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You're listening to Radio Luke's listen to Steve Matthews, this is episode 114 the title of this episode is time to repent of Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism.

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All right, so I'm This is a temp number two at this

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I Tried I was working on trying to do a stream through Through a telegram and I left the the app open on my computer and I started getting all of this

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This echo coming through. I thought just shut this thing down and start from scratch.

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So anyway, welcome to the program here I know it's been a little while since I've done this. It's hard to believe I think it's been about six weeks or so is the end of February Was the the last time that that we did this?

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and Well, there's been some interesting things happen since then. I think that I think the gold price has gone up about $300 since that time

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Some of that is is perhaps in response to Possible inflation price inflation coming and certainly

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Monetary inflation I make a distinction between price inflation and monetary inflation Usually what people when they talk about inflation they mean price inflation, you know

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They go to the grocery store and they see you know Milk and bread has gone up in price or they go to the gas station and they see that you're paying a lot for Gasoline which we are

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I filled up today and it cost me a good chunk of change to do that But really inflation properly speaking is is money printing is it is is excess money printing

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That that is the certainly the Austrian schools definition of it, I think that's a sound definition

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And and really that's something that's the definitions you found in dictionaries in the past But now they've updated it to to make it seem like it's it's a it's price inflation

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You know that that inflation is rising prices well inflation is the increase in the supply of money over and above the increase in the output of the economy and What happens when you do that is you devalue the existing?

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Money that you have and prices go up. So rising prices are the result of money printing that's already taken place that's the proper definition of Of inflation, but that's not the definition that's usually used by the media and and there's a reason for that Of course, they don't want you to think about all the money that the central bank

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Is is creating and using to buy government debt But that's a whole another thing this this where we're not gonna want to get off on a discussion about central banking and the evil of central banking the wickedness of it and it

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That's certainly something that needs to be repented of but we're gonna talk about repenting to something else today and that is dispensationalism and Christian Zionism and and the reason for my my choice in talking about it here today is

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Is the this is I'm doing this. This is Saturday April the 13th and As you may know if you follow the news here today, there's been

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Iran has counter -attacked Israel. They sent all these drones and missiles or whatever and And this was in response to an

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Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy in Damascus and Anyway, there's a there's an awful lot of commentary out there on on On Twitter or where or elsewhere?

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I usually look at Twitter. I like Twitter a lot as far as Just Going for news is a you know, it's it's it's a relatively free speech platform now

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Now that the Elon Musk has taken that over and as a result You can actually get some

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Some interesting opinions things that you can't get in some other Mainstream social media platforms

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Just to take for example, here's here are some comments and these are just some sample comments I'm just gonna read three of them here

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One of them is this from this guy named Joe Walsh. He's a fairly well -known political activist

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I believe he used to be a Republican now He I think he calls he's a Democrat, but he says an attack on Israel is an attack on America Well, no, it's it's not an attack on Israel's an attack on Israel Israel and America are not the same country

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Yeah, that's a hard thing for some people to understand but they they actually are different countries and and I know that the

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Joe Walsh Apparently is confused on this fairly basic issue There's another guy here by the name of Jake Sherman and he says an appending attack

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Raises questions about the urgency of house GOP leadership will feel to move in is an Israel aid bill

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They tried an Israel bill with domestic spending offsets and an Israel bill without offsets on suspension

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Can they get an Israel aid bill through rules and on the floor for a simple majority vote? So apparently this

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Jake Sherman thinks that that's a really important thing to do and someone replied to him He said this gentleman by the name of Matt Stoller.

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He said how about no aid to Israel Netanyahu attacked Iran? How is this our problem?

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very good questions Everyone in the foreign policy community is taking crazy pills.

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Yes. I agree with Matt Stoller The you know Israel I Was it on April 1st?

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I think it was April 1st. They they bombed the the the

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Iranian embassy in Damascus Syria and Killed some some Iranian.

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I think high -ranking military officials with that strike And if you know anything about about the rules of war international war you do not bomb embassies

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You don't do that, you know those and the embassy is considered not only is it considered to be sovereign territory of the nation of the the nation who holds that embassy in this case it was the

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Iranian embassy and in Damascus in in Syria But the rules of war prohibit attacking embassies, but Israel went ahead and did it anyway because I guess apparently the rules of war don't apply to Israel and And now, you know

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Iran wants to to counter -strike and apparently they've done so here this evening

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How effective it was I don't know. But anyway, they they did launch these attacks and everybody's losing their mind

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Here's a this is a comment from Senator Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee Iran has begun launching drone strikes in Israel.

