Providence Mission Conference 99 Session 2 — George Verwer

Over there, just pay at least one visit. I've just been rereading this book by this, thank you for visiting. Over there, just pay at least one visit. I've just been rereading this book by this great Canadian, Oswald Chaseman.

And some of the insight he had 50 years ago, still valid today. Some of this is out of date, but there's some nuggets there that are very, very significant. You don't want to miss anybody over there. So pick up that book, there's a few of them left.

Serving as senders should be required reading in every Bible college. I waited for 40 years to find such a book. As I discovered the hard way, it's the getting the senders is so much, so much more difficult than finding the people willing to go.

And I would urge you to read that book. I met a dynamic woman today here, a student named Sarah, same name as my granddaughter, so I can remember, who's got a vision for fundraising for world missions.

Seldom do you meet these kind of people. And so that was exciting. I think you can spot Sarah, she has more unique hairstyles. So do get to talk to her about her fundraising vision. Priority one, what God wants, that's another great missionary book.

Just got a few copies of it left. Don't miss it. If you know the price of books these days, to be able to go and get a book for a couple of dollar donation, that's a bargain. And I think those of you broke, you all went and had at least one free book.

My books are not that great, but I've had 25 ,000 letters and more just from one of my books. So people do read. But I call ordinary books from weak, needy characters like me. My book, I especially try to deal with this subject of discouragement, which has been such a big thing in my life, a tendency to battle discouragement.

So we got some copies, no turning back. If you ever do read that, please write me and I'll send you some books free just as a reward for plowing through my book. We also got some great books about the ship ministry.

We're really having a hard time finding men. We have a lot of women volunteering for our ships. Women generally have more discernment than men. And so we have a lot of women on our ships, but men are mainly praying, Lord, here I am, send my sister.

I've hardly ever known a man, and we've had thousands of men working on our ships, pretty hard physical work. That's a turnoff to a lot of people in this generation, but a ship is a lot of work. I've hardly ever met a man.

We've had some outstanding men on our ship that did not look back and consider it one of the most significant experiences in their lifetime, to visit 10 or 15 countries in two years, to live in a community of people from 30 nations.

Harvey is one of our co-leaders of the work in Canada now is on the ship for years. And you can talk to him about it, but pray that the Lord, maybe it's not you, that he will send some men to our, more men to our ship ministry.

We're especially looking for Marine and engineer officers. That's a major prayer target, but we also just need ordinary men who are willing to work, willing to put their hands on the plow. Let's read the scripture text for the theme of this great event together.

Quite a few of you came up to see me afterward. I know Canadians are generally shy. The last thing on planet earth they ever want to do is walk up and shake the hand of a loud mouth yank. I was just been shouting at him for an hour, but a few of you managed to come up.

And I gave you my email and I've already had email from Hamilton and email from Briarcrest. So I hope I get some email from here. I don't actually know where I am, but wherever it is, I'd like to get some email.

I know I'm at Providence Bible College, but I don't know what other, Manitoba. Praise God. It's a great province. It's in my favorites in my top 10 provinces of Canada group. It's a miracle I haven't been assassinated.

The Watchman’s Warning and the Missionary Call

The word of the Lord, Ezekiel chapter 33. How many of you have your Bibles? Hold your Bibles up. That's great. It's a privilege. Many, many believers in different parts of the world can't even get a Bible.

Can't even get a Bible. Many languages, the Bible doesn't exist. Wycliffe is working hard on that. Is Wycliffe represented here? Be unusual if they weren't. Over there, there's two good looking couple in this little smiley gown in the black.

I like black, notice I'm black. My underwear's not black though. Where the Lord came to me, son of man, speak to your countrymen and say to them, when I bring the sword against the land and the people of the land, choose one of their men and make him their watchman.

Inclusive language would say watch person. And he sees the sword coming against the land, blows the trumpet to warn the people. Then if anyone hears the trumpet, but does not take warning, and the sword comes and takes his life, his blood will be on his own head.

Since he heard the sound of the trumpet, but did not take warning, his blood will be on his own head. If he had taken warning, he would have saved himself. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people, and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin.

But I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood. Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel. So hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to the wicked, oh, wicked man, you will surely die, and you do not speak out to dissuade him from his ways, that wicked man will die for his sin.

