The Meaning of Life - 3. Free to Be Ourselves — Norman Grubb

Well thank you, such a spirit of blessing among us here, the Lord, thank you Lord, you're always the same, you are here in your fullness always, in us, through us, by us, we just see your living self, thank you, Amen.

Fatherhood and the Recognition of Christ Within

Now, there is a, what shall I call it, third stage of recognition, because everything is only recognizing who he is, that's all, who he is, in us, by us, through us, that's all, it isn't growth in us, it's growth in grace, which is what he has given to us, and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

So all stages, stages of enlarged recognition, that's all of him. And there's a third one, as I quoted yesterday, stated by the Bible as the fatherhood, I'm not going to speak on that this morning, I think I should give the last two sessions I'm privileged to have with you, Friday and Saturday.

There are certain areas of understanding which have been very revolutionary to me in the fatherhood level, one is how to replace negative seeing by positive seeing, how to live by positive seeing of believing in place of negative, that's an area of its own.

And then how as sons to use our authority, which is the word of faith, we are authoritative sons of God, and we are authoritative sons by the operation of the word of faith, and by the highest privilege of the laid down life in intercession, the outpoured life in intercession.

Those are three understandings of some of the operations of God in fatherhood, in outer action, because fatherhood is outer action, the other is inner. But I felt this morning I'd like again to go over somewhat the final, shall I call it, point of recognition, we came to last night, who a real person is, who am I?

The Person as Christ Expressed Through Humanity

A real person is God expressed by a person, a real person is Christ in that person's form, we are really Christ in our human form, we are really God expressed by us, tremendous, that's a real person. The whole universe is God expressed by universe, but in a remarkable fashion, we are Gods, we are free people as God is, so in a very special way it's another matter when God is expressed by me because I'm a free person, so God expressed by me means I operate as a free person, it isn't I, it's He, that's the secret.

A tree is just a tree, an animal, it has instincts, it's an animal, we are free people, and so it's us, it's we're not we, we're He, we're not we, we're He, and yet we're He, and yet we're we, yet we're we, we're in action, and it is not we but He, that's the secret.

That's because self is always to be in the foreground, the universe was never seen, I told you that, only in its particular form, you never see electricity, you only see that, you never see the atom, you only see that, you never see God, you only see suns, sun and suns, the sun and through the sun the sun, that's all there ever be seen.

So we forever will be Godly manifestation, so we need to know what it is to be a person, that we are free people to be absolutely free people, with every potential we have in total action, and I take it down here our potential is only like the tip of an iceberg, what it will be when we become free people as sons of God in eternal dimension.

That's why it's taken so long for us to know what it is to be a person, so we saw this, to be a person, a real person, is to be me, whichever your grammar gives you, but didn't I see, and I know that so, I live on that background fact, that's why to me the John 3 .16 for the believer is Galatians 2 .20.

John 16 we all know for the unbeliever is God so loved the world, whosoever believes on him shall not perish and so on. What I may call the John 16 the key verse for the redeemed, the believer, to me is Galatians 2 .20, if you have many of you know that as well as I do by heart, if not you should underline and mark it down.

Because there you get the three levels of the self, the three levels of the self, I am crucified with Christ, that's the old one out, as we saw yesterday, identified in Christ's cross, cut off in Christ's cross from that spirit of error which once dominated me, dead to sin.

May slip into sins but never sin again because sin is the principle of self-sentence, we cut off forever from that, in identification with the death of Christ. I am crucified with Christ, first I, that I out, oh wait a minute I live, one, I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, some moment, dead, yet not I but Christ is in me, that's the second one.

It's really from wrong self to no self to right self, this is the no self. I am crucified with Christ, that's the wrong one out to the fall, no self, no it's not I, it's Christ living, not with me, not by me, not for me, me, me, because he replaces me, listen to what Paul says, I live, no I don't live, yet not I, Christ lives, in other words he replaces me.

So the real you is Christ, and the real you is a living God, because Paul, John, more usually speaks of God dwelling in you, brother Roland said we should head out there to go. Paul on the whole speaks, or both, speaks of Christ dwelling in you, they both speak of the spirit dwelling in you, dwelling is permanency, dwelling is not in and out, dwelling is not visitation, dwelling is ownership.

This is ownership, it's something fixed, that's dwelling. And that's what Jesus said, he said I am the vine, you are the branches, that's one tree, the branch is only the vine in branch form, isn't it?

