Powerful: Legislator Ending Abortion in KY

A Christian Legislator’s Calling in Kentucky

We're very excited to present this special interview that we have with Kentucky representative Dan Johnson. Dan Johnson is attempting to end to criminalize and abolish abortion in the state of Kentucky.

Here's the interview. All right, guys, we're here in Louisville, Kentucky in a hotel lobby talking with Kentucky House of Representatives Dan Johnson and we just finished a live stream outside of the last standing abortion mill in Kentucky.

Yes, yes and.

For the audience right now watching this tell everybody about who you are what you do in the state of Kentucky.

Well, I'm Dan Johnson, and I love God. That's what I do. I love God and I'm a family guy. I have a wife. We have four children together grandkids and I'm a legislator and that's the order that goes in by the way and I'm working here in Kentucky as a state legislator the 49th district and We're seeing a lot of great changes.

Of course this last election for our nation our presidential election. So many things that happened throughout state legislators all over the country. There was a landslide and I'm gonna call it for righteousness and for conservatism and and for good people and I guess you know, I sometimes I'm a little a little afraid to to get boxed into a title or to a name.

But when we hear the word conservatism, you know. A lot of folks have a lot of different ideas and opinions and some people think well, that's that's real straight-laced and boring. You know or whatever and so I'm gonna try to redefine that a little different.

It's uh, it's righteousness. It's people that want to do what's good for me. But but not just for me because righteousness that plays out where it's good for me is probably not good. So real righteousness is living for the sake of others and it's a thing where what's good for you?

And what's good for everyone and when it comes down to what is good for us is what is God for us and. So when Jesus spoke to the disciples and and one of the disciples said good, you know good master.

He says no one good, but God. Righteousness and righteous values and what I call conservatism is is when we look out for what's right for other people. But it's amazing when you start standing up for what is good or what is God?

You always have opposition. I had someone the other day asked me this. It's kind of amazing. They said You how do you stir so much stuff up? I said, well I keep doing what's right? Mm-hmm, and when you do what's right, you will always have an adversary and you will always have adversaries.

You know, it's it's it's amazing, you know one time here in here in the city just right down the street here I was living in one of the high-rise apartments and.

I.

We had a fire there was there was a there was a fire as a kitchen fire and We all were rushed out of this Impath, oh my gosh, by the way, my mom and dad were here from Louisiana 700 miles away. We live in a small town and this is like here.

They're staying this high-rise. They're a little bit of uncomfortable with it. And then we have this fire. So we're all rushed out of this this building, you know. And I get out of the building and I realized there's a lot of people that didn't come out because they didn't hear the fire alarms.

So I turned to go back in and oh my gosh the security. They're waiting on the fire trucks to get there the security's stopping trying to stop me. The police are trying to stop me the the doorkeepers trying to stop me and I run right by him and I go up the stairs and I alarmed everybody that I can that you know when I finally get to the floor where the fire was the door was hot and you know, I knew what could happen but I pushed on in and Ended up was able to get people out there that would have otherwise had issues or died from smoke, you know.

And and I look at that like everything, you know. When you try to do good you have people that will try to stop you from doing what will save others lives. And and it's just there it just goes with the turf when you're trying to do the right thing.

But that don't mean you don't get people out of the burning building. That's right. You've got to do what's right. That's right.

That's a powerful thing.

Constitutional Law, States’ Rights, and the Marijuana Debate

And and one of the things that I love so much about what I've heard you say in just a little bit of time we've had together today and even overheard you saying to others is your commitment to The laws of this country, yeah, you talk about the Constitution.

Yes, and you talk about legislation that you're putting forward that allows the states to uphold the law. Yeah of the land and to ultimately honor even their states rights. Yeah and their own state sovereignty within the Union.

Yeah that we have before us and so you talk. Well, let's just do two issues. We'll start with the one and that's marijuana.

You would you wouldn't do that on this program? Would you you wouldn't ask me that question? Would you of course?

We're for Liberty for Liberty were for constitutional.

Standards where they are consistent with the law of God, you know, I appreciate the question. I was I was it was humor, but. Yeah, it is a it is a subject that I have people come to me, you know immediately when you start standing up for for certain things.

