HYPER GRACE Documentary (feat. Dr. Michael Brown, David Ravenhill and Eric Ludy)

You know one of the key things that we see in the truth of God's Word is how we are saved. We are saved by grace through faith. So if you're the devil, one of the things you're going to want to touch is those two key concepts.

If you can mar our understanding of grace and mar our understanding of faith, what have you done? You've completely uprooted and undermined how we are saved. Now the Christian actually doesn't even know how he is saved because his idea of grace is messed up and his idea of faith is messed up.

It's a brilliant tactic and that's exactly what we see the enemy doing in our modern generation. So if you start with the concept of grace, grace oftentimes today is understood as just a hug of God. Here we are just a mess, which is definitely true.

We are a mess and so God comes along and he says, you know what, I know you're a mess but I love you as a mess. And so he gives us a big hug and you know he doesn't intend to change us from being a mess.

In fact, he loves us being a mess and that's called grace, God loving the mess. Well that's actually not what grace is in the Bible. You could call it more kindness, long-suffering, mercy, but God loves us too much to leave us a mess.

You see, maybe he loves us while we were yet sinners and that's when he died for us and he expressed and shed abroad that love. However, he does not love us in that state or to keep us in that state. He loves us to help us out of that state.

His agenda with us is to establish our feet upon a rock to wash us clean and to imbue his power or his life into us to enable us to live out a life that otherwise would be impossible. Well that's called grace.

You see, it's grace that rescues us in our weakened state and grace does have attributes of kindness and mercy and long-suffering. That's part of grace, but grace is a lot bigger than that. Those words already exist in the Bible.

Mercy, you don't need to mix up grace and mercy. It's a separate concept. Grace is a work. It is an enabling power of God to accomplish something in our lives and so what we see in our modern day is we see the concept of grace being turned into a license to remain in sin, a license to remain in the pigsty.

It's like, no, God loves me in the pigsty. That's actually what we see in Jude 1 verse 4, for there are certain men crept in unawares who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men.

Well, what do these ungodly men do? It says that they turned the grace of our God into lasciviousness, a license to sin. It's like, no, we have legal right to this. We're under grace. They transformed grace into something that it isn't and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

When you turn the grace of God into a license to sin, it's an affront to the cross.

It's an affront to Jesus Christ. Grace was never given as an excuse for sin. It was given as a means to have dominion over sin and so I think we've got to get back to the intention. You know, I think I put in one of my books, the whole welfare system in America was designed to help needy families.

Couldn't provide for their children and so on and so forth and so there were food stamps and so on. The problem was they abused the intent of that and went out and used food stamps for alcohol, traded it in for drugs and everything else.

That was an abuse of the intention and so I think we've got to go back to the original intention of grace to understand that there is an abuse of grace that is not acceptable. Jesus Christ was full of grace and truth.

And of his fullness we have all received and grace for grace. What is this great thing called grace that came through Jesus? A basic definition of grace is undeserved or unmerited favor. Grace always flows down.

The slave doesn't show grace to his lord but rather the lord to his slave. Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ but a grace without truth is not biblical grace. Any grace beyond biblical grace is false and dangerous.

Grace is so much more than unmerited favor. In his grace God exerts his holy influence upon souls. With those who abide in Christ, grace teaches them. Grace empowers them and grace kindles them to the exercise of Christian virtue,.

Righteousness and holiness. When I speak of hyper grace what am I speaking of? I'm speaking of a message that basically says this, because Jesus has died for us and made us righteous and we are now fully accepted in Jesus that not only have we already been justified so that God puts us in the righteous column, not only have we already been justified but we have already been sanctified and made perfectly holy in God's sight so God only sees us as holy.

It's not even that he sees us through his son but he sees us as holy. He doesn't see our sins and because Jesus died for all of our sins past, present and future that means that all of your sins have already been considered forgiven by God.

God's already forgiven your future sins therefore you never need to confess sin because it's already forgiven and doesn't exist in God's sight. You never need to repent of sin because it's already been forgiven and doesn't exist in God's sight and any human effort that you put into.

Trying to please God is a denial of grace and a denial of the cross. In the new testament we see.

