This is why many of the kids are bored to death, they know what's coming. You know what's coming, you mimeographed it last Wednesday, so what chance have the Holy Ghost, you've already told him what he's going to do, what he isn't going to do, and so we become static and stale and redundant, and I believe there ought to be times when a hymn will so captivate us that maybe you sing one's standards over ten times, and everybody gets more and more blessed and you get deeper into it, as you say, like a hymn, this hymn I like so much, Break Thou the Bread of Life, there's so much in that hymn, beyond the sacred thing, I seek Thee, O my Spirit, answer Thee, Thou Living Word, the second standard, Then shall all bondage cease, isn't that great, wouldn't it be nice to think that everybody's bondage was broken when they came, no, no, no, we sing it and looking around and say, then shall all bondage cease, you know, sometimes I wonder if I'm in church or at the snack bar, as I told the other night, rebuke them, there's a fine young woman there, she's a member of this church, a charming fellow, looking at her boyfriend and she suddenly shoots bubble gum out in the house of God, that's ignorant, pigs do things like that, I don't mean cops either, I mean the animals, dirty, and one woman blushed and another woman reached for a gun very quickly and, you know, but there's no reverence, there isn't a dignity given to the house of God, as I say, I believe when people cross that door, they shouldn't say another word, they should come and bow and meditate and maybe read a devotional hymn, read a scripture and set the pace for the pastor, as Dr. Sangster used to say in Westminster, there's something strange and mysterious about atmosphere, you know, usually I say in the crusade, I say, well now look preacher, I have the back three seats roped off and once I start preaching, nobody comes to the front, keep them at the back, somebody comes in, a woman's carrying a Bible and you see a watch and you say, oh, oh yeah, oh boy, I left my watch at the repair, I wonder if I can get it, you know, you distract people in so many areas with the slightest thing, as I say, you have three problems, first is to get them to church physically, second, get them there mentally, third, get them there spiritually, settle down in spirit and then they're able to absorb the things of God and it's the word of God, this is why the old devil, as I say, faith comes by hearing but not by hearing the choir as good as they are, but we're building up, we go to a church sometimes and they have two specials every Sunday morning by the choir and sometimes two solos and the announcements and the preacher gets up about 20 minutes to 12, now I didn't go to hear the choir sing, I've got enough phonograph I could, I didn't go to hear all about the notices, the announcements, but lots of preachers like it that way, do you know why, because there's so little to say anyhow, the preacher should need at least, I think, 40 minutes if he's going to get any work through, that wouldn't do for me anyhow, but most guys it would, you see, but this is why we're such weak Christians, we're not feeding them on the word of God really, as somebody said, we give them sermonettes that make Christianettes, it used to be in West, in fact, Dr. Martin Lloyd -Jones, who just resigned his church, what, three or four years ago in Westminster, people would say to me in this country, I'm going to England, I'll be in London for a week, who should I hear preach, can I go to Spurgeon's Tabernacle, I'd say go hear Martin Lloyd -Jones in Westminster, and when they come back they'd say, by that's amazing, hardly anybody goes to church in England, they're nearly as bad as Sweden and most countries in Europe, but I suppose it's 1 ,500 people in a couple of, and you know what, most of them are lawyers and doctors and professional people, and he never preaches under an hour and five, an hour and ten minutes, and that isn't the most amazing thing, they'd say, well, I'd say, what amazed you most, hmm, boy, I just couldn't, I just couldn't understand it, you know, he said, let's sing this hymn, he never has a choir, never has a musical special, never has a trumpeter, that's forgotten, he's a real old puritan, it's all God's work, and after they've sung a hymn, they say, let us pray, he prays about two minutes, it's through, and then they sing another hymn and then he may say, we shall have something on Wednesday or something, oh, don't forget the Friday night Bible class, class of exposition, and then they'll take the offering, while the organ plays, then they'll say, let us pray, and everybody that has heard him, I think, has come back to me and said, the thing that amazed me most, was that he prayed from 15 to 20 minutes, and when he finished praying, he said so much, that you feel, well, why doesn't he raise his hand and ask for benediction, we can go home, I've got so much, you know, Spurgeon used to do that, the men used to give time to pray, it's not done anymore, as I say, very often we sing a hymn and say, well, Jack, you pray after this, Jack's no more idea of what God wants in that meeting, than that pussycat has walking down the road, in most cases, I think the preacher should preach