Super Glue, BirthStrikes, and the Folly of Feminism

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Non -rockabotas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat, I want to sink it!

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite? We're being delusional. Delusional?

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Yeah. Delusional is okay in your world view. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional.

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So you calling me delusional using your world view is perfectly okay. It doesn't really hurt. Is he hung up on me?

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Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage.

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Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Don't go into the world and make homies.

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Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle neck. That's a joke, pasta.

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When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

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Death and home is your journey, so you will never be the same.

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For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God, or give thanks to him. But they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

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Claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the images, resembling mortal men and birds and animals and creeping things.

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Therefore God gave them up to the lust of their hearts, to impurity, to the dishonor of their bodies among them, because they exchanged the truth about God for lying worship and served the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever.

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Amen. Welcome back to Apologia Radio. We have a bit of a...

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we're short -staffed today. Yeah. It's quiet around here. It's a little more casual show with just me, the bear, and Joy the mama.

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Yeah. Aww. Aww. That's kind of a cute version of that name. I was thinking today that we've known each other a long time.

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I know. Actually, I was thinking about it, I've known you longer than I've known Jeff. I know. Yeah, probably like what, like a year longer?

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Yeah, probably about that or so -ish. About the same, but... Yeah. It's been a while.

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It has been a while. Time goes... Yeah, you were still in high school when I met you. I know. And now look at you, you're married and about to have a child.

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Have a kid. Any moment. Not really. That's a joke, everyone watching.

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So today, yeah, so Jeff is actually in California filming some stuff with Ray Comfort and Living Waters.

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So be watching for that. Two straight days of eight hours of filming. So he's going to be probably without a voice when he gets back.

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Right. So yeah, he's there. Zach Conover is in... Where is he?

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Kauai right now. And Pastor Zach Morgan is somewhere else. I don't know. Working on something.

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It's just the two of us. Yep. Just the two of us. So today

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I figured we would talk about some feminism stuff.

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Not just because it's you and I. But because it was in the news and there was some crazy stuff.

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Oh yeah. There's all kinds of nutties happening. And I was glad that you guys didn't discuss this already on Sheologians, thankfully.

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So we can talk about it. Yeah, sometimes we miss stuff. Yeah. And then we have to record in advance.

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So it's nice to have Apology Radio talk about feminism. Right. Yeah, because usually I'll be like...

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Usually I'll be like, hey, check this out. And someone's like, we did a show on it like a month ago. Where were you? Sorry. Not listening, obviously.

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My wife listens. She doesn't listen to this show. So we'll just get going here because Joy actually has to leave shortly to go to my house to swim with my kids.

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Yeah. So you guys are heading... Yeah, I mean in a few weeks... Yeah, it's nuts around here.

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Yeah, I'll be in Japan. Because you won't be here. Yeah. So I wanted to see your family before I... Yeah, Jeff will be in Virginia next week and then he gets back.

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And then I'll be gone for two weeks. Yeah. In Japan. And then Carmen will be gone. So we won't be able to do anything.

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Yeah, that's true. What are we going to do without Carmen? We'll look at... Isaac's doing this now. I know. We don't even need

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Carmen anymore. I bet Isaac's going to surprise us. He's going to surpass Carmen's abilities. What do you think,

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Isaac? You think you can do that? You probably don't even have your mic turned on. That's okay. I got it turned on. Oh, well we can even have you...

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You can participate in the show. Yeah, I can. See, okay, so I had requested that Isaac be on the show so we had a third host and Carmen pooh -poohed that idea and shut that down immediately.

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Blocked it. Blocked it. But hey, look at that. You got a microphone. He wants Isaac to be ready for when he leaves so that we can keep doing this.

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Feel free to participate there, Isaac Barjona. And if I have any thoughts, I'll provide them.

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Okay. Thank you. So, to get this crazy show off... I don't even know what

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I was going to say. Get it started off the... I don't know what. And I'm like doing like supreme multitasking today because I'm doing usually what

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I do and Jeff does. So, there's some moments where I don't know what I'm doing. Well, and I don't know how many of you guys listening to this are pastors, but I'm not one.

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But I do get to see just how often the phone rings and usually it rings even more when one of the pastors is out of town.

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Yeah, but we've been trying to start the show for like two hours and my phone kept going off. Anyways, so there's probably going to be all kinds of fun comments on the thing today because I'm not paying attention.

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So, anyways... Everyone just behave, okay? Behave. I'm keeping an eye out. If you are a flat earther, you're automatically banned.