Grace the word translated around 126 times I should say around it. I think it is 126 times. Out of those 126 times I think it's around 124 that it's fairly clear. And I say fairly about 25 times. It's really clear 124 times it's clear that it's the enabling power of God.

There's one time which someone could say no no it is a hug. However there's still room to argue that no. It also still could be talking about the enabling power of God. And there's one time that it's a different greek word euprepia instead of charis.

And so we have 126 mentions of the word grace. And there's an overwhelming evidence in the new testament that it is to do with power. It is the labor of God to enable man to function as he ought to function.

So what are we doing nowadays when we're coming up with a completely new definition of grace. Some of the best-selling books in christianity I think Philip Yancey's book what's so amazing about grace wins the christian book of the year award is quoted by more pastors than any.

It's completely redefined grace. And it doesn't even go to the bible to define it. Where are we getting this from. Well it's turning the grace of God into lasciviousness. There's a quote in a book that really messes with the notions of grace.

It's called the ragamuffin gospel by a man named brennan manning. And in it he quotes feodor dostoevsky. He says feodor dostoevsky caught the shock and scandal of the gospel of grace when he wrote. And this is what dostoevsky wrote at the last judgment.

Christ will say to us come. You also come drunkards come weaklings come children of shame. And he will say to us vile beings you who are in the image of the beast and bear his mark. But come all the same you as well.

And the wise and prudent will say lord why do you welcome them. And he will say if i welcome them you wise men if i welcome them you prudent men it is because not one of them has ever been judged worthy.

And he will stretch out his arms and he we will fall at his feet. And we will cry out sobbing. And then we will understand all. We will understand the gospel of grace. Lord your kingdom come. It's moving.

It has pathos in it where all of us are like oh praise god that the gospel of grace accepts us no matter what we're like. Except that's not what the gospel says. The gospel makes it very clear that god resists the proud but gives grace unto the humble.

If there is a belligerence towards god if there isn't a turning in faith and in belief unto jesus christ. I'm sorry to say. But the grace of god is not open to us. It is the humble that receive grace.

It is the penitent it is the repentant that actually receive the gift of god in christ jesus. And so what we see is a denial of actually what the word of god says and a redefinition of the concept of grace.

And it feels good. And it itches people's ears because they want it to be that way. But the grace of god was made manifest at the cross not in an empty hell. We want to say well if god really is love if god really is gracious wouldn't there be an empty hell.

He wouldn't let anyone go there. That's why he came and shed his blood. The reason he gave up his life was because he is a god of grace because he is a god of love. And he says turn from your wickedness believe and you will be saved.

We also see brennan manning making a statement and he says it very clearly. So i'm going to read it. This is the gospel of grace a god who out of love for us sent the only son he ever had wrapped in our skin.

He learned how to walk stumbled and fell cried for his milk sweated blood in the night was lashed with a whip and showered with spit was fixed to a cross and died whispering forgiveness on us all. And you know you and i could say that's that's all true.

Yeah that's that's fairly well put. But what we see is a diminishment of what grace really is. You see it's not just that jesus died that's that's that's an aspect of god's grace at work. But he opened up the channel for us to access his grace in and through his work of grace on the cross.

You see it's not just that his grace was evidenced on the cross it's that his grace was made available to us so that we might live. And so that we might not just be dead in our sin in our trespasses but so that we might come to life in christ.

Jesus in his grace and his grace might enable us to live as otherwise we couldn't live. There's more to the story. It's not just that he died whispering forgiveness on us all. How about the gospel of grace includes the fact that on the third day he rose again and then he ascended to the right hand of the father.

And you know where we're seated we're seated in him. We have been brought near. When we believe in christ we're actually in him. And where he goes we go. When he went to the cross our old man was crucified.

When he was buried our old behavior was buried. And when he rose again we rose to newness of life in christ jesus. And when he ascended we sit with him at the right hand of authority and power. We become heirs of salvation.

And we've been brought into the throne room of grace where there's a treasure chest of grace. And it can open up to us. And guess what's available. The very life of god it's called grace. The very spirit of god can be imparted to us so that we can live by grace not just be saved by it but live by it.

