TLP 493: Are Older Children in Charge of Younger Children, Part 1 | birth order and authority

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Do older kids really have authority over the younger ones? What are the consequences of such thinking? Today AMBrewster open the Scriptures to inform our family’s understanding of sibling authority.Truth.Love.Parent. is a podcast of Truth.Love.Family., an Evermind Ministry.Support our 501(c)(3) by becoming a TLP Friend: https://www.truthloveparent.com/donate.htmlJoin the conversation with AMBrewster on Wisdom: https://joinwisdom.audio/ambrewsterDiscover the following episodes by clicking the titles or navigating to the episode in your app:TLP 420: Children and Authority | the biggest parenting challenges you will face, Part 4 https://www.truthloveparent.com/taking-back-the-family-blog/tlp-420-children-and-authority-the-biggest-parenting-challenges-you-will-face-part-4 TLP 7: Stop Being the Leader! https://www.truthloveparent.com/taking-back-the-family-blog/stop-being-the-leader TLP 237: What is Your Child's Sin? https://www.truthloveparent.com/taking-back-the-family-blog/tlp-237-what-is-your-childs-sin A Parent’s 5 Jobs Series https://www.truthloveparent.com/a-parents-5-jobs-series.html TLP 94: How to Train Your Child to Stay with God https://www.truthloveparent.com/taking-back-the-family-blog/tlp-94-how-to-train-your-child-to-stay-with-god Click here for Today’s Episode Notes and Transcript: https://www.truthloveparent.com/taking-back-the-family-blog/tlp-493-are-older-children-in-charge-of-younger-children-part-1-birth-order-and-authority Click here for our free Parenting Course: https://www.truthloveparent.com/store/c25/tlp-parenting-coursesLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthLoveParent/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.love.parent/Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TruthLoveParentFollow AMBrewster on Facebook: https://fb.me/TheAMBrewsterFollow AMBrewster on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrewsterhome/Follow AMBrewster on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AMBrewsterPin us on Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/TruthLoveParent/Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTHV-6sMt4p2KVSeLD-DbcwClick here for more of our social media accounts: https://www.truthloveparent.com/presskit.htmlNeed some help? Write to us at [email protected].

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TLP 494: Are Older Children in Charge of Younger Children, Part 2 | birth order and admonition

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Maturity has nothing to do with age, so the question has to be asked, if age does not equate to maturity, what is the mark of maturity?
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Parenting isn't about us. In fact, parenting isn't even about our kids. Parenting is just one way
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Christian dads and moms are to worship God. So welcome to the Truth Love Parent Podcast, where we train dads and moms to give
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God the preeminence in their parenting. I'm your host, AM Brewster, and today we're going to talk about something that occurs in nearly every home across the globe.
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In one way, it makes sense, but when we look at the scriptures, this common practice starts to reveal some holes.
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What is this common practice of which I speak? Well, it's the habit of putting older children in charge of younger children.
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Sometimes this happens when the parents are around, but often this occurs when neither parent is going to be present.
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Now don't jump to any conclusions about what we're going to discuss today. I hate for you to leap it before you look.
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Over my 15 years of family counseling, I have found this practice can work very well, but can also backfire in a big way.
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So since sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, there's obviously more involved than just mere age and authority.
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Therefore, we need to look at the factors, the consequences, and the wisdom of God in order to know if our kids should be given authority over each other and how we can teach our children to view themselves and their siblings in such cases.
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So this two -part series is going to look at the age of our children as it relates to their authority and admonition.
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But before we dive in, please follow Truth Love Parent on your favorite social media sites. We love curating only the best verses, quotes, articles, and images to help you parent for the glory of God.
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And remember that we always provide free episode notes, transcripts, and related resources with each episode so that you can continue your study.
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Okay, now by way of transition, let me ask you, did your parents ever put you in charge of your siblings? Were you ever the low man on the totem pole?
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And how did all that work out for you? Let's start by considering, number one, the nature of maturity.
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The vast majority of people in the world equate maturity with age. I think this is probably the reason we tend to put older siblings in charge of the younger ones.
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Now I get it. It makes sense. The older the person is, the more mature they should be. They should have more knowledge and understanding.
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They should have more experience using that knowledge and understanding. And therefore, older people should be able to make better decisions than younger people.
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And that's right. They should. In fact, the Bible assumes this progression. First Corinthians 14 .20
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equates immature thinking with youth. Brethren, do not be children in your thinking, yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature.
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First Corinthians 13 .11 should be very familiar. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child.
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When I became a man, I did away with childish things. Proverbs 16 .31 teaches us that a gray head is a crown of glory.