The vine is coming through, it's the vine in its form, so you are Christ in your human form, that's all, you are Christ in your Elizabeth form, or your John form, or your Tom form, whatever you may be.

That's the second I, the no self as it were, as if I've disappeared and it's he, I crucified, the wrong one out, I live, no it isn't I living, it's Christ living, the right one in, which is Christ expressed by my humanity, but the expression, that's the third one.

Living by Faith in the Son of God

Now the third one, life, I now live in the flesh, I live it again, by the faith of the son of God, remember faith is knowledge, faith is having something, faith isn't getting something, faith is being something, faith is substance, faith of the son of God means, oh oh yes, I've been joined to him, he's permanently loved me, gave himself for me, now I'm a co-lover and a co-giver for others, I'm with him and he's co-loving and co-giving for others.

But you see, I come back, I now live, I live in the flesh, so every Christian is a thorough egotist, if you're not a thorough egotist, you're not a thorough Christian yet, because you've come back as a great big I, but you've got a wink in it, because it's him inside you, that's your private secret.

So I live with a permanent wink, didn't I, it's he. And to be a permanent joke, because he can live in that, and a bigger joke because he can live in that. So life's a permanent joke to me. There was never any greater egotist on earth than Jesus Christ.

I think you say egotist, but you don't know English right, I'm sorry for you. There was never a greater egotist on earth than Jesus Christ, the big I, I am the life, I am the way, I am the door, I am the light, I, I, I, oh I, I, I until you saw inside him.

Antony opened up his inner secret as though he could take it. And they challenged him how he could do things. Oh, he says, the son, I the son, do nothing but myself. I do what I see the father do. What the father does, I'm doing.

And they challenged him on his judgements. Why do you say this, why do you say this? Oh, I judge nothing but myself as I hear I judge. Of course, in our external relationship, Separation is illusion. Union is truth.

Spirit is universal one. That's truth, that's reality. This is illusion, or shall I say temporary appearance. Just temporary appearance. That's all. Pass it. Things that are seen are temporal. Things that are not seen are eternal.

And so, if I call it the temporary, the unreal, the illusion, whatever word you use, separate outlook. When he made a statement like that, Oh, the son, I the son, do nothing but myself. I do what I see the father do.

Of course, they thought he must have some long sight, some telescopic sight, to a father up there or something. The way he said, oh, I know nothing, I do nothing but myself. As I hear I judge. They must have thought he had long ears of some kind.

We can have hindsight. They didn't, so we can go back now. We know, know, know, know. When they finally challenged him, because he tickled, he stirred him up to ask it. He always likes stirring people up to questions, because when they question, you want something.

You're not just sitting, sitting, going to sleep, as some people do. But, so he stirred him up to questions. Socrates had the same principle. Stir people up to questions, then something's happening. And so he stirred them up by saying he's going to the father.

And apparently going to leave them. That's from John 14. And they said, oh, they said, if you're going to the father, won't you show him to us before you go? Oh, he said, he made it worse. He said, whither I go, you know, and the way you know.

That was rather tricky, because he knew they didn't know the way. Whither I go, you know the way. The way you know. We don't know the way. We don't know the way. What do you mean, know the way? That's why he said, I am the way.

That's the new spirit. I am the way. And then one of them said, show us the father. You know what he said? Oh, he said, show us the father. They thought up here, of course, going to the father. Because space-time is third dimension.

There's no space-time, it's all eternally one in the fourth dimension, of course. And so, what's his answer? He said, if you've seen me, you've seen the father. That's it. If you've seen me, you've seen the father.

He wasn't the father, he's the son. What do you mean? Then he explained it. He said, you have a new quality of believing. You don't have to believe I'm just in some relation to a person up here. Believe it sounds like I'm in the father.

The father and me, that's not an earth relationship. We're not materially in each other like that. Spiritually, thank God, we've begun to know we are. So it's introducing a new relationship to them. An inner relationship.

And then to make it completely clear, he added this. Read it in John 14. He said, listen, it's like this. He says, I speak words unto you. I, the human Jesus Christ on earth. I speak words unto you. The words I speak unto you, I speak not of myself.

But the father, where? That dwells in me. He does the works. It's always been a permanent inner consciousness. Inner union. Everything is consciousness. You are what you know you are. You know what you know you are.