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We must move quickly and launch aggressive retaliatory strikes in Iran So so Israel blows up the

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Iranian Embassy, which they shouldn't have done Iranian counter -attacks And somehow this is our problem and the US needs to get involved

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Directly in a war in the Middle East and go attack Iran See Israel has been working for decades to get this country to to attack

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Iran I mean, they can't wait to make that happen. Now, of course Iran is a client state of Russia and also

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I believe believe China as well and If we were to do that,

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I think there's a very good chance you'd be looking at World War three This is just stupid.

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We should not be involved in this stuff at all, but we are involved in it as Americans and substantially because of both

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Jewish and evangelical Zionists Now you've got the

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Jewish Zionist and then you've got Christian Zionist and the Christian Zionist base their their

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Christian Zionism it derives from their dispensationalism

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Which is some very odd stuff and it got me to thinking about An essay that was written by John Robbins and this goes back

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To I think he first wrote this I want to say in Published it in 2006.

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So this is going back 18 years. Oh almost 20 years. That's hard to believe. It's been that long

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I want to talk a little bit about that here tonight. In fact, let's let's take a look at the

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See if I can do a do a screen share here And Here we go, okay, this is

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This is John Robbins essay, it's a Trinity Reviews published in as I said in 2006

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I want to read a section of this here from you that deals with both

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Romanism and Islam and in Judaism, I Want to read this I'm gonna read it.

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There's actually a few paragraphs here I want to read them in full and then we can talk a little bit about them. This is a somewhat lengthy section

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So let's go here and this is quote The result of two centuries of irrationalism is that at the beginning of the 21st century

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We are faced not with a hopeful a hopeful hopeful prospect But with an even more dismal prospect than our great -grandfathers faced a hundred years ago

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The last hundred years has seen the resurgence of medieval Romanism the emergence of Romanist zealot organizations such as Opus Dei Medieval Romanism is not just confined to the

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Roman Catholic Church state and its thousands of educational institutions But has gained many adherents among nominal

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Protestants as well the prolific authors Norman Geisler and RC Sproul and many lesser -known

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Protestant theologians and Philosophers as well are disciples of the official philosopher of the Roman Church state

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Thomas Aquinas their influences misled most Protestants away from the biblical and reformed view of philosophy and apologetics and into a compromise with Rome medieval

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Islam now usually called fundamentalist Islam and Medieval Judaism with the establishment of the modern state of Israel in 1948 are on the rise as well all three religions

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Romanism Islam and Judaism are false militant and violent devout members of each group hate oppose and plot against members of the other two, but today the date is 2006 and not ten 1006 and the true believers of each of these medieval religions have access to nuclear biological chemical and electromagnetic weapons

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Borrowing dramatic divine intervention such as a new reformation or the second coming of Christ the wars of the 21st century will be religious wars

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They will be worse than the secular wars of the 20th century The three principal protagonist will be the three medieval religions that have warred with each other for centuries already the battles have begun

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It is important to realize that the Christian has no dog in this fight Neither Romanism nor Judaism or Islam is

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Christianity Yet many who profess to be Christian support either Judaism or Romanism the so -called

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Christian right in the United States influenced by Romanism Dispensationalism and reconstructionism has been a supporter of Israel Judaism in Rome for decades

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The principal figures in the American conservative movement have been Romanist. They're the source of funds have largely been

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Protestant The principal figures of the so -called neo -conservatives neocons or Jews the

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US government in violation of the US Constitution has taken tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars from American taxpayers and Given them to the government of Israel over the past 50 years

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We have fought wars and spent billions trying to prop up various Roman Catholic dictatorships

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More recently the US government has started sending money taken by force from the American people to Arab and Muslim nations as well

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The conservative movement in the United States has abandoned the American and biblical foreign policy a strategic independence pursued by our governments in 1776 for a policy of globalist intervention has angered many foreign nations and peoples most recently the