himself, he knows his theme, I think he should choose the hymn, what's the good of singing hymns on the second coming, if I'm going to preach on prayer, what's the good of singing hymns on prayer, if I'm going to preach on the second coming, let the song lead again, he doesn't know a thing, he says, hello, how are you taking him, books, things, so and so, he's miles away, we were taught in, if we learn any homiletics, and pulpit department, what have you got, we were taught that this is, this is the essential thing, people have come to meet God, I say again, I don't believe our people come to meet God, they come to hear a sermon about God, and if you don't cross the right lines, or the T's or the I's, they kick you off, boy, I'm glad he's not our regular preacher, you know, he didn't emphasize this, I'll emphasize that, you see, they want you to tell them what they already know, or they want you to tell them what they like to know, but I disagree, I'm not going to do either, I'm going to tell them what God wants them to know, again, it won't make you the most popular preacher, I, okay, I get crowds, get a packed church now and again, not too often, it doesn't worry me, because we're living in a day of such flimsy and sloppy and sloppy evangelism, and anything goes, you see, when you get down to the word of God, again, it's the word that helps, all right, where do we get to, we go to the fourth chapter in verse 12, for the word of God is quick and powerful, but not as it comes again in the first chapter, in verse 13, everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word, you check up with some of the young folk in your church and ask them what they believe, they don't give you a parrot -like reputation, I believe in this, that and the other, but when you've done that, not only ask them what they believe, then put the pressure on, say, why do you believe it, well, because the pastor told me, oh, I see, we're told, at least we're supposed to be able to give a reason for our faith, but I wonder how often we can do that, all right, let's, you can go through, follow through in the chapter on how many times that word is referred to and so forth, let's go into the chapter again, Hebrews 11, yesterday, you remember, we took Abraham on his long journey, the demands God made on him, his unfaithfulness, that you don't have to stand back scared stiff when you go into Hebrews 11 and say, what amazing men, oh man, Abraham and Moses, no, they're a bunch of rogues, what can you admire about Noah, he got drunk, what can you admire about Abraham, he disobeyed God, he lied when he got in a tight corner and he had a baby by another girl to try and help God out of a situation, now what kind of a man is he, again, Noah got drunk, David's mentioned in the chapter and he's an adulterer and he murdered somebody to cover up his adultery, Jephthah's in the chapter and boy, what a stupid vow he makes, and if I'd been writing Hebrews 11, do you think I'd have put a harlot, a prostitute in to prove faith, but God did, talks about the faith of the harlot, Rahab, would I have put Samson in with all his problems, no, I wouldn't have put any, many of those people, I'd have found a better selection than that, I would have talked about real men of faith, like Joshua who commanded the sons of Stanfield, but he's not mentioned in the chapter, I would have put Elijah in, boy, he had some faith, but he's not mentioned in the chapter, again, you see, God isn't giving us a perfect record of men of faith, he's giving us a pattern, again, let's remember, the first man that's mentioned there is Abel, who built an altar, which is for two things, sacrifice and worship, yesterday we mentioned Abraham going up onto the mountain, taking his son, you would have thought, you would have said, I and the lad will go yonder and sacrifice, but he did not say that, he said, I and the lad will go yonder and worship, but worship involved the dearest thing he had, which he does in most of our lives, I've heard preachers weep and say, you know, I don't have much time for this, and boy, I'm such a busy Joe, well, you shouldn't have, that's your fault, nobody else's, if you're a preacher, you have two things to do, and only two, according to the word of God, give yourself to prayer, continually to prayer and the word of God, and it'll take you a whole week to get two good sermons for Sunday, if you do, what about visiting, that's not your job, it's the deacon's job, if you read the New Testament, it's their job to dispense with tithes and offerings and help the poor and visit the needy, it's not your job as a pastor, some of you must have read McLaren, Alexander McLaren, one of the greatest Baptist preachers ever in England, he ruled the North like Spurgeon ruled the South, and I've been in his church, we have meetings in his church, he was a fabulous man, when he went to that church in Manchester, the dear old deacons, in those days, they were usually older men with beards, and they're a bit nervous, you know, and they sat there, and the head deacon sat there, and Alexander McLaren sat at this end, and the other grave dignified men were there looking, and oh, they asked McLaren a lot of questions, and finally they agreed that they would call him as a pastor.