And I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the wicked man to turn from his ways, and he does not do so, he will die for his sins, but you will have saved yourself. That's an Old Testament picture that can be interpreted in different ways.

You have to interpret it within the context, but I believe it also is a picture, a fore picture of God's people today, today. As we looked in Acts 1 .8, we are called to be his witness. And that to me is very important.

The Apostle Paul is described in Acts chapter 20, where it says for the space of three years, night and day, night and day with tears, he warned people. And I believe some of you are gonna have a ministry right on this campus, a ministry of the word of God, in love, in grace, to warn fellow students when you see them going on the wrong way.

You are your brother's keeper. And we need to warn people if they're going on the wrong way. It may be sex, it may be drugs, it may be just bad attitudes and negativeness, it may be a critical spirit.

You need God's timing when you do that. You shouldn't humiliate and embarrass people in front of others. But I thank God for those that were willing to warn me about things in my life that were not right.

Not many want that ministry. We all like to be more positive, including me. And yet we find this warning ministry in the word of God. It's not just warning and witnessing to the unsaved. It sometimes may mean standing up in front of your church and giving a word of exhortation about something you see as a danger.

This was considered a prophetic ministry. It was considered by George Whitefield a ministry of exhortation. Today we put a high esteem on Bible exposition and very little esteem to the ministry of exhortation.

Whitefield even called his workers under that great revival, he called them exhorters. And we need to have a ministry of exhortation. I don't have time, I do sometimes expound the scriptures, but when I have just a short time, I generally, and I'm just here for two days, engage more in exhortation, which has to be built on the ministry of Bible teaching and exposition.

And surely some of your teachers are expositors. I had a burden on my heart as I walked up here. All those on the faculty and the staff of Providence, could you just stand up? I'd like to pray for you.

Just stand up. Some of them are busy, but those of you on the staff, I always appreciate it when staff come to my meetings. I once told a college in one of my hard moments, the staff doesn't come, I'm not going.

But I backed down from that because I know that's sort of grace killing type approach. Lord, I just thank you for the staff that are here right now. We know many of them have been through other conferences and they're busy out serving, doing something else right now, but I lift up those who have taken the time to come.

And bless them and give them wisdom, because their work and their job will not get any easier. In the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. Thank you very much. How many of you, by the way, are already missionaries?

Could you stand up just real quick? Just a popcorn stand up. You're already a missionary. Great. Let's pray for them. Lord, I pray for these who are already missionaries. Bless them. Use them for your kingdom.

In Jesus name. Amen. You can sit down, but if any of you email me, I'd love to send you 10, 20 books. Do your address in proper form so my secretaries can read it. Then how many of you students, how many of you students have already made a commitment to go into cross-cultural missions, even cross-cultural missions in Canada?

That doesn't mean being a youth worker or a pastor to Canadians in Canada is any less important. But this is a missions conference. You can't do everything at once, even though I try. So those of you who are going cross-culturally, you're trying to get there, you've made some kind of commitment, I'd like you to stand right now.

I did this at Briarcrest. It was half as many as four years ago. I don't remember if I did this here before, but that's a good group. That's a good group. It'll take a lot to make it happen for these people.

Let's pray for them. Lord, we think of all those standing right here. Maybe they're even here at Prominence because this is their vision. Give them strength. Help them understand it's harder to become a career missionary today than it is a brain surgeon.

That they're gonna need a lot of anointing. They're gonna need a lot of discipline, a lot of wisdom. Help them to build up their support team. Help them to be proactive in their finance and prayer and make these weeks, months, years count here in Providence.

We pray in the name of Jesus. Amen. Thank you. You might ask why I did that. Well, a number of reasons. I'll just give one. Because at the end of this short message, I'm gonna give an invitation and I'm gonna ask people who are willing as a result of what the Spirit of God is doing in these days, as a result of what the Holy Spirit's doing in your life, maybe what I say, I'm gonna ask people to stand who are not necessarily mission types, not necessarily planning on career missions, but they're willing to at least give one or two years out of their own country for the sake of cultural development, education, ongoing training, to get delivered of any ugly Canadianisms, more of a problem in other countries than good old Canada, by the way.