Folks, you know wonder what your your endgame is, you know, is it something that you? Haven't have an interest in because it's something you're doing or partaking of or whatever and not the case at all.

You know, I always tell people I'm not a smoker I'm not a stoner not that I don't have friends that are and that do but it's it's not about that it's about what is right and and Kentucky was kind of the it is kind of the the hub if you will of hemp and and Marijuana, it's something that grows wild.

It's a natural plant and and During the World War two. It was like the one of the biggest Crops we had because of hemp the rope and the the fabric and all the different things of course what most people don't realize is with hemp you could build almost this entire building and and so.

For instance like paper or things like that what we use our mills for. About an acre of him can take the place of about five acres of hardwood. And the thing is you can grow that back two or three times a year.

There's just so many things there your clothing that for instance a lot of medical beds and things the sheets. Where you get bed sores, you don't get bed sores with him. There's just so much there but on a medical side the the hemp oils and things of that nature can provide.

Oils that can help with nerve issues that can help with brain damage issues. It can it can help with all kind of aches and joints and bones and things of that nature. It's just a whole list digestive system medical marijuana, and that's kind of taking it a step further.

Is is something that with little babies or people that have seizures a little baby that was brought to my office in Frankfurt at the Capitol has 200 seizures a day without him and they intentionally didn't give this child him and oils that day and and When this child went into this seizure to where it was, you know.

He's walking around and playing with toys and doing this and doing that and and he goes into a seizure and he's literally bouncing off.

The floor.

I mean, it's it's horrible and I'm like, oh my god, you know, I would don't do this for me. Please do some and I'm talking a touch of him pool one touch. I mean like less than a an eyedropper I'm just a little drop and Instantly the seizures stopped totally stopped Alzheimer's there's some studies on that cancer.

We've found it to have healing ingredients a lot of things that we're dealing with right now that we're using pharmaceuticals. So who do you think is fighting this right the pharmaceutical companies and and in my position on about everything?

It seems like I've come into a game where we're so far down in the game. Where there's been so much money and so much payoffs and so much bribery and I'm walking in and I'm walking Looking at things that it's just a guy.

That's a biker, dude. I mean, you know usually dressed in leathers or or somebody who has worked in admissions and helping the homeless and doing all these things and I'm the outside guy and I walk in and we're in the middle of This game and we're losing so bad and I look at everything and I go.

Why you know, why is this happening? And how did we get started in things like this and then you realize that the bribes and the The big industries and everyone that the things that would help you the things that would help me the things that would help others Are being held from us?

Because someone's been paid off and and so they're trying to stop this very very diligently and and now all of a sudden I push this last session and with the with him and Trying to get the hemp industry opened up and now there's been now there's been all these polls that have been run.

They thought I was crazy and now about 80-something percent of our state 82 percent. Is one of the figures that are pro for medical marijuana and hemp? I believe that if we could put the power of Politics back in the hands of the people right to where we have a say I think there's a lot of things that would open up and we're dealing with a lot of those issues today.

But I'm so far the medical marijuana. It's fixing to be something that there's gonna be so many people. Maybe all this can come together, but we have we have hundreds if not thousands of people that are out right now taking polls literally writing down names phone numbers addresses talking to people and They really feel like this is a move to make this open up not only in Kentucky, but all over America.

So I'm excited about that and some way another I don't know. It's almost like I'm a battering ram I get thrown in the front, you know, they do. They want me to do this, but anyway, that's kind of it.

Well.

I think what the reason why I want to ask about that is because it goes to a Principle a constitutional principle that you are you are the law-keeping one. You are the one that's that's asking for a Consistent holding to our constitutional standards in terms of states rights.

Absolutely and and federal law Essentially bans marijuana. Yes, and what we've seen across, Colorado, Washington, Arizona. Even my own state is states essentially telling the federal government go pound sand.

It's amazing, but almost 28 states 28 states have have. Somewhere another passed legislation now for America, but it's the people again. You're right. You're so right. I think this generation It's you know, there's a lot of things that a lot of folks things wrong with this new generation.

