Should Christians Go to College?

I think the parents who understand these problems are the ones who are homeschooling their kids right now, and they're making Choice, you know either making they're making those decisions already and those are the audience that will hear this kind of thing.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, because they've largely already embraced it, but I mean It's just such a deception man. Like it's just I mean in just look at the numbers I mean, we're just we're just Christians are just breeding cows for the pagans at this point.

We've been that way for years and there's no sign that it's like there's very few little signs that anything's changing, you know, maybe with the CRT stuff and You know the Trump stuff and there's been a dramatic rise in homeschooling and there's some people who get it.

But then those are those are the ones that will listen, you know, and the other ones already know this but then you know the rest of them they. They're too invested in it man. They're too invested.

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Why College Has Become the Default Path

Welcome to Bible bash where we aim to equip the Saints for the works of ministry by answering the questions. You're not allowed to ask where your host Harrison Kerrigan pastor Tim mullet and today will answer the age-old question Should Christians go to college now?

This is this is you know, one of those questions that essentially affects at probably at this point just about every single Kid coming out of high school at least in America, you know, there's always the question of hey, where are you gonna go to school?

After you graduate high school almost as if you know It's a given that you're going to go to college no matter what and you know, so obviously college has become a pretty significant part of our society in general and Having a degree certainly affects the way that many people will view you overall.

But then obviously it seems more and more as the years go on that there's Glaring issues coming, you know when coming from universities in general and the graduates that they produce. Which is why we're covering this episode.

So Tim, why don't why don't we just start off with addressing? You know the topic the topic question itself. What is your response? Should should Christians go to college.

Yeah, I don't a.

Very a very clear and defined, you know, well-spoken answer if you ever gave one. So, okay, you didn't give a yes, but you didn't say no either. So fill us in a little more. Give us a little more to work with here.

There's a lot of different directions I mean, there's a lot of different directions that you can go with this kind of question in general and It's one of those things where I don't know If the normal intuition is still the same as what it was when it for me growing up and maybe for you growing up.

And that there's an automatic expectation that you're gonna Go to college. So I mean at this point, I mean, there's a variety of things that are conspiring to. Cause people to rethink the wisdom of going to college in general I mean Christians have always had reactions to college meaning, you know, like the Christian parent.

It's gonna be very concerned about sending there should be very concerned, you know, unfortunately I don't think we've been nearly as concerned enough, but there is a type of Christian parent who has been concerned for You know Christian reasons.

Related to the fact that I mean yes for the vast majority of people like the college experience. What is the college experience except for an experience where you have? Your kids who you know, you're supposed to have some kind of concern for their soul.

You're sending them basically to be enculturated into worldliness and teaching them the fine art of you know, beer pong and Fornication and everything else and so I mean for many people like this, you know Blessed, you know sacred college experience simply reduces to a time where you have a bunch of young hormone-filled people who are supposed to be adults who are delaying adulthood in order to basically socialize and hang out and You know participate in a bunch of vices and so certainly like the concerns that Christians have have always been along those ends.

Now, I think what many people particularly, you know, those of my generation. We we thought that those were the extent of the concerns, right? So my concern for moral purity in that way and really I mean what what's happened like demonstrably.

What happened is the Christians are having the kids there, you know the. You know, the left is hostile to kids. They don't want any more kids, right? Like they're not having them near the rate as Christians have but basically Christians have been breeding cows for the pagans.

So we take our kids that we raise in a Christian home we send them off to be brainwashed by these pagans turned into social justice warriors and Basically twice a child of hell as ourself. And so what we've done is we've handed them over to the pagans to brainwash them.

Into hating basically everything that we stand for and everything that we believe in, you know. And I think you know, there's a concern on the right now that we basically. They've been taught the wrong political beliefs, which I mean, you know the most of the beliefs on the right.

Well way more on the right and then on the left seemed to line up with the biblical worldview. So like so essentially I mean you have concerns about the morality of them. I've always been there and now one of the things that's happened is like we've lost an entire generation of kids.

You know they erase them in church and then they don't darken the doors of the church after they go to college because they've been brainwashed into paganism and brainwashed into these morally reprehensible Categories and so both of those things are true at the same time, but then.

