Dead Men Tell No Tales — Rolfe Barnard

By Evangelist Ralph Barnard of Winston-Salem, North Carolina. His subject is, Dead Men Tell No Tales, or, The Power of a Holy Life. The 16th chapter of Luke,.

The Rich Man, Lazarus, and the Finality of Eternity

Luke chapter 16. We wish to read together the last part of the story our Lord Jesus told about the destiny of two men. One whose name was Lazarus, the other, the spirit did not see fit to name. One of them perished sumptuously here on earth, and he died and was buried.

The other was a beggar, he died and was buried. And the Lord Jesus lifts the curtain between eternity and time, and lets us see that their situations were reversed. And the one who was fared so well in death's life, his sufferings promised in the life to come.

And the one who was a beggar in death's life, feasting on the riches of God's goodness for his people. One of the men, the rich man, does not cry to get out of hell, but he cries that his sufferings may be relieved.

And the answer is that when a man dies, all the mercy that God has for men and women is this side of the grave. And the other answer is that there is a grave door, and it's fixed. It cannot be moved, and there cannot be any travel between the land of bliss and the land of torment.

In other words, this rich man is assured here in this passage of scripture that his destiny is sealed, that there shall be no surcease from his awful, awful torment. Then beginning with verse 27, this rich man is made to turn his attention back to this old earth.

Having found out there's no hope for him, he turns and he speaks in this life. Then he says, I pray thee, therefore, Father, that thou wouldst send him to my father's house. He asks that the Father send Lazarus back from heaven to hell, and touch his finger and water, come and bring that finger that has touched water and bring it and put it on his parched tongue.

And so that couldn't happen. So he said, All right. I pray thee, therefore, Father, thou wouldst send him to my father's house back down on the earth by a fire-brother, that he may testify unto them, blessed all souls, they come into this place of torment.

Abraham said unto them, They have Moses and the prophet. Let them hear them. He said, No, Father Abraham, but they won't listen to them. But if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. He said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophet, neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead.

Repentance as the Only Escape from Judgment

There is a sentence in that expression that we cannot get around. That is, that the only escape from the torments of the life to come is the exercise of real and genuine and lasting and heartfelt repentance in this life.

This man said, If you send somebody from the dead and let him testify to them, they'll repent. He's saying that they're in hell, that I'm in hell because I didn't repent. He's saying they're headed for hell.

And the only way of escape is Bible repentance. We're living in a generation that's going to wind up in hell. Your neighbors are going to wind up in hell. Your children. Many of them read in Sunday school, but more interested in the things of the world than in the things of God.

It amazes you to see youngsters now when we tell them they're saved because they've made a profession of faith. And we do not see them in time except on Sunday morning. And they're at home tonight glued to a television or a radio, or they're doing something or they're getting their lessons, or they're down at the movies, or they're going to see Grandma.

And yet we call them Christians. And we find out, we do not recognize that this is the day when men make professions but do not repent. When men claim Jesus but do not turn from their sins. When men claim to be saved but hold on to their darling love.

When we say we believe the gospel but we do it from a heart forsaking, turning from our sins. No one is saved who has not turned from all of his sins in such a way as to never go back to them. There's no going back in the service of the Lord Jesus Christ.

No one is saved who can be happy in any kind of sin. Is that right? That's so. And we're living in a generation now where people are going to hell. They're sending to hell from our churches. They're going to hell from our homes.

They're going to hell all about us because they've missed repentance. They've missed repentance. And the only way on earth, listen to me, the only way on earth they're going to be kept out of hell is by the churches of the living God either becoming full of saved people or full of people who are obedient.

I look in your faces tonight and I know every last one of you are in the same shape I'm in. You either need to be saved, you've met Christ, or you need to be obedient and walk in paths of holiness and come to areas of consecration you've never heard about and learn to love the word holiness instead of making fun of it.

The Church’s Testimony and the Need for Revival

That's what we need, isn't it? My friends, the only hope is for the churches to get on fire. Somebody said that the test of whether the gospel will work on the outside world will be determined by hard work inside.

And our churches today do not have a testimony now. Nobody's afraid of us. Nobody much is under conviction because of the holy garment that the people in our churches wear today. Senators are not screaming for mercy but watching us live.

