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Blair White just made a bold claim that God is for the LGBT community, particularly the

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T's in LGBT. Take a look at this. I feel like some of y 'all would believe that God is for like someone, a serial killer on death row after killing 17 people before you'll even consider if it's like God's for like gay people too.

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It's like, I promise you God is for everybody. What if I told you that Blair raises some interesting points, but also make some serious mistakes.

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So in this video, we're going to break it all down. We're going to cut through the noise and we're going to see what the Bible actually says.

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So let's get right into it. Welcome back to Wise Disciple.

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My name is Nate, and I'm helping you become the effective Christian that you are meant to be. Before I did this ministry full time, I was a pastor and a debate teacher, and it's from that intersection that I make these kinds of videos.

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Don't forget to like sub and share this one around, but only if you find it useful. No hate, but how do you feel about being and being close to God?

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Is it contradicting or if it's contradicting, so you're making the statement that it's contradicting even worse.

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I'm going to have to eat you up even more. In what world, like, here's the thing,

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I really do try to, you know, not talk too much about my religious beliefs, my spirituality, even though it feels like I am every five seconds, but it's because of questions like this that I just,

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I can't help but answer because it's like, in what world is God? In what world is my creator, the creator of the universe, me having a relationship with that and, you know, learning about that and getting close to that and believing in that In what world does that contradict anything to do with something as worldly and low level as if somebody is or not?

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And how is God just for you? I know you said no hate, but you also stated that it's contradicting you said as a statement in what world?

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I feel like some of y 'all would believe that God is for like someone, a serial killer on death row after killing 17 people before you'll even consider if it's like,

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God's for like gay people too. It's like, I promise you, God is for everybody. The weird ownership that some people feel like they have over God is really weird.

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And obviously it's what like every war is fought for. If you don't know, it's the, the, the background behind like us going into world war three is like, you know, two of the three

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Abrahamic religions going to war Judaism and Islam. That's what is really going on in the middle East right now. But like, and so I get it that everyone, you know, so I wanted to play this out a bit because I wanted to hear the rationale and the thought process behind this person's argument.

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You know, my concern in making these kinds of videos is that you know how to handle yourself. If you were to get into a similar situation, a similar conversation, you know, and even now, uh,

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I counted six, maybe seven sorts of distinct issues, right?

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They're all interrelated, but they're, they're, they're about, yeah, six or seven issues that were brought up in a minute and 43 seconds.

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What do we do with this? Right. Let me back up whenever this kind of conversation takes place, it's highly emotional and I get it.

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Um, I get why that is the case, you know, the problem is no amount of emotion can take the place of good reasoning for particular beliefs, religious beliefs, political beliefs, or any other type of belief.

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And so when a person asks for a good reason, but it's attached to an emotionally charged issue, we automatically have a problem in our society, you know, and I think we saw a bit of this with the

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Charlie Kirk video, right? This happens more and more in today's highly charged climate.

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And that's why, uh, the majority of the time, right. In my opinion, conversations like these are not productive.

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So you have a commenter, right? They asked the question, essentially, how do you square, uh, being

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T right? So the T in LGBT and being close to God, is there a contradiction?

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Okay. I totally get the question and I think it's leading to a good question, right?

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But already the issue is being framed in an unhelpful way. And it's what's, what's going on is it's poised to get two people on opposite sides of this issue to talk around each other.

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Immediately. I can already tell in the first few seconds, they're not talking to each other. They're talking past each other. So, so let's go through this together.

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Um, but if you stick with me, I'm going to show you, I think a couple of better questions to think through, and then we'll see what the

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Bible has to say about all this. Everyone's fighting all the time, but I promise you, if God is for Ted Bundy, if he repents at the end of his life,

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God is for me, regardless of if my hair is long and if I have plastic surgery or whatever the hell. I promise you,

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God is more concerned with my soul than my shell. I know for a fact that it is not contradictory for me to be and believe in God.

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And it's just really weird, this mindset, because it also feeds into why so many people in the LGBT community are so godless.

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We would have so much better social cohesion between straight people and gay people if gay people and trans people felt more of a permission to seek

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God, to have a relationship with God than what's happening now, which is, you know, just a lot of really godless behavior from that community.

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And I feel like I agree, you know, I agree with Blair, uh, the typical behavior within what we call the

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LGBT community is godless. So far, so good. You know, it sounds like we're in agreement.

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The problem is the imprecise way that this topic is being discussed.

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So Blair said, uh, God has no problem with me being T. Okay, except wait a minute.