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It is found in the way of righteousness. And Job 12 .12 observes, Wisdom is with aged men, with long life is understanding.
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And this is why Leviticus 19 .31 commands the children of Israel, You shall rise up before the gray -headed and honor the aged.
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But though it could easily be taught and expected that the older you are, the more mature you should be, does the number of years traveled around the sun always equate to increased maturity?
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And the answer is, indubitably, no. We all know people who are far more immature than many people younger than they.
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Let me throw out just a couple shocking examples from Scripture. Martha and Mary, Joseph and all of his older brothers.
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How about Cain and Abel? Each of these couplets are made up of younger sibling far more mature than the older ones.
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First Corinthians 3 .1 -3 reads, And I, brethren, could not speak to you as spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ.
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I gave you milk to drink, not solid food, for you are not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still fleshly.
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For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly? And are you not walking like mere men?
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You see, though a person may be considered physically immature or physically mature, actual maturity has nothing to do with age, and it's not guaranteed to increase as a person grows older.
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So the question has to be asked, if age does not equate to maturity, what is the mark of maturity?
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Well, maturity is simply a measurement. Whereas age is the measurement of the length of your life, maturity is the measure of how wise a person is.
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You should remember that what wisdom is. If someone learns something, understands it, and puts it to Christ -honoring use in his life, he is mature.
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Ephesians 4 .13 tells us what the standard of maturity is, Until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the
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Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to whom?
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The fullness of Christ. This is why Hebrews 5 .14 tells us, But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.
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And now let's be reminded of 1 Corinthians 14 .20, Brethren, do not be children in your thinking, yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature.
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The same word translated mature in this passage is translated perfect in James 1 .2 -4,
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Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
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And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect, mature, and complete, lacking in nothing.
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And this is the same word Jesus uses in Matthew 5 .48 when he sets this high biblical expectation. Therefore, you are to be perfect, as your heavenly
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Father is perfect. We could say, you are to be mature, as your heavenly Father is mature.
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So yes, it would be appropriate to assume that since your oldest child has been taught and reproved more often, they should know and understand more.
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And it would be right to expect that they would, therefore, apply that knowledge to their lives in a wise way, thereby being mature.
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But is that really what happens? Is that the reality in your home? Maybe it is, maybe it's not.
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And just because a child has been taught and reproved more often than the others doesn't mean they're mature.
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However, the degree to which the child has participated in the correction and training stages of parenting are indicators of true wisdom and maturity.
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Along these very lines, I strongly encourage you to check out our Parents 5 Job series and episode 94,
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How to Train Your Child to Stay with God. They're all about how parenting is designed to increase maturity in our kids, but also how it's not just about our parenting.
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A good example from my past is my sister and I. I'm three years older than she is, but my sister was far more spiritually mature than I was for many, many years.
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When we were in high school, if you needed to trust my sister or I to make wise choices for themselves and the other, well, you wouldn't have chosen me.
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So Erin, which one of you is more mature now? Well, I suppose you'll have to figure that one out for yourself. And I believe if we contemplate hard enough, we can think of examples where the younger sibling would have been a better authority figure than one of the older siblings.
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But of course, we probably wouldn't have put the younger one in charge because we knew the older kids probably wouldn't have submitted to the younger sibling anyway.
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And that is one of the very damaging consequences of believing that authority has anything to do at all with age.
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Now before we move on, let me make this application. Please, if you have to leave your kids alone for any amount of time, do not put the older one in charge simply because they're older.
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Whatever child you put in charge needs to be mature enough to do the job. And the job of any good authority is to make it easy to do right and hard to do wrong, to keep everyone as physically and spiritually safe as possible.
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So if no child in the family is really capable of accomplishing those tasks, they probably shouldn't be left alone without a mature leader.
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You want to entrust that kind of leadership to the one or ones who are actually physically and spiritually mature enough to lead by example.
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Now, all of that is really important, and though I wish we could simply teach these concepts to our kids and be done, we can't.
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There's still one really huge issue that needs to be addressed. In fact, it's a far bigger issue than putting a spiritually immature child in charge.
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And it has to do with number two, the nature of authority. A. The world's understanding of authority.
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Merriam -Webster defines an authority as a person in command, and it defines to command as to exercise a dominating influence over.
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Well, who exactly deserves to have a dominating influence over anyone else? In our world, authority is viewed as an inherent right tied to any number of factors.
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As we've already observed, many people believe they have the right to lead and or command others by virtue of their age.
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However, we know that finances, popularity, titles, physical strength, ownership, and the like are all used to exercise authority over others.