But there are some things that are so right with this generation in a sense. I'm a part of this generation as a newcomer into the political world and the questions This generation is asking which I love is why?

And I you know, I asked that question all the time to people that don't want to hear that question, right? They want me to accept how it is. They want me to accept what has already happened. They want me to accept what's already been legislated and and then they want me to just go, you know Hook on to their train and keep going right and and this generation is saying why right?

Why that's powerful it is and so we're at that place now where we're having to go back to what our forefathers did who I believe were some of the most godly statesmen if there's ever been an ordained group of people that I would compare.

With the disciples of Christ would be the founders of our country they were inspired by God and the things that were laid out in writing in our Constitution in our in our Bill of Rights and in so much of the groundwork of what are the pillars of government?

We're so right on Biblically, it was it was Bible based. Well, it's a Christian culture.

Even if you weren't explicitly Christian, you couldn't get away from the Christian culture that you inherited. Absolutely. So yeah, Bill of Rights all that stuff is directly from the Law of Moses. Absolutely.

And so so that's the thing we we have the foundation right and the foundation is right, right? So we've had bribed paid-off self-interest groups. You know congressmen senators in our in our national government.

Presidents that have have have strayed from what is the foundation principles? That's when we have some of the federal laws that have been passed. That are truly unconstitutional, right? We have got to get back to the basics of what in this generation is the generation, right?

This is the generation that's saying why and you know what? We're about to uncover a lot of things that have been covered up for a long time. That the reasons for it had to do with people's own self-interest pay off bribery.

Things that were cruel things that were inhumane. I used a word the other day on interview and I said unhumane and someone said that's not a word. Well, it is a word and the unhumane word is a great word because it means something that's not human.

Why would somebody? Keep something good from you. That could save your life, right? Why would somebody keep something from you? That would better your life? Why would somebody watch you suffer with with human cruelty and somewhere another either by bribe or some sort of a payoff or Possibly even something even far more weird than that.

And is that they would almost get off on it or enjoy watching you suffer and a lot of people do for a lot of reasons and and that's a sad thing but a lot of the a lot of. The poverty that we have in this country has been promoted by people that obviously love to see America poor and Right.

So there's a lot of things in that and of course, we're getting to an issue. That has to do with everything about what we're talking about right now.

Abortion, Human Dignity, and the Law of God

Yeah, the value of human life. Human value and dignity. In a sense my own sovereignty, yes over in my own self-governance. Right exactly. And and every human no matter how small no matter what color has that ability to self-govern and has that Bodily autonomy.

Oh my what's interesting about that is that people oftentimes in the pro-choice movement today will use the bodily autonomy argument. It's my body. Yeah neglecting the or I would say ignoring the Fallacious nature of the argument it's Bodily autonomy forever human including the one inside.

Oh, absolutely. And so let's let's just bring that to another level. Let's do it.

Okay, what if what if you're saying my choice? My choice is over this child's choice. Was that because why you're bigger? Is it because you're more mature? What if you have twins are you outvoted right if you have triplets or quadruplets or white?

Are you outvoted? Are we gonna go with democracy? Oh, we can't do that because truly if we're gonna do democracy that one seed That one seed has as much right that's right as as a parent does so. You know this were to me and and so there's big money in abortion always has been right?

There's big big money in in People with Alzheimer's there's there's big money with people that are in nursing homes that Possibly wouldn't have to be there if we gave them the right medical treatment, right, but you know what there's big money in that.

It's almost like you know, I'm not I'm just throwing this out because we're not gonna go. But it's almost like is do we know how to limit the amount of inmates in prisons? Well, sure we do. There's all kind of things but you know, what prison is big industry.

Bondage is big industry. Sin and the results of sin is a big industry. So This thing right now with taking away human life. It's got to be it's got to be put Put in the in the in the truth of what it really is in the sense of how it's talked about how it's stated.

How it's legislated. How it's looked on as a society. It's murder. It's just simply murder. And of course you get down to all these these equations if you will or are the what-ifs and You know what the if we simplify things and we just simply say there's life and There's murder.