The god who did it two thousand years ago desires to continue doing it in us. I call that the gospel of grace. You see it's bigger. It's larger when we just say oh god forgives us. And so therefore we still live in adam.

We still live in this old sloppy messy life. Oh his grace has been made manifest to us so that we can live so that we can actually bear the nature of god so that we can show this world what jesus is like not us his.

Grace does it in us and that's the gospel of grace and we are so glad we are part of it in his book.

Pure grace. Clark whitton writes. Little has changed in the protestant church in more than 500 years. He believes that luther and calvin got it right concerning justification or how one is saved but they missed it on sanctification or how one is perfected into the likeness of christ.

When martin luther stood up over 400 years ago and with a revelation that just shall live by faith justification by faith and the grace revolution began with martin luther. And they try to kill him they try to burn him they try to silence him.

Okay the devil opposed grace and over the last 504 and something hundred years grace the message of the gospel has been recovered and has been recovered but it is not fully recovered yet. Friends the gospel of grace that paul preached is not being preached in the majority of churches around the world identifying himself as a new.

Mystic john crowder says just as there is a new mysticism on the rise i believe it is coupled with a new reformation. The good news will be preached with such clarity that even the days of luther will seem utterly primitive in its concepts of grace and faith.

Even the reformers were not reformed enough in grace. The forbidden gospel rob rufus is quoted saying. The church today does not need another spiritual revival because revivals come and go. It needs another theological reformation as it did in the days of martin luther.

Reformation will automatically bring about revival. Perhaps the most well-known hyper grace preacher joseph prince refers to a gospel revolution in his book. Destined to reign the secret to effortless success wholeness and victorious.

Living grace is not a teaching it's not a curriculum. In a bible school one of the topics you would learn grace is the gospel. Grace is the person of jesus christ. Grace is a person and when you encounter the person grace teaches there's something about grace.

When you encounter grace it teaches you. Grace is a teacher. It teaches you to deny ungodliness and worldly lust. Amen. Pastor prince preach. No we preach. Grace and grace will teach. Aside from several articles appearing.

In charisma news by dr michael brown david ravenhill and others there has been little exposing and refuting of the new grace reformation. Also called hyper grace dr brown has also written hyper grace exposing the dangers of the modern grace message.

The problem is the message in the.

So-called new grace reformation goes beyond what scripture says. It mixes in some dangerous elements with it that go beyond scriptural grace. To the point that it's leading many believers into confusion.

To the point that it's leading many believers to become weak in terms of their resolve to resist sin. Because what does it matter god sees me as perfect all the time. So it's actually a mixture. It's not a biblical grace message.

I call it hyper grace because it goes beyond what scripture says. The proponents say it is hyper. It's the word paul uses. Hyper grace should be hyper.

Well not if you go beyond what scripture says. I've got some good news for you this week. You know there's this false moniker that's recently been placed on us. There's been a lot of monikers placed on us but this one is called hyper grace which in all honesty is a bit of a compliment because you can never over-exaggerate the depths of god's grace.

Now let me tell you something boys and girls you haven't even sniffed the cork yet. This glory train's gonna be so add hyper. You're gonna have to put it on ridland. You can't over-exaggerate grace but on the other hand you can underestimate jesus and that is exactly what the adversaries of the gospel are doing these days as usual because it's really the scandal of the gospel that is so scandalous.

Grace is personified in.

Jesus he came into this world full of grace and truth. So when a person says you can go too far with grace what they really mean is what they might as well say is you can go too far with jesus. And i say no you can't.

And so you can't go too far with grace. No you can't. Yeah you overrun the grace space and you've left grace and you moved into disgrace. Now now and then you'll meet.

Probably the most prominent best-known teacher that would be in this camp today is joseph prince. Again i constantly hear from people who've been helped and liberated and blessed by his teaching. That i hear from others where it's reactionary where they've thrown out the baby with the bath water where we can't even call them to holiness or perseverance because of their their reaction against certain scriptures.

Uh andrew womack would be a well-known teacher. Both of them somewhat in a word of faith camp. There are well-known grace authors like steve mcveigh or clark witton has become better known in recent years or dr paul ellis.