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Don't touch. That's mine. I'm the father, police officer, president, boss. Do what
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I say. I'm a superstar. I don't have to listen to you. My army is bigger. Surrender.
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And each of these applications all tie back to power. Because of my size, age, weight, influence, title, bank account, etc.,
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I am more powerful than you. And because I'm more powerful than you, you have no choice but to do what
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I say lest there be negative consequences in exchange for your resistance. This is called punishment.
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When you really step back and look at the world's understanding of authority, you see that it all boils down to might makes right.
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Whoever can exercise the most power gets the most power. This is why wars are fought, riots ensue, yelling matches start, murder occurs, and the innumerable other examples of sinful exercises of strength.
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Now, please understand, strength is not inherently sinful. It's not bad to have any of the things that the people use to justify their authority.
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If we use those things to the glory of God, they are beneficial and helpful and necessary. Therefore, the real question is, what is
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B, God's understanding of authority? The true nature of authority actually does have a lot to do with power, but it's far more than that.
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As it happens, the one true authority of the entire cosmos does happen to be the most powerful being in existence, but he's not in charge simply because he's strong and can bend everyone to his will, whether he's right or wrong.
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He's in charge because he's holy. God is set apart from all that is wrong, wicked, false, destructive, and fatal.
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He's in charge because he's perfectly equipped to always be right, and isn't that the person you want in charge?
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The person who's always going to make the right decision for every other person? And as I said before, it just so happens that God is also the most powerful being in the cosmos, but his power doesn't put him in charge.
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His perfection does. This means that, again, biblically speaking, authority, as defined by God, goes back to maturity, not might.
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Maturity is defined as holiness, which is in agreement with God. As I often say, if you want to be right 100 % of the time, just agree with God 100 % of the time, and if you are right 100 % of the time, then you definitely should be in charge.
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However, though agreeing with God definitely makes you mature enough to be in charge, God does give authority to people who don't agree with him.
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So let's consider number three, the nature of inherent authority. Something that is inherent is there by nature or habit.
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For example, by nature of his highly superior intellect, the Wizard of Oz believed the scarecrow had inherent leadership ability.
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Well, the biblical concept of inherent authority is quite simple. By God's design, there are people who he deems should be in charge simply because of the nature of the position in which they serve.
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For example, at the beginning of time, God put husbands in charge of the family by virtue of the fact that he's the husband.
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Since then, God has given authority to kings and presidents precisely because to be a king or a president is to be in a position of authority.
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And he's put high priests in charge of the children of Israel under the old covenant and pastors in charge of local assemblies under the new covenant.
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All throughout the Bible, we see clear examples that groups of individuals need a hierarchical authority structure at the tip of which is a singular man.
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Now we are not going to delve into all the questions and complaints this conjures at this time. We're simply stating the biblical reality and I'll devote a number of episodes to these concepts more in the future.
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However, when it comes to inherent authority in children, you can search the scriptures high and low and you will find that no child is ever granted inherent authority over any other child by virtue of any character trait, be it age or intellect or birth order.
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In fact, our wonderfully counter -cultural God more often than not has chosen the younger and the weaker to rule over the older and the stronger.
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Therefore, number four, the consequences of inherent authority. When you teach your kids that birth order or size or financial status or any other tangible reality imbues inherent authority in someone, you're not only lying to your kids, you're setting them up for lots of issues.
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A, you're setting the older children up with very dangerous concepts of leadership. You're teaching them that their might makes right.
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You're also setting a precedent for how they look at the authorities above them. Are they going to view their necessary submission to you, the parent, as a simple consequence of the fact that you're older and bigger than they are?
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What happens when you're no longer bigger than they? B, you're setting your kids up to obey bad leaders.
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Hopefully you've taught your kids that they need to obey their authority. But what if the older sibling clearly isn't mature enough to have the job and they're telling the younger ones to do things they shouldn't?
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For example, anything that precedes, don't tell mom and dad. The younger children may believe that they have to obey simply because the older child is quote -unquote in charge.
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C, inherent authority, more often than not, makes it about me versus you instead of us following God.
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You need to do what I say or else instead of let's please the Lord together. When anyone, a husband, father, mother, pastor, sibling, teacher, president, or king tries to exercise mere inherent authority based off power, they're often exercising the wrong authority for the wrong reasons.
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This neither sets them up for success nor makes it easy for the people under them to follow. It's hard to follow people who do this because the individual is ultimately making it all about them and we're not supposed to worship anyone other than God.
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Either that or the individual is demanding that we do something wrong, which of course we shouldn't. So, no, your kids don't have any inherent authority over their siblings.
