Super Glue, BirthStrikes, and the Folly of Feminism

Non-rockabotas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat, I want to sink it!

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite? We're being delusional.

Yeah, I love you, Jeff.

Delusional?

Delusional is OK in your world view. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your world view is perfectly OK.

It doesn't really hurt.

Is he hung up on me?

What? What? What?

Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage.

Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives.

Right.

Don't go into the world and make homies.

Right.

Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle, Nick. That's a joke, master.

When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

For although they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the images, resembling mortal men and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up to the lust of their hearts, to impurity, to the dishonor of their bodies among them, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie in worship and served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever.

Amen. Welcome back to Apologia Radio.

We have a bit of a,.

We're short staffed today.

Yeah.

It's a little more casual show with just me, the bear, and Joy the mama.

Yeah.

Aw. Aw.

That's kind of a cute version of that name.

I was thinking today that we've known each other a long time.

I know.

Actually, I was thinking about, I've known you longer than I've known Jeff.

I know.

Yeah, probably like what, like a year, year longer?

Yeah, probably about that or so-ish. About the same, but.

Yeah.

Anywho.

It's been a while.

It has been a while.

Time goes.

Yeah, you were still in high school when I met you.

I know.

And now look at you, you're married.

And about to have a child.

Have a kid. Any moment.

Not really.

That's a joke, everyone watching. So today, yeah, so Jeff is actually in California filming some stuff with Ray Comfort and Living Waters. He'll be watching for that. Two straight days of eight hours of filming.

So he's going to be probably without a voice when he gets back.

Right.

So yeah, he's there. Zach Conover is in, where is he? Quiet right now. Pastor Zach Morgan is somewhere else.

I don't know.

Working on something.

It's just the two of us. Just the two of us. So today, I figured we would talk about some feminism stuff. Not just because it's you and I, but because it was in the news and there was some crazy stuff.

Oh yeah, there's all kinds of nutties.

Happening.

And I was glad that you guys didn't discuss this already on Sheologians, thankfully, so we can talk about it.

Yeah, sometimes we miss stuff.

And then,.

Like when we have to record in advance. So it's nice to have Apology Radio talk about feminism.

Yeah, because usually I'll be like, usually I'll be like, hey, check this out. And someone's like, we did a show on it like a month ago.

Where were you?

Sorry.

Not listening, obviously.

My wife listens. She doesn't listen to this show. But so, yeah, so we'll just get going here. Because Joy actually has to leave shortly to go to my house to swim with my kids.

So you guys are headed, yeah, I mean in a few weeks. Yeah, it's nuts around here.

Yeah, I'll be in Japan.

Because you won't be here. So I wanted to see your family.

Yeah, Jeff will be in Virginia next week. And then he gets back. And then I'll be gone for two weeks.

Yeah.

In Japan.

And then Carmen will be gone. So we won't be able to do anything.

Yeah, that's true.

What are we going to do without Carmen?

Oh, well, look it. Isaac's doing this now.

I know.

We don't even need Carmen anymore.

I bet Isaac's going to surprise us.

He's going to surpass Carmen's abilities. What do you think, Isaac?

You think you can do that?

You probably don't even have your mic turned on. That's okay. I got it turned on. Oh, well, we can even have you. You can participate in the show. Yeah, I can. See, okay, so I had requested that Isaac be on the show.

So we had a third host. And Carmen pooh-poohed that idea. And shut that down immediately.

Blocked it.

Blocked it. But hey, look at that.

You got a microphone. He wants Isaac to be ready for when he leaves. So that we can keep doing this.

Feel free to participate there, Isaac Barjona. If I have any thoughts, I'll provide them.

Okay.

Thank you. So to get this crazy show off. I don't know what I was going to say. Get it started off the I don't know what. And I'm like doing like supreme multitasking today. Because I'm doing usually what I do and Jeff does.

So there's some moments where I don't know what I'm doing.

Well, and I don't know how many of you guys listening to this are pastors. But I'm not one. But I do get to see just how often the phone rings. And usually it rings even more when one of the pastors is out of town.

Yeah, but we've been trying to start the show for like two hours. My phone kept going off. Anyways, so if yeah, so there's probably going to be all kinds of fun comments on the thing today. Because I'm not paying attention.

So anyways.

Everyone just behave, okay?

Behave.

I'm keeping an eye out.

