Aftershow, Nadir Take 2

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There, there we go. I didn't even hit go live, but now it's go live. So, all right. Okay. If you want to get in,

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Bill, come on in or anybody else wants to come in really quickly to talk about stuff, how it was.

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I've, I've posted it on Facebook under karm .org. Good for you.

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Thank you. All right. What's the karm .org, it would be, is there,

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I'm trying to get in there to get the exact URL for the Facebook one.

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It's karm .org, Facebook forward slash karm .org, but. When I put in karm .org,

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I put in karm .org slash after show. I just now clicked on it and it's taken me to YouTube.

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I'm going to click on that. Right. Yeah. It'll take you to the

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YouTube link, but I need to put also in here this, I'm going to get this going.

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Thank you. And okay. To participate and talk on StreamYard, go to, there we go.

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That's what I should have done. I didn't do it. Okay. Update that. And so I put that link right there and here we go.

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There, there, there. Yeah. All right. Okay.

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Update that. There we go. All right. Now we'll see if anybody comes in.

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So if you guys want to come in here, Bill, come on in and we can blah. Okay. I thought it was interesting.

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He, he can't sing. He is so convoluted in his thinking. He's so bad at his logic.

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He has no training at all in what logic is. And he makes repeated errors, constant, really bad errors.

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In all seriousness, his arguments would be the kind of a thing, seriously, that they should review in a logic class.

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And so they could say, students, let's go through this. What's, where are the errors? And I mean, hands would go up.

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He did this. He did that. That's how bad it is. There was a, it, well,

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I got a call from George Sayeg. He works with ministry to Muslims, ministry to Muslims .org.

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And he said, Hey Matt, you had a debate with a guy named Nadir a month or two ago. I said, yeah, he says, we're going to have heat.

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And then Nadir debated another guy on the same topic and said, okay, good. So he said, could you come in on Sunday today and just kind of debrief and go through and have

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Nadir in again, we're gonna have a panel. I go, great, fine. So that's what it was. And so now we're doing the after show and Nadir is one of the worst arguers

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I've ever seen, ever come in contact with, seriously. Matt, if you'll send that link to my phone,

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I can copy it and paste it and they can get in. Okay. There it is on your phone.

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You're sending it. So he, I listed out the errors he made and he, he doesn't even know enough to know he doesn't even know enough.

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I talked to him about proximate and I try to say, this is what proximate efficient causation is. This is what logicians talk about.

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This is what Christian apologists talk about too. And these issue of causation and responsibility. And he didn't want to hear it.

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He refuses to hear, refuses to learn, refuses to debate or I mean, adapt.

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So anyway, we just thought we'd do this really quickly because it entered just five, 10 minutes ago. And so I decided to put this up, calm .org

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forward slash after show. We'll have the links you can go to to get into here to talk with me and, or do some commenting on, on YouTube and Facebook and they'll come into here.

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We'll be able to see them as well. I'll be able to see them. So if, if people come in the next five minutes, great.

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We'll talk. If not, I'll just shut it down because it's an impromptu kind of a thing anyway. All right.

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So there you go. What I think he, he just cannot get off the epilepsy.

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So, I mean, he, everything I ever hear him say is about epilepsy and he doesn't even know what he's saying.

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So, I mean, he, everything I ever hear. Randall, you got to mute yourself here. Let me mute you, Randall.

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Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joanne. Let Randall go ahead and I'll be sending this link out.

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Okay. Go ahead, Randall. Go ahead,

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Randall. Okay. Go ahead,

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Randall. Yeah. Turn your speaker down because we're having to feed Randall. Turn your speaker down because we're having to feed

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Randall. Yeah. It's a 10 second delay. Randall, just turn your speaker off or whatever it is.

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Maybe he's coming back. All right. So yeah, I really don't want to expect people to show up here hardly, but that's what happened because it was very impromptu.

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Randall, after show. There you go. That's right. There you go.

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Okay. So I'm going to get there. Randall's a good guy though. All right.