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But even if they did, inherent authority isn't enough. There is no inherent authority on earth that is to be obeyed all of the time under every circumstance.
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Peter told the religious leaders of the day, we obey God rather than man. This means that when someone on whom
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God has laid inherent authority by virtue of their position expects the people he's leading to sin, no one has to obey him because he's not submitting to God.
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During our pilot season, I did an episode called Stop Being the Leader, which dealt with this very reality. God is the authority, and as we follow
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God, he expects for us to call others to follow us. Like Paul said, be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
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And this is what we call inherited authority. So now let's consider number five, the nature of inherited authority.
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Inherited authority is anything but inherent. There is potentially nothing in the individual themselves, no power of any kind, that would qualify them in any earthly sense to lead.
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The authority is merely passed on to them for a time and is an extension of another, higher authority.
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For example, in the martial arts, I, the fifth degree black belt, has all the knowledge, experience, power, and so on to lead the class.
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Each student is expected to do what I say. That's my inherent authority. But sometimes
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I'll split the class into smaller groups for more personal training, and when I do that, I will call one or more students to the front of the class.
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I then have the class bow to me, showing me the honor and respect of my position, and then we all turn to the student
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I'm putting in charge, and we bow to him or her. In that moment, I have transferred my authority to them.
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They've inherited my authority until at what time I take it back from them, and my students understand the significance of this transition.
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The class realizes that they are to obey this student in the same way that they would obey me. And the student who has inherited my authority recognizes the significant weight that rests on their shoulders to lead in the way
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I would lead. Otherwise, they're abusing the authority. Now, in order to lead as I would, the student must have knowledge of the nature of inherited authority, how
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I exercise my authority, as well as a ton of humility to make it about my authority and not about the student's authority.
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And that's exactly what God expects from us with our kids, and I would argue that is exactly what we should expect from our kids with each other.
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My son is two and a half years older than my daughter, but my wife and I have never left the house and had to proclaim that Mike is in charge.
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I'll explain why later. But if we did have to do that, I would teach my son that it's his responsibility to not boss his sister around, but to remind her of my expectations in the exact same way that it's my responsibility as the father not to boss him around, but to remind him of God's expectations.
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Now, before we continue, you might be thinking, well, Aaron, based off that definition of inherited authority, wouldn't you say that parental authority is more inherited than inherent?
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And if you're making that observation, you're understanding the most important part of all this. Yes, parents are given by God inherent authority.
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Even if we don't submit to God and we demand that our kids obey us for our own carnal reasons, our children still have the responsibility to obey us as long as we're not asking them to sin.
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But the best kind of human authority is inherited authority. And it's our submission to our inherited authority that gives our inherent authority any power.
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And the same is true for our kids. So let's get back to them. If we put this into practice in our homes, what are six, the consequences of inherited authority?
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When we teach our kids about inherited authority, they should learn the following lessons. A. Any authority they may be given is not inherent in them.
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It has nothing to do with their power over their siblings. B. When the parent gives inherited authority, it has everything to do with which child will most maturely exercise that authority the best.
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And this means C. The one in charge is not leading for themselves. They're leading as the parent would, which should be exactly how
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God would. In fact, hopefully D. The child with the inherited authority can skip the parent's authority altogether and simply lead in the inherited authority of God.
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We'll talk more about this and what this looks like next time. And E. The siblings who are not in charge need to recognize that the one in charge is not more special than they or more powerful than they.
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In a way, they're simply more trustworthy to submit to God's expectations for their lives and lead others to do the same.
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This understanding completely changes the standard and shows that anyone can achieve that level of maturity. Therefore, you've removed the temptation to quote -unquote disobey my brother or sister because it all comes back to choosing to disobey
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God. The weight is more significant because the weight should go back up to the original authority himself.
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And F. The one who inherits the authority has the opportunity to mature in the humility necessary to submit their authority to God's.
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Now I mentioned earlier that my wife and I have never put either of our children in charge of the other. Why is that?
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First, neither child has any inherent authority over the other. It doesn't matter that Mike is older. Second, the scriptures are clear that both children are expected by God to submit to him, lead by example, and to admonish and rebuke sin in others.
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That means that when we leave the house, both children have the responsibility to use their inherited authority from God to lead the other in Christlikeness.
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And since neither of them has inherent authority over the other, Lord willing, it's God's will that wins out, not the capricious will of either child.
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And when you have a family of children who are all doing their best to submit to God and their parents' authority, you actually don't really need to put anyone in charge because they all have the same inherited authority and responsibility from God.