Student Debt, Predatory Costs, and the Limits of College Degrees

There's also another component to this. Okay, so okay. There's another layer to the onion. There's actually two more layers. Yeah.

That are coming to my mind right now. So like another component to the to this the whole discussion is now well What you have as college is so expensive and you have kids who are coming out of college with you know Their fine arts degree or something like that that has no functional use whatsoever or their Bachelor of Arts degree.

With no like career direction whatsoever. They're coming out of school with you know, $100 ,000 worth of dad. Pursuing career like some undefined career, right? Like so college was advertised to be the stepping stone to everything in their life.

And it's like you can go be a plumber and make more money or you know Bartender and make more money than the average college student coming out of college with $100 ,000 worth of debt. Kind of thing with all these loans that have you know 15 interest rate and whatever else like these crazy loans at predatory loans in that way.

And so now you have the student loan discussion added on to this like is this a good investment anymore either, right? Right. So is it and then in the the least popular? thing of it all is the reality that you know, a lot of people they just intellectually Aren't capable of going to college.

Okay. Mm-hmm. So like meaning like if There's a lot of people who don't have the IQ to go to college and to excel at college. And so what's what we've been taught is we thought that everyone's the same.

So we basically shoved egalitarianism down everyone's throat. We're all the same and we're refused to acknowledge that. You know, not everyone is intelligent. If everyone is intelligent, then no one is intelligent intelligent means nothing.

It's just a Like we think it's we think it's an insult to say hey, you know what you're pretty average, right? I Think about that logically like it's an insult to tell someone they're average, but then by you know Think about your standard bell curve distribution of any kind of character trait.

You're talking about intelligence where you're talking about height. Whether you're talking about looks where you're talking about income everyone like the vast majority of people are average, right? Right?

Yeah but what we tell people is oh you're just so smart and you're just so this and you're so that and what what we mean. Like you're normal. But then the issue is not everyone's normal, right so not everyone's normal and So a lot of people they aren't capable.

I mean like there's you know There's there's many people in our country that instead of going to college and getting an education only to fail out. Or you know and this is particularly happening as it relates to the diversity hires and everything else.

We're telling everyone that hey you deserve a college education and you can excel and you can achieve just give you the opportunities and everything Else you put them in the opportunities. They they fail out, you know, it's like hey, you know what?

They they need to be working construction or something. They don't need to go into college like that's not for them. And so then like that's just another element of this discussion to where. There's been this push that everyone just deserves this college education.

That doesn't have to actually deliver on anything that it's promising and all that it's functionally doing is just creating a bunch of Rabid foaming at the mouth social justice warriors who hate God who hate everything that you know We stand for and and so then like you put all those things in a pot and you say hey.

Is this really what we need to be encouraging people to do? And so I mean, I think you're looking at the problem more directly. I mean, I I think college. There's like you if you get a very specialized degree in college it can do you some good.

Okay, okay, if you get an engineering degree if you get a medical degree you know if you get Particularly some of the things that are related to skills, you know like that I mean, I think that college can can do good in those kind of areas, but then just your generic, you know, be a kind of General education degree, you know general business degree, you know this kind of stuff.

I mean you just you're Shooting yourself in the foot man, you know and in what you're gonna get is you're gonna get a lot of headaches you're gonna basically be brainwashed by the pagans and Tempted in every way imaginable and then you know.

You might not even be capable of it intellectually to even do well in it. And I think a lot of people would do a lot better just to learn a trade for sure.

Why College Is Sold as the Only Option

So why why has college been presented as the only option for so long. There's a lot of money in it, man. You know, it's funny you mentioned it's funny you mentioned that I actually there was a tick-tock going around I Don't know if it was last week or two weeks ago I'm not sure exactly when it was making the rounds but it was of this woman who was driving to her job as a sushi server and She was basically, you know complaining because she had gotten a degree in business Marketing or something like that and you know, she was saying hey essentially it boiled down to hey.

So I got into this You know $80 ,000 worth of debt to get to get my degree that everyone was telling me I needed to get and She can't find any jobs you know that will that will pay that will pay her and You know essentially enable her to pay, you know.

