascended recognition. See there are three phases.

Crucifixion, Resurrection and Ascension. Crucifixion cut me out from the old dominion of Satan. Resurrection introduced me to a new relationship with the Lord himself, Christ himself. Ascension, he is seated.

Seated means you have finished it. Jesus Christ has finished the death and resurrection. That is out. It is out for us too. That is a background. Now having finished the past, now you are occupied in the next step.

The next step going out is to bring in the multitudes, the harvest. And we are the means on which he goes out. So we are seated with him to go out with him to bring in the harvest. On the victory level we are far above Satan and all the rest of it.

That is the ascended life we are in now. We are left behind the cosmic direction. We are living in the ascension which is the outgoing life. By us he can reap in his harvest. I say again, don't try to interpret that.

Don't try to say what I mean. But if you recognize and accept my faith. This is the meaning. Accept now Lord it is up to you to put this through me now. Now Lord join me like this. It is you who in your own way manifest yourself through me to others.

In whatever way that may be. And I accept that by faith. I remember, if it is a young man. Precious scripture might be for a young person here. I remember as a young man I got those two scriptures in John.

One is, he shall be in you a well of water, Jesus Christ. A well of water springing up into everlasting life. That is Christ in you. A well of water springing up. There it says, here it believes on me, John 7 .38.

Out of him, out from his inmost parts shall flow rivers of living water. In you, springing up into everlasting life. Out from me as rivers of living water. I remember when I saw that in my early ministry.

Maybe 20, 21 years of age. Rivers. Maybe one day a muddy trickle. Muddy trickles are cleaned up somehow and rivers flow. They do. Might there be one person who catches on to that? Might there be one person who says, OK.

God says, I don't do anything. If I believe him, he said, out of my innermost parts will flow rivers to the world. OK God, I take it. I sign it up. If you take that, I took it and made it my own. Well, I don't know.

Muddy trickles? I don't know. The streams do flow. Streams do flow. That's all about it. Rivers is a big word. These streams flow. And they don't dry up either. So see, this is the, that's all I really want to say about this.

What is the meaning of the fatherhood level. The Holy Spirit in you is the one who fills it in your life. The relationship of this and that by which he manifests himself by us. Now I just want to ask for a moment or two.

Inner and Outer Manifestation of God

By what ways does God manifest itself by us? By what ways are we God manifesters? We are in the foreground, persons in action. This is persons in action. But the persons in action really are Christ manifesting by us.

By what way are we people in action? So really it is the living God expressing himself through us and moving us into whatever his purposes of grace and power may be through us. By two ways, inner, inner and outer.

Because we're inner people and we're outer people. Or if you like, we're spirit and we're body. Or soul and body together. Spirit, inner. Soul and body, outer. Two ways by which he manifests himself by us.

Now remember, we are inner people. Every outer thing comes from an inner relationship. The supreme importance is the inner relationship, the inner activity. What the inner activity is, it comes out in the outer form.

So first of all the inner one is the one that matters. Now the simple term used in the Bible of course is by faith. By faith we know that. But it's given a place of supreme importance in the Bible. There are only two words in the Bible which are chapters themselves.

One is faith, Hebrews 11. The other is love, 1 Corinthians 13. And faith works by love. It works by the inner motivation. The self-giving motivation. But the faith always works by love. We used to have a self-loving motivation.

And we worked faith for our own ends. That's the old unsaved life. In the new life we have the other love motivating us. And that lies behind our faith. Faith works by love. But faith. So faith is given a central place.

Jesus always gave it to us. Jesus put a startling emphasis on faith. For instance when the woman came to him with the issue of blood. She touched him and he knew virtue came out of him. When he turned, he didn't point his virtue.

He said, daughter, thy faith has saved thee. What interested him was somebody who moved in by faith. And the faith liberated the virtue to come through. He was centering around the human element of the faith which made it possible for the virtue to come through.

From Negative Perception to Faith

So faith. Now, there's an attitude of faith and an action of faith. I want to stay on this for a moment. Attitude of faith. How you see things. All faith is how you begin to see things and then you attach yourself to it.

All faith is you see something, you believe something, you want something, you take it, you go to it. So it starts by what you're seeing, you're believing in, what's attracting your attention. And then faith is, I'll take that, I'll go there, I'll do this.

Your action of faith, your attitude of faith, your action of faith follows your attitude of faith. I've got a tremendous revolution on this one. I don't know if you have. You see, we humans are geared to one attitude.