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With that note, someone will find a reason to bring up flat earthers. Oh, we're talking about feminists? Well, you're talking about it right now.

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Exactly. So, we're going to bust out the craggle here. Let's get this show started.

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So, I saw this article. This was from the 27th and I believe this occurred in London. And so, we're talking about...

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The title is Radical Protester Superglues Her Breasts to the Street to Fight Climate Change. It didn't work.

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That's the follow -up article. Didn't work. Yeah, it's fine. Didn't work. Nope. So, I don't know what she was hoping to accomplish, but we really just want to talk about the folly of feminism and its ultimate conclusion eventually.

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That was the first thing I saw. I was like, wow, that's dedication. I don't know what she hoped to accomplish.

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Did they interview her at all? I didn't see an interview. Ask her what? No, there was just...

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If you read the article, there's a bunch of people that... I think some people actually superglued themselves to each other and to a wall.

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Why? I don't know. And it was in front of the bank. It was in front of Saks Fifth Avenue, which I think it's in front of in London somewhere.

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Is this like becoming one with the earth type of thing? Yeah, I guess. Where you superglue yourself?

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Yeah, I don't know. They're mad at the bank, so they superglue themselves to one another. It seems like it'd be painful to unglue.

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Yeah, I don't know. I did just see a funny... Usually, our commenters are kind of out of control, but one of our commenters just said, isn't glue made of horses?

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So much for the environment. Well played. Yes, it is, actually. It's made of horse hooves,

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I believe. I mean, I don't know what superglue is made of, but I doubt it's naturally occurring.

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That's a really great point. Thank you for that. Yeah, so she killed... Or she didn't kill the horse, but she used a killed horse.

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A killed horse. A killed horse to superglue her breast to the street. And guess what?

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Didn't stop the climate change. Didn't stop the banks from operating. She may have stopped herself from being able to nurse later to children.

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Yeah, I just feel like that would be really painful. But if she's along with the other people we're talking about today, she may not be worried about nursing children.

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Who knows? Yeah, so it's just these feminists. They continue to amaze me with their stupidity.

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Well, yeah, I haven't seen... I know that there's like a... The feminists are all about the free the nipple thing.

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Am I allowed to say that on this show? Yeah, you are. They're all about trying to create equality in the sense of a male can swim with his shirt off.

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What is the difference between those two things? But I've never heard of someone...

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I don't know what the correlation is between that and climate change. I guess maybe just like a shocking thing to get people's attention.

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Yeah, because it's like she's going to use her lady parts to make a point. But I don't know. I don't know.

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It's got to be leave a scar. To like the asphalt or cement? It's asphalt, yeah. At least the picture looks like it.

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They had to cover her up, it looks like, to remove. Once you do that, what's your plan?

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Just to stay forever? I guess. I am not moving until the farting cows are all removed from the earth.

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Until we kill them all. Yeah, exactly. Oh, okay. Oh, goodness gracious.

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Yeah, so that was the first thing. The crazy glue and how that's related to feminism.

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So moving on from there, I want to talk about the old

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Birthstrike crew. Oh, yeah. So what

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I was alluding to is there was a group of women. And there's actually a YouTube channel, I think, called

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Birthstrike. And they're saying that we're going to go on a strike and not have any children.

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And I say, please don't. Thank you. For the sake of my children, thank you for not continuing your nonsense.

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That was it that I said earlier. When your kids are like, well, I'm not eating dinner.

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And you're like, oh, great. I'm going to eat mine. That won't affect me later. So I'm going to play.

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I got this clip here. It's from American Voices. And it's a bunch of different clips put together.

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But we'll just talk through here. Our planet is in a kind of collapse.

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The natural world is collapsing around us. And that's actually happening right now. Which, I mean, there's zero evidence for that.

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Well, and so another thing that you have to consider with the environmentalism argument is that at the very foundation of it,

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I'm not talking about conservation or stewardship or anything like that. That's a totally different topic.

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Which is actually a biblical idea. But environmentalism, the very root of it is that the

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Earth was here first and that humans are an intrusion on it. So it's an evolutionary belief.

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And it believes that what it states is that humans are the problem here. So what we actually know is that God didn't rest until humans were here.

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In fact, he said to take dominion and subdue the Earth. Which includes good stewardship of the land.

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Right. So, yeah, we're definitely not advocating good stewardship of animals and the planet and all that kind of thing.

