(Genesis) Genesis 3 — Joe Focht

The Creation of Woman and the Purpose of Marriage

We have come to Genesis chapter 2 verse 23, God in a grand demonstration to Adam, parades the animal kingdom before him, each one with their mate, Adam giving names, obviously it seems not to every single creature under heaven, but to all of those that were immediately associated with him, it seems, and it seems to me that God's point in that was for Adam to see the animals with their partners, and then it says, but for Adam there was not a helper found suitable for him, or meet for him, so it was an object lesson, look Adam, you know, name these animals Mr. and Mrs. Lion, see that, you know, Mr. and Mrs. Bear, Mr. and Mrs. Cow, Mr. and Mrs., you know, and here you are, Adam, all alone, you know, God was making a point with him, because Adam was in paradise, and when it's just you and God in paradise, you don't know anything's missing, and God knew that it wasn't good for him to be alone, so he now causes a deep sleep to come on Adam, and different, if you remember, the last time we were here from how he created Adam, which was of the dust of the ground, it doesn't say that he formed Eve of the dust of the ground, it literally says he built her from flesh and bone from Adam's side, not from the dust of the earth, and there is in that a lesson in itself of, of course, man's responsibility towards his wife, towards his spouse, that she is bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh, part of him, not just formed from the dust of the ground, but actually taken from him.

Adam then says, she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man, and then we come to these verses, in verses 24 and 25, that are quoted four times in the New Testament, it says, therefore shall a man leave his mother and his mother and cleave unto his wife, they shall be one flesh, they were both naked, the man and his wife, they were not ashamed.

Now, really, that is written to apply to us, Adam and Eve did not leave their father and their mother, they didn't have a father and mother, they showed up, and they were created, but quoted four times in the New Testament, the point is, for you and I, because God works this way, because it's not good for man to be alone, because God takes the time, I believe, if we pray, and we seek him to bring about the suitable partner for us, therefore, because God does those things, and he's intimately involved, therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother, cleave unto his wife, they shall be one flesh, the man and his wife were naked, they were not ashamed.

So, it sets up this principle of marriage, what God is intending, therefore, because it's not good for man to be alone, because God is concerned and cares about our marriage, and our marriages, corporately, shall a man leave his father and mother, the first thing that it talks to us about there is severance.

Now, it's not saying that you move to another state, you have to understand that, it's not talking about a geographical move, though sometimes people find that a blessing, that is not what it's saying, because in the Bible, the groom would build an addition to his father's house, and the bride would come and live on the inheritance of the groom and of the father, it means she'd live right by her mother-in-law too, and she would just come live right there.

So, when it talks about leaving father and mother, the idea is, of all human relationships, the relationship between a husband and a wife is most sacred, it is the only relationship compared to Christ and the church, it is more sacred than the love between a parent and a child.

And I think one of the great mistakes that many parents make is, they become more attached to the child than to their spouse, they end up putting more time into their kids, or living their dreams through their kids, and not making their spouse a priority, and it's very easy, I mean, you know, the husband and the wife are adults, they're busy about their business, they're doing things, and the kids are the ones who constantly need attention, so I think that's a trap that we can fall into.

But it's very interesting that the divorce rate soars between 45 and 55, in the church and out of the church, across the board, because that's the time when the kids move out of the house, and two adults look at each other and think, my God, who are you?

You know, somehow there's a connection here that goes back years, I understand, but what do we do with ourselves now? And it can be a very difficult time, so the first thing that God says is, there should be the leaving of father and mother, and that severance needs to be there.

And the idea is, above all other human relationships, this now takes a priority, it isn't that you move to another state or somewhere, it's the idea that this is the most important human relationship that you have.

You have to understand that there's no more running home to mothers. I'm going to my mom's. Well, I hope they, you know, parents, if your kids just get married, change the locks when they move out. They should not be able to run back to you.

I mean, you've raised them with certain values, they make a decision, they choose a spouse, then it's the parents' responsibility to honor that. Get your nose out of their business, don't be over the house all the time, telling that wife what to do this, how to do this, Bobby loves this, now Bobby loves his socks rolled this way, and Bobby, you know, don't be a mom says, he ran away with that floozy, he doesn't come see me anymore.