There's life and there's death. That's those are easy. When is it life? Well, it's life at conception and all of these other Arguments that has happened on both sides. I think could be limited to Something that would be so much more simplistic that if we just came at this from what God said that at conception we have a life.

That's the beginning we go by logical science. Absolutely. Absolutely. When do we say when do we say that the world started? When do we say the earth was formed? When do we say well, you know, if you're if you're a Christian you say.

And God said, you know in the beginning and God just spoke it and it happened if you're a Big Bang theorist. And you're trying to get to that. Well, then you say it happened then but you do say that it happened in the Big Bang.

I'm gonna go back to the Big Bang. Guess what life started in the Big Bang and that's when it started and life is there. I did say that again here I'm on the air at my church when I preach everybody's like, oh my god He's gonna preach, you know.

Cuz I say things like that. But the Big Bang theory if you want to go with that then guess what life started then that's when the world was formed. If you want to go with the fact that God said it and it happened and I believe that with all my heart.

But the fact there was a word that was sown and the world began when the seed is sown life begins. Which one of us have the right to take somebody else's life we don't right and You know, I think if we can get down to things that simple and we can see that legislated.

How do you deal with a murder? Well, I know our court systems here In the Commonwealth and in every state in the United States deals with murder. Courtrooms every day there's. It just happens and so people are there they're on trial.

All of these, you know, we're not in a judicial system where you just simply say you did this. So that happens it happens with a jury it happens with a judge. Today, I don't have to be today. You don't have to be the judge and jury on a murder.

But what we do know is there's consequences to murder. That's right. And that's why everyone don't murder. Yeah, you know I hear today people they argue over even tools I call them tools or utensils that kill people or murder whether it's a knife or a bat or a gun or whatever.

It might would be our car or truck or whatever. However, you kill somebody. This is not what really this argument is about. We're not you know, I hear people, you know, the the gun killed them or the knife, you know.

They went out all these things and we're not getting into all that. But what I'm saying is what the real object of this thing whether it's about Guns should be outlawed which by the way, I don't believe that at all.

I'm totally a Second Amendment guy. You know, however, you think about that? We are so interested on how not only that the person died. But how they died can I tell you something? Murder clinics abortion clinics are the tool that is used to kill lives.

It's got to be stopped. Every day three thousand every single day and you know what and I'll 9 -11 every day. There's a 9 -11 I yeah every single day and of course being there when all that happened I watched that happen and I was a the the chaplain I did last rites and blessings for everyone out of the towers.

And I'm in the middle of that every day. I live that atrocity. Let me and this I guess to everybody, you know. Wow, why'd you go there? Here we go. Okay. Something that I live every day of my life. The first the first body I went a long time before I even talked about this but the first body that was handed to me was a young lady who was drug out of the ash and the dust under tower what would have been tower two and She had jumped and So she was just broken just just mush, you know however, one side of her was covered and caked with ash and The other side was not and in this young lady who was handed to me, which was a makeshift morgue Brooke at Brooks at the corner there.

There's Brooks Brothers, which is a big department store. You can buy $500 shirts there.

And.

But it's right there on Church and Liberty of all places the corner of Church and Liberty and that's where we set the morgue up.

And.

The first lady that was handed me in this makeshift morgue. We just had 50 ,000 body bags of delivery and.

And.

This this lady was handed to me by a police officer and I held a cradle in my arms and They rolled this body over in my arms. That's trying to fall apart. And as they're holding her all I see is an ash pile over this body when she rolled into my arms.

I Could see her her face looked like part of her face looked like she had just got out of the vent. The mirror and the Bathroom the vanity there and and makeup was all together. You could tell in Beautiful dress that was now all you know, just dirty and tainted but on one side.

It was fairly clean and The thought was my god. You know, I have daughters.

This age.

And.

Those.

Officers and firemen that were there one lady police officer a couple firemen and They said what do we do? And I answered the question knowing at that time. No one knew what to do. This had just happened and I said that will be all they had given us gurneys and and things we got all these body bags and I Lifted and put her over on a table and the thing that I live with every day and this is the realness of what I said, this is going to Is through the Through the aftermath and in the months following they would use tarps and They would gather up pieces of bodies and parts and what was literally like mush.