They all emphasize a number of the same key points and they all have the same reaction to our counterpoint. So even though it's not monolithic there's a lot of similarity from one teacher to the next.

And you'll find that many of the books.

Repeat a lot of what joseph prince says originally to be fair the hyper grace movement does not overtly teach that grace is a license to sin. It's all about grace amen. And there's always.

Someone who's afraid that when you preach grace you're getting people licensed to sin. But roman 6 14 if you look on the screen i just wonder sometimes people can read it is so clear. Roman 6 14 tells us.

For sin shall not have dominion over you because for you are not under law but you're under grace. So wherein comes this fear that when you teach grace when you when people leave under grace they will leave a licentious lifestyle they will steer away from holiness.

I find that when i'm under grace my attraction to jesus becomes stronger and stronger towards holiness greater and greater and my attraction towards sin gets lesser and lesser. How many can say amen to that when you hear stuff like you.

Heard today or what you heard today. Does it kind of just make you want to run out and sin all over town. Just be lascivious all over town. That's a dirty word isn't it. Lascivious answer no no no.

Does grace allow us to sin. Now grace preachers are often accused of allowing people to sin but in reality this accusation is absolutely false. No one who truly preaches grace is saying that it is all right to sin or giving people permission to do what is wrong.

The hyper grace accusation has built up this straw man argument that's simply not true that we're somehow preaching license to sin. Grace is not license to sin it is freedom from sin. I am still trying to figure out uh who are these mythical preachers who say you should go send to your heart's content.

I suppose with facebook there could be plenty of nut jobs out there saying that but i don't know how i got looped in with any of it. We've been preaching god-given holiness that manifests in real god-given right living for years.

Grace is not a cover-up he's a person. Grace is literally defined as the divine influence of god upon a man. It's like a wind that fills your sails and drives you and works mightily through you with his supernatural energy.

You can only live holy.

When you realize that's who he made you to be. Nevertheless hyper grace is an exaggeration and distortion of biblical grace the end result being similar to that of the grace changers which the apostles spoke against.

If you preach like that people go out and sin.

Notice that people will still sin biblical grace is is wonderfully important because every one of us is saved by grace by god reaching out to us when we didn't deserve it. If god gave us what our sins deserved if god treated us justly and and outside of grace outside of the cross we'd all be damned and doomed forever.

So we're all indebted to god's grace. We're all indebted to the fact that he reached out to us when we were lost that his son died on the cross for the things that we did. And when people speak of grace they sometimes say it's god's riches at christ's expense.

Or it's unnerved favor. That's the heart and soul of it. But the amazing thing about grace is it doesn't end there. It's not just i was saved by grace 42 or 43 years ago way back then. No. God's grace has continued to work in my life forgiving me as i fall short and as i look to god for mercy and also empowering me to live a new and changed life.

So to the extent we understand god's grace we can live free of condemnation. We can live transformed lives. And we can really exemplify.

To the world who jesus is through transformed lives the scriptures tell us that we are saved by grace. Our salvation is a free gift not earned or merited by our own works. God who is rich in mercy because of his great love with which he loved us even when we were dead in trespasses made us alive together with christ.

By grace you have been saved and raised us up together and made us sit together in the heavenly places in christ jesus that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace and his kindness toward us in christ jesus.

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And that not of yourselves. It is the gift of god not of works lest anyone should boast. For we are his workmanship created in christ jesus for good works which god prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

God who has saved us and called us with a holy calling not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace which was given to us in christ jesus before time began but has now been revealed by the appearing of our savior jesus christ who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

But when the kindness and the love of god our savior toward man appeared not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the holy spirit whom he poured out on us abundantly through jesus christ our savior that having been justified by his grace we should become heirs according to the eternal life.

This is a faithful saying. And these things i want you to affirm constantly that those who have believed in god should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men. God loved us while we were sinners by sending his son jesus christ into the world.

Jesus came to seek and save that which was lost not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance. The pharisees said why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners. This man if he were a prophet would know who and what manner of woman this is who is touching him for she is a sinner.