We talk with them, we walk with them, we have intercourse with them. We invite them to our services and they know that it's not much reality and this generation's going to hell as surely as I'm standing here unless a fire can be started in the house of God.

There's never been a revival since time began that has advertised revival but when the fire starts, people come to see a fire. People come to see a fire. Most places I go, the whole meeting, the churches, they, the membership tonight, they let us have the building to hold the meeting in.

And most of them don't show up Sunday morning. Some of them, fewer, show up Sunday night. Monday night, not so many. And to get crowds, we have to get them from vistas. You go to Burlington, you can't get a corporal's guard where these folks come from.

Let's have a few of the members, vistas come from other churches. And we call it revival. The world's going to hell because it's misrepentance. And we cannot expect our houses of worship to be filled or overflowing with men and women hungering and thirsting after God until the churches once more either get full of saved people or the ones of us who are saved get filled with the Spirit and the Lordship of Jesus Christ shall be regnant and march on our forest.

And people say, somebody's been bent to the rule of Jesus Christ. And brother, this world, when it sees the gospel work inside our churches, it'll come to watch the fire burn. Now we're down to just that.

We've tried everything else. Some of Anglich I know would not think of trying to hold a gospel service without having a movie. Most of them have a movie. Every night they say, we can't get people to come to hear the word of God.

And we can't, unless the fire is built. We can't, unless God's got some people that are saved and hungering and thirsting and ready to confess every known sin and ready to be done with everything that there's any doubt about.

We've got broad-minded people now. And the only difference on earth between us and the outside world is we claim to be Christians and they don't. Neither one of us know much about it. And all that while the world is going to hell.

I want us to think pretty seriously tonight about this very simple statement. This world's going to hell because it's missing the viable way of repentance. And the only thing between this generation and hell is the testimony of people who know what repentance is by experience.

Who know what it is to hate sin and run from it and live a godly, holy life. And whose lives, by the whole in its awesome, will strike conviction in the hearts of people. Is that what you want? I think that we cannot go on too much longer now turning wheels within wheels, having our sons schoolin', preachin' our training unions, preachin' our prayer meetings, our so-called revival meetings, and we'll come in and go out like we came.

We do not need God. And we do not know what holiness is now. This is a generation where people are afraid of holiness and not afraid of sin. And we'll never see the Shekinah glory of God in our churches.

And the world will never come to see what's goin' on until we walk again in paths of holiness. The only thing between this generation and hell, the only hope of winning this generation, is that the fire of the Holy Ghost shall be started in the meeting houses that were called churches of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Confession, Holiness, and the Evidence of Salvation

I wonder if I'm speakin' to anybody at night claimin' to be a Christian and there's the least thing in your life about which there's any question at all. Brother, you better get out on your knees. You better not leave this house tonight.

If you do, and you ask me to come here to lead you in revival, you a member of this church, and you one of these church members goin' around here and sayin', I don't think there's anything wrong with this, and I don't believe there's any more harm in this and this and that, and I don't think God will send me to hell for this, and I don't believe this is as bad as something else.

Why, it's the judgment. It'll be terrible when God charges you with the blood of sin on your hands. Oh, my God. Think of it. This world, hell and God, misrepentance, and the only hope is for people who know repentance.

They hate all sin. They hate every kind of sin. They run from every kind of sin. You can't, you can't get them to entertain the idea of sin. They've met God. They know what a heart forsaking of sin is.

They're not willing to be guilty of anything about which the least possible question can be raised by God or man. Oh, my, oh, that's Christianity. That's the evidence of salvation. These men and women run up down this country that smoke the same brand that the world does, drink the same brand the world does, go to the same shows that the world does, listen to the same things the world listens to, talk the same language the world listens.

They advertise the mockery of religion. They do not advertise what's changed Jesus. And they're hell-sinked, not only going to hell themselves, but they're dragging everybody they know along with them.

And the only hope of rescuing the perishing and careful of dying and seeing a breath of revival and seeing men thrust into the kingdom of God in your day and mine is the people who know God in repentance and faith and hate sin with all their souls every kind of sin and run from it and love God and bear the mark and rule of his reign in their lives till the spirit shall lift up their voices intently to this generation.

I'll listen to a man talk about things of eternity if he, if I know him and I know the gospels work for him. I'll listen to a man if I know that he's been brought to the place he hates sin. I'll listen to a man if I can see in his life the marks of his devotion to and love for the Lord Jesus Christ and that's the only kind of people this world will listen to.

