Jeff Durbin argues with two Jehovah's Witnesses: Part two

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That's right. He sacrificed his body. Right, except, you do have a problem.

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You have two major problems. And if I just tell you two. Okay. Okay, and you're going to have to find some way to reconcile this.

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And the fact, let's just go to two statements here, just by the Lord Jesus. Okay. Okay, number one, Jesus says to the

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Jews, you destroy this body, or this temple, referring to the temple of his body, you agree? And I will what?

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Raise it up. Okay, so why did Jesus come there in the first place?

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Well, you've got to answer that question, because now you're asking another question. You can't answer a question with a question. Did Jesus tell the truth when he said to the

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Jews, referring to the temple of his body, that you destroy it and in three days I will raise it up?

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Jesus can't raise himself. Well, again, once again, you're saying that.

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That's your claim. Jesus' claim is that he... The scripture says that God raised him up. And Jesus. No, it didn't say

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God and Jesus. Well, let's broaden it. Okay. Did Jesus say, you destroy this body, referring to his body as a temple, and I will raise it up?

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Did he say that? Yes, he said. Thank you. Okay. Then that answers right there.

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But see, you're not... Did Jesus say,

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I will raise it up? Yes or no? Yes, he did. Then did he do it or not? No, he did not. Okay, so he lied.

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Once again, two times you have to say Jesus lied. Jesus was raised up by his

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Father. But then, once again, I showed you that it says that Jesus said he raised himself up as well.

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But see, that's the same logic you're using with the Holy Spirit. The difficulty is here is that you keep using the word logic.

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And you're using your logic. I'm using anybody's logic. Can a dead man raise himself?

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If he's God, he certainly can. But Jesus isn't God. Well, I'll show you. Then how do you reconcile

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Thomas falling down before Jesus and saying, halkerios mu, haltheos mu, and worships Jesus?

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What does Jesus say to Satan in the temptation? You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.

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And here you have Thomas falling down before Jesus, calling him, my Lord and my God, and worships him.

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And what does Jesus say to him? Blessed are you. So that made Jesus God.

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I'm just giving you one example. I'll give you John 8 .58. John 8 .58. Jesus says, before Abraham was, ego eimi, I am. He calls himself

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Jehovah God. Before Abraham was, where was Jesus? When Abraham was a man on the earth. Fully God.

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Eternally God. Right there. Yeah. No, where was Jesus at when Abraham was a man on the earth?

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Jesus is the eternal God, so I'd say he's everywhere at all times. And just real fast, how do you reconcile that?

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Well, in the Scripture, when you talk about Abraham before you was. Before Abraham was,

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I am. He was in heaven. No, no, I'm talking about where he was. Jesus took the name of Jehovah God and applied it to himself.

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No, he did not. Well, why do you think the Jews tried to kill him? The Jews tried to kill him because he said he was the

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Son of God. No, it says John 8 .58. If you know the passage, John 8 .58. It says, before Abraham was, ego eimi,

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I am. And it says they picked up stones to kill him. And just a little bit later, Jesus says, let me quote

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Jesus again. Jesus says to the Jews who were going to kill him again, he says, many good works have I shown you from the

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Father. For which of these do you stone me? And they said, for thy good works we stone thee not, but for blasphemy. And that thou, being a man, makest thyself

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God. He called himself Yahweh. The Septuagint's translation of Jehovah saying,

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I am, was ego eimi. Jesus says to the Jews, before Abraham was, ego eimi,

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I am. And they pick up stones to kill him. So, you know what?

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This is pointless. Why is it pointless? Because all you're doing is going around in circles. I'm giving you verses.

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Call Michael and tell him to come get us. Because we ain't getting no place yet.