That's the negative. We're in a negative world and we're always seeing things negatively. Life's full of it. We see our problems, we see our difficulties, we see the large and small things. We see everything in terms of difficulties.

Difficulties in people, difficulties in things, difficulties in situations. The whole of life pours in on those negative situations. Dark, evil, bad, negative, disturbing situations. So we live in a negative.

Now, when you see a negative, you're beaten by it. What can you do with it? That's the trouble. Life is a trouble. What can I do with my problem? What can I do with that difficult situation in people's lives or these heavenly situations?

What can I do with finance problems? What can I do with people who hurt me? What can I do with larger things in the world which are hurtful today and evil and so forth? What can I do with them? Well, what can we do?

The devil is stronger than the human self. We can't touch it. What can we do with it? It was a tremendous revelation to me. Have you had it? When I got a reverse in how I perceive things. A total reverse.

And that total reverse was when it dawned on me that I must see things wholly differently. Why? For one thing, I had a stretch in my understanding of God. See, I understood God personally to me. It's lovely.

I understood Jesus Christ personally to me. God personal. Christ personal. Holy Spirit personal. God universal. I had a vague idea. It dawned on me. God's in everything everywhere. Of course He is. We've been talking about it all the time.

Everything is expressed in Him. The whole universe is expressed in this one. This person is in everything. Good and evil. Oh. So everything, whatever situation it is, their situation, God's in it. I went further.

I told you a few moments. I found that God means a thing to be what it is. God means evil to be evil. It is in it. That's difficult, isn't it? God means evil to be evil. He means evil things to be evil, and evil people to do evil things, and evil consequences to follow.

He means it. I've cut the word permission, permissive will, a long time out of my life. Means it. What do I mean? Well, I saw it like this. The only way God can have living persons, living sons, they must be free people, of course.

Like Himself, free people. So He has to start, He does start, by making persons who are free. Now freedom is a necessity of choice. You know that. Freedom is I have to choose all the time. All life I'm free to choose, and what I choose takes me over.

You've come here this week. You came, it took you over. Life is, that's what faith is. You're free to choose, but the alternative is you choose it, it takes you over. So that's what freedom is. So if we're to be people, we have to be free.

And so we're free to make our choices. And of course our basic choice, we've talked about it in other talks, is am I with Christ as a self-giving person, with Christ expressing His self-giving love through me?

Or am I with myself, or really with Satan, in being a self-loving person? Is my choice with Satan to be a self-seeking, self-satisfying, self-gathering, self-centered person? Or is my choice with Christ, by His Spirit, by being self-giving, like a lover?

Well you know what happened of course. The whole human family went this way down. Now God's not responsible for the consequences. He's responsible for the freedom. He's not responsible for the consequence.

So God's not responsible for any evil thing. Evil things all come out of our misuse of freedom. Now we're all involved in this world, so we get its corruptions, we get its diseases. Some things we are responsible for, indirectly.

Mostly things just happen, accidents, hurts, tragedies in the world. We aren't directly, but we're mingled in the whole human family in this chaotic condition. This corrupting, disastrous, hurting, evil condition of this world.

We're in it. Now God's not responsible for that. God's responsible for the freedom which we use and produce this. But because He's God and perfect love, because He's everywhere, He's also in the situation.

Everything is He. So He's in the evil situation. But because He's love, He's in the evil situation to bring good out of it. Oh, that's it. He's in every evil situation. He's not responsible for it. It came into being through the products of this freedom of thought which produces those things.

But He's everywhere. He's right in those things therefore. Therefore the very evil thing, He's there. It's He in a sense, but because He's love, because He's perfect purpose, He's there to turn that thing into a redemptive end.

Don't you see what that means? Do you see, I can have a reverse way of seeing things, and I find this the key to a liberated life. I can either say to people, ooh, what shall I do with this? See humanly.

Or I can see with God's sight. With me, it looks like that, but I'm not seeing it like that. I'm seeing the perfect God with a perfect purpose, He meant it. A perfect action, perfect love, and a perfect outcome to this thing in that situation.

Thank you, Lord. You meant that thing to be, you aren't responsible for it. You're meant freedom to have its effects. Freedom to have its effects. You're not responsible. But because you're everywhere, because you're perfect love, you're in the heart of that business, and you're going to turn it into a new revelation in yourself.

Now that transforms your inner seeing. You are governed by your inner seeing. Do you understand that? We're inner consciousness. We live and are controlled by the way we see things. Not by things that are outside, how you see them.

