RLCF Discipleship Conference 2022 Q&A

Jesus’ Question-and-Answer Ministry

You know, in times like this, I wonder how Jesus spoke to 10 ,000 people. He was no weakling. He had a powerful voice that he would sometimes sit in a boat and speak across to a huge crowd. We're all weaklings compared to him.

He lived a tough life and he was strong. So, question-answer time. Jesus had many question-answer times. He not only preached, very often after he preached, people would ask questions and many times he would answer them.

If his disciples asked, he always answered. When the Pharisees asked, he did not always answer because he knew that their hearts were not right. So, then he would sometimes ask them a question and return and not answer them.

But I believe these questions have been asked by sincere brothers and sisters, but our time is limited. There are about 60 questions here. And so, if you have 60 minutes, it's going to take one minute to answer each question and you're not going to get a full answer, which is a good thing.

So that you will seek the Lord and go to him and say, Lord, what Brother Zach said doesn't answer me fully, please answer me fully, which is a good thing if you go to the Lord. So some things are very easy to answer like, should foot washing be observed or is it a symbol of serving others?

Foot-Washing as Service Rather Than Ritual

You know, Jesus spoke about that in John chapter 13. Jesus always acted on the basis of necessity. In those days, like in India, most of the time in India when I go to the villages, I'm always wearing slippers.

I never wear shoes in the villages. Nobody wears it. They don't even own them. And there are no tarred roads there. There's all dusty roads, exactly like Nazareth and Jerusalem. So feet get dirty very easily.

And it's a very comforting thing when somebody washes your feet and early in those days, rich people had slaves who would wash the feet of guests as soon as they came in. And Jesus wanted a place where to have the last supper.

But he told the owner of the house, don't, we don't want anybody else there. So he didn't put any slaves. He kept the bucket of water there, but there were no slaves. So their feet were all dirty. He was not going through a ritual.

Today when people wash feet, it's a ritual. That was not a ritual. It was a necessity. So there was no slaves. Everybody looked around, who's going to wash our feet? And then Jesus said, well, I'm the only slave here.

So he picked up the bucket and washed and he said, you must do exactly like I did. That's what he said in John 13. And how do we apply it today? There's a dirty job to be done, a job that slaves do. The lowest people in society do that job.

And in India, I would say today it is cleaning the toilets, cleaning the restrooms. So I've said in our church, you want to be a part of our church, you must be willing to clean the restrooms. I said, I've done it myself.

In our church building, I've cleaned the restrooms and I would still do it today. That to me is the equivalent of washing the feet. Washing the feet is a ritual. You get those people clean feet, they take off their shoes and socks and you wash it and put it back.

What's that? Meaningless. Do the dirty jobs for one another. That's the meaning of it. Another question. RLCF, this church, has been an answer to the prayer of my husband and I since last year. We have a deep desire to fellowship physically with a like-minded church, but there isn't one in our area.

Fellowship in House Churches and Online Gatherings

Is there anything we can do? Yeah. Be faithful in the little things. And is it okay to join just a broadcast on Sunday? That is second best. This is the first in-person conference that I have attended for two and a half years.

And I think even here, they've not had one over the last many years. But we thank God for in-person. I mean, we could have met on Zoom and seen each other's faces. But you can see in the last two days what a tremendous difference it is just to be able to talk to one another and meet with one another and just see all the happy faces of people from different parts of the country.

I've been encouraged meeting different people from different places who I never even thought there was a church over there or people interested in that. And the thing that excites me most is people meeting in house churches.

Amazing. That's how we started 47 years ago. All the churches, all our CFC churches, almost every single one of them, and we have over a hundred of them, started in a house. And poor people. And very often, just three or four people meeting, five, six meeting, and gradually it becomes more and more.

And then they have to rent a place because the houses are small, they can't fit. But it always started in a home because it's the atmosphere of home. The early church always met in a home. So don't be discouraged if there are only two or three.

We started with two. Two is the minimum. And if you don't even have two, you pray that God will bring you one more person, one more family perhaps, of like mind, and God can do that. And then pray that God will, if it is His will, plant a church there or somewhere nearby where you can fellowship together.

That is the best always. Second best is to join online. And many churches announce times of fasting and prayer. Is that a good thing? Or is it a violation of Matthew 6 which says we should not let other people know when we are fasting?