You know, look, the husband and wife relationship takes a priority over your relationship with your child. God honors it, it's sacred. And the first thing that's necessary for them to have a healthy home is for them both to have a sense of that we've left other relationships, all other relationships, to make this a priority.

I mean, with my wife at home, you know, when we first got married, she would constantly say to me, and you don't understand, like that. And I would say, yes I do, you know, and I would even get mad and say, what do you mean I don't understand?

I'm an understanding person! But as time went on, I come to realize I don't understand. Now that's okay, because the important thing is, I will always be there. I may not always understand, but I'll always be there.

And that's worth a lot today. That's worth a lot today. So the first thing that's necessary is severance. There has to be making all other relationships secondary. Then it says that he shall cleave to his wife.

We like to use the idea of being glued, and certainly that is inferred. We find the word in Exodus, I believe, and I might be wrong, chapter 15, we find it in Deuteronomy 28, where God says that if the Israelites will walk with him and keep his statutes, none of the diseases that were upon the Egyptians shall cleave to them.

And in that sense, a disease, of course, is interwoven with our very fiber. It becomes part of us. The problem with cancer is it takes over our cells, it becomes part of us. It is used in Job 19 -20, where Job talks about his illness and his fasting and says his bone and his skin were cleaving together, they were stuck together.

Or in chapter 29, around verse 10, Job says that his tongue was stuck to the top of his mouth, it was dried there in his pain. And that's the idea, it speaks of a permanence. Cleaving to the wife has the idea, and no doubt it takes time.

It isn't like, you know, I get them here up on the altar and I put rubber cement on each side of them and go and stick them together and it's done. It takes time for this permanence to set in, for two lives to be interwoven and start to understand the way the other person operates.

And I find that Kathy and I now, lots of times, now there's rough edges, but lots of times it's very smooth because I know what she's going to do in a situation, she knows how I'm going to respond. There becomes that sense of oneness.

We're a team. What's going on? Very necessary. Cleaving. And then it says that they shall be one flesh. Now, that is clearly speaking about sexual union. In 1 Corinthians 6 .16 it says, if you join yourself to a harlot, to a prostitute, speaking of sexual sin, don't you know you become one flesh with her?

By the way, this concept, this phrase, one flesh, is the most common phrase used throughout the Bible when marriage is spoken of. Sexual union, very, very important in marriage. It tells us in 1 Corinthians 17 that the wife and the husband should not defraud one another, except for a period possibly of fasting, lest Satan will come and get the advantage.

Because we live in a world that is very aggressive in alluring the flesh. Even as Christians, billboards, television ads, magazines, Time magazine, everything around us, there is much that stirs the flesh.

It's very important that the husband and wife understand and enjoy the intimacy that God intends them to have. And too often we see a great mistake in Christian marriage where there is the defrauding, where one of the partners is using it to manipulate the other partner.

And it shouldn't be happening. It shouldn't be happening. It is a great balm, a great ointment sometimes when there is difficulty, sometimes when words will not be sufficient to ease feelings and so forth and emotions.

It is something that God placed in marriage. It is something that God blessed. It is something that is God ordained and God designed. And it is a necessary ingredient for a healthy marriage. There has to be severance.

There has to be acceptance, that cleaving. And there has to be intimacy. They are not multiple choice. All of them are necessary or we won't see a healthy marriage. And by the way, husbands, you will never have the proper level of intimacy, that's mentioned third, unless first you work on that cleaving, that becoming one.

And you can never really become one unless your spouse knows you are never running home to mom, unless there is the leaving. And if you examine these in a reverse order, you see how they all work and how they are very necessary.

So God gives us this picture of the original marriage. It involved a cleaving to one another over all other relationships, a becoming one and a great intimacy. All of God's design and all very important.

Then it says, they were naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed. Of course, they are in a state of innocency. Again, we talked about this last time. I believe they are clothed with light.

There is no sense of nakedness. There is no shame attached with their state at this point in time. Now, all of this is setting the stage for chapter three as we move into it. And it tells us there, now, the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.

The Serpent’s Deception and the Nature of Satan

Now, as we head into this again, realize this. We are going to see Eve now tempted. You know, I think in our minds, lots of times we see Eve by an apple tree. And I guess that's because men have an Adam's apple.