It's tremendous. As you see a thing, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Now you always talk like that. We're human. All our life, oh dear, what about that? We're meant to be human, so I'm taught the world doesn't hurt.

But when I know this thing, wait a minute, I'm doing it all the time. And it doesn't look like it. It looks like the devil. It is the devil. But God, you gave that freedom, out of freedom, there's been this operation, if you like, of the devil here, but you're everywhere, you're there, and you're in the middle of that thing, and I see you meant to be, and I see you're going to turn this into a new revelation of your grace and love and power and presence.

Oh, I say, all right, OK, God, OK, praise the Lord. And from depression and a sense of binding defeat, so I'm liberated. God's in that thing. And you'll see God's going to come out of it. Transfer your hope, out of it.

Biblical Proofs of God’s Redemptive Purpose

So do you see this terrific thing? If this is true, there are no problems left in life unless you see there's a problem. There are no difficulties left in life unless you see there are difficulties. There are no diseases left in life unless you see diseases.

Don't look at diseases, see the living Christ in you. Let God handle diseases. Don't try to get the diseases healed, get busy seeing Jesus. Much better, much better. Don't, don't, you get it, don't see evil.

Now that's tough. Don't see evil. Bible says God doesn't. He says, pure eyes and behold evil. Read it, Habakkuk says that. There are the pure eyes and behold evil. And then it says to us, this is pure in heart, but then see God.

And that's what you see. The pure only sees God. Now, I'm not to see evil. But of course that's evil. Ah, ah, it looks like it. And it is, it is so on the outside. But I'm not, it's how I think matters to me.

It's actual fact, it's an evil thing like that. But what matters to me is how I see it. My, my, my, my contribution to it would be not, would be how I see it. Now, you see, so is it evil? No, I'm not seeing it evil.

No, I'm not seeing it. It is evil, it can be called evil, it looks evil. But I see everything as what God meant, utter freedom. He didn't produce that, but he meant it to be the effect. But because he's perfect love, perfect purpose, perfect will, out of that thing is going to come out all evil.

Now, I shall, so, if I ask hands raised in this room for a number of people who had tragedies in their lives and they've been blessed, and look up all over the place, or over the place we find tragedies turn out a new blessing, a new cause, a new, precisely, precisely.

You see, you thought, oh, it turns out to be a new relationship for you to God, to the people and so on. But I say again, do you see the tremendousness of that? Do you see that everything in the Bible is total, it's never partial.

Do you see the totality of that? There's one problem left, there's one tragedy left. I'm hurt as a human, let's say it as a human body. If I can see through, oh no, that it is like that, and that came out of misuse of freedom and so on, but my perfect God meant it to be, my perfect God meant freedom to have its effect, my perfect God is fitted in that thing, and he's going to come through with a new presence of this power of blessing of salvation and so on.

How revolutionary is this thing? That's where we've become on top pieces. If I just, I think I should do, you know it, if I give one or two biblically proofs, what could be greater? What could be greater than Jesus at Calvary?

It's fantastic. Who did Jesus see at Calvary? Who crucified him? Well, we know Satan did. We're told in the Last Supper, Satan entered into Judas, and Jesus knew Satan had entered into Judas, and he said quietly, Judas, he loved Judas, he tried to win him.

Alright, go out Judas, quietly, and do what you're going to do. He knew what he was going to do, betray him. And Satan was on their march now, and got into the Carithas and Pilate and the Pharisees and the soldiers, and Pilate wasn't so much to blame as other people were to blame, Judas and so on.

God, Satan's bar wide open. Do you get what Jesus said? Twice over, do you get it? The last verse, but one, in John 14, is the wonderful supper table conversation, on supper table. The last verse, but one, says this, Jesus said to his beloved disciples, Go after, I won't be much with you, I won't speak much with you, for the prince of this world cometh and hath nothing in me.

In me is in consciousness. Out is everything. Tear them to pieces. Have scourge, put them out. You're not a person. You're only a person. This is the great secret when you learn it. There are no prisons except your own self.

A prison is not a prison unless you take it as a prison. There's nothing bound to a person. A communist isn't a bound communist, when you've got Jesus. He's a joyous thing, and Jesus is in him, and Jesus is giving you a chance of some light where he is.

There are no bindings and no prisons on earth, except the way you take it, that's your only prison. When you take a thing as evil, and you're caught up by it, then there's evil and you fight it. When you say, God put me there, it's love, it's perfect, God's got me.