Ladies and gentlemen of Calvary Baptist Church you need not expect God to visit in revival power if there's a person here who's willing to engage in anything about which there's any question. There are two statements in one verse of scripture in the Bible that mark a child of God letting it go.

Nevertheless the foundation standeth sure the Lord knoweth them that are his and let everyone that nameth the name of the Lord depart from all iniquity. This is a generation listen to me this is a generation of so-called Christians who want to do everything they possibly can and still not go to hell.

People come to me and say Brother Barnwell God sent me to hell for doing so and so and I say yeah he'll send you not for doing so and so because you show you've never repented. If you'd repented you wouldn't want to be finding out how much sin you could do and still get to heaven.

You want to be finding out how far you can run from sin. God looks at the heart. God looks at the heart oh dear me dear me this is serious with me this is serious with me. God bless your heart. I've learned about this my heart bleeds about listen to me this generation going to hell and the churches of the living God waiting in worldliness making fun of holiness sneering at godliness fraud mine it's a fraud.

We've not had enough cheese to spread on the crackers and we've lost our testimony and nobody pays much attention to us. And that heart is breaking when I remember that the prayer of this rich man is he said on the human side I know there's nothing that can reach my five brethren except testimony by somebody that knows what he's talking about.

It's heartbreaking when you face the fact that the only thing on the human side for you and I got any part of entering into the kingdom of God is some infinite intelligence. The only thing is our testimony our testimony God if it gives a broad mind to sound if it gives an uncertain sound if it gives a weak sound if that is not lies that live or lived in truth that this gospel is the message of a supernatural death by a supernatural God and the work of the spirit a miracle of supernatural man so that they'll live not commonplace lives but supernatural lives.

Lives that cannot be lived except by men who've met God and who know God in their experience. Listen to me. Listen to me. That's what we need tonight. That's what we've got to have. If that's what you want to pray for if that's what you want to confess to if that's what you're after then it's not a mockery.

But if we think that we can pull the wool over God's eyes and get men born in the kingdom of God over our unconfessed sins over our broad minds that live in over our non-fellowship one with another over our making fun of holiness over our refusing with anointed lips to witness to the supernatural work of grace that's been wrought in our hearts that transforms us.

And we know it can work in us and work in somebody else. If we're not willing to do that it's mockery to have church services. It's mockery to say we're going to entertain the hope of a revival meeting.

The Living Must Pray and Testify

That's right. That's right now the two things tonight. First of all if anybody's going to testify to this generation it'll have to be us. If anybody's going to pray for men today it'll have to be us. Dead people are not going to come back to do our praying for us.

Dead people are not going to come back to testify to our loved ones for us. This man sent him Lazarus back and let him testify to my brothers and Abraham said no no that's not the way God works. That's not the way God works.

Lazarus has done his due now. He's in glory. He's done all the witnessing he'll ever do. And God's not going to raise people from the dead to do the praying for this generation. God's not going to raise people from the dead to do the preaching to this generation.

God's not going to raise godly holy men of old who saw revival and paid the price and sought the breath of God and walked under the rule of Christ and saw and moved mountains and filled up valleys and swept hordes of people into the kingdom of God.

It's not enough for us to read about them and pray that God will send them back. If anybody's going to warn this generation. If anybody's going to testify to this generation. If anybody's going to weep over this generation.

If anybody's going to pray for this generation. If anybody's going to keep men out of hell with that body of flesh it's the men and women who know God in this day in this day. If anybody's going to wish this in this community it'll have to be the same people in the churches around here if anybody's going to pray for them around here you can't import somebody to do it for you.

Revival Through Agonizing Prayer

I was in Utica, New York some years since and they took me down to a woolen mill a hundred years before Charles Finney God's greatest gift to evangelism had been in Utica not a very big place at that time city of a hundred and fifty thousand people.

When I was in it and he held a meeting so did I. Nobody found out much. I was in town. We had all the churches in the city pleasing anything they came to get me. I had a big old store spent a lot of money on an advertisement got me on the radio passed out handbills not many folks ever found out.