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But you're definitely not, foundationally, you can't get there with secular environmentalism because it presupposes that humans are, like that the world would be better if humans weren't here.

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And in the random, chaotic creation of the world as we know it, humans are actually the blight on the planet.

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But that's not, we obviously know that to be false. Right, exactly. And I was trying to find a quote from Joe Boot.

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I couldn't find it, but it's in here somewhere. In the Mission of God. Where he talks about, you know, these sort of people who, ultimately, they worship the

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Earth, right? They worship nature. And that's why I read from Romans 1 there. And that's what you see.

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You see the folly of that where they've been given over to their prey of mind. And so, you know, they literally worship the

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Earth. They worship trees. Right. You know, and this idea of, well, we're not going to bring any more children into the world because it's going to destroy the

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Earth, you know. And that's what they worship. And that's their idolatry. Well, and we also, something that I really find interesting, and obviously

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I'm not a scientist, so I don't know the necessary. This is just me trying to think critically about this.

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A part of me wonders, like, how do we know that the

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Earth can't sustain 10 billion people? Right.

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How do we know that? We don't. We don't know that. So this idea, so if your narrative is that humans are a blight and humans are what's wrong with the, in terms of the destruction of the planet, then obviously the more humans there are, the worse that is.

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But that's, the evidence that you pull out to support that generally doesn't, it's not supported by the

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Bible. And usually the science behind it is debatable, like in terms of climate change and stuff like that.

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Typically you're believing something that you want to believe that fits your version of events, which is that the more humans we have, the less the

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Earth can sustain that. But we don't know that. And I also feel like for the Christian to say that we need to do population control,

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I think there's just sort of a lack of faith in God's sovereignty, especially if you're a post -millennialist.

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Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Well, we've talked about how the whole idea of climate change, they continually change the term.

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It used to be global warming, and then all of a sudden it started to cool down. And like, oh, I guess we better change it to climate change.

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And it's like, yeah, the climate change is over time it heats up and cools down, heats up and cools down.

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And there's a history of that. But this whole idea of climate change being some negative thing that we're destroying the

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Earth is just stupid. Well, because much of the climate historically has like we haven't like humans have observed it, but they haven't observed it in like a scientific way where they wrote it down and they were like today, you know, they weren't, you know, marking temperatures and things like that.

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So that's all based on the presumption of what the environment was like at one point and how it has changed up until this point.

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Yeah. And I actually was reading I forgot to pull the article up, forgive me, but there was an article I was reading.

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And it was saying that there was a there was one glacier, a pretty significant glacier that was shrinking.

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And that's why they were saying global warming all that was shrinking. But now it's actually growing again and expanding.

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Right. Yeah. So we actually that's just since we are observing it's like, oh, I guess we had that wrong.

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Well, in an evolutionary model, that's what you see. What you have to see a lot. That's how a lot of the science is done is that you have to, you have to make an, and they're not saying it's not an educated judgment on what the environment used to look like.

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I mean, that's debatable, but they do science and things like that. And they, they figure out what they think it looked like back then, but ultimately it's still what they think it looked like back then, billions of years ago.

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And according to them, there was no humans to observe it. Like, so how could you possibly like, how could you really know with any certainty?

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Plus all these people that complain about overpopulation and I'm like, you've never driven through Texas, have you?

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Are you driven from Phoenix to Salt Lake city? Cause there's not, there's a whole lot of empty land, you know, just, just nothing.

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So I don't want to hear overpopulation. There's plenty of space, at least in our nation. There's plenty of space to expand if we need to.

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Well, and in terms of, I don't know. I just think that it's not, it's not, it's certainly not a, it's definitely a secular view for you to say, oh, well, resources could be limited and blah, blah, blah.

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And so -and -so because we actually are supposed to be here. Like God made it that way.

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So, you know, obviously if you're suppressing the truth and unrighteousness and you don't believe in God, or you say you don't believe in God, then that doesn't mean much to you.

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But certainly for the Christian, this shouldn't, this shouldn't be too hard.

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Anything that presupposes that, that humans were not supposed to be here and then if they weren't here, it would be a better place is not biblical.

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Right. Yeah, exactly. And - That's like in the beginning stuff. Yeah. That's like from the very beginning of the revealed world.

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Literally from the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. And I've even seen studies. I know like in Europe and I saw specifically

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Italy. I know for sure. Like they've because the, they're having so few children that they're saying that the, they're able to like, like calculate trends, you know?

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And they're saying that like, you know, a lot of Europe is going to like just die out because they're not making enough children.

