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Woman's body woman's choice. I think that like a law For example, there was a

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For two seconds there was a woman there. Okay that literally Became very ill because she was pregnant with a baby and she asked for an abortion in this country and she was refused it

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And it was that immigrant and the baby died. Okay, and I think that's very a very important issue

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I think don't doctors should not have the control of a human being's body They're only there to basically give they have a duty of care towards the patient like which

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I mean Which patient because which patient it doesn't matter which which patient in the case of like a mother a job

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They feel like a mother and a baby woman What I'm trying to say is right I don't think any other human being should have the right to tell you how you should treat your own body

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Okay I agree. I agree with God's can tell you that but Well, yeah to the argument because I agree with you

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Absolutely, yeah, but somebody has the right to their their own body. No one can tell me what to do I should be able to die.

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I So for for example, there's guys with like Paralysis and shit like that and they cannot function.

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They have no Solely dependent on care Family and a support unit right and without that the

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If you're a normal human being you could do normal daily functions on an everyday matter you get me yeah, so If you have basically incapacitated incapacitated within your own body

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But your soul and your mind are correct I think you should be able to make a conscious decision to sign over your life

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If you choose because you believe in bodily autonomy exactly. So what about what do you say to the person that says

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I? Believe in bodily autonomy too, and that's why I'm against abortion because there's another body

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That's no longer autonomous. It's being killed. Okay, right? I Understand your argument right but what

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I'm trying to say is right it depends in the context it depends in the situation Yeah, for example, right if a woman like as you see over in India and everything else

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Okay, I'm being severely damaged and traumatized through this event, okay

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No, what happens here in a supposed civilized Western society, but it fucking does happen here.

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Excuse my language right, so if a woman In her own body

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Some Predator decides to be an opportune in the opportunist and still take that from her when she says no

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Yeah, and ends up pregnant. I think he does He does deserve to die. No, not to die.

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No human being deserves to die no matter what our Circumstances, but he deserves the same punishment say it again

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No human being deserves What about the baby in the womb

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Yeah, but that's a difficult one that is a difficult one But at the end of the day do you expect the mother there to sit there?

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But you said the no human being deserves a diner. I know I know it is see and then the 8th

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You know what I hate about it no, here's here's no debate. This is a good discussion Conflicting all the time.

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So this issue I think Ireland and Irish people have been like a beacon of light to the world whether it's from here or Or when you came to United States you got you guys brought the biblical world

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The image of God and value and dignity and now it looks like Ireland is letting go of that.

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No, we're failing No, I mean in the sense of the unborn child you guys were a light to the world

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And now everybody's saying we're no longer human dignity Now we can say that this human being is worthy of death

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People we're depraved towards execution

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We're even without appeal. I know most of them, you know, it's crazy vast majority do sort of you know

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Irish people man, you guys when Irish people came to the United States and started establishing a nation

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Which is really what that's we're descendants of like Europe Ireland You guys brought over standards of justice and biblical law and value and dignity and now we've abandoned that in the u .s

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Now we're like we have a perverse justice system. I think your foreign policy is It's horrid, it's wicked it's

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The way I think everybody should be I think every every country should be a neutral country But unfortunately the world is not like that.

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It's not right like there's always gonna be imperialism There's always gonna be that strong military might there's always gonna be that superpower, right?

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You understand me? Yeah, so we're gonna have to bow to the elite in the world But what the normal common people need to realize is these people aren't in power

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We don't need these people. We genuinely fucking don't we don't you know what I mean? I believe in self -government if we

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Stick as a community sort of governance if we hold these people into account

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Further action. Yes. Why are we paying politicians? Ridiculous amounts of money

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To rule our country and supposedly speak on our behalf when they never fucking do communities

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And as well as that you're getting frontline services like army police services

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Ambulance services nurses doctors all down the chain right getting less paid than the likes of these

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Vermin tugs -and -ties, I call them because that's exactly Your question

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They are the real gangster Do you think it's crazy that Ireland you guys are so against child abuse, but you want abortion at the same time

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We don't want abortion. So take that out of the script. So you don't what no,

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I don't okay. We want choice Well, that's what we want we want Choice for a human being to be able to make conscious decision on their own behalf

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We don't need no governance or any sort of authority figure to be able to tell us what to do

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In our own country with our own body with our own soul. They believe in bodily autonomy.

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Except for the baby not Look, we live in a day and age there that look at look at nature

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The strong survived the weak perish. It's an awful thing. But when you see a happen, it's the course of nature

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Unfortunately, that's how nature of all but isn't that what's that? I do and I from the animals it is

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But I think as a human race a human species. We also have to evolve in that regard

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Okay, yeah help me you mean in terms of being able to kill our own show No No in regards to being able to make a conscious decision on their own body and being able to live with the fact that we

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That's what I mean human means never never learn from the Past mistakes like look of all the war wars that are happening.

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Okay all the massacres did everything man You don't even like the atrocities all over the world

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We kill and we're the ones destroying our own fucking planet slowly, but surely, you know,

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I can't say something real fast Yeah, I like you a lot you You have this deeply

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Deeply set desire of justice and human value and dignity and that's part of what your culture gave to you, right?

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But I don't know culture before family, right? Right and that's what I mean so But here's here's where I think you mentioned the elites the tugs and ties that are like trying to rule stuff

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Okay, I don't mean this as an offensive thing. Just think about it It sounds like you've been influenced by those tugs and ties and their argument for abortion

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Because there's an inconsistency you To a certain level

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I don't really have an argument when it comes to abortion Because you know, you know, do you understand me?

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It's not my decision. It's like I'm fighting for the repeal Yeah, no, I'm not fighting for nothing. I'm fighting for choice.

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I'm fighting for speech. I'm fighting for freedom of expression I'm with you freedom of You know,

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I mean freedom of speech Because that's what all the democracies now at the moment they're trying to do they're trying to quell it

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They're trying to smother it to try and stamp that fucker out, right? You get me, right, right, you know I'm gonna resist that that's what

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I'm only fighting for. I'm not fighting for anything I think you should disconnect that because that's noble.

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I think you should disconnect that from the other part I'm trying to fight for people that don't have a voice. That's good.

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That's what I'm that's good That's good. I think like the other one babies rights to housing should be

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Number one right now, especially in this quote you would be a giant in Ireland my friend

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You'd be a giant in Ireland to fight for justice You're articulate you're good at what you're doing.

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You care about justice and human value and dignity. I just care about life I know see in America All life matters even if they exist or it doesn't it's still the universe

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You will be one of the greatest warriors for justice True justice in Ireland if you would if you would stay consistent with everything you're saying

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I'm trying though, but like look at the environment we're in There's so many different opinions.

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There's a like think about it You're you're fundamental to all the centuries.

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Yeah, Ireland has been Politically and institutionally divided from the start, right, right, you know,

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I mean To a sense I don't like finger -pointing or whatever, but like to a certain level

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It's the sort of British foreign policy. Yeah, if you don't divide you conquer. Yeah So if you don't get into the mentality of the population, you're not gonna have that sense of control