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Muslims end quote Okay, so, you know there was a there actually were were quite a few interesting ideas in there and and I think one of them is the fact that John Robbins lumped together

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Romanism Judaism and Islam and I think that would surprise a lot of people today, right? Because you know, we

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I think most American Evangelicals would look at something like would look at these three religions and say well, well

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Islam is our enemy But but Romanism, you know, why why the Pope is our brother in Christ and in in in Jews Well, I mean they're they're pretty much just just Christians just like we are and we we have an obligation and then the

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Bible tells us that we absolutely have to go support Israel and if you don't support Israel then then you're a bad person and and you're not doing the will of God That is is the the thought of many people who who are

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Christians and and you know I want to say something here at the outset. I Have known people

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I do know people now who? Are dispensationalists who

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I don't know if they would call themselves Christian Zionists or not maybe maybe they would maybe they wouldn't but they they certainly have some beliefs that are along the lines of Christian Zionism and And I believe they're brothers in Christ I think these people are

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Christians, but I do think that they are are making an error in their their support of Dispensationalism and in Christian Zionism, I think they're making a a substantial mistake and in in some ways

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I you know, they You know, we're all responsible for God for the things we believe in the things we say but I will also say this

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I think that the The Protestant Church in the 20th and 21st centuries has substantially failed to properly instruct

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The members its members on eschatology we tend to act as as Protestants if there's no such thing as a as Protestant eschatology and that that is is nonsense.

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I I remember when I was a student at For a brief period of time at Knox Theological Seminary in Fort Lauderdale, Florida If you know anything about Knox, it is it was founded by D.

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James Kennedy It's literally right across the street the building where Knox was is housed I assume it still is is literally right across the street from from the from his church and from Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and It was and probably still is

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Actually reports to the session of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. Well the

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I Kind of lost track of what I was gonna say there But but anyway, what what oh,

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I know what I was gonna say when I was a student there at Knox I attended a Sunday service Sunday morning service at Coral Ridge I remember they had a guest speaker one

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Sunday and he was a missionary. He was an older gentleman I don't recall his name right now, but I remember when he was preaching his sermon

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At one point he said he exclaimed I have no idea who Antichrist is

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I have no idea and I thought well, you know that that's an amazing thing because Presbyterians used to have a very clear idea of who

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Antichrist is and we've talked about that many times here on this program And also

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I've written about it in my blog. We talked about Antichrist. It's the Pope of Rome And maybe even more broadly the the system of Roman Catholicism That's headed by the

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Pope of Rome You know Popery in the Church of Rome, you know, what is it there's a great quote out there

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I don't Somewhat paraphrase this but it's from Charles Spurgeon. He says, you know, he talks about you know the identity of Antichrist and he says if it be not

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Popery in the Church of Rome, there's I can't say this but but there's nothing else that answers to it or something to that effect.

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Anyway, I Should have had that quote pulled up, but I don't but but you get the idea

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I mean Charles Spurgeon was very adamant about who Antichrist is and he was right and in his his his view on this was not some

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Wackadoo crazy way out thing. That was just standard Protestant thinking it goes all the way back to To the

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Protestant Reformation and really the identity of the Pope is Antichrist precedes the Protestant Reformation. I've read that Now John Wycliffe Referred to the

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Pope as Antichrist and John Wycliffe was a Roman Catholic priest. He's calling his boss Antichrist So that probably didn't go over real well with the with the

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Pope and I guess that's why after Wycliffe died They they dug up his body and and burned it.

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I Think was like 75 years after he died. They put him on trial and they he dug up his body and burned it

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They were still so so angry at him because of some of the things he taught and and maybe that was one of the reasons

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They did not you know, that wasn't the only doctrine they hated about him But you know John Wycliffe was was right about that In fact,

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I've even seen some references that talk about the the Pope as Antichrist going back Centuries even before John Wycliffe, so I don't know that that was an original idea

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With with Wycliffe, but I mean if you go back to the Magisterial Reformers, you know Go back to Luther go back to Calvin go back to any of the people out of that that 16th century

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They all knew that the Pope was the Antichrist They all knew that that was written into the

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Westminster Confession of Faith You know, there was no other head of the church But the Lord Jesus Christ nor can the

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Pope of Rome in any sense behead thereof But is that Antichrist the man of sin and son of perdition?