If you are flat earther, you're automatically banned. Just you know. With that note, someone will find a reason to bring up flat earth. Oh, we're talking about Femex?

Well, you're talking about it right now.

Exactly.

So we're going to bust out the craggle here. Let's get this show. Get this show started. So I saw this article. This was from the 27th. And I believe this occurred in London. And so we're talking about it.

The title is Radical Protester Superglues Her Breasts to the Street to Fight Climate Change.

It didn't work. That's the follow up article.

Didn't work.

Nope.

So I don't know what she was hoping to accomplish. But we really just want to talk about the folly of feminism and its ultimate conclusion. Eventually. So yeah. So that was the first thing I saw. I was like, wow, that's, I mean, that's dedication.

I don't know what she hoped to accomplish.

Did they interview her at all?

I didn't see an interview.

Ask her what?

No, there was just, if you read the article, there's a bunch of people that I think they had actually, some people actually superglued themselves to each other and to a wall.

Why?

I don't know. And it was in front of the bank. It was front of Saks Fifth Avenue, which I think this is in, I think it's in front of London, in London somewhere.

Is this like becoming one with the earth type of thing?

Yeah, I guess.

Where you superglue yourself?

Yeah, I don't know. They're mad at the bank, so they superglue themselves to one another. Yeah, I don't know.

It seems like it'd be painful to unglue.

Yeah, I don't know.

I did just see a funny, usually our commenters are kind of out of control, but one of our commenters just said, Isn't glue made of horses? So much for the environment.

Well played. Yes, it is actually. It's made of horse hooves, I believe.

I mean, I don't know what superglue is made of, but I doubt it's naturally occurring.

That's a really great point. Yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, so she killed, or she didn't kill the horse, but she used a killed horse, killed horse, to superglue her breast to the street. And guess what?

Didn't stop the climate change. Didn't stop the banks from operating. She may have stopped herself from being able to nurse later to children.

Yeah, I just feel like that would be really painful.

But if she's along with the other people we're talking about today, she may not be worried about nursing children.

Who knows?

Yeah, so it's just these feminists, they continue to amaze me with their stupidity.

Yeah, I haven't seen, I know that there's like a, the feminists are all about the like free the nipple thing. Am I allowed to say that on this show? They're all about, you know, like trying to create equality in the sense of like a male can swim with his shirt off.

Like what is the difference between those two things? But I've never heard of someone, I don't know what the correlation is between that and climate change. I guess maybe just like a shocking thing to get people's attention.

Yeah, because it's like she's going to use her lady parts to make a point. And, but I don't know. I don't know. Just gotta believe a star.

To like the asphalt or cement?

It's asphalt, yeah. At least the picture looks like it. They had to cover her up, it looks like, to remove. Remove, I don't know what you would use.

Well yeah, once you do that, like what's your plan? Just to stay forever?

I guess. I am not moving in cell.

I'm here now.

Until the farting cows are all removed from the earth.

Until we kill them all.

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, okay.

Oh, goodness gracious. Yeah, so that was the first thing. That's the crazy glue and how that's related to feminism. So moving on from there, I want to talk about the old birth strike crew.

Oh, yeah.

So what I was alluding to is there was a group of women, and there's actually a YouTube channel I think called Birth Strike, and they're saying that we're not going to, we're going to go on strike and not have any children.

And I say, please don't. Thank you. For the sake of my children, thank you for not continuing your nonsense.

Oh, is this what I said earlier? You know, like when your kids are like, well, I'm not eating dinner. And you're like, oh, great. I'm going to eat mine. That won't affect me later.

Right.

So I'm going to play. I got this clip here. It's from American Voices, and it's a bunch of different clips put together. But we'll just talk through here.

Our planet is in a kind of collapse. The natural world is collapsing around us, and that's actually happening right now.

Which, I mean, there's like zero evidence for that.

Well, and so another thing that you have to consider with the environmentalism argument is that at the very foundation of it, I'm not talking about like conservation or stewardship or anything like that.

That's a totally different topic.

Which is actually a biblical idea.

But environmentalism, the very root of it is that the earth was here first and that humans are an intrusion on it. So it's an evolutionary belief. And it believes that like what it states is that humans are the problem here.

So what we actually know is that God didn't rest until humans were here. In fact, he said to take dominion and subdue the earth.

Which includes good stewardship of the land.

Right.