Somehow we think the fruit she ate was an apple. No biblical evidence for that. And we see a snake in the tree. And in our minds we imagine Eve too close to the apple tree and getting in a conversation with a snake.

And no wonder the world thinks we're crazy. I don't think that at all gives us a picture of what takes place. The serpent is more subtle, more crafty, the idea is, in the description of what this beast, this creature is, than all the beasts of the field.

It is the Hebrew word nakash, which is the shining one. It's not a serpent. It's not a snake. Can you imagine a woman standing around talking to a snake? Won't happen. This is the shining one. It tells us in 2 Corinthians that Paul is concerned about the church, lest they be deceived by the subtlety of the enemy, as Eve was deceived.

And he says there, in verse 14, I think, because Satan himself comes disguised as an angel of light. And here, Eve is approached by a shining one. No doubt Adam and Eve, in their unfallen state, also have concourse with angels.

There is an open fellowship with God. Adam and Eve, again, are not going to God saying, oh, forgive me for the way I treated my wife. Oh, forgive me for the, I was mad in traffic in what I said, you know.

Oh, forgive me, you know. None of that is going on. We understand and appreciate that God is faithful and just to forgive us if we confess our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. But Adam and Eve knew none of that.

They were in a state of innocency. There was no repentance. There was no groveling. There was no shamefacedness. They never hung their head. They walked in open fellowship with God in a state of innocency and no doubt had relationship, understood the angelic realm, too.

So one now comes to Eve, a shining one. Ezekiel 28 describes Satan in Eden in his unfallen state. Beautiful. And this shining one comes to Eve now to deceive her. Now, he's fallen somewhere along the way.

I don't know where. By the time he comes to Eve, he is going to deceive her with the same lie he fell for. Because in Isaiah 14 he said to himself, I will be like the most high God. And God cast him down.

He lost dimension. Whatever happened to him. He is certainly still the prince of the power of the air. Certainly a powerful spiritual being. But he comes to her now either possessing a creature that is beautiful or himself disguised as an angel of light.

Coming to Eve to deceive her with the same lie that he fell for that she could be like God. And knowing that man is the apple of God's eye, creating God's image and likeness, now he comes. It says, the serpent, the shining one, was more subtle than any beast in the field which the Lord God had made.

And he said unto the woman, yea, hath God said you shall not eat of every tree of the garden? It infers, is it so that you are not allowed to eat of any of the trees in this garden? Now, Satan is not asking the question because he needs to know the answer.

He is setting Eve up. The woman said unto the serpent, the shining one, we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. Now, what God said is you can eat of all of the trees freely. Of all of them you can freely eat.

She says, we can eat of the trees of the garden, but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die. Now, look over in verse 17 of chapter 2.

God said this, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and of evil, thou shalt not eat of it, for in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. God didn't say you can't touch it. Now, I don't know why they would want to touch it, but God didn't say you can't touch it.

He said you can't eat of it. Eve now has added to that. Well, we're not allowed to eat it, we're not allowed to touch it. I don't know if she got in a conversation with Adam, because God had said this to Adam, and Adam said to her, look, just don't worry about that tree, don't eat it, don't touch it.

You know, sometimes husband and wives do that. And maybe by this time she's thinking, oh, we're not allowed to eat it, we're not allowed to touch it, we just stay away from it. And the serpent said unto the woman, you shall not surely die.

Now, he's quoting that verse more accurately than her. He had been there in 2 .17, listening to what God said to Adam. Because God had said, you shall surely die. She said, in the day we can't touch it or eat it, in the day we do, we'll die.

When Satan quotes it, he says, you shall not surely die. He had been listening. And you see what he's done again is he's got her focused now on the one thing that she couldn't have. And again, you have to imagine how incredible this is, because the Garden of Eden, we don't have any idea of its exact size.

Evidently, it was in Eden, in the land of Eden, in the area of Eden. And God placed this garden eastward to Eden. And God is the one who, it says, planted it and dressed it. He put every, it says, every tree that's pleasant to the eye to look upon, and every tree that's good to the taste, every one in creation, there was a species of it in that garden.