I am my father one. You know it. And so he lived by the inner knowledge. He never had to find his father. He recognized he was his father in the son form. He just went into what he said and did without great efforts and great prayers.

Just by the basic recognition, this is not he. This is true living. And then the Bible says, for as he is, so are we in this world. 1 John 4, 17. As he is, he was a person, an expression of the father.

The son, an expression of the father. As he is, so are we, not one day, in this world. So you are now the expression of father, son and spirit. You are now as Jesus Christ was on earth. You are Jesus Christ on earth.

Your outer self, an expression of the inner trinity. Father, son, spirit expressed by us. So that is this real living. Now again I am stressing to you, running over it again, you live freely by consciousness.

When you know a thing, it's you. That's all you are. Now knowing is not this. It has to include that. It's being mixed with something. Knowing is the personal capacity by which something is mixed with.

That's the Bible terminology for knowledge. That's why even sexual intercourse is called knowing in the Bible. Adam knew Eve because it's being mixed with. So I just use that to remind you that this knowledge, it's not, it's something, it becomes you.

Part of you, you know. This is eternal life. I know the only true God and Jesus Christ knows him. Knowing is being part of him. So I said to you, I just remind you again, because it's a reminder, thank God, which is a fact of some of you, probably not a fact of all of us yet.

Faith as the Positive Word of a Present Fact

You come to know what you see to be within your reach. And you want it. It's available. It's acceptable. You want it. You can't prove it's allowable until you get it. But that's what faith is. Reach it out to something.

Now this therefore is for those of us who have come somewhere to despair about running our own lives. That is the second stage. So it may not be for everybody here. It's when you're somewhere or other you've been knocked down because you can't run your own life.

That's something, somewhere you can't manage your problems, whatever kind they are. You can't manage your temptations or your, the challenge is to have this and be that and be loving and be, you can't do it.

Something missing. You're not able somehow to be the person you ought to be. And you move into the second despair. The despair that I told you Romans 6, O wretched man I am. And not the despair of the sinner.

This is the despair of the whole. Who could deliver me from this? I'm not, I'm dragged about by something. I, I, I am dragged about. Deliver me. See when he wrote that he hadn't understood the real me was Christ in him.

He didn't understand that. So you see this is based somewhere on having come to the recognition. I, under the illusion of independence. Independence is an illusion when you're redeemed. It's a fact when you're unredeemed.

We're no longer, never again independent. We're a union person. You and Christ are one person. And the real person is Christ by you. You're the unity. You're a branch of mine forever, forever, forever.

That's all you are. But when you're first saved you don't know that. It's true. We've been through use of separation and independence. So we know Christ here died for me. And who may visit me. I may call on him.

I might even say he lives in me. But I don't know him as me. We don't want to know him just in me. I want to know him as me. The one who's the real I. Otherwise there's still separation. There's no separation in this thing.

It's unity. It's union. It's one. He who has joined the Lord is one spirit. And so when by some means or other we've come to this point of despair where we're redeemed people but we got the mistaken idea we're still independent people.

And so we're trying to make it work with God's help. And we've come to some kind of despair. We're in a condition where this revelation can become real to us. Maybe we, all of us, hope we do know it in head.

That's a good start. You know it in head. It isn't you. It's Christ in you. It's Christ living in you. And somehow this can come to that place of faith. Faith is that faculty by which we reach out and take something which is available and desirable.

It's available and we desire it. We can't say it's allowable yet. It's only allowable when we know it. Faith reaches out something available and desirable. Then faith makes it allowable by us being joined to it.

It was available for you to come here this week. It was presumably desirable to come. It wasn't allowable. Well you couldn't say it was allowable until you came here. When your faith said I'll come and materially speaking your car, your plane brought you here.

Now faith has disappeared and become fact. You are here now. It's allowable now. You are here. What you took by faith has become fact to you. It's your consciousness. You're here. You don't say I believe I'm here.

You say I am here. Faith disappears and becomes fact. So faith always becomes fact. It's fact. Faith, the Hebrews 11 .1 says, is the substance of things hoped for. So it isn't this. So I'm only saying that.

If you say maybe, oh I hear this probably dozens of times. Yes I do recognise it's not I but Christ. I don't say that works too well in me perhaps. I can't say I really, it's grabbed me in a way. I know it.

Perhaps you're in that condition. Now the knowledge of a thing doesn't come from the faith. It comes from the thing. It comes from the thing in which you put your faith. Food becomes real to me not because I took it but because the food gets me.