Also, you know be able to live and also pay back the debt that she owes for getting the degree to begin with you know and and I think there there is a lot to really glean from that video and now now now that I'm thinking about it I really do wish I had gotten you to watch it but um, you know, you have that you have the one side where You're listening to everything that she's saying and you're thinking like yeah that this seems like a pretty raw deal, you know.

Hey get $80 ,000 worth of debt to have this degree. Just so you can find exactly zero jobs that will pay you any sort of significant Wage where you're able to live and also pay back this debt that you've now incurred, right?

So so there's that angle that's like the hey Yeah, this is this seems extremely predatory and a lot especially when you start thinking about like hey a lot. You know a lot of these professors You have to get their textbook and they're also the ones who wrote it, you know.

So they're making money not just from teaching the class, but they're essentially forcing people to buy their work. Otherwise they fail, you know, and so you and you know, you're being charged absorbent rates for where you live, you know, if you live in dorms and meal plans and Parking spaces and just everything, you know, it's it's incredibly expensive on the other end of things.

You know you have this girl in the video Who's complaining about everything and then she's she's coming along and she's saying hey, you know all of the jobs That pay all of the jobs That relate to my degree the ones that are paying, you know, a hundred fifty thousand two hundred thousand.

You need X amount of years of experience and then she gets really frustrated and she starts screaming out. You know that the college degree Was the experience right? And so it seems like It seems like you have these people who are essentially I don't know if it's necessarily the colleges that are doing this but they're essentially teaching someone is coming along and you know giving people the expectation that the degree that they're getting is Like this magic Fix it all, you know speed up the process Thing that'll somehow instantly give you like, you know I don't know 15 years of experience or something when in reality you have no experience From the degree you have knowledge you do not have.

Experience when those are generally different things as general knowledge. I mean, I I think in general you I mean you obviously have The I mean it isn't just colleges that are billing themselves as an all-purpose like answer to life You know and career and everything else.

I mean, that's just stuff that every teacher is telling you From the moment you're in elementary school until you graduate, right? Right, I mean that's the path and then I'm in a lot of that is like these are government schools that are Funded by government agencies and everything else.

So like these there's a lot of money in this kind of thing and I mean, I think it used to be that you know companies would think that college at the very least it provided a Test to see what kind of character and capacity a person has even if it didn't necessarily directly prepare you right for.

It's like a filter a little bit a filter to see who.

You know had the hard work and perseverance necessary to you know Get through the end of it and that would be saying something about their Constitution that make up their character. So that I Mean, I think for many years it functioned along those lines I mean to the extent it was your university was actually more in line with the biblical worldview than that could be more of a Thing in the sense of you're getting a worldview at a university but then right now what's happening is you're getting this alien hostile godless worldview that It's not going to benefit you in any way and basically just going to turn you into a worthless person who destroys society.

Right a terrorist in the making like a BLM Rally supporter, you know Antifa kind of so like the issue is that like it's not doing. It's not even doing that job anymore of forming a worldview it's just giving you the worldview of Satan at this point and I mean something that I didn't even mention at that point mentioned before as.

Women, Marriage, and Delaying Adulthood

Another aspect to the discussion is how ladies relate to this topic meaning, you know like you have a lady getting in $80 ,000 worth of debt that she's not gonna be able to pay back on her own and Then basically just like the only way she's gonna pay back This amount of money is if she puts off having kids until she's like in her early, you know 30s or something like that by the time she can finally pay for all this and you know There's dramatic societal consequences along those lines, too.

And there's questions to be asked, you know. As it relates to even like gender differences like along those lines. It is best for society. Is it best for society to have men and women who are delaying adulthood for years and years?

Particularly women who you know naturally they're not gonna want to work the hour week jobs in order to pay off these loans and get ahead and They're gonna want to have kids and settle down and that's just what they want to do.

Anyways, you know but then they're being told that like they have to be a career woman and put your kids in daycare because You know raising the next generation is beneath you somehow or something else.

And so I mean that yeah some somehow it's way better to you know. Sell your time to some boss who's just gonna buy, you know, tell you exactly what to do all the time anyway. Instead of like instead of you know.

A husband who loves you and and cares about you and gives his entire life to provide and protect and lead you. You know seems like a fair trade.