It must have been incredibly beautiful. And just to have been able to wander through there and eat freely and look at all the beauty of it, it's remarkable now that the devil has her thinking about the one single thing that she can't have.

Now, he never does that to us, does he? You know, all of the blessings in our lives, all of the things we got going for us, you know, with all of our gripes and all of our problems, I mean, we have food in our refrigerators, we have antibiotics available to us, we have peace in our land right now, we have heat, we have a roof, we have all of the things the Bible tells us, if we have these things, we should be content.

And Satan will come and he sets us up. God don't let you do anything, does he? Oh, yes, he does. He said we can do all this stuff. There's just one thing we can't do. Oh, really? And he's got our mind already on the one thing we can't do.

And he may do that in your life, you see. There is no doubt in many of your lives that struggle right now going on with some particular thing. Your life is filled with blessing, but there's one thing you've been messing with, you've been playing with it, and God has been telling you, no, that one thing is not...

And Satan comes and he gets your focus off of all the wonderful things that are in your life, and he gets you to focus on the one single thing that you don't have. He does it to all of us. He does it to all of us.

Again, I shared on Sunday morning, just a couple of weeks ago, Kathy and I spent a whole day together on a Thursday, driving, we went somewhere, it was just the two of us, we had the whole day to ourselves, great day, talking, hours on end, you know, oh honey this, oh honey that, just had fun, just a nice day.

It was relaxing, the kids, it was just the two of us, and on the way back we decided, let's drive through Colonel Sanders, and let's buy dinner too, so then we won't even have to do dishes. I mean, it'll be a perfect day, they won't even have to cook, you know.

So, as we got into the line, then she says, well, what do you want, and we go to that, and the lady's trying to talk, can I help you, wait a second, because I didn't want to order the wrong thing, so what exactly do we want here, and then we decide, well, can we have a bucket, you know, however many pieces it is, and then she says, no legs.

I said, no legs? No, she said, well, no darkening, no thighs, no thighs. Okay, the lady's now got us, no thighs. I'm ready to drive away, and Kathy says, no wings. I said, no wings, I like wings, what do you mean no wings?

So, we're in there, so then when we get up to the window, now she's saying to me, well, ask the lady how many pieces, how many breasts did you put in, I said, honey, we should have just ordered breasts, this is a bucket, they put in all kinds of stuff, I'm not going to make her open a lid and count the breasts that are in there, greasy, you know, we'll do that when we get home, you know.

And now we're at each other, we're arguing, and we forgot about all the blessings we had that day, and our focus has gotten on to the one thing that we didn't have. Chicken ordered the way we wanted. Now, you're laughing, and it was easily resolved, I mean, within an hour I said, honey, forgive me.

You know, I made peace whether I was wrong or not, I knew that was what God wanted me to do. But he's a master at that. Getting our focus off all that God has given us, putting our focus on a particular prohibition, something God has prohibited, and then making God seem like he's holding out on us.

And that if we do this God's way, we'll never have the thing we want, we'll never have the guy or the girl or the job or the money. If we do it God's way. Some of you are smiling because you're getting it, but the Holy Spirit's giving it to you right now.

And your mom didn't call and tell us you were coming. This is not a setup. Now, the serpent then says to the woman, you shall not surely die. Now he is flatly contradicting the Word of God. And in verse 5, he slanders God.

For God doth know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be open. That was true. You shall be as God's. That was the lie. You shall know good and evil. That was true. They would know good and not be able to perform it.

They would know evil and not be able to avoid it. They wouldn't be like God. Their eyes would be open. They would be in a pickle. So there's a half-truth here as he's giving that to them. And now he's slandering God.

Now again, take note of this because in your own study through the Scripture, we hear many things about Satan, but we only hear his voice three times throughout the Bible. Actually recorded. Actually quoted.

This is the first time we hear the voice of the devil, and he's slandering God to men. And his tricks have not changed. He is still doing that. If he's a God of love, how could he do this? And if God loves you, then why is this going on in your life?

And you can't trust Him. Don't do it this way. You try your best to do it God's way, and what do you end up with? You never end up with nothing. You never get a date. You never get any money. You never get a job.