Public Fasting and the Motive of the Heart

You know, the words Jesus spoke there in Matthew 6 of don't tell other people when you're praying or fasting is seeking honor. When you let people know that you're praying or you're fasting or you're giving money.

Jesus was against their seeking honor. But otherwise, we have to announce a prayer meeting. Otherwise, how will people come for the prayer meeting if we don't announce it? And time of fasting, if the church decides a time of fasting is necessary in the early days of the church, they did have times of fasting in the early days of our first church in Bangalore.

We had many times, whenever there was a holiday, we'd have a time of fasting from nine to three. And we saw some amazing things in those days, demons cast out and people delivered and baptized in the Holy Spirit.

So we had wonderful times of fasting and prayer, very, very blessed. But we had to announce it. Otherwise, how will people know that we're meeting at such and such a time, that's perfectly okay. It's the motive.

Always remember, when you read Matthew 6, it's the motive that God sees. What is your motive in telling people that please come for a time of prayer? Are women allowed to preach? This is an important question.

Women, Prophecy, and the Meaning of New Testament Preaching

We want to go by scripture. You know, in scripture, the word used for preaching is not preaching. It is prophesying. And we think prophecy as predicting the future. Predicting the future is the Old Testament prophecy.

The Old Testament prophets said this is going to happen, but not that also. John the Baptist never predicted the future. Many Old Testament prophets pronounce judgment on God's people, but they never predicted the future.

Some did. So prophecy was not always predicting the future, even in the Old Testament. Elijah, one of the greatest prophets, he predicted nothing about the future. Likewise Elisha, but they were great prophets.

What is prophesying? First of all, 1 Corinthians 14, verse 3. One who prophesies, this is New Testament prophecy, don't ever get confused by a lot of false teaching in some churches as to what prophecy is.

Prophecy predicting the future is not the meaning of prophecy mentioned in the New Testament. The only person who predicted the future mentioned in the New Testament was Agabus. And he's only one person mentioned, and he did something very limited and only mentioned twice.

All the other prophesying in the New Testament is what is mentioned in 1 Corinthians 14, 3. One who prophesies, it could be anyone, speaks to people for edification, which is building up, exhortation, which is challenging, and consolation, which is comfort.

So anyone who preaches, whether it's for 1 minute, 2 minutes, or 1 hour, if it is to encourage people, challenge people, and build them up spiritually, that is New Testament prophesying or what we would call today preaching.

It's the same thing. Anything that is spoken to encourage, and challenge, and build up. Okay, who can preach in that way? 1 Corinthians 11, verse 4, every man, whenever he prays or preaches, should not have anything on his head.

The Jews, if you see the Jews, even picture of Jews today praying, they always have something on their head. Every single Jew has that. And I'm sorry to say some Christians who work among the Jews imitate that and put that as a disobeying scripture.

It says every man who has something on his head when he prays or preaches is disgracing his head. And his head, it says in verse 3, is Christ. Christ is the head of every man. Read verses together. Christ is the head of every man.

So when a man covers his head when he prays, he's covering Christ. He's disgracing Christ. So I'm surprised all these Christians who work among Jews covering their head and disgracing Christ. They don't seem to read scripture.

They don't obey scripture. That's why we are very strict that a man should not cover his head when he prays because this verse 3, Christ is the head of man. And when a man does not cover his head, he's symbolizing Christ must not be covered in the church.

But a woman, it says in verse 3 also, man is the head of the woman. Did you see that? Man is the head of the woman. That's not my idea. The Holy Spirit says. And so if a woman uncovers her head, she's saying thereby, man must be glorified in the church.

Rubbish. Man must not be glorified in the church, but every woman who keeps her head uncovered and her head is Christ, symbolizing her head is the man, symbolizing man's glory must be proclaimed in the church.

We are against that. That's why we teach what the Bible says here. A woman, if she prays with her head uncovered when she preaches or prays, is disgracing her head because that's the same as having her head shaved.

So here it says that if a woman does not cover her head, she should shave her head. She has two options, either cover her head with a veil or shave it. It's up to her which she wants to do. But if a woman does not cover her head, then she should have her hair cut off.

It's amazing how chapter 11 has got two parts. One is about the way women veiling their head and the other is about breaking of bread from verse 23 onwards. And it's amazing how so many people are so strict about the second part and say that's for everybody.