Yeah, I mean, you know him him working like a slave for the entirety of his life, you know. That would be impressive for him to you know, even ask you to do one thing.

You don't want to do on your own. But then you'll listen to a boss all day long tell you and that's totally normal and exactly what you should. Desire. And it's freeing and liberating and liberating and all that all that, you know.

Junk garbage.

College as Worldview Formation and Social Engineering

Yeah, I think yeah, I mean what you have right now is you have a situation where? You know college is just destructive to your character. It's destructive to your worldview. It's giving you a you know, godless worldview that's.

You know basically turning you into a domestic terrorist. That's what it's doing, you know, so but then so and then you know, it's overpriced and you're getting robbed. I mean, I have some sympathy for all that.

But then I I Don't know. I mean I there is a part of me that's like hey, I you know, you can't possibly be that stupid. Can you? Right. Meaning. You know it took a lot of student loans and everything else to go to Bible College and seminary and do all do all that and.

But I always knew that I knew what I was doing, you know. Right. I knew that I was getting in a bunch of debt. That was gonna be very very difficult to pay back and I knew that it wasn't a good plan. You know, so like the kind of person who just believes it all and just like oh, yeah I'm gonna get into all this debt and it's just gonna be easy.

It's gonna be gone overnight and because I'm just gonna be able to find a job right after outs. It's like I just don't. Are you really that naive? Now whether or not you should you know I I think the best thing people can do to be the void all student loans at all cost and you know a lot of what's happening is that you have people who we're just filled with covetousness and yeah, then like the covetousness is to feel rerun on so then it's like This idea that everyone deserves a college degree and everyone deserves the same thing it's like hey, we're not all made for a college degree and you know what some people have.

Parents who made better decisions in life and can do more for them. And if your parents didn't do that. You shouldn't finance at all and you shouldn't like that isn't the way that these things work, you know.

And so then like you don't deserve everything that everyone else's has gotten and there's a lot of jobs that may be beneath your dignity but which are good jobs that could provide you an income and You know set you up better for the future and what we need I mean we need a lot more people who are looking into trades and useful skills at this point and We need a lot less ladies who are getting in $80 ,000 with the debt to go to school.

Yeah for for you know art history degrees and yeah for these stupid degrees that aren't doing anything just you know.

Basically getting these degrees so they can you know run HR department which solely exist in order to manage their interpersonal conflicts with each other, you know, right? Like that's it's like oh, come on, you know, like.

Do something actually useful.

Advice for Christians Considering College

So, so what would you what would you tell you know Young Christians who are about to graduate high school soon, you know Christian parents whose children are about to graduate high school soon. They're gonna have to make the decision.

Hey, do you know do I go to college or do I do something else and for parents? It's the same thing. Do I send my kids off to college or do I you know get them to do something else? And what so what would you what would you say is encouragement, you know to help to help them make that decision?

I don't have anything to say to them to help them make that decision. They're on their own. Yeah, they're not gonna listen to me. They're not I'm I'm uh, I don't I don't I I I think what you have is you like if you have a Parents who've sent their kids to public school their whole childhood, right?

They're not gonna listen to any reason at this point. That's just the next step. That's just what they're gonna do and You're just like there's you can throw words at them and there'll be no purchase in their brain because they simply don't understand what you're talking about right so they're gonna go and they're gonna get in all their debt and Do I get this worth this degree and then at the end of it?

They're gonna be a social justice warrior and then they're gonna look at you and say oh man, I've been oppressed, you know. It didn't work out. It's just like yeah I could have told you that but you don't want to listen to begin with and so Whatever.

So I mean, you know part of me just says hey, yeah, just leave them to it. Let them do it, you know. Like I have no I have no comforting words of help for that I mean for the vast majority of people but I mean, I think I think the people who See the problems.

Like you have to have parents who already see the problems and who have been taking steps Their whole life to mitigate against those kind of things and those kind of people don't need to be persuaded.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, okay I mean, I don't think you're gonna walk some kid off the ledge who's about to get into $100 ,000. You're not gonna walk some girl off the ledge who's like one step away from $80 ,000 worth of debt or something like that.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying it's this is what her whole life is prepared her for. And you think I'm gonna come along and say hey, you know, you're about to make the dumbest decision You've ever made in your life.