We were having a meeting just went right on just went right on and I went down got a card. I had to get a card and one of the pastors took me through a woolen mill. A hundred years before that Charles Finney was in the city and he'd been in that same woolen mill and the spirit of God was so working all over that city of Utica that when Mr. Finney stepped in the building all the workers coming acquainted with his presence quit working on the spinning wheels the looms or whatever they were and just got down on the fence sobbed and prayed people everywhere.

And the owner of the spinning of the woolen mill came to Mr. Finney and begged him to talk with the people and help them know how to receive. He said to do nothing but cry and bawl and pray. And he said he can't keep the factory running and said I'm interested in thy souls and said they're seeking the Lord.

And Mr. Finney when he went in there they begged him to show them how to receive. I had to get me a card and they forbade me to give out any tracts and told me not to speak to anybody and disturb them.

You see the difference between Finney and me. Finney had the power of God and I don't have much of it. Finney turned the city for the souls of men. Oh he said businessmen going about their business they'd meet together.

Next thing you know they'd be down on their knees right on the sidewalks and tables absolutely oblivious to everything except that much of it went on in that six month revival campaign where over a hundred thousand souls came to God.

He said they were so oblivious to business and everything else that the rest of the soul not knowing it that they literally wore the pavement down with their knees. And he said women going to market and going about the town they'd congregate in little groups.

Next thing you know they'd be on their knees and said the women wore out the sidewalks and pavements with their knees crying to God for souls. And I stood there so help me God soft like my heart was breaking and in my heart went up a prayer raise those praying men and women.

The answer came back. I'm not going to raise those people back. They served their generation in the circle of our churches. When men loved the souls. When men prayed agonizing prayers. Fathers send those things back and the answer comes if anybody prays for sinners.

Now it'll have to come out of this generation of blood born twice born men and men. Dead men are not going to come back and promote revival. Dead men are not going to come back and cause people to repent.

Dead men are not going to come back and wear our capes with their knees praying for men and men. But brother we've got no right to say God can't give revival until we are willing to do what has to be done by God people in every generation to see an outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God.

I tell you my friends an atmosphere of Holy Spirit power in the Church of God is the only thing is the only thing between this generation and hell. I went some years ago to Anderson Indiana. It's my first experience preaching in the United Brethren Church.

I got a letter from the pastor. It happened to be the second largest United Brethren Church in America. He told me first it was a great big church and he wrote and asked me if I could come to him for a series of meetings which he hoped the Lord would bless.

I sat down and wrote him a letter and I said I never preached in a United Brethren Church and I'm a Baptist and I'm a strict Calvinist as they call it and I just do not know enough about what you people believe.

And I thought maybe you did not know enough about me and I would be a gentleman if I came but I would not want to embarrass anybody. I would never like to go to anybody's church and preach so as to embarrass God's people.

I recognize I don't know everything. I recognize you could differ with me and still be right. I recognize you could differ with me and we could still be safe. I recognize that wisdom didn't come to an end with me but I wouldn't want to come and my message be directly something you do not believe.

And I thought that would be the last of that. And he wrote me back. He said now I knew what you believed. I read lots of your sermons and I have been led of the Lord that your message would be a blessing to our church.

And he said we differ some doctrinally but that we love the same Lord. And he said if you will come to the preaching we'll do the preaching and we'll do the wisdom. And sure enough I went and it started on Sunday morning.

I'll never forget it. They had a Methodist song leader from Indianapolis a Baptist preacher in a United Brethren church. They had two great big choirs a tremendous scene and I called one of them the Black Legion and the other the Klu Klux Klan.

Some of them one choir was in white robes and the other was in black robes. And they didn't get mad at it and I never will forget it didn't have the doxology. The pastor got up and said of course he had a voice he could hear a country mile and he said we've got a preacher with us for this meeting that never preached in a United Brethren church.

And he kind of said and I want everybody that wants him to know you'll pray for him. Just get out on your knees and let's pray now. And there were about twelve hundred people there looked at me like every one of them got out on their knees.

The Klu Klux Klan got on their knees. The six year olds and the black legion got on their knees and everybody. And of course we Baptist wouldn't do that. We were too dead. Everybody prayed together. First time I'd ever been in a service like I'd never heard anything like it in my life wasn't any foolishness just prayed.

They thought the Lord could hear them. You know. And about twelve hundred people poured out their hearts to God. I'll never forget it as long as I live. God saved a lot of people that first day. And that night I was led to preach on the blackest sin out of hell.

