Beyond Messianic Judaism — Art Katz

You all look so spread out. Maybe it's already a sermon illustration more than you know. Hallelujah. Precious God, we desire again to hear from your heart, and we're all well along in the faith to know that to whom much is given, much is required.

It's a dangerous thing to ask to hear from your heart. It's not a little curtsy, it's not a little genuflection, not a little, excuse the language, obsequious condescension to God. It's a thing that invites requirement.

And we're coming of age, Lord, where we desire to be required of. We know that the hour is late. These are the last days, and perilous times have come, and we know that your love, my God, requires, and we thank you for that.

You're perfect in all your ways, and we ask that you would insert now, Lord, a word in keeping with what you have been unfolding in these days, appropriate now for this hour, for this people and beyond them.

Be with this mouth. Be triumphant over this bodily and physical condition, and we thank you and give you the praise for the privilege of hearing and considering and responding to your holy word. In Jesus' name we pray.

Deuteronomy’s Blessings, Curses, and Israel’s Condition

Amen. I'd like to start this morning with a very brief examination of Deuteronomy 30, right from the beginning of that chapter. I think periodically we ought to read Deuteronomy 28 through 30 just as a kind of salutary thing, very sobering to read the blessings and the curse that God spoke to Israel.

I still recall the one time I had an occasion to hear Elie Wiesel. How many people know who he is? The outstanding Jewish holocaust authority. I think most of his family, he's probably the only survivor of the holocaust in Auschwitz.

He gave a talk in which he told about the spiritual renaissance taking place in his life and that he was seeing a rabbi twice weekly for the study of scripture. The Lord would not allow me to ask the question publicly when they had the public question and answer period, but privately I went up to him and I said, in so much as you're reading and studying the scriptures now twice weekly, to what degree would you acknowledge that Jewish calamity, past and present, is altogether the fulfillment of the scriptures spoken in Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26?

I think I said the concluding chapters of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. He looked at me for a moment, somewhat startled, and then he said, and the words reverberate still, I refuse to consider that. If ever I heard a death knell sounded by a supreme authority in Judaism, to whom even Christian theologians look for the interpretation of the holocaust, I heard it in that statement.

I refuse to consider that. Do you understand what that means? I exalt myself above the word of God. I will determine what I will consider appropriate from that word and what I will reject. But what you're suggesting is unthinkable.

If you're suggesting that our calamities are proportionate to our Jewish sin, that's not a thesis that I'm willing to consider. For what is our sin? We're a notable people. We've won more Nobel Prizes than, out of proportion to the population than any people on the face of the earth.

We're known for virtue. We're philosophical, we're moral, we're ethical. That's as man sees. That very statement utterly discredits any pretension to be either moral or ethical. For if you have exalted yourself above God by determining what you will accept as his word from God, you have destroyed any basis for spirituality, let alone morality or ethicality.

Thank you, Lord, for that statement. We need to be sobered by it, lest there's yet something lurking in our own hearts about Jewish preeminence. It's a deep, deep-seated thing, and it may be more unconscious than we know, both in those of us who are Jewish and even those of us who are not.

There's something very powerful in all that is implied in the word Jewish and all that's implied in the word Judaism. And that's why I have always, with reserve, touched those things and have always been somewhat cautious, if not apprehensive, about their use.

I remember the first time I heard the phrase that what we represent as Jewish believers is the fourth branch of Judaism. And something in my alarm system went off like gangbusters. We are not a fourth branch of their system.

We are the continuum of the Abrahamic faith from its inception. We're not some little novelty of the contemporary age that has a little Yiddish kite thrown in and also makes allowance for Jesus. This is the faith of the fathers.

This is the faith that was once given that for which we need, again, earnestly to contend. And, in fact, the burden on my heart this morning is to elevate a faith, if you'll understand me and not think that I'm being picayune or petty, that is even above messianic.

However precious that is, and I respect it and I understand the identification and the witness that you're seeking to establish by it, the irony is that there's a faith beyond that. And I believe, and you can weigh my statements, that except we come to it, our witness is vain.

And that faith is the ultimate faith and the apostolic faith. And I hope to show to you today, in essence, what that faith is. And only in its power and its credibility and its witness can we touch and penetrate our own Jewish kinsmen in these last days.