You're about to get an $80 ,000 worth of debt, right? For nothing. Yeah, and then about you know, five years into a career you hate you're gonna realize you want to have kids and Then but you're too you're too deep into it at that point.

So, I mean like the issue is it's it's okay, I think you You're living in a society that is so hostile to Common sense and reason at this point that I I don't even know what to say to them other than good luck.

Well, you know watch it. You know nothing luck exists. But I mean, it's just like I you're you're about to walk you make a dumb decision and I don't know how to Help you, you know, and right not only do I not know I know what to tell you.

And so You're gonna do it anyways, so just Yeah, maybe it's maybe I'll laugh at you when you're calamity. It's just maybe one of those situations where you're just looking out and you're saying hey we're just.

There's no, you know this there's no good. That's gonna come from this on the other end, but I mean, I think the the you know, I would encourage I Think the parents who understand these problems are the ones who are homeschooling their kids right now and they're making Choice, you know, they're making they're making those decisions already.

And those are the audience that will hear this kind of thing. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, because they've largely already embraced it. But I mean It's just such a deception man, like it's just I mean it and just look at the numbers I mean, we're just we're just Christians are just breeding cows for the pagans at this point we've been that way for years and there's no sign and it's like there's very few little signs that anything's changing, you know, maybe with the CRT stuff and You know the Trump stuff and there's been a dramatic rise in homeschooling and there's some people who get it.

But then those those are the ones that will listen, you know, and the other ones who already know this but then you know the rest of them that. They're too invested in it man. They're too invested in so I don't know.

I don't have words of hope for them.

When College Can Be Useful for a Christian

So what would your encouragement be for the one, you know, like what. What is the scenario where it's like? Yes, it is actually good for you, you know for a specific Christian to go to college. I think if you can.

Mitigate As much as possible against the college experience kind of thing, right like mitigate against that as much as possible and Have a specific area of study that you are going to pursue and you're going to stick to right now.

Like it with that has a very specific career path on the other end of it, you know. Yeah, like being an accountant, you know, there's a Career path on the other end of it that that degree is working towards being an engineer there's a career path on the other end of it that that's working towards right being a You know being a doctor or a nurse, you know I think if you can get through those programs without having to kill a baby or something like that.

At this point, I mean just looking like thinking in terms of like what is a skill that I want that I'm going to use. Right. Yeah, so you right what you want is you want something that's more objective like that.

That has a career path attached to it that you're working towards that will actually take you somewhere, you know and so but then you know a lot of the a Lot of those things are in trade schools now though, you know, so I mean I think you could and we're just we're just living in a different world than we used to be to related to some of those things meaning that college isn't like a You know.

The end-all be-all in order to make money like it used to be or something, you know, right. Yeah so I think if you're gonna go to college try to I mean to the extent to which you could go to like a real Christian college.

That would help a lot, you know, but they you know private Christian colleges are really expensive, too. So, I mean, I think a lot of it depends on your scholarships and you know How well you apply yourself in school and what kind of opportunities you have?

But I would be wanting to I would encourage people if you're gonna go the college route to definitely Definitely Minimize the college experience aspect of it and have a career path at the end of it that you're trying to work towards for sure.

Okay. Well, I think that's a good place for us to wrap up the conversation on and you know Like I said at the beginning this is definitely like one of those questions that it feels like every person has to you know ask and has to provide an answer for as they're coming out of high school and I Do agree with you.

I think that I think more younger people are starting to realize now that College is not the end-all be-all but then it is still a significant aspect of our society in general. And and it is viewed as you know a certain way and by many it's viewed as an extremely favorable thing to do.

So it's good for It's good for us to talk about this, especially what you know, like you said Oftentimes were as Christians were essentially sending our kids off as you know cattle to the slaughter. Basically, you know to be converted since the left hates children so much and refuses to have them on their own.

They keep murdering all theirs. So they have to steal ours, right? And so This is certainly a good warning to try and help people realize. Hey. You don't have to send your kid to college for them to be worth anything in society.

And honestly at this point, it's pretty clear that for you know for many Avoiding college will set you up a lot better. And like, you know to succeed in life than actually going to college with how expensive it is.

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