But they come to the first part and say, oh, no, no, that is only for that part. How in the world can we divide up scripture like saying something is for some people not for us or some other period of time?

I don't understand it. So what I wanted to point out to answer this question is here a man can preach verse four and verse five. A woman can also preach. Read it carefully. A woman can pray or prophesy, but she must veil her head when she preaches.

So we don't teach that a woman cannot share God's word. But we do teach what the Bible says also in 1 Timothy and chapter 2. In 1 Timothy and chapter 2, and that is verse 12. I do not allow a woman to teach.

Teaching is a position of authority. There's a lot of difference between preaching. What is preaching? Saying something to encourage people, saying something to challenge people. A sister can get up and give a testimony of what the Lord has done in her life, of what she got from some verse of scripture which really blessed her, which challenges people.

I encourage sisters to do that. In a big meeting, it's not possible perhaps, but in small weekly meetings that we have in our different homes, in our church, brothers and sisters can share what God's on their heart, but they cannot teach.

Teaching is a position of authority, saying this is what scripture says. It's a spirit in which a woman speaks that is important. Let me give you an example. For example, a man gets up and says, if a woman gets up and says, brothers and sisters, it says in Philippians 4, 6, we must not be anxious.

Why in the world are you anxious? Imagine a woman sitting here and saying that. Doesn't the Bible say you should not be anxious? Don't be anxious, it says. Let's trust the Lord. Commit our cause to the Lord.

Now here's another sister speaking on the same verse and says, brothers and sisters, I was reading Philippians 4, 6 the other day, and I saw how I should not be anxious. And the Lord really spoke to my heart.

How anxiety is not a good thing to have. And I have so many things to be worried about. And I realized I must not be anxious was committed to the Lord. Isn't that a good thing that we all seek to do that?

You see the different spirit in these women speaking the same verse, but one is the authority of a teacher and the other is sharing. And that is the type of prophesying, encouraging, challenging. I believe every sister should do that.

There may not be opportunity in a large gathering for all sisters to do that. So distinguish between preaching and teaching. I do not allow a woman to teach 1 Timothy 2, 12 or to exercise authority over a man but to be quiet.

That is a position we have taken in our church. And then is it OK to rejoin a church after having been put out and then repentance? That depends on the leaders of the church, whether you have set matters right.

Belonging, Shepherding, and Care for Young Women

I see in a church elders focus on shepherding the brothers and their families, but many young sisters don't have a sense of belonging in the church. Well, that's sad if there's no provision made for young sisters in your church.

That's a failure on part of the elders. See in many societies in India, it's not easy for a woman, sorry for a man to counsel a young sister. So I never do it myself unless I sit with a brother, another elder or along with my wife.

So it's good if older sisters or an elder speaks along with his wife, if his wife is spiritually minded or some older sisters take that responsibility. But we must not leave young sisters feeling that they don't belong to the church.

Even the little children must be made to feel they belong to the church. That's one thing I really have loved about our LCF. Every time I've come here and seen, even watched online many times, they get the children to stand up here once in a while and feel they are 100 a part of the church.

Every Sunday I watch this online and I see the young children coming up here and repeating the verses they've memorized. I don't care if they stumble and take one minute to say five words, it's okay. But the very fact that these small children, four, five, six years old, come up here and say something in the presence of the whole church, it's a real testimony.

It's showing them that you are a very important part of our church. And I believe every church should seek to make children and young brothers and sisters feel you may not be called to prophesy and teach and all that, but you're a part of the church.

You belong here. What's your opinion on church having a written statement of practice? I think it's very important to have it so that everybody knows what does this church believe. Because today, you know, in the first century, right at the beginning there was only one church on the day of Pentecost.

Written Statements of Church Practice

But through the years as things have developed and backsliding took place, when a church backslid, some people came out of it and started a new church. Then that backslid, some others came out of it. And like that there are thousands of churches today with various beliefs.

So when a person calls, when a building or a group calls itself a church, we want to know what do you believe? There's even a church called the Church of Satan. So what do you believe? So it's good to have that statement written down like we have in our website so that people know what we stand for, so you know what you're coming to hear.

I mean, this is what we stand for. If you don't agree with us, find some other church that agrees with you. But don't try to come here and try to change what we believe. You're not going to change. And it's good to have a statement written down.