Holiness as the Mark of Genuine Salvation

And a lot of those dead people claimed to live above sin. That's a worthy claim. And I tell you right now if you're not trying to live above sin you're going to hell. I tell you that you tell me you're saved and you're not striving with all your might to be perfect.

You're just as lost as you can be. You haven't made it yet though. But brother if you ain't trying you never been saved. You miss Christ. Christ don't save people and leave them satisfied and sinful. There ain't no people that know the truth that know the truth.

But there's some of them they claim to be above sin. And that night I preached on the sin claiming to know Christ and not bringing others to him. And I had been preaching about 20 minutes and there was a white headed woman.

I found out she was the old mother of Israel in the church. She began to talk and directly she broke up my sermon. She came running down to the front and she said oh my God. I never saw it before. I tried to walk right before God.

I tried to keep my garment holy in the sight of God. That's worthy. I bless God for that. I rather be in so much that he knows it than one of these facts that rags about how he lives and claims once saved always.

And so he said I can't. He got control of himself. And she said I've been guilty of the blackest sin out of hell. Didn't know. She said I have been concerned about bringing others to Christ. And she said if God will forgive me thank God for now my big concern is to live a holy and vested in in seeking for the souls of men.

That's right my friend that's right. I try to keep the average church member from talking to anybody there ain't bad enough sheep already but if I find somebody who knows God I say second time the only thing between this generation and hell is the testimony that somebody knows God.

What she did she said I'm going to call a prayer meeting if anybody wants to meet me meet me tomorrow night at 630 and the next night a thousand people were there and I attended that prayer meeting and every night for three solid weeks from one thousand to thirteen fourteen hundred sometimes nearly two thousand people met there in that vast host for one solid hour before the service began and everybody prayed together and I'm telling you the truth I almost became a horror when they asked me they brought people from Indianapolis they brought them from everywhere not the healing services.

I didn't know anything about it. I don't know much now but they brought them to that meeting and brothers and sisters a sinner could not get in the atmosphere of that meeting without being there that's that darkness I ain't never I've never seen it in the Baptist Church.

I've never been in the Baptist Church where you could get anybody hardly to pray. I hope I've met my first. I've never been in the Baptist Church where the people responded to the call to pray. I hope you will, yeah.

So help me God as a Baptist, I say it with shame. I've never held a meeting, 23 years as an evangelist going up and down the country. I've never been in Baptist Churches, groups of Baptist Churches. I've got my first Baptist Church yet to ever break in to believe and pray.

I hope I've come to my first. I'm honest with you. Baptists don't pray. We don't pray. You call a prayer meeting to be a half a dozen. Most of you have to read the paper at the same time. Smoke your pipe at the same time of night.

Listen to the same program on the radio. Call the old lady out or something. You haven't got time to pray. And brother, God's hand's not on us. His power's not upon us. And we're dying on our feet. Brother, they brought people from a hundred miles around in that northern state of Indiana.

And blessed the Lord. All the rest you had to do was to get a sinner in the house here or there. And he said, I want somebody to tell him how to say, that's revival. That's revival. That's what our hearts are hungry for.

But brother, he's not going to wish it on you. I don't know the relationship between God's sovereignty and God and the prayer of God's people. But I know the lives of his people. I know that. As sure as you put in the hat.

I know if you say, well, let's let God do it. He ain't going to do it. I know he works through his people and I know he works through his brothers and sisters to pay the price in agonizing prayer and confession of sin.

And he stabbed the hearts of men and women and caused sinners to scream out, what must I do to be saved? What must I do to be saved? Listen, listen, the only testimony, the only testimony between sinners and hail is kindly get now.

And it ain't working so good. God help us. We must face our sin. We must face it. My God, I'd rather you tar and feather me and run me out of town than refuse to face the challenge of the message tonight.

This world going to hell, this world going to hell, loving its sin, bleeding in its sin, volleying in its sin. My God can I call you to something responding. Oh, for times of confession and heart searching and agonizing prayer and witnessing God-given testimony.

That's the need of this hour. God choose this thing to work on the outside through the people on the inside. That's right. There are three ways that a child of God can testify to lost men and women. So far as I know, they're all the same thing.

But I say it's the same thing from three different directions. Will you listen to me? Are you interested or not? Are you? Are you listening to me? Do you want to be a faithful witness for Christ? Do you long that when we stand at the judgment, sinners won't point their fingers in our faces?