Oh, it's true. Peripheral Jews will be brought into the kingdom. There will be an attractiveness. There will be a winsomeness that a Jew that would have reservation for the word Christian and would feel ill at ease in a Christian church setting would find himself much more comfortable in something like this.

And it might well be a factor toward his salvation. But my jealousy is much deeper than that. My burning intensity for my kinsmen and to save them from the eternal wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be theirs requires something more than providing a winsome and attractive cultural setting in which they can safely become Christians without forfeiting that which is Jewish.

I'm wondering if anyone is ever a Christian unless he's willing not only to forfeit what is Jewish but to forfeit his life, period. And maybe the fact that we're still operating at another and lesser level is the statement more than we know of our own unwillingness to forfeit.

So, dear saints, it's pleased the Lord to bring the strange men before you these days who, if ironically enough, may be more Jewish than us all. That this is Jewishness. This utterness toward God. This singular, single-eyed intensity that is willing to throw everything on the scrap heap and call it dung, as Paul did, is the condition alone by which the apostolic glory comes.

It was so for him, and it needs so also to be for us. That the very thing that we're wanting to retain and have every reason to justify and to employ is the thing that keeps us both from the apostolic glory and the apostolic power.

I'd love to see this tape circulated through the entire Messianic movement. In Deuteronomy 30, verses 1 through 9, we read,. And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among, notice how carefully I'm reading now, among all the nations whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee, and shall return unto the Lord thy God and shall obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day.

Thou and thy children, with all thine heart and with all thy soul, with them, the Lord thy God will. The Lord thy God will. The Lord thy God will. You'll see how frequently that comes up. In fact, I think it comes up exactly seven times in this text.

The Lord thy God will turn thy captivity and have compassion upon thee and will return and gather thee from all the nations whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the uttermost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God will the Lord thy God gather thee and from thence will he fetch thee and the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy father's possessed.

You know, when you read a text like this, it makes you very sympathetic to the perspective of a segment of Jewish orthodoxy that is even living in Israel that has never recognized the state of Israel as being the messianic state.

They're a kind of a canker and a saw to a Jewish nation because they stubbornly insist that this secular, socialistic, and Zionistic entity is not the messianic fulfillment. And I wonder if they're closer to the truth than we know when we read the Lord thy God will, the Lord thy God will, the Lord thy God will.

They're insisting upon the Lord thy God that he will, he who's scattered will return and will gather and he will establish them in the land and when he does it, there'll be no controversy as to whose land it is and who has brought them.

Our problem is that we're not sufficiently supernatural in our orientation. Our problem is that we're so desirous of the expedient result that we're not too careful about how it's obtained, which is exactly the formula for last day's deception.

One of my other concerns, you'll not be hearing it in these days, is the increasing interest in power that the church seems to have now without a too careful attention of the source of it. If you're just concerned for a result and not too concerned for the source by which the result is obtained, you are a candidate for deception.

The Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed and thou shalt possess it and he will do thee good and multiply thee above thy fathers and the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart and the heart of thy seed to love the Lord God with all thine heart and with all thy soul that thou mayest live.

I think it's clear that what is acknowledged today as the state of Israel is not a people whose heart has been circumcised. Either it's yet to come or there's yet another gathering in which it will come according to this text.

And I don't want to examine this text this morning, I've got other things to say to you, only to say this, that the whole drama according to this ponderous text does not begin in the land but in the nations.

I've always been suspicious now that I'm sharing everything and letting everything hang out because if you're going to stone me I'll give you every reason. I've always been suspicious about those who have such a fascination for Israel and are completely indifferent to the body of Christ at home.

It doesn't add up to me. I can't reconcile it. That if you're authentically concerned for the glory of God through that which is the people of God you would be giving yourself with as much zeal and intensity and as love and love to the local expression of that work and that body in the locality where you are as you would be to trip off to Israel and attend the Feast of Tabernacles conference.

I'm suspicious of the one independent of the other. And by the way I've noted also that those who are fascinated with Israel don't seem to have the same preoccupation and concern for the local Jewish community who are also the Israel of God the outcasts of Israel and there are more of us in the diaspora than there are in the land.