Almost everywhere in the world, they like Canadians. What a privilege to be a Canadian. Every born again Canadian should pray about being a missionary because you're the most appreciated. Now, many out there have never met a Canadian, a real one, but they don't have, there's not all this negative stuff that there is about USA Americans.

And I know some of you maybe from the USA don't feel bad about that because the Holy Spirit, as in my life, can fill you, take that intimidation and just set you loose and you'll find that it is not a problem for people to love individual Americans.

It's the corporate block that they have difficulty with and the Vietnam scene and let's bomb Libya next week scene and the militia Ku Klux Klan scene that some thinking people have a little difficulty with.

But individual Americans may not be easy, but they're lovable. And if you don't succeed the first time, try again. Sometime if you turn them upside down and shake them, then after that, they're easier to love as you collect all the money that falls out of their pockets.

God is no respecter of persons. God is no respecter of persons. Why you should be a cross-cultural watchman, watchwoman. An Old Testament word for missionary. Someone willing to go and witness. Someone willing to obey God.

That's the bottom line, obeying God. And it's exciting. Let me give you five or six reasons. If you feed these back to me a year from now, I'll send you five or six free books for each reason. Just after lunch, people get a little drowsy.

I didn't eat lunch yet, so that helps. But people get a little drowsy after lunch. So if you write things down, students are supposed to be serious-minded people. They got their notebooks, they got their laptops.

They're getting this information down. Paul said in Timothy that I'm giving you these things that you can share them with others also. Do you know that verse? Second Timothy chapter two. Write it down, that's a good text.

And I don't share these things just for your sake. I share these things so that you also can share them with others. Even by email. Why don't you open your own website? It's only an idiot that doesn't open his own website.

Everybody needs a website. Do you know what's happening in the internet world right now? People are buying your name. I just found out my name, somebody already had it. GeorgeVerwer .com, they had it.

Friend of mine, proactive nerd, he got a hold of my name and because he loves me, he gave my name back to me free. And so you don't have to immediately open a website, but get your name. If you think any time ever in your life you're gonna amount to something more than a back-slidden mushroom, you want your own name, and then you can open your own website.

So in a week or two you can go in GeorgeVerwer .com and you'll get my all kinds of freebies and recipes. I don't even know what this guy is putting in there. He's a bit of an over-the-top kind of person.

It's exciting, isn't it? Email. And you can send an email out this afternoon and tell some people that are your friends what God's been doing here during these two days. Tell them, give them my email.

Tell them in a week or two, free books, free tapes. I'm giving away free coffee. I got a load of coffee from a born-again coffee dealer. And it's exciting really what we can do through the internet. Five or six reasons why you should go for at least one or two years.

You say, well, wait a minute. Why are you talking only one or two years? Why aren't you talking career? My burden is to get the right people into career missions. We don't want just a big army of Canadians saying I'm gonna be a career missionary without consultation, without discussion with their church, without understanding.

And if you wanna pray for me, pray that I may have more wisdom for the job that God has given me of leading with others this huge movement that's now 2 ,800 missionaries in 82 nations with the two ships.

There's some parts of our work that got so big we don't include it in that 2 ,800. The literature ministry in Great Britain grew so big it's a separate corporation. They now finally pay salaries so it's not really a mission but it's part of the kingdom.

So in the literature work, I started with a couple of boxes of books when I arrived in Britain in 62. Now I have 600 employees, the largest literature warehouse in the world, perhaps outside of the USA.

40 bookstores in Britain alone, another 40 in their network and customers throughout the entire world and distribute more books in one month than we used to distribute in a whole year. That's just one little part of this thing that has tended to grow up.

Something similar to that is taking place in India. Something similar to that exists in other countries. God answers prayer. Three of us went to Mexico and started this as students, students, before I went to Moody, from nothing.

And God has heard our prayers and has brought in the finance and brought in the people. 100 ,000 people have had a one or two year or at least a summer training experience, many of them 20 or 30 years.

Dale Roatan just came back, you know, short-term missionary, Dale Roatan. Just came back from 39 years on the field. He's now serving Christ in San Diego so he's still a missionary. We live in a rapidly changing world and that's why the training that you get here in Providence and any training has wheat together with straw and you've got to have the discernment to separate that, I believe is a valuable preparation for world missions.