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The Bible has no concept or category for what Blair just said. In other words, there is no such thing in the

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Bible as orientation. You know what I'm talking about? Orientation is a psychological concept that came to the fore in the 20th century.

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But if you press back into history enough, you won't find it. Why? Well, because what the

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Bible is concerned about is behavior. It's concerned about action. You know, notice, for example, this particular command from God in Leviticus.

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Look at this. Leviticus 18. 22. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

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Now, here's a question that you should ask yourself, right? Do you see anything that the Bible has to say about a person's orientation?

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It's not there, but what is there is God's concern that men and women devote themselves to bedroom activity within the confines of marriage, which if you think about it, trades on the complementarity between the physical bodies.

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So I'm trying to be careful how I say this, right? In other words, one man, one woman in marriage.

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Okay. But see, already we're starting to touch on why gender matters to God.

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Right? Look at this. Deuteronomy 22. 5. A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak.

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For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God. Again, I ask the question, do you see anything that the

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Bible has to say about a person's orientation in this verse? No. But what we do see is what people do to create gender confusion and to blur the clear lines of distinction between both male and female.

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And God is concerned about that. And God forbids that. Why? Because it goes back to the design that he has given men and women.

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It goes back to the purpose of marriage. You know, marriage fulfills the mandate of God to be fruitful and multiply in Genesis chapter one.

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And the only way that that can take place is again, through the complementarity of both partners as they recognize the way that God has created them and partner together in the bedroom.

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You see what I mean? When someone says, Oh, God's got no problem with me being

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T and then they go off and start looking for passages of scripture. They're not going to find anything.

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They're not going to find a scripture one way or another on that specific way that it's actually framed, right?

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But that's because the issue has been incorrectly framed. Orientation is a modern convention. That's why you won't find it in the

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Bible. What God does have a problem with is when people do not fulfill the purpose and the design of their creation.

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And clearly we see if we get into the scripture and take it seriously, that God has designed men and women to be men and women for a specific purpose.

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You know, it's just a self -fulfilling prophecy. If all the people dropping bombs in the

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Middle East, if all the people, you know, signing legislation that hurts people in the world, if all of them can claim

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God, I can claim God. You know, all the people manufacturing war missiles and I need you to go hit up them at Ms.

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Lockheed, right at Ms. Raytheon and ask them if they feel like it's contradictory to believe in God and be making missiles that kill people.

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I mean, you know, that that's an interesting point. I just don't think

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Blair is thinking about the implications here. What if we did that? What if we could legitimately point to people who are performing actions that end innocent lives, right?

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And also claim to be close to God. What if we, what if we went to them and asked them whether or not there was a contradiction there, but then the answer came back?

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Yes, there is. Right. What does that mean for Blair? You see what

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I mean? It appears that Blair is, I don't know, assuming that the answer is either no or it's inconsequential, whatever the answer is, but neither of those options are the actual answer.

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It absolutely matters to God what you do. This is why fruit is part and parcel to the

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Christian life. You know, remember what James says, look at this James chapter two, verse 14.

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What good is it? My brothers, if someone says that he has faith, but does not have works, can that faith save him?

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If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, go in peace, be warmed and filled without giving them the things needed for the body.

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What good is that? And so also faith by itself. If it does not have works is dead.

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Now, a lot of us make hay about, uh, you know, does this solve the justification issue in James?

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And just so you know, my view is James is not saying that works justify you in the eyes of God. Of course it doesn't.

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On the other hand, uh, what is James referring to as evidence that a person does have actual faith?

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It's their works. It's actions. It's what they do. As it turns out, your actions prove your belief, you know, which,

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I mean, if you really do a deep dive, that is a very Jewish concept. We're talking about walking out the commands of Christ in your own life.

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That means James is actually getting this concept from Jesus himself. As a matter of fact, watch now how

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Jesus puts it because, um, Jesus gives one of the most frightening statements that anyone could ever hear.

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And it's rooted in action. Look at this, Matthew seven, verse 21, not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my father who was in heaven on that day.

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Many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and cast out demons in your name and do many mighty works in your name.

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And then I will declare to them. I never knew you depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

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Interesting. Two questions here. First, what is the metric that Jesus is using to determine who knows him?

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It's a person's actions. Can you see that, you know, by the way, um, it's not just Jesus who appeals to actions.

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It's also the ones who are rejected. They also appeal to actions. Look at verse 22, right?

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Did we not prophesy in your name? Do we not cast out demons in your name? Do we not do all of these things? You know, they're appealing to actions.

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Those are all action oriented descriptors in verse 22 is what I was saying earlier.