Protecting Family and Christian Self-Defense

Another question is concerning family life. Is it a Christian's responsibility to protect his family from harm at all costs, even if he has to resort to killing an attacker? This is a very difficult question.

I believe that we need to pray to protect ourselves. You know, you read in the news now the number of people being killed in this country. Little children and all that in schools and all over. Just because there's access for anybody, any Tom, Dick and Harry can have a gun.

And some of them are very irresponsible. Youngs, even 17, 18-year-old is very often irresponsible. Or they get very angry and then they decide to go and kill somebody. It's a very sad thing. So we have to be very careful as Christians that we don't encourage that type of, I'm not here to pass laws for this country.

That's not, I'm not a politician. But as a Christian, what is the position? We can defend ourselves, but we must not attack. Is it right to defend ourselves? Luke's Gospel, Chapter 22. They were just about to go.

They were, you know, Jesus is about to go to the Garden of Gethsemane where they were going to be taken. And so Jesus was telling them, I'll just get you this verse, one minute, where he says, if you don't have a sword, sell your garment and buy one.

Yeah, here it is, Luke 22. It's a long chapter. It comes in the middle. They had just finished eating the Lord's Supper. And then the Lord said, imagine Jesus telling his disciples, we are going to the Garden of Gethsemane.

It's the very next thing that happens. And they knew the enemy is going to come with swords and weapons and all that. And the disciples are there. So Jesus said, listen. Verse 36, the last part. If you don't have a sword, sell your garment and buy a sword.

What for? To attack? No. And then somebody said, Lord, we don't have to sell our garment. Verse 38, we already have two swords. He said, that's enough. He didn't say, throw them away. But then when in the garden, when Peter took out that sword and chopped off somebody's ear, he said, Peter, put it back.

He could say, Lord, but you told us to take the sword. I didn't tell you to bring the sword to attack people. I told you to bring the sword so that when somebody uses a sword against you, you don't lift up your hand and get hit in your hand.

Lift up your sword and defend yourself so that your hand doesn't get hit and broken. So that is the purpose. So I see very clearly when you see scripture with scripture, buy a sword, and they said, we got two swords, that's enough.

And Peter saying, using the sword, he said, don't use that sword. Putting two and two, both these verses together, I learned I can defend myself, but I must not attack. So now how we defend ourselves, it is, you know, when you have a sword, it's a temptation to attack.

So we have to be very restrained. If you have a gun, there's a temptation to use it. And Peter, if Peter had a gun, he'd have used it that day. But Jesus immediately healed the ear of that Malchus, whose ear Peter had cut off, showing that Jesus is against this type of fighting with people and taking, attacking.

So I believe we must pray for God's protection in an evil society. That is the best way. And I personally would not keep a gun in my house. I would believe that the Lord will take care of that. I'm not here to judge other people.

But I believe we should defend ourselves. And, but weapons that can be, you know, a sword is not as dangerous as a gun. And a sword, you may cut off a person's ear, but you don't kill a person with that.

It's not that easy. So therefore, I would, I'd say you've got to be very careful. We must defend ourselves, but just ask the Lord how you can do it in your situation. And whether you should kill, I would pray that the Lord will protect me from even killing a person accidentally on a road, in a, driving a car.

I never want to send a person into eternity. I don't even know whether the guy is saved or not. Imagine if I hit a man on the road and the guy is unconverted. I send him to hell. I say, Lord, protect me.

It's never happened to me. And I pray it'll never happen in my life. We should pray that we will never are agents to kill anyone even accidentally. But, so we must see each situation as it arises. How important is baptism?

Baptism is very important because Jesus commanded it. Anything that Jesus commanded, wailing the head, very important. The question in all these things is not is it an important command or an unimportant command.

The question is who said it. If God said it, the smallest little thing is important. Jesus said, not even a jot or a tittle will pass from the law till everything is fulfilled. So that's how we take God's word.

I don't pick and choose in God's word what I should obey and what I should not obey. When the government passes a law, for example, the rules of the road, what rules you should follow when driving on the road, I don't pick and choose which one I should follow, which I should not follow.

I follow all the rules of the road which the traffic police have laid down for a time. If they say there is some festival going on here, some bike race going on here, don't take these roads, what do I do?

I don't say I don't care for you, I've got to use these roads. No, I will respect those laws given by the police at that time and I say I won't use those roads. So why can't we obey God's word in these simple little things also, small little things.