God help us. God help us. The first way we can witness to this lost and dying generation that's missing repentance is by the power of a holy life. There's no substitute for it. As long as that's the content that the broad-minded intend for, God will have to look to somebody else if he ever blesses this generation.

The Power of a Holy Life

Oh, I'm sick and tired of people calling me a Holy Roman because I preach on Bible holy. Why? I say, that fellow's not a Baptist. Well, brother, you ain't a Baptist if you don't live a holy life. You're a disgrace.

You've got no right to wear the name Baptist if you do not walk in holy bonds of the beast. Brother, I came from a long line of Baptists that sealed their testimony with their blood, and they believed and practiced holy living.

Holy living. How holy are we to be? God says, be ye holy even as I am holy. That's our holy life. Somebody says, I don't believe in that. I know. That's our trouble now. I dream you talk to somebody that don't pay any attention to you.

Who's under conviction, beloved, because of your holy life? That's a serious question. Who's under conviction because they've watched the spotlessness and the purity of your life? I do not speak of Pharisees or having somebody going around looking down on people.

But I speak of people who've fallen out with sin and head over heels in love with Jesus. That's the kind of holy I'm talking about. There's no substitute for it. Brother, there's no substitute for it.

Oh, my God. I am for lack of sin. Holy. In the MP squadron, in the Air Corps and the Army, when I was a chaplain, they tied my hands. The Catholics and the moderns hated me and followed me and tried to keep me from winning in the bodies of the Lord and preaching the gospel.

The good thing is, those chaplains with their worldly living, their booze and their dirty jokes, they preach in the morning and wallow around some filthy movie house the rest of the afternoon, have their cocktails at night.

That was just chaplains in the average, in the Army. And they tied my hands so I couldn't do much. I had an awful time. And so I was limited to gathering about me, mostly, in the Army, a few of God's boys.

You could tell a Christian in the Army, brother, boy, he stuck out. You couldn't tell a Baptist. Most of them were chasing women, shooting crap and getting drunk. But you could tell a Christian. That's right.

I know what I'm talking about. You could tell a Christian. They stuck out. And they still stick out. They still stick out. And I gathered them about me. And I put them to witness. And in 30 days' time, I had one bug fighter in the MP squadron bring 86 soldiers to me.

He said, Preacher, I want you to help me land them for Christ. 86 boys in one month's time. Do you know how he did it? He did it by a godly line. The commanding officer of that MP squadron, that's the toughest in the Army, was a Jew.

And he said, when I have a boy in my squadron I can't do anything with, I'd turn him over to Private Stone. And he said, I don't believe in your Jesus, but I believe in what that boy's got. You can't tell me, young man, all you need to get paid is to go to walking and obedience.

And you can win young men to Christ too. If a bug private in the MP squadron in the Army can bring 86 boys in one month to Jesus, brother, you can bring some too, if God ever masters you. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you the truth.

The power of the Holy. There's no substitute for it. You can't invent something to take it free. I believe in the doctrine of election. But I go a lot of places and find people, they're awful strong on election, but they ain't that strong on holy list.

And I remind them that nobody's elected except people who walk in and hold this. Election is on the holy list. He chose us that we should be made holy and without blame before him. That's right. You all around here say, I'm one of God's elect.

I want to see your garments, brother. They'll be pure if you're one of God. That's right. That's right. The power of the Holy. I remember old Mother Greene. She was enraged in the church I had, the last church I had many years ago out in the state of New Mexico.

And one day in a Sunday morning service, I was led to the Lord, not that anyhow I did it. I said, during the invitation, I said, let's break up this thing a little bit. And I want every man who's here this morning who owes his salvation on the human side to a certain individual.

If that individual cares, I want you to go and stand for that person. And you know, there were 70-some odd men out of that congregation that went over and took old Mother Greene. She was left with her when she was 26 with three children.

And brother, I'm telling you, I don't want one of such characters. She'd walk in a beer joint in my city, and everybody in that beer joint was quick to stand there and respect her. She'd give her testimony.

Nobody made fun of her. I used to take her with me when I'd go off to hold meetings. She'd go see the mayor. She'd go see the business man. She'd go see the postmaster. She'd walk the street. She'd ride on jeans.