You're free. That's the strange reason why Paul said to a slave, said to a slave, remain a slave. Well, it isn't very good social gospel today. In 1 Corinthians 7 he says, if you're a slave, remain a slave.

Why? Because if you're a slave, you're outwardly bound to your master. But if you're Christ's slave, you're Christ's free man. You're free to love. That's freedom. To have Christ in you, and to be able to express the love of Christ, that's freedom.

And you, slave, and a free person, and your boss, caught up with his fresh stuff, he's a slave. A slave is fresh. Do you know what I mean? And so do you see that Jesus, that's the first thing, look at that, right at, confronting with Satan, there's nothing in me, can't see him.

Don't see him, I can't see him. There's nothing in me, outwardly, oh, I don't know he can't see him. Because three chapters afterwards, Jesus went through Gethsemane, and we're still looking up there.

You know that dramatic moment, and that's a wonderful word, you know it of course as well as I do. Came out of Gethsemane, there were the soldiers, the torches, and the shouts, and the noises, come to arrest him.

And there was our beloved Peter, having one good shot, one last flesh shot for Jesus. He got his sword out, wow. He got a little nervous, so he cut the ear off, he meant to cut the head off, to shake it as well.

And carried on. But do you see the beauty of this? Do you catch the beauty of it? Think, for instance, of the poise. If you're under arrest, you're pretty nervous, because evil, when you see evil, you're pretty nervous.

If you should be seeing these soldiers, you'd be nervous, pretty tense wouldn't you? Didn't see him. He's so free, he could pick up the ear and put it back, that's some miracle. Right, confronted by the soldiers.

Daniel says, listen, drop that, don't use those swords any more, listen Peter. The cup which my father has given me, shall I drink it? He called the devil the father's cup. That's going pretty far. The devil crucified is his father's cup.

The devil with his father's cup into that cup, out of that cup would be poured life for the world. So he called the wicked devil his father's cup, which the father gave him. That's going pretty far. So do you see how far we can go in saying, that's the Lord, that's the Lord.

It looks like a devil. It's the Lord, you watch. But to see the Lord coming through that very thing, which looks to me like a mess and a devil and everything else. We begin to get something where we begin to see our lost dear ones like that.

It's all right, God means to go that way to teach him some sense. God means us to go down to prepare us to go up. Leave him alone. OK, let him go that way. The father's got him. That's my faith. You watch.

The father's got him. Through this thing he's going to come back again. Then you have a freedom and love and faith towards the ones who outwardly all tear you up. Of course, the other famous illustration was Joseph.

I repeat, I should know it because it's a word used where God has said the purpose to make Joseph is to deliver the children of Israel in Egypt. You know the story, of course. And he put Joseph through all that selling of a slave by his own brothers.

And then under Potiphar's as a prisoner, Potiphar's wife lying him back in the prison again. After 14 years, he said the ironing of his soul, not only the ironing of his bands, but all the time that precious Joseph knew God as peace.

I won't go into it now, you can see it. Then he came up to be Prime Minister and you know the children of Israel returned. And the moment of reconciliation came. But that famous word, it's in the last chapter of Genesis.

He said to his brothers who were still a bit frightened because of what they'd done. You meant it for evil, God meant it for good. Write that under every tough spot you've got. God means that for good.

Every tough spot, like God means it. He doesn't permit it. God wasn't responsible. The tough spot came out of their evil doings. But God meant to use those evil doings for good. And so the devil does the evil doings and all the fallen men, OK, OK.

God doesn't see it. He says, that's all right. That's the very thing I mean after that transformation of a new good. Isn't that beautiful? If I wanted one third final proof, it's the actual boldness of the statement of Peter of the first speech after Pentecost, after the crucifixion.

You read there, he spoke to the crowds around there. He said, your people who determined counsel, determined it, determined counsel and the full knowledge of God by which it has the crucifixion, say, God determined you.

God determined you to do it. God determined which it has to crucify. This is the first way in which the light now fits through us. Because when in all sorts of situations you have poise, and you have peace and you have praise, light shines in you.

A light which the world hasn't got. Because, of course, the world is always getting torn up by things. You can't see things as we do. Now, I want to say one more thing. I have a bit tonight, but I may finish it tomorrow morning.

Faith Action and the Son’s Authority

One other thing. At least begin it. We in faith attitude, that's victory. Faith attitude. I have died, you may say, to the attitude of seeing it negatively, seeing it as you see it. I have lived as God sees it, with God and this release and praise and so on.