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Right. And I, I've, I've heard of studies that have said that us is, is not that far behind.

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Yeah. It's like a certain amount. Each family needs to have a median amount of children in order for the population to continue.

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Yeah, exactly. And we're missing that, which the environmentalists would say, good. We need some time without any humans, but.

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Right. Well, that's what, that's what we're getting. That's what we're going to get into here. Since we brought up, we'll go ahead and talk about. So like,

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I've said this before. And you, it's funny. Cause when I think of the clips, you said the exact same thing. It's like these feminists, the, the pro pro choicers, the, the homosexual agenda, all that, you know, because we're post -millennial because we look longterm, we're like, we're, they're going to die out eventually.

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Right. And that's not, yeah, that's not, we're not being mean. No, they just people who promote not having kids don't have kids.

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Right. So who are you going to pass your belief onto of not pop, like not repopulating.

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If, if you, if you and your, if you're a man and your husband, you guys can't procreate.

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Right. You can't do it. And so there's not like, and it's certainly not a reason to just be like,

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Oh, whatever they're going to be gone. Yeah. But it's like, it's not even a, it's, it's not even sustainable.

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So like they would have the, the end game. That was not an Avengers reference.

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I wanted to talk about the end game here is that the earth would exist undisturbed with no humans on it.

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Yeah. That, and that's for all, everything for, for people who are against procreation for people who can't procreate.

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That's the best case scenario is that it would just be, a world full of animals and plants.

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Yeah. And that's it. And we, and honestly, like people, the ignorance in that is that you don't even understand the type of effect that, so we focus on the negative impact of humans on animals and plants.

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But that being said, there's tons of, there's tons of positive impact that humans have had on animals and plants.

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And here, and, and even if there wasn't, we're still supposed to be here.

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I mean, shame, shame on people for promoting bad stewardship and for just, you know,

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I mean, we're not getting into an environmentalist conversation here, but we're still supposed to be here.

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No matter what you say, you cannot convince me that, that humans just got here by accident.

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And what a shame that was. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, evolution, I guess you can go with that, but well, the rule in evolution says that if you don't procreate, that your fitness is not very high and you shouldn't be.

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That's true. Yeah. No, you're right. That's, this is a very anti evolutionary. I would venture to say, and you know,

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I would venture to say that, uh, fitness would also involve, not involve you gluing yourself to other things like the road where cars drive.

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Right. So I wonder if somebody to go scrape up her skin. Uh, I don't know.

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I feel like it probably took, maybe they have like a solution or something. Yeah. Acid. Um, so yeah, but I mean, this is why, this is why it's having such, having a,

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I bet humans made that, that stuff that, uh, but you're right. It got her off that pavement.

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Why have an optimistic, uh, eschatology matters though, because you know, it's again, because we're thinking longterm.

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It's like, yeah, we, we have, we do have hope. I know a lot of Christians, you know, that don't have that position that see stuff like this.

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And it's, you know, like the end of the world's here and there's no hope. And you know, they're looking for the rapture and it's like, no, we're going to outlive this.

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And God's, uh, God, Christ is going to be victorious over this, right?

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This will eventually be put under his feet. Um, so, so to me, in my eyes, yes, we need to fight against this.

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Yes. We need to stand up for truth. And, um, but, you know, eventually it's going to be overcome because of the sheer, uh, folly of it because they're not reproducing and, and they're just going to die out.

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So, right. There was a, what is it? Um, I don't know where it's at.

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Ephesians five, maybe, or it talks about, um, like not taking part in unfruitful works or like dark works, but like exposing them.

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Yeah, exactly. Good call. So next in this clip is our, uh, all of our favorite, uh,

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Democrat nut job, AOC, AOC, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

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She is, she's oodles of fun, isn't she? She is something buckets of fun.

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Okay. Well, I mean, she's got some confidence or something behind her. She just doesn't stop.

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So let's see what she has to say here. Millennials and people and you know, Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we're like, the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.

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And that, um, that would be a end times prophecy just for the record is what that was. We'll see if she gets it wrong.

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Guess what? Um, unsafe people also love end times prophecy. Yes. Yeah.

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12 years y 'all 12 years. So that's why we're not having children because the world's going to end in 12 years.

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Okay. Here's another lady from England. And he might wildlife around the world. And I realized that most of it was actually just in a state of emergency.

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Our planet. We're in a state of emergency. Yeah. Mm hmm. Too many humans.