You never get a car. You never get a mortgage. You know, he still does that today. The second time we hear his voice, Job chapter 1, there he's slandering Job to God. Slandering man to God. He knows that Job only worships you because you bless him.

You take away his blessings and you'll see what kind of a guy he is. And we have to understand that. He's the accuser of the brethren. He comes to us accusing the brethren. Now the third time we hear his voice, it's exciting because there in the wilderness, he's saying to Jesus, since you're the son of God, turn these stones into bread.

Now the great thing there is he's facing God and man in one person, and he's in a jam and defeated. But notice his voice there. He's slandering God. Now, by the way, if you're in any situation, no matter how difficult it is, and in your own heart, you know, we do doubt God.

I mean, let's be honest. There are times we wonder what he's doing. There are times when we examine our lives and think, well, he's letting this happen to me because I did this or because I'm so unworthy.

But the thing that you can know for sure, as soon as you hear something in your heart slandering the character of God, the devil is present. The enemy's there. Not the devil himself, but one of his buck privates is there bothering you.

The Lust of the Flesh, Eyes, and Pride of Life

Now, look at verse 6. When the woman saw, she didn't see. She thought she saw. When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and the tree was desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof.

Now, look at that. What she saw was this, that the fruit was good to eat, it was pleasant to look on, and would make you wise. What could possibly be wrong with that? You know, if this tree was growing near your house, in your backyard, and you examined this tree and you looked at it, and you saw this tree was good for food, it was pleasant to look on, it was pleasant to the eyes, and it would make you wise, you would think, what could possibly be wrong with this?

What is wrong with any of these three things? Something that's good to eat, something that's pleasant to look upon, and something that will make you wise. What could possibly be wrong with that? Well, it's simply this.

God said, don't do it. That's what's wrong with it. You're going to find out in your Christian experience, there are many things, reason comes to battle with faith. Your reasoning will come to struggle with God's Word.

And you will look at a situation, and you'll know what God has said in His Word, and you'll go through that struggle of, what could possibly be wrong with this? Well, what's wrong with it, is God has given you in His Word some passage or some verse that prohibits a particular thing.

God does that for your safety. God doesn't do that because He's holding out on you. That's what Satan says. If God tells you to stay away from something, it's the same thing as we have kids, and we tell them not to play in the street.

We tell them not to put certain things in their mouths when they're little kids. We constantly instruct our children, and our children give us this, let me do nothing. We do those things because we love them.

We do those things because it's for their own benefit. And they don't understand. God is asking us as adults that we would walk in faith. When His Word says something to us, and we don't understand it with the intellect, He is still expecting us to trust Him, to believe, and to do what He says in faith.

Because to the natural mind, what could possibly be wrong with those things? It would taste good, it was pleasant to look at, and it would make you wise if you ate it. Now, you have to understand that behind all this, the hook is set now.

Once we have the word desire involved, the hook is set. Satan has done his work. Because the heart, the desire of the heart, you know, guard your heart with all diligence, from it flows the issues of life.

Your heart will always make a convert of your mind. If you let yourself set your heart on something, an illicit relationship, money that you shouldn't have, drugs, success at compromise, if you let the desire of your heart get set on something, you'll find as time goes by, your mind will come up with the stupidest excuses in the world to do it.

Because the heart always makes a convert of the mind, given time. And he's got the hook set. Now, she's saying, what could be wrong with this? I'll tell you what it is. It's the lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, the pride of life.

Very simply that. The tree was good to eat. Lust of the flesh. The tree was good to look upon. The lust of the eyes. The tree was good to make one wise. The pride of life. John tells us, in chapter 2, verses 16, 17 in there, of his first epistle, 1 John, Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.

Now, again, he's not just talking about the creation. Nothing wrong with the trees and the bushes. And we have to understand the context. See, God, same author John, said God so loved the world. So in one place, he tells us God loves the world.

There, he's talking about humanity. God so loved the world, same word, that he gave his only son. Whoever believed in him would not perish but have everlasting life. There's one point when he talks about the material world, and he says, whoever has this world's goods and sees his brother in need and doesn't give to him, the love of Christ is not him.

There, he's talking about the material world. But when he talks about us not loving the world, he then defines it. He says, because all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father.