I noticed the prior press, many leave after the freshman year for various reasons they explained to me. And I'd urge you to consider not leaving after your freshman year if that's a problem here, but trying to get at least two years or more and focus in on this challenge of cross-cultural communication and developing a knowledge of the Word of God and the skills that you can use.

But I share this two year, one year vision because I want to speak to those of you who are especially not planning to be missionaries which is a majority. I want you to understand that to be a pastor in Winnipeg or to be a youth worker in Toronto, a couple years, at least a year in a cross-cultural situation in which the focus is on training you rather than what you can do is going to help you make it happen.

Because in our tough society, and I had somebody come to me with the same thing yesterday, he was thrown into a youth work in a key church. He told me yesterday, they just fired him. We're in a society that hires and fires.

We're in a society, so-called commitment to excellency with a lot of diversity on how people would like things to happen that going into Christian ministry is not easy and a lot of people have fallen out of so-called Christian ministry, don't really like the term if it separates us from other aspects of building the kingdom.

So to have more experience in a training role, especially if you're being mentored and under other men and women of God can prepare you better for your life work. Hundreds of former OMers are pastors.

Some of them quite successful. Quite a few are leaders of mission agencies. Another one just stepped into that position, Craig Shugart, new leader of InterServe Canada. After 15 or 20 years, he once was my traveling partner.

And that's one of the goals and aims of OM is to prepare people for other missions. One of my favorite missions is OMF. And I was speaking to their international director years ago and we decided OMF meant OM for life.

And we've had the joy of sending many, many OM people into OMF. We do have our own long-term ministry, especially in the Muslim world. And it's a tension to know when to challenge people to move on, challenge them to get involved with one of the long-term aspects of our own ministry.

But the Holy Spirit can direct in that. The next reason you should consider going for at least one or two years is because of what the word of God teaches. And we don't have time to go into the biblical basis of missions, you've already had that.

The Biblical Basis for Going

We've looked at Acts 1 -8. We know great passages like the book of Isaiah. It's a chapter six. I just love to read a couple of verses from that because to me, that's just so, so powerful as we think of what God can do even right now in terms of our own futures.

Talks about meeting God, waiting on God. As Isaiah got this vision, he saw the Lord high and lifted up. He said, holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty. The whole earth is full of his glory. Then he repented and he broke before God.

He had this tremendous experience of purging and cleansing before the Lord. And then verse eight, I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom shall I send? Whom will go for us? And I said, here am I, send me.

Have you ever prayed that? Here am I, send me. Would you pray that this morning? The second reason I believe so many of you should go for at least a couple of years is because the need is so phenomenal.

The Global Need and the Unreached Peoples

Now I could talk nonstop, 24 hours. Someday I'm gonna do it. Just on the need around the world without notes. I've been through the book Operation World three times. I've been on the mission field. If I count my first trip to Mexico, 42 years, we've never even gone on our first furlough.

This is my life. This is my passion. I pray for almost every nation in the world. I have my own little special projects fund. We're involved in projects. Can you believe this? In almost every nation in the world, if we count what the ship does as well.

So this is my life. This is my passion. This is why I wanna run away from so many meetings. I take 400 meetings a year. The Lord keeps grabbing me by the scruff of the neck. You might think I'm some hyper extrovert that just loves being with people.

But when you've been in it as long as I have, some of you already have this. My recluse instinct is almost out of control. Where will you find me this time next week? You'll find me in the bottom of Grand Canyon where nobody can phone me or find me, except my grandkids pray for me.

The need is 10 times greater than we can portray in these couple of days together. All of the seminars, all of the missionaries together, it's impossible for us to portray the need, but we'll try. Especially the need of the more unreached people.

Now you think Canada. How many feel that Canada's mission field is something pretty needy? Raise your hand. Everybody almost. Let me tell you something, and no one has ever disagreed with me. Canada's in the top 10 nations in the world as far as evangelism, church, ministry, and especially potential to be effective in world missions.

Canada is in the top 10. Don't quote to me some third world country where they're talking about missions. They haven't even sent their first 200 career missionaries yet. God bless them. We're working there as well.

The Canadian church is a proven church. It's got a church with a heritage so deep you can't even find it. It's got some of the greatest men and women of God like Oswald J. Smith that have ever walked the missionary trail.