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Exalt himself exalteth himself in the church against Christ and all that is called God That's a very clearly taught and that was edited out that that whole statement about Antichrist man

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It's in son of perdition. That was all edited out with the new edition of the Westminster Confession in 1903 and so for a hundred over a hundred and twenty years now the

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Presbyterian Church and Likewise really the the entire Protestant Church has been flying blind when it comes the identity of Antichrist All of this stuff going on in the southern border this massive invasion that we're having

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Ten million people or more. I I don't know the exact numbers But this this huge Disaster that's taking place here in the

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United States. It's taking place in Europe. This is the work of Antichrist This is there.

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There's even a word for it There's a term for for this type of thing. It's called irredentism

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It is a Jesuit tactic for flooding a nation with foreigners in order to to take it over And that's what's going on right now

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This is this is an irredentist Roman Catholic policy It's being implemented by a

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Jesuit link president of the United States Joe Biden That's what's going on and you have to understand that but nobody and I mean almost nobody talks about this,

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I mean there's a lot of People who write and comment on immigration And in they have some good things to say

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I'm not saying their work is is of no value because I've learned from some of these people have learned some things many things

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But they missed the big point. They don't understand who is doing it. This is

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Antichrist This is the work of Antichrist when you see these videos of all these people pouring in the United States of America and being

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Showered with fabulous cash and prizes. This is the work of Antichrist This is the work of the papal

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Antichrist and His his lackey that we have in the White House Joe Biden That's what's going on and it is imperative that Christians come to understand who's doing this stuff to them and Why they're doing it, you know

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Rome is an openly globalist organization. Rome is the premier globalist organization in the world and They are pushing this stuff for the benefit of Rome and to bring about the world government that Rome keeps trying to push and it has repeatedly called for But anyway,

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I'm kind of going off on the tangent there in Rome I didn't want to talk about that We're gonna talk about dispensationalism, right? So let me get back on topic here a little bit

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So John Robbins, you know, he lumps together Romanism Islam and Judaism, you know And I think a lot of people would be shocked.

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Like I said, you know there there was an article that appeared in Christianity today I think back in 2015 when

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Pope Francis came to the United States It was titled from Antichrist to brother in Christ and and that's how many

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Leading evangelicals many leading Protestants view the Pope they view him now as a brother in Christ Instead of what he truly is which is

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Antichrist Then there's there's Judaism and and there are many many

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Christians who I think they Here's a a simple truth

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Jews are not Christians Christians and Jews are not the that's not the same religion. There is no such thing as Judeo -christianity

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As Judaism and as Christianity, there's not a Judeo -christianity There's not you hear about Judeo -christian values and these sort of things.

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That's that is that is a lie Judaism and as Christianity, there's separate religions

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Jews are not Christians Christians are not Jews You know and I say these things and I think that you know, somebody might suppose well, you know, what do you hate

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Roman Catholics? You you hate Muslims you hate Jews. Well, no, I I don't but I do disagree with them

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You know, these are not biblical faiths they are not Christian faiths they do not Accept and teach the doctrine of Christ taught

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And the people that are in those systems they need to repent and they need to come to faith in Christ Jesus But there's this whole movement within Evangelicalism within Protestantism Of Christian Zionism and there are many people who sincerely believe that We that as Christians we have an obligation to support

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Israel Unquestionably, I Mean whatever, you know in supporting

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Israel means doing whatever BB Netanyahu says you have to do It's almost as if you know when he gets up and speaks.

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It's like the prop the voice of the Prophet Elijah Well, that's nonsense The American public owes does not know

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Israel so much as a single dime And this is something that needs to be repented of Fine.

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Let me continue here with This is John Robbins. I'm going to continue reading his his article the religious wars of the 20th century.