I take the food. Then the food's a reality. It's inside me. I take a chair. The chair's a reality. I take a profession. The profession's a reality. My taking brings me in a position in which something becomes real to me.

I say I've come here this weekend. I've come here. It's a reality. Reality isn't in the faith. It's in the thing which comes back to you as a reality and says here I am. OK that's it. So the reality comes from the thing or the person you take.

Not from the taking. I only say that therefore the way, if anybody says well yes, OK. I want this to be so. I believe it is so. The Bible says so. It's not I, it's Christ. Maybe I can't say it's all that real to me yet.

I see it. I want it. Well what you can do is you can say it is. You can say because God's word says I say it is. Faith is always the positive word of a fact being a fact. When you took Jesus as a saviour you didn't say Jesus I hope you'll be my saviour.

You didn't say please be my saviour. You said thank you Jesus you are my saviour. You had to move it. Thank you Jesus you are. The moment you said that he said OK I am. And the whole debate came through.

He didn't come through until you had said first Jesus by faith I'm saying you are what I don't feel at all. I'm not least conscious of. I say so because you say so. Then he says OK that's so. Faith comes by hearing.

Hearing by the word of God. The word of God says it but you've got to hear the word of God. Hearing isn't just utter. It's got you. Oh yeah. Oh yes. I'm hearing it. And faith says I say it's so. I say it's so.

So I'm only saying therefore this isn't some new thing. This is what you are since you've been born again. If you've been redeemed you're unified and just didn't know it that's all. The moment you're redeemed the Holiest Spirit has joined you to himself.

Jesus Christ and you become one person. God and you become one person. And you become a means by which the living God expresses himself from the moment you're born again. It's just you haven't understood because you weren't in close enough range to understand who you are.

So it isn't a question of some new thing. It's a question of recognition of who you are. But even that's not point to you until it's confirmed to you. Oh I know I am. I know I am. So that's all. So if you're any along that line you're not clear.

Say you are. Go away and say you are. Don't say you're even willing. Tell God you're not willing but it's a fact anyhow. Don't try out your own will. Don't get the self trying its own willingness. Tell God you're not willing.

You don't like him. Don't want him. But he's got you anyhow. If you tell him that he'll get you. Be honest. So don't try and pretend. Don't say I'm too afraid. Say God I'm thoroughly afraid. And if you take me I don't know what will happen.

But anyhow you got me. So OK. And you find he gently makes everything beautiful. Makes everything beautiful. So I hope you go away. Those of you who have ears to hear that. That word of God. I say that word of God.

Say I am that. I am forever. Never must have again. I'm ever actually. It looks like me. It's Christ in my human form. I say so because the Bible says so. And then the Holy Spirit comes and says OK OK OK.

And the Holy Spirit. You can't say when. That's not your business. That's not your business. Sometimes immediately. Sometimes by some external baptism or something. Sometimes by some internal recognition.

But something which I know. You live by knowing. I told you all along. You're confident in the job because the job's got you. Not you got it. You've got how to teach that. How to use those tools. How to do that engineering.

How to do this. You've got it. It's got you. You're free in it. It's a consciousness. You live. You're free. When things become yours. Consciousness. Then you practice it outwardly. That's this. This freedom.

As it catches on to us. Changes our outlook. Because you've begun to live by a new consciousness. I am I. But I'm not I. It's he running things. Now until I know that I'm afraid of my flesh. Because I'm so weak.

I've had none of that. My temptations. My inabilities. And my longing to pray and I can't pray. And all this sort of business we've been through. I've told you about. We're afraid of our flesh. That's why so often in churches we're given laws.

Freedom from the Law and Acceptance of the Self

You ought to. You ought to. Watch those words. You ought to nothing. Except recognize Jesus Christ as you. That's all. You ought to nothing. Cut the word ought to out of your vocabulary. Blot it out in ink.

The word ought to belongs to law. Paul says in Romans 7. You're dead to the law. Now the law is the ought to. Why do you think you ought to? That was God's beauty in giving us. God couldn't give us himself in our fallen condition.

We couldn't see grace and love. So through an angel. Not through the servant says. Through an angel he gave us the law. The ought to. Ought to. To face us up. You see. We're independent. Oh I'll be what you ought to be.