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But Aaron, you say, that's not how it works in my family. I have at least one child who is not interested in pleasing the
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Lord. Okay, so when we're done with this two -part episode, we're going to discuss giving consequences to our kids.
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But since that idea often plays into the role of authority, I do want to mention it briefly here. Biblically speaking, your children do not have the inherent authority to ground, give corporal punishment, or hand out any type of consequences to their siblings.
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And I would argue that parents should rarely, if ever, give that inherited authority to their children. When parents throw the mantle of authority on the oldest child, often tacitly expecting that the older will hand out punishments as necessary, they invite so many problems.
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But we're going to discuss this in more detail in our next episode. Either way, we definitely need to equip our kids with a correct understanding of biblical consequences and which ones they have the inherited authority to dispense, if any.
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Now again, when it comes to having to put a child in charge because one or more of the aren't going to seek to do right on their own, how does that work?
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Again, we're going to have to talk more about this next time, but I will say this. When it comes to our children and the authority we give them over their siblings, we really need to carefully evaluate what we're asking our child to do.
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I would never put a martial arts student in charge of the class who was incapable or ill -equipped to deal with any issues that may come up.
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It would be unloving for me to put a well -behaved student in a boy's home in charge of the other ten rebellious teens in the room.
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And it's really often the result of laziness and lack of love when we saddle our more mature kids with one or more siblings who absolutely will not listen to the more mature sibling without threatening and punishment.
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The question you really need to ask is whether whatever you're about to go and do is really that important. I'm going to argue that we parents are not using our inherent or inherited authority well if we put our kids into a situation where they're guaranteed to fail.
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Now, before we discuss the next point, I hope you're seeing the massive benefits of inherited authority over inherent.
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It roots the child's authority in God and his earthly representatives, dad and mom. And the right application of this authority will call the entire family to a higher plane of leadership and obedience.
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Now, let's look at a couple quick examples of this inherited authority from the Bible. 7. Biblical Examples of Counter -Cultural
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Inherited Authority First, as I mentioned before, there are all the times that God chose the younger children to rule over or have special place over the older children.
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Shem, Isaac, Jacob, Ephraim, Moses, David, Gideon, and Solomon are all easy examples.
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But honestly, these examples occur when the children were already grown. And there are non -familial examples of this as well.
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Both Timothy and Titus were younger men whom the Lord put in charge of their respective churches. They were both expected by the
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Lord to exercise their inherited authority from Paul and God over the older men and women in their congregations.
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But still, that's adults interacting outside of the family. So, though there are a number of examples in the scripture of children becoming kings over Israel, I actually think for the sake of our discussion today, the best example of this is likely
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Joseph and his brothers. According to Genesis 37 .2, Joseph was 17 years old when his father put him in charge of his older brothers, men who had already had families of their own.
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Now, you may be asking, Joseph was in charge of his brothers? Well, there are a number of contextual clues to the fact that Joseph likely had a supervisory role over his siblings, including the coat his father had given him and the expectation that Joseph provide his father with a report on his brothers.
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And all of this is further substantiated by the fact that God had already given the teenage Joseph two dreams that he would one day exercise authority over his whole family.
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The fact of the matter was that Jacob knew that Joseph was more mature than his brothers. He was far more trustworthy.
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His brothers had proven their rampant sinful immaturity over and over, and though we know Joseph was a sinner like us, he's one of the very short list of people about whom the
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Bible doesn't speak negatively in any way, shape, or form, and we can assume from that that he was a very mature individual.
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So it makes perfect sense that Joseph was trusted to supervise and lead his siblings. In addition to that, even though he was so young,
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Potiphar put him in charge of his whole house, the jailer put him in charge of the jail, even though technically
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Joseph was in the jail himself, and the Pharaoh put him in charge of the country all before the age of thirty.
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Joseph may not have been as old as many people who could have been considered his competition for authority in each of these situations, but because he exercised his inherited authority so well, even unbelievers recognized
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Joseph's maturity and willingly submitted to it. So let's review. Number one, authority is a question of maturity, and maturity is a question of submission to God.
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Two, according to the Bible, no child has been given inherent authority over their siblings. Unless of course,
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I guess they were made king of the world and that, never mind. On the other hand, number three, all of God's people have been given inherited authority to speak the truth in love, to admonish, rebuke, reprove, train, teach, and the like.
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And four, our children will thrive much better when we teach these concepts to our kids and expect them to function within them.
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Now, as I mentioned, next time we're going to look at some really practical examples of how this works in the home. As we consider what this inherited authority looks like in your house, we're going to focus on your children's responsibility to admonish each other, and we're going to see many ways that works itself out in your family.
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