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That's what matters in the Bible. Are you with me now?

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Let me press pause here for a moment because I don't want you to hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying that, uh, the only thing that matters is your action, that your heart and your soul has nothing to do with it.

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That's not what I'm saying. What I'm trying to do at this particular moment in time in this video is to correct the false view that what it really means to be a

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Christian is to maintain some kind of private, personal ascent to certain truth claims about metaphysics.

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All right. That's not true. Ascending to certain truth claims doesn't make you a

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Christian. That's, that's what makes you a philosopher. You know what I mean? To be a Christian is to enter into an intimate, eternal relationship with the living

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God and to be transformed slowly into the image of Christ as you carry your cross and you submit to the sanctifying

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Holy Spirit. That's what it means. If anyone watching this is like Blair, I ask you to strongly consider this statement from Jesus.

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All right, look at this. Matthew 16 verse 24, then Jesus told his disciples, if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

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For whoever would save his life will lose it. But whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. You know, what is

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Jesus asking you to deny? What is he asking every Christian to deny?

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Our own desires, the desires that we have to satisfy our own flesh. Every desire that does not align to God's desires for us.

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That's what he's asking us to deny, right? But then wait, what does Jesus promise also that he will give us life, an eternal life that satisfies our deepest longings?

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You know, the problem with those who reject God is that they are seeking satisfaction in all the wrong things.

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They're seeking it in their own sense of identity and in behavior that they think is going to make them happy, but it's godless actually, right?

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Blair says many in the LGBT community display godless behavior. I agree with that.

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The Lord agrees with that. You know, we should all be praying for our friends and family and the coworkers and the people that we care about that are in the

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LGBT community, but not that, that, you know, they would profess Christianity, right?

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Ascent to truth claims about Christianity, but that they would have eternal life because they know

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God intimately. And that because of this new reality, their identity is no longer in their orientation, but in Christ, that their desires are no longer in their flesh, but in Christ.

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And then slowly, but surely they will be conformed into the image of the sun as they put one foot in front of the other as an act of faith following after Jesus Christ.

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Because that is what being a Christian looks like on the day to day. You know, there is a

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T loss to this. It should lead to greater and greater holiness over time. And that's actually the question that I, I, I think we should be asking folks like Blair.

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It's also a question that should be posed to a lot of people who go to church on Sunday. You know what I mean? So it's not just Blair.

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I mean, it's like, golly, all of us really need to wrestle with this. And actually I think there's three possible questions here.

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Number one, do you know God intimately? I'm finding more and more as I engage people, you know, uh, especially online.

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The question, are you a Christian is unhelpful. The question really should be reframed to, do you know God intimately and does he know you?

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Now, those two questions right there come from John 17, three and Matthew seven 23, right?

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Eternal life is what that, you know, the one true God in Jesus Christ whom he has sent that, you know,

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God on a very intimate level. And also does Jesus know you back, you know, or will he say to you in the end, you claimed to know me, but I never knew you depart from me, right?

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And then, uh, the final question, um, how has your life transformed since knowing

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God, right? This is a, this is a question of fruit, uh, and it's taken from James chapter two, but also

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John 15, the abide passage, you know, the Jesus gives to his disciples, Colossians one, uh, right.

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Amen. Those are the questions that I think that we should be asking and wrestling with.

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And you know, honestly, if you are somebody who is following after Jesus legitimately, that last question should excite you because what is that?

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That's an invitation to sharing testimony, right? God, look at what God has done through me and, and changed me as I follow him, right?

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If you're not a follower of Jesus Christ, I wonder if that question would actually make you upset, uh, make you defensive.

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You know what I mean? Anyway. All right. That's a bit of a short video for you, but listen, let me always end here.

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Please join me in praying for Blair. There are some things that Blair said that just made me wonder,

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I wonder, you know, if this is a journey, this is a legitimate journey, knowing

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God that eventually Blair will surrender all to Christ, right? Um, I think that kind of explains some of the language here, you know, some of the ways that Blair gets this right and says things that I would affirm.

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Um, but at the end of the day, that relationship, uh, just like it's true for all of us has to find, um, full expression in a denial of self and sanctification over time.

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Um, and for Blair, this is, this is absolutely a possibility. Okay. And as Christians, that's what we should be praying and hoping for.

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You know, we're not going to dunk on Blair and go send hate comments. That's not, if you do that, you are not part of this community.

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Believe me. Let's pray that, uh, Blair continues the journey, you know, and that some solid

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Christians can come alongside Blair, um, and that there would be a, a, a deeper, uh, sense and understanding of God and of the desires of God.

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