So, Jesus said you must be born again and you must be baptized, very important. What is the proper time to be baptized when you are absolutely convinced that a person really knows the Lord. I believe a person can be born again even when they are 3 or 4 years old, a little child, sure, Christ can come into their heart.

But they are not mature enough to understand the meaning of baptism. They are not mature enough to take that decision for themselves. Baptism is a decision which a person must choose for himself and not because of pressure because all his friends got baptized.

I've seen that happen in some churches, all their friends got baptized, oh, I also let me get baptized and I've seen how they develop. They never develop, they are not even converted sometimes. So the parents must stop them.

They say, listen, don't get baptized because your friends are getting baptized. You must have a personal conviction. That is when a person is ready for baptism. And a child may not be ready, we've got to wait till, generally speaking, it's old enough to understand.

There is no age limit given in scripture, so I cannot make one. How should we end the time of, after disciplining a child, how should you end it? Hugging or kissing may seem a bit forced at that time.

Ending Child Discipline with Love

I'll tell you how I have ended my times of discipline of the children. After I discipline a child, I say, okay, let's kneel down and pray. There is no embarrassment there. A child may not feel like praying.

I don't ask him to pray. I pray. I say, Lord, I thank you for this child. I make that child feel loved. It's my child. And I put my arm around that child as I pray. And that child must feel loved. And then, whether he says Amen or not, he may be very upset at that time.

But at least he knows that I love him. That's important at the end of a time of discipline. Okay. How can you submit to a husband who is abusive or adulterous and when I have children, how do I show Christ-likeness in my relationship?

Abusive Marriage, Separation, and Church Discipline

It's very difficult when you have a difficult husband. I agree. But 1 Peter chapter 3 and verse 1 says that even if you have a husband who does not obey the word of God, you must submit to him. It's a pretty tough command, I must say.

If your husband is disobedient to God's word, win him without a word by your chaste behavior. It doesn't say here that you must submit. But be submissive, it says. Even if they are disobedient, in what way?

In the way you behave so that you can win him to Christ. The ultimate goal is to win him to Christ. But if a husband is physically hurting you, then I tell them, I will never encourage divorce. I'm 100 against divorce and divorced people getting remarried.

We've never permitted that in our church in all these 47 years. We've never had a divorce either. Because we are 100 against it. If you want a divorce, go to some other church. If you want a divorced person who wants to get married, go to some other church.

There are other churches that allow that. We don't allow it. Because I say, I didn't make these rules. Jesus said he's building his church. And when God told Noah to build the ark, he told, build it like this.

And Noah didn't say, well I think I'd better modify it a little bit here. A lot of Christians have modified the laws as if they are building the church. Jesus said, I will build my church and he has told us how to build it.

So very often, sometimes I'm very compassionate to some people who have suffered a lot in divorce. And I say, Lord, I'd really like to help them. But you made some laws. You told me how to build the ark.

I'm going to build it like you said it. And if people think I'm too strict in making the ark like this, in this shape and this size, let them think. I will do it like you said it. And I will have no...

The Lord will not be able to charge me with anything. In the final day, I have to answer for how I built my church. But where there is a danger of harm, I would tell them, without divorce, to live separately.

If necessary, seek help from your parents. And each situation is different. That's why I do not make a law. In all cases of abusive husbands or difficult wives, I'd say, I cannot make a law or a rule.

I would say what Jesus said about divorce and remarriage. But beyond that, I'd say each case has to be divided, I mean decided individually. So you don't make a standard rule. Because otherwise they'll take that and say, Brother Zach said this and they quote it.

And they cannot quote me because I say, in every one of these cases of divorce and separation, we deal with each case individually. Because very often somebody comes with a complaint, I'm hearing only one side.

Especially people who send us emails. I tell them, we will not answer an email on divorce. Because we haven't got the opportunity to meet the other side. You must go to a person and both persons talk to each other so you hear both sides of the story.

Just like any righteous judge would do. So we do not teach anything more than what Jesus said in Matthew Chapter 5, Matthew Chapter 19, Luke Chapter 16. Read those chapters and you will know what Jesus said about divorce and remarriage.

But to avoid abusive husbands who are trying to kill you perhaps or hurt you, it's perfectly alright to protect yourself from danger. But how to do it? Seek wisdom from some godly man. What should I do if I have relatives who are unequally yoked?