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Yeah. Too many humans. Okay. Here's some more AOC. It's going to be a disaster. Well, so it's basically like there's scientific consensus that the lives of children.

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No, there's not going to be very difficult. And it does lead, I think young people to have a legitimate question, you know, should, is it okay to still have children?

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Really? So I want to say quickly, I think I was, I think it was cross politic.

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I was listening to, and they were talking about her and her, her green new deal, which was just stupid to saying,

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I mentioned farting cows earlier. Like she wants to eliminate the cows because their flatulence are destroying the environment.

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It's like, it's so they were, they brought up a good point. What, what she is essentially is asking for is for us to go back to like, you know, have 40 acres and a farm and a donkey and, you know, mill our own stuff and eliminate.

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She doesn't exist in that world. Right. Well, that's, that's exactly what it's like. It's like these millennials, these snowflake, you know, nut jobs that want this stuff.

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It's like, you don't even know what work is. You couldn't survive because you haven't done an ounce of hard work in your life.

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Well, and it's just, I don't know. I think that it's, it's definitely like an important conversation worth having.

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Because obviously there are certain things, there are certain things that, that have happened on this earth that maybe wouldn't be considered good stewardship.

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Yeah. But at the same time, like, what is the purpose of this earth?

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Why is it here? Humans are supposed to be here. And so it's very easy to say like,

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Oh, like, you know, we've, we've, we've started using like improper farming practices and we've done all these things.

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And it's like, well, how do we know, how do we know how much of what has affected the innovation that's also occurred because of humans, because I haven't seen any cows or horses or anything coming up with a way to contact people in China when you're in the

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United States. I haven't seen any of them working on that. Right. And you're talking about medical advances.

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You're talking about, I mean, even just in terms of like travel innovation, being able to.

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So yeah, people would say like, Oh, you shouldn't, you shouldn't buy these certain kinds of fruits because they're put on a truck and they drive all this way and they like produce all this, this stuff into the air and all this stuff.

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And it's like, yeah, but those grocery stores are feeding more people than ever. Like there was a time where you would starve if you had no, if you're like, if there was a drought or your crop was bad, you didn't have any food.

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Right. And so in a way, like there is, we have to be careful that we are not leaning to the side of if humans just hadn't come here, all of this would have been great because there's also things there's, there's, there's stuff that doesn't necessarily exist.

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Like a tomato, as you know, it may have not come into existence if we just let the world go.

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And there had never been any humans here. So it's really not. It's a, it's totally a secular view to think it's just, like I said, have the conversation.

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It's a fun conversation to have actually. And Matthew and I have had this conversation, my husband and I have had this conversation a lot.

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He's a weed eater. Yeah. Literally. Cause he loves being outside. I like it too.

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I love, I love going to places where humans aren't at and they haven't thrown their trash and they haven't, you know, done all that stuff.

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But, but we certainly can't, we can't say that human, like in order for this earth to be good, to be very good, that we like take humans off the planet.

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Right. And we just eliminate it altogether. Right. It's like even this video I'm watching of her, you know, it's like a, it's like a

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Facebook live thing or something. And there's no science behind what she's saying. Oh no. She's not supporting her.

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She's saying something that's very popular. Right. And producing no science. Right. Good.

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Yeah. Like even the technology to do what she's doing in the video to get her point across, you know, as she's chopping this onion, which

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I kept waiting for her to slip and like cut a finger off or something. But yeah, it's like even you, so what you want is the technology to get across your, your environmentalism.

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You want that to be gone too. And I actually, I saw something funny. It's not funny.

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It's true, but it's funny cause it is true. But you know, she just released this film on Netflix.

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I haven't watched it yet. I don't know if you saw it. I don't even know what it's about something. It's probably about socialism or something.

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And yeah, it is about socialism. And they're like, the article was saying how she's using capitalism to spread. Right. Use on socialism.

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Yep. Which we talked about with Bernie and all that, but it's just funny. It's like, you guys just, just shut up.

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Right. Just like with, if you hit, if you were in a, in a socialist, like a full socialist, like decades deep socialist country, like you wouldn't be having this conversation.

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there wouldn't be Netflix. With the nation right now. There'd be, there'd be Netflix with five videos that we have to watch and that's it.

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And everyone gets Netflix and there's five videos. And it's all the same. Okay.

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Moving on to this video here. Important to, to tell the public that there are people out there that are so scared about this, that they feel that they can't actually have a family.