Of course that caught us into guilt. And finally got us into salvation. Now why do you still think you're caught up by the independence? I ought to. The law says OK. Do it. So the law is still there. Why do you think you ought to?

The word ought to belongs to law. Law's not there. It died out in Satan. You read Romans 7. You're dead to the law. As well as. Because. You're dead to the law when. When you're not there. What's the law?

Who's the law shouting at? I'm not here. Christ is me. Who's the law shouting at? He's got no one to shout at. So you see. Don't take us all to. What's those ought tos? When they come. No no no no. The only person who does a job in me is Christ.

Get on doing it God. Throw it back on him every time. So you see. We've got. We've got used to suspicious fearful attitude towards self. Flesh. Oh I'm so afraid I shall rush off into sin. Rush off into that and I do this and do that.

And we sort of live godly. Because all we really are have is a self. A consciousness of an independent self with Christ. That's not good enough. It's a lie. We're not an independent self with Christ. We are Christ.

We're a union. We're not independent with him. He's become the we. Now. So in the new life. You get a new consciousness. Because you're not running yourself any longer. So you have a change of attitude.

Not only towards this Christ. Towards yourself. You accept yourself as a wonderful asset. You change seeing self from liability to asset. We've looked upon flesh as liability. Oh for goodness sake. I do this and I have this and this.

Oh I wish I were rid of it. Like Paul said. A wretched man. When it's settled into me. I'm not I. Christ. He's the manager. He's the one running this show. I find. Oh I'm beautiful. This is God's asset.

It's through my emotions and my will and my physical and my mental and my volition. Here he comes. This is beautiful. I accept myself back daringly. I be free to be myself. Because he's to run it. I heard a dear brother just recently preaching on this kind of life.

And he said life is committal and maintaining. He's wrong. It's life is committal and being maintained. Which is quite different. Quite different. It isn't committal. I must maintain. I must hang on. I must hang on.

Or he'll slip or something. You're maintained. When you don't know it he's there. Even when you disobey you he's there. Even if you sin he's still there. He's a tough one. He sticks to what he gets. Christ.

Oh. I have a book called Once Caught No Escape. I've been trying to escape 50 years and can't. He's got a tough couple of hands. That one up there. He grabs and won't let go. I'm rather glad really. So don't bother.

Don't bother yourself. Dare you? Dare you say. I won't bother myself. I'll be myself. Because I'm a run self now. I'm not a maintaining self. I'm a maintained self. Even that word abiding is used wrongly.

Some of you here who know Greek. It's very simple. The word abiding is to remain. Remain in me. Remain in you. Now how does a branch remain in the tree? Well of course it may have its own unconscious life.

I don't know. It's remained by just being. Isn't it? A branch remains just by being in the tree. It's remaining as a being. Now your abiding isn't Oh I must get back and abide. It's recognising you always were there and always will be.

Recognising you always were there and always will be. Remaining is OK I'm there. So abiding is OK I'm there. Even if I've made a bit of a fuss OK I'm there. God's not seeing my fuss. He's too busy loving me.

Too busy having given the blood to blot the other out. God doesn't see sin. He put sin out two thousand years ago in the blood of Christ. He can't see it. He sees the blood not the sin. It's we silly people who see the sins.

So he gives us the assurance of the blood to be acclaimed. He doesn't see it. It's out with him. Well so there's this freedom. You see now just be an ordinary person. Dare to be an ordinary person. You are what God in you wakes.

Precisely where you are what you are. Precisely as you are physically, mentally, spiritually you are what you are. Be yourself. Just be yourself. And as I almost forget God. What do I mean by that? Well you all you all are people with a profession.

Well you're busy fulfilling it. If you run a house you're running a house. If you're cooking you're cooking. If you're engineering you're engineering. If you're teaching you're teaching. Now you're not saying I'm a teacher, I'm a teacher, I'm a teacher I'm a teacher.

You're teaching. You're not saying I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor I must remember I'm a doctor. You're doing medicine. You're not saying I'm a cook, I'm a cook, I'm a cook. You're cooking. You see you don't go back to try and remember who you are.

You just be as who you are. Forget Jesus and be yourself because you are Jesus. Forget Jesus and be yourself because you are Jesus. Be yourself. Dare to do your funny cooking. I don't know what your husband will say.