It's got martyrs going back for a couple of hundred years. The Canadian church, of course, is not growing a lot, but it takes a lot of growth just to keep up with all the great Canadian saints are going on to heaven like Terry Winter not that many months ago.

Boy, that was a surprise. You never do know when you're going to value it. So I tell you, make those days count. So I believe Canada is to continue to play a leading role in the task of world missions.

It must not be the same. It's not in the same countries. Some countries, the national church can do most of the work. There may be specialist tasks for Canadians in those countries, but Canada now must turn her eyes more toward the more unreached, forgotten sectors of the world.

Most of those places, not exclusively, but many of them are in that famous 10 -40 window. 10 degrees north of the equator to 40 degrees north, starting where my hand is by Mauritania and Morocco, moving it close, Algeria, Libya, Southern Mediterranean, right through Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, right through places like Tibet and North India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, through a good chunk of China.

There's a few places north and south like Indonesia and Mongolia, which, of course, spiritually belong in the 10 -40 window. Less than 10 of all the missionaries in the world work there. We're a high percentage of all the world's population.

Isn't that amazing? Now, if we throw India in and China in, they're so big it distorts that statistic I just gave you because they have so many nationals. And the church in China is mainly growing by indigenous phenomenal movement.

But keep in mind, there are hundreds of millions in China who never heard the gospel or read the gospel because the church in the method that it's using has great limitations as far as reaching 1 .3 billion people in their own country, including many cultural groups that are considered outside of their sort of affiliation.

It has also been proven that a high percentage of the career missionaries who are laboring in the 10 -40 window got their vision by going on a short-term mission exposure experience where some of the false ideas could be broke down in their thinking, where they discovered they could really love these places.

Missions is not a purgatory trip. You'll have a hard time finding. You can talk to my wife. You can talk to people who stuck with me in this work, many of them 30, 40 years. You can ask them about me.

You will not find people much happier or fulfilled than my wife and I. So the idea is that I'm going to stay in my own country because I want to be happy. I want to stay in my own country because I'm not a missionary type and I'm not a missionary type.

That's just a load of nonsense. You don't even know yourself yet. That's why I cry out against these premature romances and marriages. You don't even know yourself yet, much less know this girl you're dating and you're about to hop in bed with in a couple of months or a couple of years.

We need to get to know ourselves. We need to get to know the living God. We need to understand people and develop discernment about people in general, especially this whole area of psychology and the mind, why people just so quickly change as they get a little bit older.

I have a friend of mine, once this woman that he married got a little older and she went off to university and studied feminism. She just told him to go get lost. She left into her, and not all feminism is bad, so don't misunderstand that, but this idea that you really can't be fulfilled if you're married to some guy who's like this or like that, you know, how all these bad guys are, especially Christians who believe in some degree of submission.

They are considered arch enemies by the feminist movement, the more extreme end of it. Though amazing, a leading feminist just wrote a book in favor of men. Whoa, is she getting criticized by the hardline feminists.

Just read a review of it. Get to know yourself. What makes you tick? You have a problem with anger. Why do you have a problem with anger? You think that's a vacuum? You got a problem with anger because you got another problem.

And I tell you, women, if you marry a guy with anger problem, you invite him to smack you in the face. He will smack you in the face. Women have been walked on and beaten on for hundreds of years, including in the church, including on the mission field, and guys like me involved in depth and marriage counseling, we got to pick up the pieces and the bruises.

They don't produce films like The Burning Bed, and I did see that film just for kicks. Those things happen. I urge you to wake up and come out of your little naive movie fantasy world because it's worth it for you in the long run.

It's not for me. I'm out of here tomorrow. I'm here for you. I'm already 43 years in the race. It's for you that we are here. It's for you who are having this conference that you may be a whole person, that you may have victory over anger or lust or that fear that has destroyed your life or that inferiority that has dragged you down since you were five and somebody told you you were an idiot.

My wife suffered from tremendous problems because of her child. Her first father divorced after a couple of years, went to the war and was killed in the war. He never, she never knew her own father. She was put in an orphanage as a little girl and she had about as much love as a cockroach.

And then her stepfather didn't really like her and I don't want to talk about that. He was anti-Christian and he eventually, when she was an older teenager, threw her out of the home. It's like Joseph.