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This is another paragraph I'm gonna quote I'm just gonna read the paragraph in full quote because Christianity is neither

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Romanism nor Judaism nor Islam There is no need for the United States Historically if not currently

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Christian nation to be involved in religious wars of the 21st century But because of the influence of American citizens and non -citizens who are

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Jews Catholics and dispensational Evangelicals we are already involved in fact because of our foreign policy of interventionism developed in the 20th century and Because of our more recent policy of preemptive war the

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United States has become the primary target of militant Muslims worldwide and not of Muslims only

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Agents of both Israel and Rome are active in the United States both gathering intelligence and influencing policy

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The US government is manipulated by foreign interests both Israel and the Vatican see the

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United States as their proxy in this religious war and quote And this is one of the major things that that I think so many people miss is the massive amount of lobbying and spying

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That is done by the Israel lobby There's an organization called

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AIPAC AIPAC the American Israel Political Action Committee and they give massive amounts of money to politicians

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And then these politicians go out and say things like we must support Israel No matter what

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You know, they are our greatest ally, you know, they say things like this I mean, this is a very common type of rhetoric to hear well, you know again when they talk about supporting

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Israel They're talking about giving billions of dollars of US taxpayer money to Israel or weapons or political support

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There was news reports tonight again, you know, this is all just happening. So sometimes you get reports that aren't right

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But that American forces were involved in shooting down some of these drones or missiles or whatever they were coming from Iran Now at least the

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United States wasn't going and attacking Iran, but there are a lot of people that are out there calling for this There are many people out there

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I mean there's you guys say go out there to Twitter and just look through some things and you can find all kinds of people

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Just out there just spitting fire and ready to ready to you know, go have a go at Iran Because you know, they they fired some drones at Israel, well, you know what that is not our fight

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We shouldn't be involved in this, you know as John Robbins said because Christianity is neither Romanism or Judaism or Islam There is no need for the

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United States and historically if not currently Christian nation to be involved in the religious wars of the 21st century

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We don't have to be involved in this stuff Don't have to be involved in it

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There's no morally compelling case for us to be involved in it, you know One of the really weird things and I I really need to to study this more myself

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And and I you know this I've been so focused that you know It's funny you get busy in life and there's all this stuff that you want to study and learn and in that and and I really do need to study and and write more on on Dispensationalism from a critical standpoint

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I have not probably done as much with that as I should have and I that's something Lord willing

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I hope to be able to do more more of and But but I mean one of the things that I have heard and you know, perhaps someone can correct me if this is wrong

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But what I understand is is that with a dispensationalist, you know, they they believe that we need to build the third temple

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So there's a lot of Christians that are pushing, you know for you know to build this third temple in this third temple in Jerusalem and when that happens, then antichrist will appear and and I guess at that point

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And again, I could be wrong about this But I think at that point then the the church is you know believers are raptured out

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Well, you know There's a lot of problems with that and one of those is the fact that antichrist is here right now

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You don't need to build a third temple in Jerusalem for that antichrist is sitting there He's the guy with a funny hat in Rome and his work is being done right in front of your face

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But unfortunately Christians have been trained not to see it so I mean you can have

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Rome sitting here destroying the United States of America right in front of our face and people say I don't see any antichrist

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Why antichrist is gonna come in the future? Nonsense. Antichrist is here and he's doing his work

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Right in front of us and it's not just the immigration either. But that's that's probably the most visible most obvious act active antichrist

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So anyway, that's just a There's a lot more that can be said about this and I I need to I say

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I need to do more study on my own about some things like this to Specific specifically

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Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism, but this is something to be repentant of it's not something to be be encouraged

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I'm gonna take a look here. Maybe while let's see what what I can find here Let's stop sharing that screen and go back on on X here and There's an organization out there.

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It's called Christians United for Israel It's run by John Hagee who's a pastor,

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I believe he is in San Antonio, Texas and if you go on Go on the this is the

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Twitter feed. I still call it Twitter. It's X I know it's X but you know,

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I think Elon Musk has done some really good things with it, but I wish he kept Twitter I still don't like the whole

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X thing. But anyway Let's see what what Kufi see you fi

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Christians United for Israel has to say well, they say welcome to the largest pro -israel organization in America let's see the

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See you fi action funds Fund advocates for strong u .s. Israel relationship stands up to anti -semitism and supports

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Israel's right to self -determination. Well anti -semitism, you know, that's a that's a really loaded term there and It really

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I Think very often. I mean anti -semitism to me would just be the irrational hatred of Jews You hate somebody who's

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Jewish because just because that person's Jewish But usually it seems like more and more of the way that term is used.