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Yeah. He committed all kinds of errors. Matt Bell, Fred Bale, Matt Bell.

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I hope we don't get someone with a name Buol. That'd be hard to tell their names. Okay. Randall, you there?

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All right. Am I okay now? Yeah. There's no echo. You're a little bit muffled when you talk, but we can hear you.

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Go ahead. Well, I closed everything down. Okay. No, I wasn't listening.

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It was a very interesting debate. Apparently, the guy didn't know anything while he was talking about me.

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It was messed up, illogical. But I just wanted to call in and when he talks about World War II and about comparing

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Christians to Nazis and that Hitler based the whole thing on because the

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Jews crucified Jesus. I mean, the guy doesn't know his history.

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I love World War II stuff. I watch it all the time. I read it. Hitler's dad was,

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I only hate to pronounce the name, A -L -O -I -S, Hitler. He was a

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Jew and he was very domineering. They said that he beat some of his family and stuff.

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He's a very bad dad. I believe that a lot of Hitler's, Adolf Hitler's issues came from his childhood and his father and stuff.

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It didn't come because of the Jews crucifying Jesus. There's a lot of stuff

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I won't go into, but the history of it, that's not where it started. During World War II, the

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Muslims helped Hitler. They helped Hitler in his persecution of the

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Jews and all that. They even joined his armies and stuff like in Northeast Africa when they were having the conflict there.

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The Muslims weren't innocent and Hitler, his bias,

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I think, was based on his childhood, things that were happening in his childhood.

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I just wanted to throw that in there. Good. Yeah, I know that he hated the

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Jews and it wasn't because of Christianity. He pretended to be a Christian. He was involved in the alcohol, did all kinds of crap.

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Yeah, Hitler hated, he killed locked up Catholics and Baptists and everything.

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It wasn't just the Jews. Hitler was, he was a maniac. This guy's trying to apply logic to the way

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Hitler thought. That's what he was trying to do. This is why, this is why. Well, Adolf Hitler was not a logical person.

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He was a maniac. You can't do that. Yeah. Well, I thought that what was obvious, you're pointing it out, he was so desperate to try and make things make sense and defend himself that he couldn't focus on the argument.

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He had to deflect constantly. I got him to admit that Allah is the one who made it look like he was crucified.

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Therefore, Allah was the one who initiated the deception and hence brought in confusion.

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I thought that was a good point. Of course, he just tried to weasel out of it all he could. But basically, Allah started

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Christianity. Yeah. Yeah. So, use his argument against him and it didn't work out for him.

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Yeah. That's all I wanted to say. I just wanted to throw that out there.

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I really get upset when people start going into history and they don't relay it right.

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They distort history for their own means. Right. They do.

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That's right. I should have said you become like the God you follow.

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God's a deceiver. Yeah. Okay. Hey, Bill.

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Oh, that was you. No. Randall. Okay. That wasn't me.

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No. Okay. It wasn't me. Why did he keep on using the word camouflage?

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It didn't. I just didn't understand that. The word what? They used the word camouflage.

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Oh, yeah. Camouflage. That's so that's okay. It's okay to deceive people. And I said, it's not the issue.

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The issue is, did your God by his own direct hand deceive people into believing what was not true and furthermore, knowing what it would occur?

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Doesn't Allah know everything? Yeah. He knew what would happen. He did it. That was the point.

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Yeah. All right.

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Anybody else have any comments or anything? That was an interesting show there debate.

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I actually, I wasn't following that guy, but I actually subscribed to his channel while I was watching it because it's really good.

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All right. Okay. All right. I'm going to leave.

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I'll see you tomorrow night, hopefully. Yep. Okay. I might as well just shut this down. It's really, people aren't really coming in and we're just kind of dead airing it.

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It's no big deal. All right. So I appreciate everybody coming in with a nice impromptu thing. Normally I don't do this on Sundays anymore, but George asked me to, so for him, yep.

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George is a great guy. He's awesome. So God bless you guys. All right. We'll see ya.