Joseph got sent to Egypt. That was terrible, but it was for God's good. You need to understand that about your background. Whatever's gone wrong, whatever hurt you've gone, whatever exile you've been through, whatever rejection you experienced, God ultimately can use it for good.

That's not justifying anything that's happened, but God ultimately can use that for good. It's because she got thrown out of the home that I met her. Crap. I've been on a three-year fast, no girls for three years.

I thought I was going to go out of my mind. Only Jesus can meet my need during those three years. I already mentioned, I had about 32 different girlfriends at the time I was 17, 18. After I became a Christian, I still couldn't figure out how this all worked.

I let a girl go to Christ and then kissed her for two hours. That was not a real follow-up program. And God, you know, He just, God just broke me. And I said, and God, I don't believe He leads everybody this way, but God just told me, you're going to lay off the girl thing.

No kissing, no necking. For at least a couple of years, I'm going to send you to Mexico. I'm going to bend you and break you and fill you. And then I'll add this to you. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

And all these things will be added unto you. And that's what I did. And in God's providence, I went to rent a moody science film at Moody Bible Institute. I stepped out of the elevator and I turned right and I saw this girl sitting at the desk that blew every fuse in my head.

It really scared me. I said, Lord, I'm not ready for this. And I didn't know how to handle it. So I thought I would scare her. I took her on a date. It wasn't even a date. And you know, my heart was pounding.

I thought, you know, I got to throw out a fleece. I got to scare her. And I said, you know, probably nothing. She was a little quiet Iowa girl. This aggressive, loud New Jersey, son of a Dutch, who knows what.

And I said to her, you know, probably nothing's ever going to happen between you and me, but I'm going to be a missionary. If you marry me, you'll probably end up being eaten by cannibals in New Guinea.

That was the first date. To this day, I can't figure out why she ever refused to see me again. The second thing I did, this was back in the hyper chauvinistic era. I gave her a bag of my dirty laundry.

And I said, would you wash this as unto the Lord to help the work? Every year I tell that story, it gets worse. I mean, the reaction, the reaction from the new generation. So young man, if you want to make an impact, I'm not sure that's the way.

Preparing for Missions Through Experience and Relationships

We then got into the book of Acts. I then almost required her to go to Mexico. See, you know what she was made of. Challenged her about forsaking all. She'd be a millionaire today if she'd invested that in Walmart.

Instead, she invested it with me. She's been broke ever since. And we were actually so attracted to each other. And we went to Mexico. And when we were there together in Mexico City, it was sort of a disaster.

I'm going to make this short. But I didn't have the kind of love she needed. Because of rejection, because of insecurity, she needed a lot of love. I was trying to go to the university. I was distributing two million tracts, leading a team.

I was mega, mega busy. I had hardly any time. And she was my fiance by then. She was crying every night. Because of her need for love and attention. And my inability to give that. And when she came back, and that's a whole story.

I left her down there. And one of my best friends phoned me up and said he wanted her for his girlfriend. I had already told him, I'll give you whatever I have. But I felt that was over the line. I started fasting and gave her a bus ticket to come back.

She was in Mexico City. I was in Chicago finishing at Moody. She was not a student. She was an employee there. That's how I met her. And it looked like we'd have to break our engagement. Because we were just, you know, we just didn't meet each other's needs.

I thought I'm hopeless at this thing of loving. You know, women need sensitivity. They need a tender touch. They need patience. All the different things that I didn't seem to have much of. Though, you know, I was trying to develop more of that.

And I mentioned maybe we should break our engagement. Which really shook her. And this is absolute truth. She went back to her room within that period of time. And she just had an experience with God.

You know, people get different names to experiences with God. And some of them are real, you know, emotional things. Hers was actually quite quiet. She, by that time, had three psychosomatic illnesses as a result of her background.

And not me, but the background, I wasn't helping any. And some speakers said, come to Chicago at Moody. We get tremendous speakers used to come there. And in the Keswick Convention, where they emphasize a victorious life and the reality of the Holy Spirit.

And she had heard that message about the all-sufficiency of Jesus. And there was a book way back then. This is a long time ago. There was a book. There are many books on this now showing how the spiritual is related to the physical.

We read that book. It's called Health Springs Forth by Dr. Adol. It's out of print. She went back to her room that night. And she experienced the all-sufficiency of Jesus. She woke up the next morning completely healed.