Dare to do your teaching, dare to do a thing, and that is he doing it. Don't say, is he doing it, that's he doing it, forget him and do it. So there's a, life's a queer thing. You first have to have an inner consciousness, by which you know something, then you forget you know it and do it.

And you're doing it, you're expressing you're knowing it. You don't keep saying, I know it, I know it, I know it, you do it. So don't keep saying, Christ, Christ, Christ, be him, be him. And that's ordinary living.

And dare to believe ordinary living is he. Don't be afraid of yourself, you are the love, don't get the love, you are the love. You are the will, don't be afraid, you are the will, use your mind, use your, don't be afraid of your motives, follow your motives, and if they're wrong tell God to put them right, that's all.

He's running you. So be free to be yourself, think your thoughts, we have the mind of Christ, we have the love of God, we have the will of God. Do the next thing. If it's wrong, tell him to put it right.

He's pretty good at doing it. See? This is this new quality of life. Daring freedom. I agree with Augustine. Augustine said, love God and do as you like. I said, amen, that's exactly what I do. I just do all my life exactly what I like.

So, great fun. Sounds dangerous, God handles danger, you know flesh and spirit. If you do get caught in the flesh, God will get after you. He'll get you back, good and hearty, he'll get you back. Even if you do slip, leave in your mind the slippings.

He'll handle them. Don't you judge about those slips, just take them for granted, God's got them, you'll see them come back. Well, this is life, being ourselves. And this is Christ coming through us. If I may leave one little illustration.

Freedom Illustrated by Ordinary Work and Christian Witness

I had the privilege of being some years, had some friendship with the Jimmy Carter family. Some of you may know the mother, Lillian. Precious, precious person, you probably know her. She works in the patent work, the mother of Jimmy Carter.

And his sisters, two sisters, Ruth I know a little bit, the other one, Lester, I know very well, Gloria. She's a tough one, I like her. She's the older one. She's married, Gloria Spange, farmer's wife, lives quite near, loves her brother.

And I love her, because we met first about ten years ago, and she found this secret in a conference. Oh, it's not I, it's Christ. She's of course a down-to-earth person, drives her motorcycles, gets the toughies round her.

She gets the kids from wealthy homes, the parents don't know what's happening, and she gets them with their drugs and so on, and loves them and wins them round her. With her motorcycles and so on. She's a great girl.

A fifty-year-old girl. And I want to tell you what, I've just had this weekend with her, I'll tell you a moment about that. Incidentally, I'll say this. I mustn't enter into American politics, must I?

But you know, to me, it's a tremendous thing, that there'll be someone standing for the presidency who knows Jesus. You see, I had privilege for fifteen years of being in close connection with the international Christian leadership movement, which has a presidential prayer breakfast.

Abraham Baradio, finally, that was my great friend, I wrote his life. So I've been at all the presidential prayer breakfasts since they started, since President Eisenhower's first one. Now, they're dear men.

I believe many of them truly wanted to do the best thing they could do. I've never heard any of them mention, they say, God. They say God. They say God. Jimmy Carter says Jesus Christ. And there's a vacant difference.

There's a vacant difference. And let me tell you a secret. I've met some secret, hard-called Republicans, who whisper, I'm going to visit, I'm going to vote for Jimmy Carter. Of course, they don't dare tell their co-Republicans, maybe.

I had the privilege of visiting with him, I know, because I was brought by Gloria to have a time with him some time ago. And he knows the Lord. And I was just asked to send him one of those little books.

So I put in it a word of prophecy. I said, Jimmy, you're the next president, and you're to have the wisdom God gave Solomon. Of course, you're seeking God's glory, not man's glory. And I believe it to be true.

Well, this is the story. You'll see what I mean. Gloria, the sister, came into this freedom. Christ, oh, it's Christ running my life. I just run off in my cycles and do things. It's Christ coming through to these young fellows and so on.

And she got hold of this, was thrilled with it, and went home. This was about eight years ago. Three weeks after, I had a letter from her. The letter had a real good touch in it. She said, wrote to me, she said, you know what the Lord has given to me in this conference?

Well, she said, this is what happened to me. When I came home, I found her at my desk. She, of course, is in agriculture things. She belongs to a garden club. An invitation, would I speak to the garden club on herbs?

Of course, we English keep our H's. You lose them. We say herbs. You say herbs. I can't help you on that one. A lecture on herbs. But she said, I knew nothing about herbs. So she said, for about three days, I gave myself to studying herbs to give my lecture.