The greater action I'm not some great scholar but I think I can realize this much that the greater saga of Israel's redemption and restoration of the last days has its activity in the nations rather than in the land.

It culminates in the land and there's a final episode in the land when they shall see him whom they have pierced. But the greater dealing of God is through the nations where most of us yet remain. And I rejoice for that because that gives the church in the nations where they are the supreme opportunity to be the church as nothing else will require it.

Because if everything begins when thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations whether the Lord thy God hath driven thee and shall return unto the Lord thy God and shall obey his voice etc. and with all thy soul then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity have compassion upon thee will return thee gather thee from all nations return thee to the land circumcise thy heart give you the Holy Spirit and so on.

But it all begins in the land with this one thing when thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations whether the Lord thy God hath driven thee. And here's my thought this morning, saints. Why should we expect that if it has not yet taken place except that something comes to a community dead in its own spirituality by something external to itself from without.

Namely a witness and a preaching and a proclamation and a demonstration with the word that turns its attention to the Lord their God. Paul in the summary of his apostolic ministry spoke about he not withholding himself day and night both in from house to house and in public places proclaiming that this message repentance toward God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you want to know why it is that you cannot seem to be successful in bringing Jews to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ? Because it must be first preceded by a repentance toward God. It's repent and believe ye the gospel.

Not make some bookkeeping calculation of what the omission of the Messiah has meant and then include that into your Jewish orientation and call yourself a Messianic Jew whose whole walk is often nothing more than the rising and falling of carnality and shallow consecration and commitment.

There's a depth of conversion that God is wanting that must begin with repentance toward God before it admits of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. We Berkeley grads know that faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is patent absurdity for modern consideration.

I can't think of anything more absurd for any intellectual evaluation especially Jewish evaluation than the foolishness of the gospel. It's a scandal. Have you realized how foolish it is? God lay aside his deity was born as an infant in a stable that this is our God.

It's beneath Jewish dignity even to consider. 30 years of obscurity and a short three and a half year public ministry where he's rejected by his own people he's an offscouring and an itinerant preaching bum and a few dubious miracles that even to this day Jewish authorities say was from the power of Beelzebub the powers of darkness that he was a magician with an illegitimate birth and was finally done in on the cross for the political danger that he was out on the dung keep outside of town between two criminals and that's your God?

That pathetic wreck on the cross so mangled that you can hardly recognize his humanity let alone deity? It's a statement of absurdity it's a scandalous gospel. There is nothing to commend it to modern sensibility and to intellectual appreciation.

It's totally a supernatural work of God that anyone should believe it and be saved for which none of us receive credit. It's a grace that's given but it begins with a repentance toward God and if any people have voluminous reason to be repentant toward God it is we.

You need to bone up a little bit on Leviticus and Deuteronomy and see what Moses said would be our condition in the latter days and was our condition historically in the most vile apostasy in such flagrant things performed before the very face of God even in the house of God as would be scandalous for Gentiles let alone for Jews.

The Prophetic Indictment and the Need for Repentance

I remember once spending some time in Phoenix area and the local synagogue was giving Thursday afternoon talks by local rabbis. I went to several of them and on one occasion the rabbi spoke on the prophetic heritage of Israel.

You imagine I came with bated breath and he did a pretty good job and he showed what was the singular and universal cry of the prophets. How does the book of Isaiah begin if our critics say that the New Testament is anti-Semitic what shall I say about the book of Isaiah.

Hear O heaven and give ear O earth. Why does it begin that way. Because my people will not hear and they do not consider. God has to appeal to the insensate elements themselves. For I have raised up a people and they have rebelled against me.

The ox knows its owner and the ass its master's crib. But my people do not know and they don't even consider sinful nation laden with iniquity from the top of your head to the soles of your feet bruises and cuts that need to be mollified and bound up.

The city of righteousness has become a city of murderers corruptors not just corrupted corruptors. So in the question and answer period Kit Katz raised his hand and said excuse me. Can you tell me when it has ever been historically that we as the Jewish community have ever acknowledged the indictment of God against us through the prophets.

When is it that we have repented for the charges the indictments the cry of God about our condition that has been registered through every prophet. And I can't remember what his answer was but it was not impressive.