Unequally Yoked Relationships and Marriage Decisions

But they are convinced that it is God's will. Well, there are a lot of people who disobey God and think it is God's will. You can only pray for them. Can I give my daughter in marriage to a man who claims God has revealed to him that my daughter is to be his wife?

Garbage! Whenever anybody says, somebody told him from the scriptures that your daughter is to be my wife, absolute garbage, fit for the trash can. I don't listen to such people who come and say, God told me from the Bible.

I say, a father must give his daughter in marriage. Read 1 Corinthians Chapter 7. And if God wants that girl to be, the father will agree to it. Not just submit to some man who says, God told me from the Bible.

I have no respect for these people who come and say, God told me this and God told me that. I say, well, God will tell me as well. And I am the one who is responsible here. I am not going to listen to you.

I am not afraid of people who say, God told me this, quote this verse. So many people have come to me and said, quote this verse and that verse. So, don't be fooled by such people. How do we train our children to have spiritual goals more than academic goals?

Spiritual Values Alongside Education and Work

There is nothing wrong with doing well academically. Let me tell you that. Don't think that Christians teach people just to study the Bible. No. I wanted my children to study the Bible and to do well in school or college because they got to earn their living.

I mean, if we were living in a farming community like in the early days, I would say, no need college. We just farm and land. There is plenty of land. A father can divide his property between his children and they will divide it to their children.

They have got acres and acres of land in the olden days. It is not like that today. Today, most people don't even own their own house. So, what are the children going to do? There are no farms around.

They are not farming. They have got to find some means to support themselves. Otherwise, they will be homeless or a burden on society. And God does not want us to be homeless or a burden on society. So, then they must learn some trade.

Either they must live in a community where they work with their hands and that is the type of job they are qualified to see. Not every child has ability to work with their hands. For example, I never had much ability to work with my hands because I grew up in a different type of atmosphere which is more related to education and schools and colleges.

That is how I joined the military. So, if you find yourself living in a situation like that, you must allow your children to get an education so they can get a job. And if school education is not enough to get a job in your society, they probably need to go to college.

But at the same time, it does not affect their spiritual education or spiritual values. We must say, you must be a testimony for Christ in your school, in your college, in your place of work. Because God needs witnesses in every place.

In the highest levels of society, God needs a light shining for Him. So, we must train our children. That is how I have sought to train my children to be rooted and grounded in God's word, in the principles of God's word.

That is how I was in the Navy. I said, God wants a witness in the Navy and I want to be there. Until God called me out. So, we must train them to read the scriptures, teach them, more important than studying the scriptures, we must teach them God's values in our home.

What are the values of Christianity? And if you don't have a church that teaches it, teach them in your home. Parents have that responsibility. That's primary. And I believe that if we put that first, they will see that as important.

And that it does not cancel out. They are studying hard in their school to do well. How can I share the gospel with stubborn, unbelieving relatives? I'll tell you, by your life. They must see something in your life that they observe.

And they see something different. I have many, many unconverted relatives. And I worked in the midst of a Navy. In the Navy where they are all unconverted people. But they all knew that I was a Christian.

I was not ashamed of that. I'd go out of the ship with a Bible in my hand. And people would see, this guy is carrying a Bible. What does that mean? I'd have a Bible on my table. When I was working in a Naval office, I'd have a Bible on my table there.

Nobody can stop me from having a Bible. I put a calendar with a Bible verse. People knew what I stood for. I was not ashamed. So that if somebody had an interest, they would contact me. I was not preaching anything.

Nobody could stop me from having a calendar with a Bible verse or a Bible on my table. But I made my testimony clear that I'm not allowed to preach. So, we can proclaim the gospel even without trying to force the message on them.

If people see something different, they can come to you. And then when the door is open, you tell them. Or pass a little tract or a booklet to them. Say, here, read something. That's the way to pass the gospel on.

The Husband as a Sensitive Head of the Family

What does it mean practically to be the head of the family as a husband? Okay, that's very important. There are many types of heads. Head of government. Head of a company. Head of a family. There's a lot of difference.

Head of government, president. Or a head of a company, a CEO. Or a head of a family. The head of the family, a Christian family, is completely different. So, you cannot act in your home as a husband, as if you're the CEO of a company.