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It's basically just disagreeing with a Jewish person or Not sufficiently supporting

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Israel Or not wanting to say destroy your Constitution in order to to make various Jewish groups happy You know, there's been some of that stuff going on I I wrote a piece about that a few weeks ago on on my blog about a law that was passed in in South Dakota that makes, you know that adopts a

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A Definition of a very specific definition of of anti -semitism and you know

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Anyway it creates It is an attempt and in factly it is a an attack on the

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First Amendment of our Constitution And I have a big problem with that You know, what happens is there are some people who are pro -israel who get upset when people demonstrate against Israel.

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Well People have a right to demonstrate and speak out against Israel People have that right now

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You know my purpose here is not even to to get into saying whether those people are right or wrong

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They have a right to speak and if someone disagrees with the policy of the Israeli government as an

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American We're in the United States of America. They have a they have a right to publicly say we disagree with that They have a right to go out and demonstrate against it peacefully.

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You can't destroy property. You can't attack people You can't threaten people but you can

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You you do have a right to speak out against that and in Texas Governor Greg Abbott just signed some some executive order that basically prohibits

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Cracks down on so -called anti -semitism on campuses. Well, you know again anti -semitism is simply people in some cases just Demonstrating against the government of Israel.

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Well People have a right to do that. And again, I'm not here at this point to To say whether they're right in in opposing

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These things or they're not right and oppose them But I do defend their right to speak out against the policies of the government of Israel that is covered under the

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First Amendment our right to free speech as Americans and Yet you have the these organizations and these are mostly from what

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I can tell Jewish Zionist Organizations that push these kinds of laws and of course organizations like CUFI Christians United for Israel.

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They also support this stuff So anyway, that's

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Christians United for Israel. And here's John Hagee Israel's at war join us in the fight No, we don't need to be part of that fight and let's see

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You know the breathlessly report red alert sign sound in northern Israel And you can scroll through here and I would encourage you to go see some of these things for yourself

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You know Christians United for Israel is not the only Christian Christian Dispensationalist Christian Zionist organization, but they are the biggest and they are the best known and Again, you know, this is not something that Christians should be proud of.

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This is something that should be repented of You know, you've got these organizations that are essentially working for a foreign government

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And they're doing so on the basis of very bad theology, you know again, you know They they they very much want to see that third temple rebuilt, you know

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There's these stories in the paper about you know, the red heifer I think it's some I think it's referenced to this in Deuteronomy or something and they they need to have these red heifers and then

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They need to be sacrificed on an altar And again, I I'm a little vague on some of that and I apologize.

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I need to do some studying on that Maybe I'll do it this week here and and talk a little bit more detail next week

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But a lot of these red heifers are actually being raised deliberately in Texas and then they're being shipped over to Israel and It's the the whole thing is just very bizarre and strange and these red heifers

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I mean apparently these are these are being pushed by these Christian Zionists I don't know if they're being raised by Christian Zionists or not.

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Maybe they are I Don't know for sure But Texas is kind of a hotbed of of Christian Zionism I guess maybe some of that has to do with Dallas Theological Seminary, you know

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The big Dispensationalists and and again, you know, I I know that some of these things that I've talked about here probably would offend

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People who who are Christians to hear this And and I would just appeal to you.

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I I would just say, you know, if you're somebody that gets upset when someone criticizes

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Christian Zionism, you know, I I would would encourage you to To think twice about about that and maybe stop and rethink your position but You know as far as arguing, you know

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You're getting into the details of some of this stuff. I need to do some additional study on my own and I admit that But I know

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I can say this that the the dispensationalism that is the majority report in American Evangelicalism today is not biblically sound

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And I would encourage you to go study, you know the the eschatology of of the

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Reformers Probably the easiest way to do that get out I say go look up a copy of the the old version of the

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Westminster Confession And find that passage there that talks about the talks about Antichrist Antichrist, you know is the office of the papacy

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Madison son of perdition. He's the Antichrist. The Antichrist is here with us right now

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You have to know that And if you don't know that then you're missing a big chunk

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You do not understand a big chunk of what's going on in the world today Spend all your time focusing on Israel and in your you're you're missing the act the the activities of Antichrist Going on right in front of your face

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So anyway, just a short video here tonight I hope this was was somewhat helpful and I hope to to see you again