So yeah, we're definitely not advocating good stewardship of animals and the planet and all that kind of thing. But you're definitely not... Foundationally, you can't get there with secular environmentalism.

Because it presupposes that humans are... Like that the world would be better if humans weren't here. And in the random chaotic creation of the world as we know it, humans are actually the blight on the planet.

Right.

But that's not... We obviously know that to be false.

Right, exactly. And I was trying to find a quote from Joe Boot. I couldn't find it, but it's in here somewhere. In the Mission of God. Where he talks about these sort of people who... Ultimately, they worship the earth, right?

They worship nature. And that's why I read from Romans 1 there. And that's what you see. You see the folly of that. Where they've been given over to their prey of mine. They literally worship the earth.

They worship trees. And this idea of, well, we're not going to bring any more children into the world. Because it's going to destroy the earth. And that's what they worship. And that's their idolatry.

Well, and we also... Something that I really find interesting. And obviously, I'm not a scientist. So, I don't know the necessary... This is just me trying to think critically about this. A part of me wonders...

How do we know that the earth can't sustain 10 billion people?

Right.

How do we know that?

We don't.

We don't know that. So, this idea... So, if your narrative is that humans are a blight. And humans are what's wrong with... In terms of the destruction of the planet.

Right.

Then obviously, the more humans there are, the worse that is. But that's the evidence that you pull out to support that. Generally, it's not supported by the Bible. And usually, the science behind it is debatable.

In terms of climate change and stuff like that. Typically, you're believing something that you want to believe. That fits your version of events. Which is that the more humans we have, the less the earth can sustain that.

But we don't know that. And I also feel like for the Christian to say that we need to do population control... I think there's just sort of a lack of faith in God's sovereignty. Especially if you're a post-millennialist.

Yeah, exactly. Well, we've talked about how the whole idea of climate change... They continually change the term. It used to be global warming. And then all of a sudden, it started to cool down. And like, oh, I guess we better change it to climate change.

Yeah, the climate change is... Over time, it heats up and cools down. Heats up and cools down. And there's a history of that. This whole idea of climate change being some negative thing that we're destroying the earth...

It's just stupid.

Well, because much of the climate, historically... Humans have observed it. But they haven't observed it in a scientific way. Where they wrote it down. And they were like, today... They weren't marking temperatures and things like that.

So that's all based on the presumption of what the environment was like at one point. And how it has changed up until this point.

Yeah, and I actually was reading... I forgot to pull the article up. Forgive me. But there was an article I was reading. And it was saying that there was one glacier... A pretty significant glacier that was shrinking.

And that's why they were saying global warming and all that was shrinking. But now it's actually growing again and expanding. So we actually... That's just... Since we are observing it. It's like, oh, I guess we had that wrong.

Well, and in the evolutionary model, that's what you see. What you have to see a lot. That's how a lot of the science is done. Is that you have to make an... And I'm not saying it's not an educated judgment on what the environment used to look like.

I mean, that's debatable. But they do science and things like that. And they figure out what they think it looked like back then. But ultimately, it's still what they think it looked like back then. Billions of years ago.

And according to them, there was no humans to observe it. So how could you possibly... How could you really know with any certainty?

Plus all these people that complain about overpopulation. And I'm like, you've never driven through Texas, have you? Or you've never driven from Phoenix to Salt Lake City. Because there's a whole lot of empty land.

You know, just nothing. So I don't want to hear overpopulation. There's plenty of space. At least in our nation, there's plenty of space to expand if we need to.

Well, and in terms of... I don't know. I just think that it's not... It's certainly not... It's definitely a secular view for you to say,. Oh, well, resources could be limited.

And blah, blah, blah.

And so and so. Because we actually are supposed to be here. Like, God made it that way. So, you know, obviously, if you're suppressing the truth in unrighteousness and you don't believe in God, or you say you don't believe in God, then that doesn't mean much to you.

But certainly for the Christian, this shouldn't be too hard. Anything that presupposes that humans were not supposed to be here and that if they weren't here, it would be a better place is not biblical.

Right.

Yeah, exactly.

That's like in the beginning stuff. That's like from the very beginning of the revealed world.

Literally from the beginning. Yeah, and I've even seen studies. I know like in Europe, and I saw specifically Italy, I know for sure. Because they're having so few children that they're able to calculate trends.