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So I don't, there might be like five of them. Maybe that burst direct channel on YouTube. I noticed there was like 95 subscribers.

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Oh, which maybe there's a separate one, but that's the one that popped up. And I was like, but anyways, there's still, there's not a lot of,

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I don't think there's a lot of women that are like, we need to go on this birth strike. There's a few nutty ones. Like you saw the one video.

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I, I couldn't find, I was looking for it. The one there are two ladies in their chairs and they're like doing all this like weird hand motion.

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Anyways. Okay. So then it moves to some clips from some morning talk show.

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I don't know what show it is. Birth strike. How about this for a strike? These are a group of women who have partners who are married, right?

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Who form an organization because of climate change. I feel very strongly. Do I want to bring my kid into this world?

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So guess what I'm going to do? I'm not going to have one until the world takes climate change.

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Seriously. I can't. Again, please don't just don't. Thank you.

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No, I mean, no one's making you have any kids. I mean, I fundamentally disagree with what you're saying, but yeah, no, no one's making you have kids.

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I would also mention that the, I don't necessarily have a problem with you. I feel like I feel very bad that you're lost and you consider that as your opinion of children.

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But my, my, my issue wouldn't necessarily be with you deciding to not have children.

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It's like, if you conceive a child, what is your next step then? Right. Is it,

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I mean, cause the world considers it more loving to kill a child that will be affected by climate change maybe in 12 years than to have one.

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So I just, there's some, there's some presuppositions I have a problem with. Certainly everyone who's birth striking is not having an abortion, but I would say that it's probably one of the devices.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even they might even take it a step further and say, well, this child is going to be a plight on the earth.

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Right. Not even, not even like there are human beings that think humans are the worst thing that ever happened.

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And it's like, why are you still here then? Like, I don't mean to be glib, but nobody is that nobody is consistent enough to remove themselves from this earth.

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Right. So that the earth can be a better place. It's not even that they're concerned about how hard it will be on the child.

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They're concerned about how hard the child will be on the earth. Right. I would, until I am absolutely convinced that we are on a seriously, seriously different path.

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It's like, we need a universal sense of urgency and people are trying to like introduce watered down proposals that are frankly going to kill us.

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I came to the decision that I couldn't bring a child into that. Um, and I was asking around, people that I know put it a little bit out on Facebook and realized actually quite a lot of other people are making this decision.

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So aside from the ecological breakdown, we're heading into this world that none of us are equipped for.

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I just, I don't even understand that. This is, this is not a new argument also, by the way.

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I mean, the climate change portion of it is a little bit newer, but there are people that have been saying for a very, very long time.

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And I will mention that it kind of started happening around the time of the sexual revolution. Um, but people started saying like, why would

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I want to bring a kid into this messed up world? Um, that's not the biblical mandate.

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No. Um, so that's a secular view. Um, that should, if you're a

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Christian, that can't be your view. It just can't. Um, and if it is, you should ask

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God to change. Yeah. Well, no, Paul teaches that, uh, you know, crisis,

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Christ, uh, is going to reconcile all things to himself. And we, we as Christians have been given that ministry of reconciliation.

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So we are actually to procreate and to reconcile this world back to him.

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So that means taking dominion over it. That means, um, you know, making it a better place to live, um, eliminating nonsense like these people are saying.

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So you're, you're right. It's literally the exact opposite of what they're saying. Some point, these chronic realities do reach a breaking point.

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And I think for our generation, it's reached that. This is a serious strike. This is. And one of the people said,

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I know. And one of the people there said, I, I do have a partner. I would love to have children with him.

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So it's not people who don't want to have kids that are just using excuse, but we're really in love.

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And it feels like the right thing to do. And I totally understand. All right. We're so in love, but we're not going to have kids because the world's dying.

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All right. It's just like a secular virtue signaling. It's like, look at how much

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I care about the earth. I care about people. I don't want to participate in ending the earth. Right. So I'm not going to continue the earth.

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Right. I mean, uh, speculate all you want about climate change, but scientifically

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I do know of one way for the earth to stop. Working. And that is for people to not have any children anymore.

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I mean, that is, you can speculate about the science behind climate change, but we definitely know for sure that human life will cease to exist.

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And everyone stops having kids. So that's, that's one way. That's just, that's just how it is.

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If you really don't want to end the world for humanity, the answer is not to stop having kids because there is no humanity without humans.