I think it's fair to say that no such acknowledgement has ever yet been made. And that's why when the Lord appears and we shall see him whom we have pierced we shall mourn every family apart husbands and wives apart.

The depth of this racking sobbing and convulsive breaking will be unlike anything the world has ever seen. It'll be a schmerz you know that word in German and in Yiddish. It'll be a a pain unspeakable.

It'll be a grief unspeakable. It'll be a sorrow and a lamentation not only for our present sins but for the sins of our fathers for which we are called to acknowledge or he will not remember his covenant with us.

I'd like to save my mother from that racking experience. I don't think that her mortal frame can bear it if only the grace of the knowledge of the Lord could come before that final revelation of him that will leave an entire nation that is that number which survive of it utterly shattered.

Apostolic Preaching, Faith, and Salvation

And all of that brings me to this if this beginning work that releases the Lord to return the captivity of a nation while they're yet in the lands of their dispersion begins in those lands when they begin to turn their hearts to God and shall call to mind these things.

I want to say that it cannot begin with them but with us. They're going to have to hear a preached word because it pleases God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe not the foolishness of Yiddishkeit.

But there's preaching and preaching. And I have a jealousy for a kind alone that when it comes it's more than informational on how to get saved. It's not the four spiritual laws with one more added for us Jews.

It's the kind of word of which Paul speaks in Romans 10 for which a Danish theologian whom I admire says it is this apostolic preaching. It is for this apostolic preaching that the Jewish community yet waits.

Verse 13 of Romans 10. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed. And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard not really properly heard.

And how shall they hear without a preacher. And how shall they preach except they be sent underline that word sent as it is written. How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel. The foolish scandalous absurd and intellectually offensive statement of God alone by which a man can be saved to preach that the gospel of peace and to bring the good tidings of things to come.

Verse 17. So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God and not some patsy formula. I'm saved today and have been saved for 27 years. Little thing that I am. I once described myself as a little potato in the kingdom and some brother came up after the service to be quick to remind me you may be a little potato Art.

But you're an authentic potato. And you know dear saints that that's the key and the heart of the word apostolic. What is authentic is apostolic. And what is apostolic is authentic. And if we Jews are anything even in our unsafe condition we are ultimate critics of that which is authentic and that which is faint.

That which is indisputably real and cannot be gainsaid however much it vexes us. And that which is amusing and causes us some slight consideration but does not disturb our sleep. We're tough and God has made us so for the church's sake they are the enemies of the gospel.

For your sake hallelujah. We needed that lest we ourselves would have become patsies at a bunch of shallow religionists not making an impact on their generation in these last days content with mere succession of services.

Dear saints there's a cry of God that is a call and an ultimate call to apostolicity. There's a preaching of one kind only in the hearing of which it creates faith to believe despite centuries of historic unbelief and opposition to the gospel.

And my Jewish people are in their graves today right here in Cleveland, Ohio 60 ,000 of them waiting for a preached word in a power and authenticity that raises the dead for it creates for it is the word of God and not the word of men.

And it can only be spoken by him who is sent. For that word sent is at the root of the Greek apostolos meaning sent one but sent from where? Dum-da-dum-dum. That is the question now, have you ears to hear?

Antioch as the Model of Apostolic Sending

Turn to Acts 13. And we will just briefly examine the first apostolic sending. Do you like things that are first? I think Watchman Nee and all good exegetes know that the first expression of anything in the scripture is almost invariably the purest and most authentic expression of that thing.

And I want to encourage your hearts. I want to make you jealous for the word apostolic. If you don't salivate over it you don't have it yet. If it's an enigma and a conundrum and does not evoke any special juice running through your mouth you've not yet come alive to the true faith.

And it might be that your Yiddishkeit is the very obstruction because the former things must pass away the lesser must bow to the greater. We cannot have all this and heaven too. All this might be comely might be attractive it might give us a little warmth and enjoyment in many ways.

But the thing that is ultimate and the thing that is authentic and the thing alone that will raise the dead the heavenly thing and the apostolic thing will only come as the requirement of that which has been surrendered and yielded up unto death.