And they're saying that a lot of Europe is going to just die out because they're not making enough children. And I've heard of studies that have said the U .S. is not that far behind.

Yeah, it's like a certain amount. Each family needs to have a median amount of children in order for the population to continue.

Yeah, exactly.

And we're missing that, which the environmentalists would say, good, we need some time without any humans.

Right.

Well, that's what we're going to get into here. Since we brought it up, we'll go ahead and talk about it. I've said this before. And it's funny because when I sang at the Eclipse, you said the exact same thing.

It's like these feminists, the pro-choicers, the homosexual agenda, all that. Because we're post-millennial, because we look long-term, we're like, they're going to die out eventually.

Right.

And we're not being mean.

No, they're just not repopulating.

People who promote not having kids don't have kids. So who are you going to pass your belief on to of not repopulating? If you're a man and your husband, you guys can't procreate.

Right.

You can't do it. And it's certainly not a reason to just be like, oh, whatever, they're going to be gone.

No, yeah.

But it's not even sustainable. So the end game, that was not an Avengers reference. I wanted to talk about Avengers, but she hasn't seen it. The end game here is that the earth would exist undisturbed with no humans on it.

Yeah.

And that's for everything. For people who are against procreation, for people who can't procreate, that's the best case scenario, is that it would just be a world full of animals and plants.

Yeah.

And that's it. And honestly, the ignorance in that is that you don't even understand the type of effect. So we focus on the negative impact of humans on animals and plants. But that being said, there's tons of positive impact that humans have had on animals and plants.

And even if there wasn't, we're still supposed to be here. I mean, shame on people for promoting bad stewardship and for just, you know, I mean, we're not getting into an environmentalist conversation here, but we're still supposed to be here.

No matter what you say, you cannot convince me that humans just got here by accident. And what a shame that was.

Yeah, well, in evolution, I guess you can go with that.

Well, in evolution, it says that if you don't procreate, that your fitness is not very high and you shouldn't be.

That's true. Yeah, no, you're right. That's a very anti-evolutionary viewpoint.

I would venture to say, you know, I would venture to say that fitness would also not involve you gluing yourself to other things. Like the road where cars drive.

Right.

So, I wonder if somebody had to go scrape up her skin. I don't know.

I feel like it probably took... Maybe they had like a solution or something.

Acid.

So, yeah, but I mean, this is why having such...

I bet humans made that stuff that got her off that pavement.

Well, I have an optimistic... eschatology matters, though, because, you know, it's, again, because we're thinking long-term. It's like, yeah, we do have hope. I know a lot of Christians, you know, that don't have that position that see stuff like this, and it's, you know, like, the end of the world's here, and there's no hope, and they're looking for the rapture, and it's like, no, we're going to outlive this, and Christ is going to be victorious over this, right?

This will eventually be put under his feet. So, to me, in my eyes, yes, we need to fight against this. Yes, we need to stand up for truth. But, you know, eventually it's going to be overcome because of the sheer folly of it, because they're not reproducing, and they're just going to die out.

Right. There was a... What is it? I don't know where it's at. Ephesians 5, maybe? Where it talks about not taking part in unfruitful works, or dark works, but, like, exposing them.

Yeah, exactly.

Good call. So, next in this clip is our, all of our favorite Democrat nutjob,.

AOC,.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She is oodles of fun, isn't she? Buckets of fun.

I mean, she's got some confidence or something behind her. She just doesn't stop. Millennials.

And people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up, and we're like, the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.

That would be a End Times prophecy, just for the record, is what that is.

We'll see if she gets it wrong.

Guess what? Unsafe people also love End Times prophecy.

Yes.

12 years, y 'all. 12 years. That's why we're not having children, because the world's going to end in 12 years. Okay, here's another lady from England.

Learning about wildlife around the world, and I realized that most of it was actually just in a state of emergency.

Our planet.

We're in a state of emergency.

Yeah.

Too many humans.

Okay, here's some more AOC.

It's going to be a disaster if we don't turn this ship around. And so it's basically like there's scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult. And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question.

You know,.

Is it okay to still have children?

So, I want to say quickly, I think it was cross-politic I was listening to, and they were talking about her and her Green New Deal, which was just the stupidest thing. I mentioned farting cows earlier.

Like, she wants to eliminate the cows because their flatulence are destroying the environment. It's like, so they brought up a good point. What she essentially is asking for is for us to go back to, like, you know, have 40 acres and a farm and a donkey and, you know, mill our own stuff.