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So, right. You know, it's, I'm, I'm just sitting here thinking of, uh, speaking of Avengers, I'm not going to talk about end game cause

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Joy hasn't seen it, but infinity war, which I believe you saw. I did. If you haven't seen infinity war by now, sorry.

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Um, you should see it. Um, yeah, there's no spoiler. There's a, you know, there's the point where, where Thanos, when he essentially steals

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Gomorrah, right. And he killed half of her planet. Right.

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And that's like his mission is to kill half of every planet and his mind. That's, um, being gracious and showing mercy because, you know, then no one's going to go hungry and, and, and all that.

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And it's, it's kind of the same, it's kind of the same thought process. You know, it's like, well, if we, if half of us stopped having kids and that means the other half of us, that means there's more jobs.

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And that's when there's more, even though all that's ever happened throughout history is expansion.

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Like the more people we've had on the planet, the more we've expanded technology, the more we've expanded industry, the more we've expanded our resources.

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Like I'm not saying we've done it perfectly all the way along the line, but we, there's nothing to suggest that, that, that we won't expand with more people.

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That's all we've ever done. Right. So you're giving up a thing that, you know, to be true that you've experienced.

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And for, for people who are all about observable science, you're willing to give that up for the speculation about the next 12 years.

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Right. And climate change. Yeah, exactly. So back to this lady, let's see here.

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So she's saying climate change now needs to be a part of every decision made. Every decision.

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Most include the discussion on climate change. I understand why this is hard for people like my mom to understand is this is now at such a crunch time that this needs to affect every decision in our lives.

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Now a lack of urgency. I think it might be hard for your mom to understand because she's a sane person.

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Well, and she had you like you, if she had decided to do what you're doing, you would not exist to say these words.

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You wouldn't be around for the interview. Right. Okay. More AOC here. He's going to kill us.

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It doesn't matter if you agree that climate change is an important issue.

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At this point, it doesn't matter. And I'm so disappointed by the response by authorities to this crisis.

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And so freaked out by it. It's not enough for me to hear that we'll maybe meet this target or that these things might be happening.

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I need to see it. I can bring someone else into it until we all start pitching in and holding people accountable.

38:30

I'm just going to let them have it. You think she'll get, do you think she'll make it through one term or make it to a second term?

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I don't know. I think there's a lot of people that dislike her. Yeah. Even people that would like consider themselves on her side.

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Right. She's also had a lot of, she's had a lot of like flubs. Like where people like fact checking has just not been good and stuff like that.

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I don't know. Like I'm, I'm not against like a female millennial knowing what they're talking about, but is she right.

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I kind of wish that she, she's not, she sort of embodies that millennial idea, which is like half knowing about something and then speaking like you're an expert on it.

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Maybe not even half knowing. She may half know it, but yeah, I was mostly talking about internet people.

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Well, I, you know, she, she fits right into that category. Right. Um, so, um, yeah, as a millennial, that is a, what is an unfortunate part.

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When do you officially become a millennial? Am I out of that? Yeah, you're out of it. Yeah. I think the oldest is this year.

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The oldest would be like 34, 35 or something like that.

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Good. I don't know for sure. That's right. Um, I know I'm like somewhere in the middle.

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I know that's how I gauge it. I'm like kind of in the middle of the, the range.

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Gotcha. But I think that the, like the higher ranges is, uh, not so nutty.

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Yeah. It's like this, the bottom. Yeah. You get the little mix and then the bottom half. Yeah. Goodness gracious. You got a millennial mixed with,

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I forget what the next generation is called, but oh my gosh. Okay. So I know

40:23

George got to get going. So I'm just going to close out here with this. Um, this video popped up. Uh, my wife sent it to me yesterday, actually.

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Um, so this is from students for life of America. And so there was a, um,

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I guess it's a, a, a make, make believe or makeshift. It's obviously not a real graveyard, but it's a graveyard with a bunch of pink crosses that they set up.

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They were supposed to represent, uh, aborted babies. Right. So, um,

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I think it's a cool idea. So they, they set this up. And, um, so then these, these Planned Parenthood supporters, uh, come marching through and like stepping on the crosses and like flaunting.

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Um, and so I'm just going to play this quickly. Just again, this is kind of like, just, I want to show the extent of like, like where, when you go all in on feminism and all in on, you know, the

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AOC stuff, like where this takes you. Um, so here we go. Um, by the way, if you have children, you may not want them to hear this.

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There's, it's hard here. And I think there might be some language. Okay. So first thing there was girls walking through this graveyard, holding their signs up screaming.