The pharisees did not understand grace by grace god has initiated and offered salvation to sinners. We weren't received because we were good enough. We were received because god is gracious. Boasting is excluded because this was not something we deserved or merited by any good works of our own by god's grace he accepted us forgave us and redeemed us.

But in those same passages paul went on to say that we are his workmanship created in christ jesus for good works. And those who have believed in god should be careful to maintain good works. Paul is a pattern of how god's grace turns a lost sinful hateful person into a beloved brother by grace paul was forgiven received taught and changed he said.

And i thank christ jesus our lord who has enabled me because he counted me faithful putting me into the ministry although i was formerly a blasphemer a persecutor and an insolent man. But i obtained mercy because i did it ignorantly in unbelief.

And the grace of our lord was exceedingly abundant with faith and love which are in christ jesus. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance that christ jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom i am chief.

However for this reason i obtained mercy that in me first jesus christ might show all long suffering as a pattern to those who are.

Going to believe on him for everlasting life. Scripture is actually very clear on the fact that grace is not merely just a hug from god it is enabling power. It is power to perform that which is otherwise impossible.

It's power to actually obey god. We couldn't obey before there was something we wanted to do but we didn't have the substance within our souls to be able to actually pull it off. But now the grace of god has been revealed in jesus christ.

And we have what we need in christ jesus not in ourselves in christ to be able to actually live out the life that we're called to which is impossible actually. So technically grace is power to live the impossible life.

And so what i want to do is i want to just give a brief overview of some of the key concepts of how grace is used in the new testament. Just to back this point. We see in first corinthians 15 10. But by the grace of god i am what i am says paul.

And his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain. But i labored more abundantly than they all. Yet not i but the grace of god which was with me. Well what's laboring in paul. The grace of god.

That's not a hug. So what we see is that grace is given that we might labor more abundantly. In second corinthians 9 8 paul is again making this argument says. God is able to make all grace abound towards you that you always having all sufficiency in all things may abound to every good work.

So what do they need to have sufficiency in all things and to abound to every good work grace. You see grace enables the christian to actually do that which with our call to do. So we see that grace is given that we may have sufficiency in all things and grace is also given that we may abound to every good work.

In romans 1 5 paul is saying by whom we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for his name. So they received grace for the strangest thing i thought it was just a hug to cover over our sin.

No that's not the way grace is used in the new testament. He received grace for obedience to the faith. So grace is given for obedience to the faith in acts 4 33. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the lord jesus.

And great grace was upon them all. Well grace is given as power for witnessing of the resurrection of jesus. And then in first corinthians 3 10 according to the grace of god which is given unto me as a wise master builder i have laid the foundation and another buildeth thereon.

But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. So grace is given in order that we may lay foundations. In other words this is a master builder's toolbox. He needs grace. How is paul going to go about and be a master builder of the church.

Well he does it with grace. And then in ephesians 3 8 to me who am less than the least of all the saints this grace was given that i should preach. Why did he receive grace to preach among the gentiles the unsearchable riches of christ.

So grace is given for preaching among the gentiles. Let us therefore come boldly. It says in hebrews 4 16 under the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace for grace to help in time of need.

So grace is given as our means of help in time of need. So what does god give us in a time of need. He doesn't just give us a hug. He gives us help practical help. What is that help. It's grace. And in hebrews 12 28 wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved let us have grace whereby we may serve god acceptably with reverence and godly fear.

Grace is given whereby we may serve god acceptably. And then in first peter 5 10 this one's a loaded scripture. But the god of all grace who hath called us unto his eternal glory by christ jesus after you have suffered a while make you perfect establish strengthen and settle you.

Grace is given to make us perfect. Grace is given to establish us. Grace is given to strengthen us. And grace is given to settle us. And then in ephesians 2 8 for by grace are you saved through faith.

And that not of yourselves it is the gift of god. Grace is given to save us. And then acts 18 27. And when he was disposed to pass into a ki the brethren wrote exhorting the disciples to receive him who when he was come helped them much which had believed through grace.