A Lot of most of that had been shoveled up so in these tarps. Maybe 10 15 could be 20 people pieces and parts of mush. And there I believe there's things that I do believe there are some things that are so so horrid That humans should never see it.

Yeah, and what was sometimes just Floating around in the bottom of a tarp with big firemen carrying these tarps out of what was now known as ground zero to me depicted. And this is what I thought about then and there.

This is abortion and you would see hands and fingers sometimes breasts parts of bodies faces in this muck if you will of human carnage. Mothers and Fathers Should never have to see that. I have children like that young girl.

But you know what maybe there's a mother right now listening maybe there's a father that knows there's a child coming. We think about The terrorist attack and we think about how horrible Bin Laden and all the terrorists that brought this about ever what your view is on it ever how you view that.

But would you do that to your child?

Life.

Life is the greatest gift. Life is the greatest gift I've ever been given. It's the greatest gift you've ever been given. But it didn't just start at your conception. It started at Jesus Christ, and he loved you first.

Before the foundation of the world he loved you and he still loves you. He loved you when you were that little seed. Ever how that happened. Someone said it was an accidental pregnancy. There's no such thing.

That's right. No such thing some people say well it was I was the victim of a rape and that child was never from God. There's no such thing. I think about So many people but James Robinson wrote a book years ago.

And it was about the fact that he was a throwaway kid and would have been aborted. And he became a man that helped and has helped and fed Thousands and thousands and thousands of people in nations that have no food had no clothes.

He set clothing and he's ministered the Word of God and in my life. Never told this ever told this as it was being recorded. But in my life, I've been married now for 31 years but there was a child that was conceived out of wedlock and a father of.

A.

Grandfather of what would be my child to be born? Met me at a little restaurant for coffee and said my daughter is too young too. Talented. He's got too much going for her to have a pregnancy. We need to have an abortion.

My whole life was before me. All kind of things I was involved with. I was playing in a band. Playing music and traveling all over the world. All kind of things I knew that was I was involved. I had no clue all the things that were before me and I knew for me to say do not abort this child.

Would do things in my life, which I had no clue, you know. Mm-hmm. And you know what? It's the best thing in the world. I said absolutely not. I'll pay every penny. I didn't have a way to pay our penny.

You know, I didn't wouldn't they wouldn't wealthy. I'll take care of everything. I'll take care of child support. I'll pay for college. I'll do all those things by the way that I did but you know what?

There's no situation that you can be involved in today that gives you the right. To take somebody's life and why would you want to kill your own seed? We're living in the middle right now. Of a Holocaust that we called on ourself.

And the work that you are involved in right now this push forward to and criminalize abolish abortion of the state is For these human beings these innocent human beings that we ought to be protecting.

I mean you you had Front row seats to one of the greatest tragedies in the history of our nation. It's a tragedy. It's an awful thing. That we say there's 3 ,000 lives lost and it's the kind of thing that we fight wars.

Oh, yeah about.

Oh, yeah, and yeah, that's every every single day. And if there's anything that I can say, you know, I think you know, I was groomed for that day I had worked here in the city as a Came to it to Louisville and pastor to church and and I saw things that weren't good it was in my My belief it was it was it was not upright.

And so I knew I was called to this city and so I went to the street and started preaching. It wasn't long till I got involved in a group that was helping to Preserve life and to save lives and it took me in to work with the Catholic Church and 17 and a half years I worked as a lay minister in a intermittent, you know with church to church from Organizations and ministries that were Baptist some of them Methodist Episcopalian Presbyterian and Catholic and it was a Ecumenical work and I learned the Catholic prayers even though I was born and raised Protestant.

I learned the Catholic prayers right here in this city and Never knew there was gonna be a 9-eleven where one day someone was gonna look at me and said, will you open the morgue? And I had a collar on the the whole frock if you will of looking Catholic and I said, I'm not Roman Catholic.

And I'll never forget This this government official there at the site at ground zero said if you don't mind father today You're both Roman Catholic and Irish. I said I've got at least half of that down total and and I go in but things happen for a reason and I think that all the preparation of life was almost in some ways for that day.

And I believe.