And he says, there is a system of values out there. There is a system of morals and standards out there that appeal to the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life that have nothing to do with the standards of God.

And yes, the tree, it was good to the taste. It was pleasant to look upon it. Make one wise. But God had said, don't touch it. So there are two different value systems there. You know, it says that Moses understood that it was more value to him to suffer the reproach with God's people that he might inherit the riches of Christ than for him to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season.

The Bible doesn't say that sin is unpleasurable. The Bible says sin is pleasurable. Lust of the flesh. Lust of the eyes. Pride of life. Now, that's the way that Satan comes. But again, know this. When he comes to Jesus in the wilderness, turn these stones to bread.

He takes them up and shows them all of the kingdoms of the world and all the glory of them. And then he says, cast yourself down and give a grand demonstration of who you are. He uses the same appeal to Jesus, the Son of God.

And he doesn't say if you're the Son of God. He says since you're the Son of God. He knew who Jesus was. He had heard the Father at the baptism. He said this is my beloved Son in whom I'm well pleased.

And you have to know this in your heart that if Satan uses the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life against the Son of God, that's his best shot. He does not have any better ammunition in his arsenal than that.

And the answer that Jesus gives is remarkable and it keeps us safe. If you're the Son of God, since you're the Son of God, turn these stones to bread. Jesus said, and very important for us, it is written, this word is important, man, it is written, man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

What Jesus is saying is I don't have to be the divine Son of God with all my power to defeat you, Satan. All I have to be is a man submitted to the Holy Spirit and to the Word of God. That's our safety.

It will always be our safety. And again, remember, none of the apostles were with Jesus when that happened. They weren't called yet. It was immediately after his baptism. That means somewhere down the line, Matthew wrote it, but he wasn't there.

Luke wrote it, he wasn't there. Somewhere along the line, Jesus sat with them and said, let me tell you a story. Somewhere by a campfire at night, Jesus said, before I called any of you guys, I confronted the devil and the wilderness.

This is what he said to me, this is how I answered him. And if you want to stay on safe ground, that's why those things are written for us. If you want to stay on safe ground, you can use the same tools that I did, because I didn't confront him in all my divine power.

I just wanted to smoke him, but I didn't. I confronted him in your place and set the example for you so you can have victory. So Satan comes the same way. When she saw this, good to eat, pleasant to look upon, make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and did eat it and also gave it to her husband, and he did eat.

Sin, Shame, and Hiding from God

And the eyes of them both were open. Satan told the truth there. They knew that they were naked. That's a wonderful thing to discover when your eyes are open. They knew that they were naked. They sewed or they wove fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

Now again, man's first attempt at religion. The church of the holy fig tree. Now again, no wonder Jesus cursed the fig tree as He came to religious Israel and all they were with leaves. All they were was a covering and no fruit.

It was the same thing with Adam and Eve here. He comes to them. He sees the horror of the fall of man and what sin will bring in the world. And He sees them trying to cover themselves with fig leaves and what He had longed for in them.

A fellowship was not there, but He would provide that. They tried to cover themselves, and they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day. Now that's what they would do, is fellowship with Him.

Here comes the Lord. They hear His voice. And Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. Eve, you get behind that tree. I'll get behind this tree.

We'll hide from God. Let me tell you something. It doesn't work. I hate to tell you that. If you're eating fruit that you shouldn't eat today in your life, the Bible says all things are open naked before the one with whom we have to do.

You can't hide from God. You can't hide from Him. Not with fig leaves and not behind a tree. You can't hide from God. He will find you. And He can make you miserable right in the middle of a thousand people.

He can put the finger right on you. Now, let me tell you something. If you're His child, you get chastened. You get spanked. He does not punish you. He disciplines you. Again, I've got four kids. They do things wrong.

When they do something wrong, sometimes I can tell as soon as I come home. If my wife is at the door saying, Your son, and if he's mine, when I get home, something happened. I don't say to that kid, Okay, pack your suitcase.

Change your last name. You are out of here. No. That's my kid. I ain't giving him up. I love him. He did something wrong. If it calls for discipline, it calls for discipline. See, sometimes we think, you know, with God, that we blow it, and that's it.