Grace is given to enable others to believe in jesus christ. This is powerful stuff. Grace works. You see it is the work of god. The cross is the work of god is an expression of grace. But what does. What do we need now to live the christian life.

We need god to work. To work within us to work for us. He ever lives to make intercession for us. Not just on the cross but he ever lives to do it. So he lives. And the way he does it is through grace.

That's the term for it in the bible god laboring on our behalf to accomplish what only god can accomplish.

In him we have redemption through his blood the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his grace. Grace covers our sins. But allowing sin and covering sin are two different things. Paul said that where sin abounded grace abounded much more.

On the other hand paul also asked the rhetorical question. What shall we say then. Shall we continue in sin. That grace may abound. Certainly not. How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it. Hyper grace teachers agree with.

These passages being understood in this sense paul argued things like well shall we sin that grace may abound may never be it's an impossibility. How shall we who are dead once you're dead you're dead.

How can we who are dead to sin live any longer. Therein jesus has set us free from sin.

That we might not be slaves of sin any longer but we must act upon this in order to obtain god's grace or favor. We must repent and be baptized in the name of jesus christ for the remission of sins. Peter said repent and let every one of you be baptized in the name of jesus christ for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the holy spirit.

Thus we are saved by grace through faith. We have access to god's saving grace through faith in christ. Paul wrote therefore having been justified by faith we have peace with god through our lord jesus christ through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand.

But that's only the beginning.

Grace says both. Neither do i condemn you. And go. And sin no more. Biblical grace is saving grace. It's transforming grace. You know by grace you saved. You know ephesians 2 8 and 9 you go back a couple of verses it says you you were dead in trespasses and sins but god made us alive.

And so grace has got that power to make us alive to transform us to change us from what we were to become new creatures. In christ jesus all things are passed away. I mean that's the power of grace is the power to change.

And paul says you know you're no longer under sin grace. We're no longer in the the dominion of sin. Grace has a greater dominion of sin's dominion. And so we've got to understand that saving grace is transforming grace.

It's the power of god working innocent through us to bring about god's desire result of having children in his own likeness and.

Image. Paul went on to say that grace has freed us from slavery of sin to become slaves of obedience to god. For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under the law but under grace. What then shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace.

Certainly not. Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey. You are that one slave to whom you obey whether of sin leading to death or of obedience leading to righteousness. This is not here.

That being under grace will cause licentiousness because the bible states clearly in roman 6 14 if you look up here for sin shall not have dominion over you for or because you are not under law but under grace.

But what we have believed is that when you are under grace sin will have dominion over you. We've been hook winged by the devil but the word of god is so clear when you are under grace and not under law sin shall not have dominion over you.

The word sin there is a noun you can put faith and shall not have dominion over you. Sickness shall not have dominion over you. Poverty shall not have dominion over you. When when you are not under law but under grace.

As far as joseph prince is a person i don't think his intention is to get people to sin. I think the fruit of his teaching leads to that leads to a loose lifestyle it leads to carnality and so on and so forth.

You know i think that's the fruit. I don't think he's teaching you know go out and sin do whatever you want sort of thing. But i think the uh the doctrine.

Ultimately leads to that notice. Romans 3 25 says. God had passed over the sins that were previously committed. But the hyper grace movement teaches that christians have been forgiven of their past present and future sins.

In his book unmerited favor joseph prince writes. His grace is cheapened when you think that he has only forgiven you of your sins up to the time you got saved and after that point you have to depend on your confession of sins to be forgiven.

God's forgiveness is not given. In installments paul ellis says. Forgiveness seems to be a blind spot for many people. We just can't get it into our heads that god has forgiven us completely and for all time.

In his sermon entitled totally forgiven totally united totally filled ryan rufus says. The following you have been.

Totally forgiven. You haven't been partially forgiven. You have been totally and completely and utterly and fully and absolutely forgiven of all your sins past present and future. Amen. Most christians don't have any trouble believing that jesus forgives them of all their past sins.

But many christians have trouble believing that jesus has already forgiven them of all of their future sins. They struggle with that so they feel they have this need that if they sin they've got to confess the sin and repent of the sin and be cleansed of the sin.