For this day for this now and I believe that with my whole heart. Yeah, so the things that I have experienced in life and I would say that to anybody. You know, and I don't know if this is okay because I feel this.

I've had some bad days.

Most of us have and Bad days make people do some crazy things. Bad days have made people take their lives. Bad days have made people take other people's lives. And what I want to say to you is this is is you know, Jesus lived.

We see 12 12 years of his life as a child and I'm thankful we can see that but my goodness there's 18 years or so. We see nothing all of a sudden he shows up and he's 30 years old. Yeah, he just shows up.

He's 30 years old in three years. Everything that me and you are doing everything you and I are doing everything that has happened in the world of Christianity happened because of three years. And I just really this is my point.

Who knows if your next three years. If you just live through today. Will be something that will impact the world. Impact the people that are around you change their lives. So your bad day today It has nothing to do with what your tomorrow can be it can change in an instant.

And I think people make decisions off of bad days. I know so many people that I've talked to that I've Woke up one morning with empty arms. One of my closest friends who is a Emmy Award winner. She Grammy Award.

She's an incredible singer. She woke up aching. She woke up hurting because and she was younger. It just seemed like it was her career. It was everything was down the tubes. Everything was down the drain and one day she found out she was expected.

And she wouldn't had an abortion because she had a bad day.

Now.

All these years later. She had to one day say That made that bad day made me make a decision to murder my child.

There's a lot of intimate acquaintance you have like this whole issue. Yeah.

That we've got to stop it, you know, we've got to stop it and we have a we have a Generation right now that is trying so hard and sometimes in ways that are.

Not.

Necessarily the right way, you know when struggles happen civil civil rights struggles and all kind of things. I mean there's things that are done that are right. There are things that are done sometimes that are wrong and.

But we're so big about trying to rewrite. This generation is really wanting to real, you know to redo and to rewrite wrongs and. And what I would love for our society to know. And it's historic. It's there.

You don't have to look hard. You don't have to research hard. Abortion was created.

By wicked.

Horrible wicked politicians. And people with power and influence. To get rid of racist to get rid of ethnic unwanted ethnic groups in our country to get rid of people that was considered the down-and-out to get rid if you will if you will almost like animals to control groups of Humanity that they would never find a place of dominance or a place of power and so they tried to rid our nation of by killing off people and.

They thought that smart people would never have abortions because they would know better so it would never affect the elite. Oh.

Wow.

But it would dispose of the poor and Just dispose of those that were of racial backgrounds that our elitist society didn't want to be here. This is the biggest biggest issue today of why Infants lives matter.

There you go.

You know you. You are working towards something that isn't regulating the abortion industry, but actually abolishing Yes ending criminalizing Abortion on purely legal constitutional just grounds. It's a human being.

That's a fact from conception. All human life matters whether it's black white Whatever color whatever size whatever gender all human life matters, and we have to protect it. Yes by law. Yes, and so you're being very consistent with the Constitution with the laws of Kentucky with the law of God and You're asking the people of Kentucky to partner with you essentially to speak consistently on this issue for the unborn.

And.

We want to support you and we want the world to support you and we've got your back. And so one of the ways people can get a hold of you is I'll just go ahead and read here is we are Kentucky 2018 at yahoo .com PayPal .com.

And then heart of fire at integrity .com is where people can website. It's the website people can get a hold of you. Okay, so we talked about this in the live stream a bit, but you've got and we'll finish up here you are.

Generating all this based upon principle principles of law principles of Constitution Principles of states rights so when you look at two issues and one's already being done across the country The legalization of marijuana.

States are saying to the federal government We reject your decree right and we're going to govern ourselves right here. You're saying the same thing about the abortion. Absolutely. We reject your very fallacious Opinion absolutely courts don't make laws.

Anyways, our Constitution forbids such a thing absolutely and so the states have the right to say to the federal government and issues like this. We reject your authority and your decree right and so is it possible for the people of Kentucky to Abolish abortion to end it.

Absolutely. It is.

It comes down to Several things. One is we have state rights and we as a state can say In our state we refuse this law. It's unconstitutional, right? Then we have the right if if it were to come in in into a lawsuit if you will.