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I had an abortion. Now the one that they just played, cause obviously you can't see it. This, this girl's walking through and pointing down at the crosses and there's mine.

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Yeah. I'm not like bragging. Like that's, that's my abortion right there. My question when

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I hear that is where's your dad? Where's your father at? Unfortunately, he may have condoned that.

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Yeah. Unfortunately. Now I don't, I mean, I don't know that for sure, but no,

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I know. I hear you. I mean, that's the problem. A lot of this is, is not good. Strong.

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Uh, uh, fathers for sure. I know the feminists don't want to hear that. No, no, not at all.

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Okay. It looks like we have an officer, a couple of officers on site.

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Fringing on your fucking free speech. Are we stopping you from talking? I can't hear y 'all.

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When I say say parenthood, plan, parenthood, plan, fetuses, aborted, fetuses, aborted, fetuses.

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I had an abortion. Shout out to Planned Parenthood.

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For all the women out there, I am so sorry that you have decided to become oops.

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Sorry. So I'll just stop there.

43:52

So if you didn't catch that, she said, what if we peed in this fetus graveyard? Um, so again, this just, you know, it goes back to the

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Romans one. Yeah. They've been given over to depraved mind. You know, what is, is foolishness becomes truth.

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And what is truth becomes a folly. And, you know, it's literally flipped upside down.

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Um, and this is, this is where this, this worldview in this line of thought and reasoning and logic and morality brings you to, and they're not even doing it for climate change.

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No, they just did it cause they wanted to. Yeah. Um, yeah. And it's really, um,

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I mean, the very, so we should, nobody should be surprised by this kind of behavior.

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We should, we can still be like appalled by it. We can still expose it for what it is. Um, but they,

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I don't know. I'm sort of, I've sort of just, I've had this thought, um, talking to not just feminists or whatever you'd consider these ladies.

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Um, but even in terms of people that are a part of cults, um, things like that, um, that think it just kind of makes me sad.

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There are people, there are many, many people that think they are going to stand. Well, they don't think they're going to stand before God, but right in a world where they stood before God, they think that they would proudly stand before him and say,

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I got an abortion. And that just won't be that way. You know, like people will stand, like people stand before God and they think that they'll say like, you know,

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I follow the beliefs of so and so, or I believe in this God. Yeah. And like, so what?

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But we, the truth is we just will have no pride at all. All right. Before Holy God.

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Um, and it's, it's really sad. It's really misled.

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Um, babies are dying. Obviously these women are proud of something that is abhorrent and that I hope in, um, the next few decades we look at and wonder like, yeah, what the heck?

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Yeah. I know. Hopefully if, if God spares any mercy on us, we'll be able to look back and, you know, like we look back at the, at the slaveholders and say, man, right.

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That's done with, you know, you know, but who knows? God could, we, we've always say this, we're, we're in God judgment now.

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So he could very well destroy this nation. Well, it's a nasty stuff we're doing.

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I mean, historically speaking, like the number one sign of a, of a leading front country, uh, falling is, uh, not having children anymore.

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Yeah. That's just kind of what it is. And obviously there's multiple reasons why people, people are choosing not to have kids.

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It's all under this umbrella of choice. Um, and obviously like, if there's no conception, then there's no murder taking place.

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We would disagree with your reasoning behind not having kids. Um, but certainly in this instance, um, we have people standing in the open air.

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This is what our society is. People standing in public space, proud of the murder they committed.

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Yeah. Um, yeah. Can you even imagine? It'd be,

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I mean, it'd be like if, if we went to like a graveyard, you know, of like slaves or something.

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Right. You know, and we just, you know, like, can I pee on those on the slave graveyard? Like I had a slave, you know?

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It's just like, Oh, it's really appalling. It's crazy. So on that note, um, this, this music actually reminded me that I, I was hoping to have a special guest on the day, but he could not be here, but I think he may be here next week.

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Oh yeah. So I'm not going to say who, though. It's going to be a surprise. Um, so yeah, so we'll, we'll be back next week and, uh, please be praying for pastor

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Monday. Oh, so you won't be on next week then? Yeah, no. So I'll meet you guys next week. The next few episodes, you guys will see sort of just a rotation of people.

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I was like, you want to be on? He's like, no, it's not everyone's thing. Okay, fine. Um, so anyways.

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It takes me a while. Oh, okay. Yeah, it went, uh, it went well. You guys did good. Good. All right, bro.

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Thank you, man. Isaac doing a great job. Uh, all right. He made it.

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