She doesn't exist in that world.

Right. Well, that's exactly what it's like. These millennials, these snowflake, you know, nutjobs that want this stuff. It's like, you don't even know what work is. You couldn't survive because you haven't done an ounce of hard work in your life.

Well, and it's just, I don't know. I think that it's definitely, like, an important conversation worth having because, obviously, there's certain things that have happened on this earth that maybe wouldn't be considered good stewardship but, at the same time, like, what is the purpose of this earth?

Why is it here? Humans are supposed to be here and so it's very easy to say, like, oh, you know, we've started using, like, improper farming practices and we've done all these things and it's like, well, how do we know how much of what has affected the innovation that's also occurred because of humans?

Because I haven't seen any cows or horses or anything coming up with a way to contact people in China when you're in the United States. I haven't seen any of them working on that. And you're talking about medical advances.

You're talking about, I mean, even just in terms of, like, travel innovation, being able to, so, yeah, people would say, like, oh, you shouldn't buy these certain kinds of fruits because they're put on a truck and they drive all this way and they produce all this stuff into the air and all this stuff and it's like, yeah, but those grocery stores are feeding more people than ever.

Like, there was a time where you would starve if you had no, like, if there was a drought or your crop was bad, you didn't have any food. And so, in a way, like, there is, we have to be careful that we're not leaning to the side of, if humans just hadn't have come here, all of this would have been great.

Because there's also things, there's stuff that doesn't necessarily exist, like a tomato as you know it, may have not come into existence if we just let the world go and there had never been any humans here.

So, it's really not, it's totally a secular view. It's just, like I said, have the conversation. It's a fun conversation to have. Actually, Matthew and I have had this conversation. My husband and I have had this conversation a lot.

He's a weed eater. Yeah. Literally.

Because he loves being outside. I like it too. I love going to places where humans aren't at. And they haven't thrown their trash. And they haven't, you know, done all that stuff. But we certainly can't, we can't say that humans, like, in order for this earth to be good, to be very good, that we, like, take humans off the planet.

Right. And we just eliminate it all together. It's like even this video I'm watching of her, you know, it's like a Facebook live.

Thing or something. And there's no science behind what she's saying. Oh, no. She's not supporting her, she's saying something that's very popular and producing no science. Right.

Yeah, like even the technology to do what she's doing in the video to get her point across, you know, as she's chopping this onion, which I kept waiting for her to slip and, like, cut a finger off or something.

But yeah, it's like even, so what you want is the technology to get across your environmentalism. You want that to be gone, too. And I actually saw some funny, it's not funny, it's true, but it's funny because it is true.

But, you know, she just released this film on Netflix. I haven't watched it yet. I don't know if you saw it. I don't even know what it's about. It's something, it's probably about socialism or something.

Oh yeah, it is about socialism. And they're like, the article was saying how she's using capitalism to spread her views on socialism. Which we talked about with Bernie and all that. It's just funny. It's like, you guys just just shut up.

Just stop.

If you were in a socialist, like a full socialist, like decades deep socialist country, you wouldn't be.

Having this conversation with a nation.

Right now. There'd be.

There'd be Netflix with five videos that we'd have to watch and that's it.

And everyone gets Netflix. And there's five videos.

And it's all the same.

Birth Strike, Environmentalism, and Human Procreation

Okay, moving on to this video here.

It's important to tell the public that there are people out there that are so scared about this that they feel that they can't actually have a family.

There might be like five of them, maybe. That Burst Direct channel on YouTube, I noticed there was like 95 subscribers.

Oh.

Which maybe there's a separate one. But that's the one that popped up and I was like, but anyways, there's still, there's not a lot of I don't think there's a lot of women that are like, we need to go on this Burst Direct.

There's a few nutty ones. Like you saw the one video, I couldn't find I was looking for it. The one, there are two ladies in their chairs and they're like doing all this like weird hand motion. I don't even know what's happening.

Anyways, okay, so then it moves to some clips from some morning talk show. I don't know what show it is.

How about this.

First strike? These are a group of women who have partners or are married, right? Who form an organization because of climate change. I feel very strongly. Do I want to bring my kid into this world? So guess what I'm going to do?

I'm not going to have one until the world takes climate change seriously.

Again,.

Please don't. Just don't. Thank you.