You know what God might be calling for this morning and what he might be testing the depth of the sincerity of your profession to be concerned for jewelry. Would you be willing as Paul was to count all things as dung and to bring into death the very thing that you cherish and is the very distinctive of your congregation namely its messianic practices.

And go for broke and pull out the stops and be with your faces sticking out with no outward adornment or thing to wear or to have or to be. And you'll be weak and feeble. God will test you until you come in increasingly into apostolic verity apostolic authority apostolic character apostolic power.

Till the day comes when God can speak into this congregation by the spirit of God and say separate unto me. Walter and George and Joe and Jim for the work unto I have called them and it doesn't have to be Jewish work because we're not called to a work we're called to him.

And it's only in response to him that the authentic work to the Jews will take place. But when they become explicitly our focus they get something less than they would have received had it been a sending us unto God separated unto him for the work unto which he has called us for we're separated unto him and not the work that's priestly.

And except it be priestly how shall it be apostolic. For Jesus himself is the high priest and the apostle of our confession Acts 13. The first apostolic sending you know what the interesting thing is dear saints it does not take place in Jerusalem in a totally Jewish congregation.

It takes place with a mixed bag polyglot a bunch of believers in a kind of a city outside the pale of Jerusalem Antioch a great cosmopolitan and commercial center something like Cleveland. And I think I can say with authority this morning in Yeshua HaMashiach there's a God who loves you and appreciates what you're about and the desire of your heart.

But he's yet waiting for the first Antioch of this city out of which he can call men and women who are sent in apostolic power to preach a word that raises the dead. For it is a creative event and brings faith to those who cannot otherwise have it now.

There were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers notice not at the church not those who come casually for a service and are separated rows between each group of believers. I think that the church of Antioch was clustered right here right there by the word of God right by the pulpit and they their mouths were open and they were cleaving to the word of God and to each other.

None of this casual air of coming for a kind of service and enjoying a little Yiddish kite and some lovely music and enjoying a good biblical word and going home. There was an intensity. They were not at the church they were in the church.

And that's costly. I don't know of any more exquisite form of suffering than being in the church. Can you believe that. Right to my face I've had people call me an enemy of the gospel with whom I live in community sharing my hard earned income through gospel labors with them and sustaining them and being called by them a gospel.

What did I say it was? You're going to have to take us by the ankles and shake out a lot of stuff that is subjective rebellious self-willed and opinionated which will never take place as long as you're sitting like this in this congregation.

Never. You're going to have to start coming forward and clustering here for your life. And it will be more than the succession of services. It will be going from house to house daily breaking bread. It will be finding out that when you knock on the door and you haven't called in advance of your coming that those that you thought spiritual will have their feet up on the coffee table watching such vile stuff on TV that you stagger.

But that's where they are. And that's where we need to know it and where we need to deal with each other and speak the truth to one another in love and bring the sanctifying work of God to bear. That brings us from faith to faith and glory to glory.

Until the day comes that we're more than just a casual conglomerate of souls but an intensive band of believers who are the family and community of God that the spirit of God can say separate unto me and send.

There were certain prophets and teachers there at Antioch Barnabas and Simeon who was called Niger and Lucius of Cyrene and Manaen which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch and Saul. How redundant and unnecessary to give us all of this detail.

Who cares I mean what their names were. Well you can believe there's not a syllable in this book. That's mere happenstance. Why does God give us this trite information. Because it's profound. A guy by the name of Niger he's evidently black.

And another one from Cyrene he's a Mediterranean type. And Barnabas who was a Jew. And Lucius and Manaen who may be of a Roman extraction. My God what a mixed bag of Jew and Gentile and black and white.

And here comes the punchline. Guys ready as they ministered unto the Lord the Holy Ghost said separate unto me not unto the work. Barnabas and Saul for the work were unto. I have called them. And if we had time to read on you'll find out that when they were sent forth where's the first place that they end up.

In the synagogue of the Jews. It's still to the Jew first and into the Jewish community. I'd be I'd have second questions. Would I allow you to lay hands on me as much as I need to be prayed for this morning.

Because what were you doing last night up till twelve one two o 'clock in the morning twiddling the TV dial or something else that's equally as dubious or maybe worse. And you're going to lay hands on me.

Forget it. Because anyone who lays hands on you imparts what he is in himself into you. And I don't want that conveyed anywhere let alone to afflict me. I want to know who's laying hands on me. But how well do you know each other.

And are you willing to pay for the price of knowing each other as you ought. And the pain of some of the revelation and realization of what knowing each other means. And even of the knowing of yourself as will come out in such an intensity of fellowship as was theirs at Antioch.

It's easier to be messianic than apostolic. It's easier to put on the talasim and a yarmulke than to be in this kind of relationship despite in fact all the more because of your diversity and to be found ministering unto the Lord together.

Unity, Holiness, and Apostolic Community

There's something more than the singing of Hebraic choruses that delight our hearts. I wouldn't be surprised if there was no singing at all that the ultimate worship to God is a people in their diversity who have been so knit and so wrought as one in God that they can minister to the Lord in silence.

I think one of the greatest statements of all scripture that the Lord has not revealed to me that there was silence in heaven for the space of half an hour and people weren't going looking at their fingernails and bored and twiddling their thumbs.

A deep waiting on God a hushed waiting on God. The quiet of the clamor of our own natures that has to have some novelty and something to see and something to hear and something opulent before us no longer there.

And it is he and he alone who is the object of our attention and our worship. And when God will have that from Jews and Gentiles and black and white as one ministering unto the Lord we can expect again to hear his voice saying separate unto me.

For we are separated from culture from ourselves from our ambitions from the subtlety even of Jewish preeminence and the kind of thing that we think is our distinctive even unconsciously. That's how deep that separation must go.

And it will only take place in one environment an apostolic setting and an apostolic body. Apostles who are sent who can preach a word that is a creative event for those who hear it need to be sent forth from an apostolic place.

The issue of an apostle is not something that is some chance happenstance that happens to come around but is the product of an environment that is itself apostolic that those who go and those who send are made of the same stuff.

And that the laying on of hands is an impartation of the very power and the vitality of God that moves through that corporate body and then is conferred to those who are sent and something is established before God and the principalities and powers of darkness and the identification between the sending body and the sent ones.

That's a little bit more than Sunday charismatic Christianity or the Saturday variety. We have either all sin saints or we have fallen short of the glory of God. And when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them they sent them away.

So they being sent forth by the Holy Ghost. What? They laid hands on them. They sent them away. And so they being sent forth by the Holy Ghost. When? God, what are you trying to say? That you're equating the laying on of the hands of men and women as being the same as being sent by the Holy Ghost?

And the answer from heaven is exactly when we will have men and women whose hands can convey the pure life of God who have not dwindled the TV dial to the level of the late hours of the night and come sleepy the next morning to the service waiting for some kind of spiritual roulette and novelty that will awaken their interest will have again apostolic sendings apostolic preaching and the hearing of which faith will be created to believe to seek God to acknowledge the truth of Deuteronomy 30 and call to mind among all the nations where the Lord thy God hath driven thee the things that we need to recall that he might return unto us and return and turn us from our captivity and have compassion upon us and gather us from all the nations wherein we have been scattered.

The issue of Jewish restoration the issue of the establishment of the nation which is the locus and the setting for the millennial kingdom that shall bring peace in the earth is the issue of the church and not the issue of the Jew.

God will see to it that they're too helpless to do anything of themselves or for themselves. That was last night's message. This morning's is the punctuation and the practical filling in. And if we had all kinds of time do it at your own leisure.

Read on in Acts 13. Not only are they brought to the synagogue of the Jews but they are encountered by a sorcerer at the very inception of the first apostolic ministry. The two most ultimately demanding things in earth confronting Jews and confronting the powers of darkness.

Your Talas and your Yarmulke will not go far in that day. But your apostolic authority will. And the question that God is putting before you today and maybe he's not even requiring it but to see the willingness of your heart.

Would you be willing to bring to the death the one in order to see the resurrection of the other. I like Walter he's a mensch or I wouldn't be here. I don't know of another messianic leader who has been willing to touch me with a 10 foot pole in the last 10 to 15 years for exactly the reasons that you've been hearing in these days.

And yet it might be the most Jewish preaching that you've ever heard in the truest sense of the word because it springs out of the jealousy for God. If that's not the definition of Jewish then I don't know what Jewish is.